Why do India fans concentrate so much on World Cup win records?

[Major]

I never got this, no other team concentrate on such records as they are quite irrelevant.

India boosts about that 6-0 record, but people often forget Pakistan has a 7-0 record against Sri Lanka, yet not a single Pakistani cares about such a record.

However whenever we are playing against India, this thing is bought up.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Because India n pak arch rivals, sl is not. Aus n eng fans would have done the same if Aus never won against eng in wc's

 

[Major]

Because India n pak arch rivals, sl is not. Aus n eng fans would have done the same if Aus never won against eng in wc's

But at the same time Indian fans deny the rivalry and say how there are no match in world cups

 

[Indiafan]

Because there is a world cup going on

 

[Mkumar825]

Bcz India- Pakistan are arch rivals .

 

[WebGuru]

I never got this, no other team concentrate on such records as they are quite irrelevant.

India boosts about that 6-0 record, but people often forget Pakistan has a 7-0 record against Sri Lanka, yet not a single Pakistani cares about such a record.

However whenever we are playing against India, this thing is bought up.

And it's not just limited to SL.

Since 1987 Pakistan and England faced each other 6 times in World Cups and Pakistan won 5 of them.

Pakistan and NZ faced each other 8 times in World Cups and Pakistan won 6 of them.

And i am sure not many are aware of our great record in World Cups against these 2 teams...

 

[dhump]

because head to head I think Pakistan is still ahead of India that is why they concentrate on World Cup matches only.

 

[WebGuru]

because head to head I think Pakistan is still ahead of India that is why they concentrate on World Cup matches only.

It's kinda like Hockey. Pakistan won 4 World Cup titles in Hockey and India only 1 so Indians mostly compare Olympics titles in Hockey when doing comparison because India won more in Olympics.

 

[Mkumar825]

because head to head I think Pakistan is still ahead of India that is why they concentrate on World Cup matches only.

Just one question ,do you want to win in world cup against India or any other bilateral series match ???? Which you prefer???

 

[dhump]

Just one question ,do you want to win in world cup against India or any other bilateral series match ???? Which you prefer???

I dont give a crap about how we play agianst India win is a win World Cup or not. Pakistan was better team for a very long time hence the record and there are many historic and remarkable victories to remmember and now India is a better team for some years lets see for how long they can be better of two.

 

[Mkumar825]

I dont give a crap about how we play agianst India win is a win World Cup or not. Pakistan was better team for a very long time hence the record and there are many historic and remarkable victories to remmember and now India is a better team for some years lets see for how long they can be better of two.

Lol I just ask a simple question ??? Which win you prefer ,in wc/bilateral??

 

[pakpassfan]

It's kinda like Hockey. Pakistan won 4 World Cup titles in Hockey and India only 1 so Indians mostly compare Olympics titles in Hockey when doing comparison because India won more in Olympics.

the indian thing is to pick something which favors them and concentrate on that. Rest of the things dont matter

 

[Revolution]

I never got this, no other team concentrate on such records as they are quite irrelevant.

India boosts about that 6-0 record, but people often forget Pakistan has a 7-0 record against Sri Lanka, yet not a single Pakistani cares about such a record.

However whenever we are playing against India, this thing is bought up.

It's our pride.. These type of success will motivate our younger generation.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Because it’s fun to laugh at Pakistan’s 11 straight defeats to us in the world cups

What you have with Lankans or Kenyans is none of our concern.

 

[Mkumar825]

It's not random stats

 

[Major]

Because it’s fun to laugh at Pakistan’s 11 straight defeats to us in the world cups

What you have with Lankans or Kenyans is none of our concern.

see this is how selective you guys are.

Had we been losing in Champions trophy, then it would had been ICC events.

NOw world cups(even though a world t20 is not a world cup)

 

[WebGuru]

Let's forget about head to head ODI record but why our neighbors never talk about Pak vs India Test matches and Away Test record (Pak vs India)? Is it because Pakistan is still ahead

 

[Bhaijaan]

see this is how selective you guys are.

Had we been losing in Champions trophy, then it would had been ICC events.

NOw world cups(even though a world t20 is not a world cup)

That’s the fun in it.

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

Of course, India will talk about where they are superior. That's what banter is about.

Pakistan will do the same when they have superiority anywhere.

I don't see where is the surprise.

 

[big_gamer007]

The so called steak is something which undertaker made famous. After undertaker made the word "streak" a cool word, Indian media picked it up for India Vs Pakistan world cup and ever since then it's become famous.

