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Why did Rashid Latif part ways with Karachi Kings?

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He has been making a lot of anti Mickey Arthur statements in the last 1-2 months and I just noticed that he is no longer affiliated with Karachi Kings.

One journalist is saying according to his sources Latif was not happy with the compensation he was being paid in comparison to Mickey and that he felt the Franchise did not take care of him that well.

Maybe someone can confirm what the true story is.
 
I used to have a lot of respect for Rashid but he has turned out to be just another bitter ex-cricketer. Selection of Tabish Khan and Jaahid Ali on his recommendation should tell us everything about him.
 
My guess Wasim coming to KK has something to do with it...

Back in the 90s he never get along with him and always had issues since Latif never liked the fishy stuff related to Wasim.
The rise of Moin khan as keper is also wasim, he never liked the inclusion of Latif in the team as a keeper...
 
My guess Wasim coming to KK has something to do with it...

Back in the 90s he never get along with him and always had issues since Latif never liked the fishy stuff related to Wasim.
The rise of Moin khan as keper is also wasim, he never liked the inclusion of Latif in the team as a keeper...

They were commentating just fine on Game On Hai for months on end, smiling and laughing together, sharing old times while commentating so I doubt that would be the case.
 
They were commentating just fine on Game On Hai for months on end, smiling and laughing together, sharing old times while commentating so I doubt that would be the case.

lol off course they do talk now and don't show it off.
You can replay some programs where Rashid and Wasim got into discussion of WI tour/Aus tour and Rashid kind of ignored the discussion.

I clearly remember during 90s many issues among our so called heros.. wasim, waqar, moin, Ramiz to name a few.... everyone has baggage.
 
Reason is controversial and Rashid Latif does not want it out in the ipen at the moment.
 
Reason is controversial and Rashid Latif does not want it out in the ipen at the moment.

Some journalists in the media are already speculating what happened
 
Rashid Latif fired from PTV by CEO Naeem Bukhari, who approved the sackings in a meeting with the board of directors.

The channel cited shortage of funds for terminating their contracts. It has 3,560 full-time workers and is looking to reduce the number of contractual employees.

The Ministry of Information and Broadcasting approved the move.

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Rashid Latif fired from PTV by CEO Naeem Bukhari, who approved the sackings in a meeting with the board of directors.

The channel cited shortage of funds for terminating their contracts. It has 3,560 full-time workers and is looking to reduce the number of contractual employees.

The Ministry of Information and Broadcasting approved the move.

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Why are you firing important people like the CMO and the CTO? Not like PTV has great Marketing or Technology anyway?
 
Rashid Latif fired from PTV by CEO Naeem Bukhari, who approved the sackings in a meeting with the board of directors.

The channel cited shortage of funds for terminating their contracts. It has 3,560 full-time workers and is looking to reduce the number of contractual employees.

The Ministry of Information and Broadcasting approved the move.

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Great news can't stand this pathetic cheater. A clown of the highest order.
 
9.5 lacs is a lot of money. Loot maar

Yeah, I thought he was decent on Game on Hai but not sure if he ever did enough research to back up that salary.

90% of the time, you’d have Dr. Nauman putting the stats on the screen and Rashid and Shoaib reacting in real-time, with no idea of the circumstances otherwise.

They would then end up doing a Caught Behind show across the room, right afterwards, in Nauman’s office, which would include more detail at times.

Safe to say, strong conflict of interest and little motivation to bring energy to his role.

I respect his views nonetheless, but sometimes he’d say things like “we need to back Asad Shafiq, he easily has another 6 years in him”. I can see why he got fired.
 
Yeah, I thought he was decent on Game on Hai but not sure if he ever did enough research to back up that salary.

90% of the time, you’d have Dr. Nauman putting the stats on the screen and Rashid and Shoaib reacting in real-time, with no idea of the circumstances otherwise.

They would then end up doing a Caught Behind show across the room, right afterwards, in Nauman’s office, which would include more detail at times.

Safe to say, strong conflict of interest and little motivation to bring energy to his role.

I respect his views nonetheless, but sometimes he’d say things like “we need to back Asad Shafiq, he easily has another 6 years in him”. I can see why he got fired.
I absolutely agree with what you said. I would also add that the problem with him and Shoaib and many other of our former greats is that, they think that just because they are legends that they deserve to have a high salary. Like you said he has some great points but then sometimes he mentions players that are mediocre players and most of those players are from Sindh region.

If you ever watch Game on Hai, which I am sure you have, u would notice that they make jokes up half of the time and get off topic. No stats used whatsoever and if they do then its minimal. They complain half of the time of Pakistan cricket, but when someone asked them the solutions they have no answers or answers that are not backed by facts.