You are reading too much into it [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] it's a way of banter and online trolling. Basically both Indians and Pakistanis feel the need to look down on each other to feel better about their own teams
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] Undertaker has a huge role in Ind-Pak cricket also it seems

 

[MP2011]

Of course, India will talk about where they are superior. That's what banter is about.

Pakistan will do the same when they have superiority anywhere.

I don't see where is the surprise.

Exactly. We're trolled for our vastly inferior H2H record against Pakistan which is fair enough.

 

[MP2011]

Let's forget about head to head ODI record but why our neighbors never talk about Pak vs India Test matches and Away Test record (Pak vs India)? Is it because Pakistan is still ahead

Thats probably because test cricket isn't as popular in both countries as the ODI cricket is.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Of course, India will talk about where they are superior. That's what banter is about.

Pakistan will do the same when they have superiority anywhere.

I don't see where is the surprise.

Exactly.

People don’t get the fun element of it at all and get too serious and bitter about it.

Haunsala rakho.

Himmat aur daleri dikhao yaaaro

 

[MP2011]

Also, the fact that Pakistan is yet to win a single WC game against us despite possessing a far superior team for most of those encounters (4/6) is what exacerbates trolling.

PS: All that is going to change, come 16th June, 2019.

 

[Sarwar89]

Indian cricket fans talk about world cup records to great extent for some reasons.
1) Pakistan has vastly superior head to head ODI record against India, i think it is 76-54 in Pakistan Favor.

2) In Test Arena Pakistan has superior record with 12-9 in Pakistan Favor. In T20's India is better. But T20's are not taken seriously by purists and history books readers.

India never really boasted or talked about it's ICC stats against Pakistan until they won a crucial match at Old Trafford, in 1999 world cup. A game where Pakistan failed to chase down 228.

Until 1 day before that old trafford clash, Indian supporters generally avoided direct comparisons between India and Pakistan cricket team, and generally would not get into debates on head to head, because they knew stats were heavily against them.

But for me the turning point of India v Pakistan was in ICC Events was 1 Delivery, which changed the course of history until Bumrah's No-Ball nullified it against Fakhar Zaman.

That 1 delivery was Venkatesh Prasad to Aamer Sohail in Bangalore 96 Quarter Final. Commentators were Shastri and Imran Khan. Aamer arrogance and boastful behavior costed him the wicket, the match and that was the real beginning.

If Pakistan beats India in World cup final, that will level out all defeats in ICC Events, they already have done 50% of the job by beating them in ICC 2017 Champions Trophy final. I have witnessed live on TV all defeats in front of my eyes 92,96,99,03,11,15. In my opinion 92,96,99 all those matches were within our grasp.
As for Hockey, Again Pakistan has vastly superior head to head record against India, but they will only talk about Olympics. World cup is world cup. 4 world cups in Hockey is still by far the most by any nation and we shall be proud of that achievement. in terms of land size Pakistan is 5 times smaller than India and In terms of population Pakistan is 7 times smaller than India. And to have these impressive statistics against them should make us feel proud in my opinion.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Not sure anyone "concentrates". But Pakistan fans have opened threads discussing about breaking the streak Actually Pak fans care more about it as it is still a streak.

 

[Mamoon]

It is an absolutely brilliant record and deserves to be highlighted. The difference between our overall H2H record against India and the World Cup streak is that the India have a 100% winning record with no exceptions.

The "0" is what makes India's streak more special than Pakistan's superior H2H record. As far as Pakistan's streak against SL is concerned, it doesn't get any hype because Pakistan and SL are not rivals, and hardly anyone can remember all the encounters between the two teams in World Cups. However, Pakistan vs India matches in World Cups are etched in history, and the fact that India have literally won every single time is extraordinary.

If the shoe was on the other foot, we would be talking about the streak 24/7. Indians at least have the courtesy to forget about when there isn't a World Cup going on.

 

[Swashbuckler]

1. Banter

2. Indo-Pak WC matches are the most widely followed, high pressure matches in the world of cricket. If you remember what you went through during Mohali, I certainly do because I have never felt such emotions during any other sporting encounter my whole life.

3. When you add the WT20s it is something like 0-11 or 0-12, obviously statistically very very odd. In at least half those encounters Pak were either favorites or 50-50.

4. I think Wasim Akram started talking about the streak before the 2003 WC match, before that not many were keen. Maybe the defeats in 92, 96, 99 when Pakistan was a far superior team hurt his ego or something. I won't say it is just the Indian fans who bring up this stat, many Pakistani fans too want to end the streak.