I wouldnt be surprised if Dr Nauman Niaz is asked to leave or fired.

Since PTV has the domestic broadcasting rights of Pakistan cricket, they should follow what Sky Sports does. They have top analysts that actually analyze the game and do interviews with players and actually ask questions that would benefit Pakistan cricket. I was watching a Pre-game show on Sky Sports where Rob Key, one of the analysts did an interview with Englands Head coach and asked him questions like "dont you think Jo's Butler should be playing instead of Bairstow" "or they would give them facts first of a players teachnique and then question what the coaching staff is working in that player and what are his weaknesses.

Pakistan cricket would just benefit if this happens. But I think this is a wonderful move to fire top officials in PTV.
 
I absolutely agree with what you said. I would also add that the problem with him and Shoaib and many other of our former greats is that, they think that just because they are legends that they deserve to have a high salary. Like you said he has some great points but then sometimes he mentions players that are mediocre players and most of those players are from Sindh region.

If you ever watch Game on Hai, which I am sure you have, u would notice that they make jokes up half of the time and get off topic. No stats used whatsoever and if they do then its minimal. They complain half of the time of Pakistan cricket, but when someone asked them the solutions they have no answers or answers that are not backed by facts.

I wouldnt be surprised if Dr Nauman Niaz is asked to leave or fired.

Since PTV has the domestic broadcasting rights of Pakistan cricket, they should follow what Sky Sports does. They have top analysts that actually analyze the game and do interviews with players and actually ask questions that would benefit Pakistan cricket. I was watching a Pre-game show on Sky Sports where Rob Key, one of the analysts did an interview with Englands Head coach and asked him questions like "dont you think Jo's Butler should be playing instead of Bairstow" "or they would give them facts first of a players teachnique and then question what the coaching staff is working in that player and what are his weaknesses.

Pakistan cricket would just benefit if this happens. But I think this is a wonderful move to fire top officials in PTV.

Very well put. I’ve also noticed one more thing, they complain a lot about the PCB and current coaching setup (many complaints are valid, many I disagree with) but when they hosted Wasim Khan, Nadeem Khan, Misbah ul Haq, Azhar Ali, and others involved in the setup, they were suddenly completely shy and averse from asking some of the same incisive questions or asking directly about policies and selection decisions.

In other words, they just didn’t know how to put their money where their mouths were. Building on that, they rarely talk about team strategy, balance, and statistically-backed inferences on the different questions.

For example, they talk about how the PCB needs to shed the “liking and disliking” culture, and then openly talk about their own likes and dislikes (Dr. Nauman has a grudge against Imam ul Haq, for example) without ever bringing up a statistical comparison with the other options available. They simply say “x person deserved it more, he’s been performing for years” - these days the golden boy is Sami Aslam, without ever providing a statistical comparison to Shan Masood and Abid Ali. I don’t mind them arguing in Sami’s favor - it’s about how they argue it.

At best, I see them quote that person’s domestic average. I have rarely seen them go into details like a batsman’s strike rate, let alone strike rate by phase of the game or a bowler’s economy rate, let alone economy by phase of the game.

Critical analyses often degenerate into Rashid and Shoaib telling tales of their 90s and 00s rodeos, and there are entire segments devoted to padding each other up.

Note that I have the utmost respect for all three of them, and I watch Game on Hai regularly (on 2x speed) because there is decent analysis in between all the fluff. But the show is run horribly.
 
By and large Pakistan cricket coverage is very mediocre, whether that be commentary, pre and post-match stuff and talk shows.

Very dull, lacking ideas, lacking innovation or quality content.
 
Another thing I want to add, recently Rashid kept bringing up how Sindh keeps getting marginalized at the international level despite the Sindh U19 team dominating for the last 4 years. Taken in isolation, both parts of that statements hold weight (international marginalization and dominating U19 cricket) but they have absolutely no connective tissue.

Rashid kept railing against Misbah, but never thought to bring up the question about where those U19 talents who were dominating are right now. Neither Nauman nor Shoaib had the idea to ask either - truth is, Rashid’s own close friend Basit Ali was failing to promote the likes of Aarish Ali Khan, Saud Shakeel, Hasan Mohsin, Mohammad Taha, Aamir Ali, and more to play cricket, with consistent backing given to Khurram Manzoor, Shehzar Mohammad, and co hogging up spots in the lineup. The argument had a pretty clear response - folks from Sindh just can’t get selected for international cricket if the best talents aren’t even being given a platform by Sindh itself.

In other words, the three analysts rarely cross-check each other, or do the research to back their arguments.
 
Shoaib Akhtar was a great cricketer but he lacks game knowledge. He always repeats what Rashid says and adds nothing new.
Recently Im seeing lots for young analytics who comes up with stats adding a new dimension to the topic.
 
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Lol if RL was being paid Rs 950,000 a month, how much is Shoaib being paid?
 
By and large Pakistan cricket coverage is very mediocre, whether that be commentary, pre and post-match stuff and talk shows.

Very dull, lacking ideas, lacking innovation or quality content.

Very much so. It is beyond frustrating when our team goes overseas and they bring in someone like Wasim Akram or Ramiz Raja who have no idea about the domestic scene. The local commentators will talk about the up coming talent in their teams and then ask the Pakistani commentators about whats happening at the domestic scene and these guys are clueless. It should be embarrassing to these guys that Mike Atherton will at times know more about Pakistani players than the Pakistanis.

Lately, it seems Bazid Khan does his homework and has some idea of what is happening but his commentary is still a work in progress. I've only tuned in here and there to the PCB QeA YouTube stream so I don't know the names but there are a few people that seem to be good and do their homework. I hope the PCB pushes them forward and maybe even work with media houses to get these guys training.
 
I have no idea how the doctor stays employed, he’s a terrible host. Back when they had foreign players as in studio guests during series he would be speaking English for the majority of the broadcast and poor Herscheille Gibbs would be sitting there awkwardly.

As for Rashid, he did not bring much other then constant criticism, complaining and bitterness. I also found he mumbled a lot and it was hard to understand what he was saying.
 
I am waiting for his buddy Nauman Niaz to be fired next, he is probably making 3x times what Rashid was making... He is the probably the biggest parchi in Pakistan history.
 
The salaries are just not justified when 70% of the discussion is off topic. It is like bedroom gossip. Why would Rashid take CS role when he is being paid million per month for this easy job. Hypocrite
 
Rashid Latif fired from PTV by CEO Naeem Bukhari, who approved the sackings in a meeting with the board of directors.

The channel cited shortage of funds for terminating their contracts. It has 3,560 full-time workers and is looking to reduce the number of contractual employees.

The Ministry of Information and Broadcasting approved the move.

WhatsApp-Image-2020-12-08-at-10.51.25-AM-640x360.jpeg

He was earning 9.5 lacs?!? Wow! He was unbearable with his conspiracy theories and efforts to always try and find a ridiculous angle to everything!

This is loot maar of the highest order!
 
The salaries are just not justified when 70% of the discussion is off topic. It is like bedroom gossip. Why would Rashid take CS role when he is being paid million per month for this easy job. Hypocrite

I couldn't bear the way they conducted that show. The trio thought that they were coming across highly intellectual with their casual demeanor but as a viewer, it was pathetic to watch.
 
The show was/is terrible, I would rather watch the ads on PTV than watch this show -- and that is saying something.

Unfortunately, we dont have a lot of good analysts in Pakistan ... infact I can hardly think of any. Ex cricketers think they deserve to be paid for showing up at places just because they may have played a few matches. If we look at analysts from other countries, they spend a lot of time researching, discussing and upskilling themselves in these roles.
 
Very well put. I’ve also noticed one more thing, they complain a lot about the PCB and current coaching setup (many complaints are valid, many I disagree with) but when they hosted Wasim Khan, Nadeem Khan, Misbah ul Haq, Azhar Ali, and others involved in the setup, they were suddenly completely shy and averse from asking some of the same incisive questions or asking directly about policies and selection decisions.

In other words, they just didn’t know how to put their money where their mouths were. Building on that, they rarely talk about team strategy, balance, and statistically-backed inferences on the different questions.

For example, they talk about how the PCB needs to shed the “liking and disliking” culture, and then openly talk about their own likes and dislikes (Dr. Nauman has a grudge against Imam ul Haq, for example) without ever bringing up a statistical comparison with the other options available. They simply say “x person deserved it more, he’s been performing for years” - these days the golden boy is Sami Aslam, without ever providing a statistical comparison to Shan Masood and Abid Ali. I don’t mind them arguing in Sami’s favor - it’s about how they argue it.

At best, I see them quote that person’s domestic average. I have rarely seen them go into details like a batsman’s strike rate, let alone strike rate by phase of the game or a bowler’s economy rate, let alone economy by phase of the game.

Critical analyses often degenerate into Rashid and Shoaib telling tales of their 90s and 00s rodeos, and there are entire segments devoted to padding each other up.