I personally don't care about the streak or H2H in cricket, hockey or any other sport. I know the Indo-Pak H2H in the 3 formats (9-12, 56-74, 6-1) because it is a hot topic of discussion here. Otherwise I do not know our H2H against other teams. I don't even care because if we are lagging in H2H behind West Indies still, it doesn't change the fact that we have been far better than them for many years now. Similarly we don't play much against Pakistan these days, just like there was a drought in the 60s and early 70s.

I only care about ICC trophies and the test mace. We beat you guys in 1992, 1999 but overall you finished above us. What use are those matches? 1996, 2003 and 2011 have some significance, especially Mohali because that won us the cup. If we beat you guys on 16th I will be happy but I would rather lose that match and win the world cup instead of what happened in 2015. I am sure Pak fans will have a similar sentiment, we are here to win the cup, individual matches are just a few milestones in the long journey.

 

[Ozeirk]

Because we pretty much wipe the floor with them on all other team records.

 

[WengerOut]

Confirmed, only CT 17 and JAMODIs matter.

 

[Itachi]

On one hand, there are special threads about India Pak battle months before world cup (started by Pakistani) green storm is coming.... This hurricane .... That green tornado....

And then we Indians are asked why we give so much importance? You can't have it both.

Do you (Pakistani) guys give that importance to a SL match?

It is brought up because this clash is valued by both of us.

 

[Ozeirk]

It is an absolutely brilliant record and deserves to be highlighted. The difference between our overall H2H record against India and the World Cup streak is that the India have a 100% winning record with no exceptions.

The "0" is what makes India's streak more special than Pakistan's superior H2H record. As far as Pakistan's streak against SL is concerned, it doesn't get any hype because Pakistan and SL are not rivals, and hardly anyone can remember all the encounters between the two teams in World Cups. However, Pakistan vs India matches in World Cups are etched in history, and the fact that India have literally won every single time is extraordinary.

If the shoe was on the other foot, we would be talking about the streak 24/7. Indians at least have the courtesy to forget about when there isn't a World Cup going on.

I think if Pakistan had a similar streak it wouldn't have gotten as much attention because Pakistan already beats India by a big margin in h2h in both one days and tests. Indian media and fans had a huge role in desperately highlighting this particular record because if they don't have that they look pretty ordinary against Pakistan.

 

[Technics 1210]

No one cares about 6-0 other than Indians for the reasons the WC is the only sphere where india is ahead of Pakistan in terms of victories. However no one cares about group stage games either, only the winner of the WC (or a comp) is etched in memory, the rest is forgotten.

This is why more people will remember the CT17 final than 6 games in the WC! Don't believe me? Go watch the 2 Pakistan matches in this WC and EVERY SINGLE commentator mentioned the CT17 final. No commentator mentioned Mohali or 1992, or 2015 WC encounters between Pak/Ind, but the one match repeatedly mentioned was the CT17 final.

Winners are remembered in the end, and until India beats Pakistan in an ODI comp final, the 6-0 streak is a pointless chest thumping stat.

 

[geraltofrivia]

No one cares about 6-0 other than Indians for the reasons the WC is the only sphere where india is ahead of Pakistan in terms of victories. However no one cares about group stage games either, only the winner of the WC (or a comp) is etched in memory, the rest is forgotten.

This is why more people will remember the CT17 final than 6 games in the WC! Don't believe me? Go watch the 2 Pakistan matches in this WC and EVERY SINGLE commentator mentioned the CT17 final. No commentator mentioned Mohali or 1992, or 2015 WC encounters between Pak/Ind, but the one match repeatedly mentioned was the CT17 final.

Winners are remembered in the end, and until India beats Pakistan in an ODI comp final, the 6-0 streak is a pointless chest thumping stat.

Why just world cup cricket then, why not olympics medals won or commonwealth games medals won or asian games medals won or tennis grand slams won etc etc? kuch tu sharm kar.

only reason ppl talk about 2017 ct is because it was recent. india won the 13 ct too defeating pakistan in the way. is it indias fault that the pakistan team sucks and keeps getting kicked out in the first round except for the ct fluke.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Winners are remembered in the end, and until India beats Pakistan in an ODI comp final, the 6-0 streak is a pointless chest thumping stat.

In 1985 World Championship of Cricket, India did beat Pakistan in the final. That was equivalent to the Champions Trophy, all test playing nations participated in that tournament.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Championship_of_Cricket

 

[Mamoon]

I think if Pakistan had a similar streak it wouldn't have gotten as much attention because Pakistan already beats India by a big margin in h2h in both one days and tests. Indian media and fans had a huge role in desperately highlighting this particular record because if they don't have that they look pretty ordinary against Pakistan.