Note that I have the utmost respect for all three of them, and I watch Game on Hai regularly (on 2x speed) because there is decent analysis in between all the fluff. But the show is run horribly.
Yes that is what I am talking about. You have absolutely nailed the first part of your answer. I remember a couple of hours before they had an interview with Misbah, Dr Nauman said on Twitter to post questions. Many people told him to ask Misbah, why he always picks Iftikhar Ahmed despite him failing numerous times, but he never asked that. Another time was when they interviewed Nadeem Khan and asked the same questions that every viewer pretty much knew. Then the next day, they started mentioning how Nadeem Khan should do this and he should do that. Especially Rashid Latif, he talks alot about something but when the time comes to ask the individual right in front of you, they become shy. Then again most journalists in Pakistan are like that.

For the past two yrs, I have never seen all three of them talk about a player and not relate it to the 90's or their cricketing days. Like cricket has become modern, no one wants hear your stories. An analyst job is to analyze a player and every stat of the player. Like you have said, they only talk about the average of the player and personal liking.

If you ever watch Sky Sports, they talk about a player and have graphs and charts and argue with each other in a way that is entertaining for the viewers. Whenever I watch the analysts arguing and giving their point of views on sky
sports, I cant pick any side bc of how knowledgeable they are of the specific topic on the given day.

Honestly this move to fire Shoaib and Rashid Latif is lowkey a good move. To top it off they also fired the chief Technology Officer as well as others which is good for PTV Sports.

Now if PTV can get modern tech for analyzing the game and have knowledgeable analysts then that will be good.
 
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Rumors on Twitter that he is next chief selector is it true?
 
I can't understand what Rashid says half the time and struggle to take cues from his body language as its stiff. His sentences are short, abrupt and muddled. Perhaps my Urdu is not up to par. Does anyone else struggle with comprehending him?
 
Yes that is what I am talking about. You have absolutely nailed the first part of your answer. I remember a couple of hours before they had an interview with Misbah, Dr Nauman said on Twitter to post questions. Many people told him to ask Misbah, why he always picks Iftikhar Ahmed despite him failing numerous times, but he never asked that. Another time was when they interviewed Nadeem Khan and asked the same questions that every viewer pretty much knew. Then the next day, they started mentioning how Nadeem Khan should do this and he should do that. Especially Rashid Latif, he talks alot about something but when the time comes to ask the individual right in front of you, they become shy. Then again most journalists in Pakistan are like that.

For the past two yrs, I have never seen all three of them talk about a player and not relate it to the 90's or their cricketing days. Like cricket has become modern, no one wants hear your stories. An analyst job is to analyze a player and every stat of the player. Like you have said, they only talk about the average of the player and personal liking.

If you ever watch Sky Sports, they talk about a player and have graphs and charts and argue with each other in a way that is entertaining for the viewers. Whenever I watch the analysts arguing and giving their point of views on sky
sports, I cant pick any side bc of how knowledgeable they are of the specific topic on the given day.

Honestly this move to fire Shoaib and Rashid Latif is lowkey a good move. To top it off they also fired the chief Technology Officer as well as others which is good for PTV Sports.

Now if PTV can get modern tech for analyzing the game and have knowledgeable analysts then that will be good.

I don't think Shoaib has been fired yet. I know that the current PTV Chairman has a soft spot for Shoaib
 
If Rashid Latif becomes Chief Selector, you can blame me for jinxing it on this thread.

Once upon a time I thought it would be a good idea, but then I started to listen to his thoughts on team combinations and selection policies and he is an extremely “safe” thinker without willing to follow domestic cricket or create a specific brand of cricket.

He barely knows anything about his own region Sindh, I would be terrified if he attempted to make selections for the national team.
 
Rashid is the worst Possible choice for CS. I would take Misbah over him and that tells you something. He is a bitter person who is stuck in the past. From what I have seen on Twitter it looks mostly like some Twitter journos pushing the agenda. Looks more like a pressure tactic.

Hopefully, he isn't given the job because if he is then we are setting our Cricket even further back than it already is.
 
He was earning 9.5 lacs?!? Wow! He was unbearable with his conspiracy theories and efforts to always try and find a ridiculous angle to everything!

This is loot maar of the highest order!

A lot of money to spend on no real insight, quality opinions or interesting cricketing awareness.
 
A lot of money to spend on no real insight, quality opinions or interesting cricketing awareness.

Goes on to show how much those that are running the affairs of the country are out of touch with reality.

Paying that money to Rashid and Shoaib for casual dining room chats is criminal.
 
Goes on to show how much those that are running the affairs of the country are out of touch with reality.

Paying that money to Rashid and Shoaib for casual dining room chats is criminal.

And that's what you get with a lot of cricket coverage in Pakistan. Poor analysis, cheap comedy and a very basic understanding of cricket.

Money being wasted.
 
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