I don't think there is any desperation on India's front. Regardless of the H2H, Indian cricket has comfortably surpassed Pakistan cricket now. Until the 90's, Pakistan was ahead of India, but they have left us in their dust in the last two decades. They have a much higher standing in the game and have produced greater cricketers in the last two decades. This streak is simply an icing on the cake.

Most Pakistani fans, whether they admit it or not, would happily swap places with India.

India:

2 World Cup trophies, unbeaten against Pakistan in World Cups, much better performances against all teams (maybe except England) in the last two decades compared to Pakistan, multiple stints as the number one ranked Test and ODI team, and they have produced quite a few players in the last two decades that would walk into their all-time XI.

Pakistan:

1 World Cup trophy and none since 1992, 100% losing record against India in World Cups, lost a Test series at home to India in 2004, inferior performances against all teams (maybe except England) compared to India, we have never been ranked number 1 in ODIs and have mostly been ranked 5th or 6th, and we only reached the top in Tests for about three weeks before India overtook us again. In addition, apart from Younis, we have not produced a single cricketer since the 2000s who has a shot at walking into our all-time XI.

 

[Technics 1210]

Why just world cup cricket then, why not olympics medals won or commonwealth games medals won or asian games medals won or tennis grand slams won etc etc? kuch tu sharm kar.

only reason ppl talk about 2017 ct is because it was recent. india won the 13 ct too defeating pakistan in the way. is it indias fault that the pakistan team sucks and keeps getting kicked out in the first round except for the ct fluke.

Proof the CT17 final still hurts and will continue to hurt until India beats Pakistan in a WC final (now that CT is no more).

If you want to include Olympic medals etc, then include all cricket H2H records, which you won't cos Pakistan is ahead of India in cricket H2H records, and will be for some time unless bilateral series are resumed.

 

[Syed1]

That's because they have pathetic win/loss record against MOST international teams including their greatest rival who have dished out epic beating match after match. Despite having an ATG team for a decade they haven't been able to reverse these win/loss ratios against any team. That is why their fans take solace in meaningless stats like world cup streaks

 

[Mkumar825]

Hahaha now world cup win also meaningless so what is important win any one tell ??

 

[Syed1]

Hahaha now world cup win also meaningless so what is important win any one tell ??

You guys even count the 92 and 99 WC wins even though Pak reached final on both occasions and even won it once. If that isn't a meaningless win I don't know what is.

 

[Technics 1210]

Another point to remember is that Indian fans have been reduced to the 6-0 stat. Some even mistake the WT20 as a world cup because it bolsters the stat. The same applies for CT stats, but since 2017, Indian fans do not mention CT stats anymore.

From India have won all ICC cups, to India has one more ICC WC than Pakstan after CT17. Soon there will be some other obscure stat which they will dance around but it's all good fun.

 

[Technics 1210]

Outside the WC, that Miandad 6 still haunts the older generation of Indian fans.

The irony is with India being a stronger team in the past 10 years, the H2H gap would have been reduced by now, but instead has widened even further since 2000!

 

[Mkumar825]

Another point to remember is that Indian fans have been reduced to the 6-0 stat. Some even mistake the WT20 as a world cup because it bolsters the stat. The same applies for CT stats, but since 2017, Indian fans do not mention CT stats anymore.

From India have won all ICC cups, to India has one more ICC WC than Pakstan after CT17. Soon there will be some other obscure stat which they will dance around but it's all good fun.

India won 2 WC ,2 champion trophy ,1 wt20 where Pak won 1 each three tournament. So now u can count how many more India win

 

[Thomaskutty]

Pakistan has historically been the better white ball team, which is why the streak has been an amusing subplot in ICC events. Not amusing, tis funny infact. Too funny!

Hope the streak is intact on the 16th

 

[Syed1]

India won 2 WC ,2 champion trophy ,1 wt20 where Pak won 1 each three tournament. So now u can count how many more India win

LMAO you are even counting the rain-off shared CT win with SL. Some people are really desperate )

 

[Technics 1210]

India won 2 WC ,2 champion trophy ,1 wt20 where Pak won 1 each three tournament. So now u can count how many more India win

India has won 1 CT, and shared the other CT with SL after rain effected both days of play. Just like fans like you believe WT20 is
WC. But hey if helps you sleep better at night, go for it!

 

[Arajit]

I never got this, no other team concentrate on such records as they are quite irrelevant.

India boosts about that 6-0 record, but people often forget Pakistan has a 7-0 record against Sri Lanka, yet not a single Pakistani cares about such a record.

However whenever we are playing against India, this thing is bought up.

Have seen many Threads/Posts by Pakistani Fans here on ending the losing streak in this World 2019. And you feel India is obsessed with this world cup record and not a single pakistani cares about such records

ISNT IT IRONIC

 

[CricFan2012]

We would be flaunting this exact record if it was 6-0 in our favour, we already flaunt the overall ODI record, but even thats under threat so obnoxious fans use CT final win nowadays

I dislike this type of banter however, both fans going at each others using these numbers, its about the given day, anyone can win.

 

[WengerOut]

India has won 1 CT, and shared the other CT with SL after rain effected both days of play. Just like fans like you believe WT20 is
WC. But hey if helps you sleep better at night, go for it!

1985 Benson and Hedges and guess who they beat

 

[Swashbuckler]

Proof the CT17 final still hurts and will continue to hurt until India beats Pakistan in a WC final (now that CT is no more).

CT17 nullified 1985 WCC

Outside the WC, that Miandad 6 still haunts the older generation of Indian fans.

True but returned the favor twice

The irony is with India being a stronger team in the past 10 years, the H2H gap would have been reduced by now, but instead has widened even further since 2000!

Factually wrong, +1 in our favor in ODIs as well as tests since Jan 1, 2000. And Pakistan was stronger than India till 2003 Centurion, there were remnants of that great 90s team in early 2000s and we suffered many defeats in the 2000-2002 period. We have played each other (ODIs) only 13 times this decade which is way too less to change any H2H.

 

[WengerOut]

Infact Pakistan has never beaten India in a WC final.

 

[dhump]

Lol I just ask a simple question ??? Which win you prefer ,in wc/bilateral??

I dont give a tiny rats *** about how we play agianst India win is a win World Cup or not. Pakistan was better team for a very long time hence the record and there are many historic and remarkable victories to remmember and now India is a better team for some years lets see for how long they can be better of two.

And I provided you the most straightforward possible answer what part you didn't understand?

 

[warcry]

indians concentrate on their world cup win records vs pakistan,but seem reluctant to bring up their world cup records vs other teams.
and also say that india and pakistan are not rivals.

now india does have a 6-0 record vs pakistan. do i care?
nah
all i want is for pakistan to win the world cup, how that happens, is of no importance to me whatsoever.

 

[Snowflake]

I just laugh whenever this 'record' is brought up. Objective in the WC is to win the entire thing, not a solitary game against a particular country. What has the the 11-0 or 6-0 streak brought to India? One, yes just one, more World Cup trophy than Pakistan ) The fact that this record includes Indian victories like in 1992 tells you that is completely lacking any context!

So, while the number itself may look daunting, it really doesn't stand for much.

However, with H2H record against Pak, I can see why the Indians would this so dearly to their hearts

 

[geraltofrivia]

I just laugh whenever this 'record' is brought up. Objective in the WC is to win the entire thing, not a solitary game against a particular country. What has the the 11-0 or 6-0 streak brought to India? One, yes just one, more World Cup trophy than Pakistan ) The fact that this record includes Indian victories like in 1992 tells you that is completely lacking any context!

So, while the number itself may look daunting, it really doesn't stand for much.

However, with H2H record against Pak, I can see why the Indians would this so dearly to their hearts

Zara Kam kar shaangiri
Kam kar zara kam kar yeh lukhey giri Kam kar
Thanda kar jo bhukhaar tere sar par Kam kar
Guroor yeh Khatam kar!

Bhaag bhaag Bhaag
Aya sher, Aya sher
Bhaag bhaag Bhaag
Aya sher, Aya sher
Bhaag bhaag Bhaag
Aya sher, Aya sher

 

[Technics 1210]

Stop crying. 1985 Benson hedges is the new comeback.

Seriously, this desperate? Grow up! 1985 tournament was not even an ICC tournament! Lol! But if you want to play by these rules, that Miandad 6 still haunts Indian fans. Remind me what final that was?

Hahahaha.

 

[Technics 1210]

Waiting for indian fans to call BH85 a Champions trophy. Lol!

 

[Sarwar89]

How about Nehru Cup then in 1989.
Pakistan beat India in Nehru Cup.
Nehru cup nullifies BH85.

 

[Cheetha_pun]

Pakistan talks abt CT17 final but never mention T20 wc final ����

 

[Vitaly]

100% Win record in World cup against your arch rival is nothing?

 

[Technics 1210]

Pakistan talks abt CT17 final but never mention T20 wc final ����

Except WT20 is not a world cup. Lol! Don't take my word for it, have a read on the ICC website!

 

[Mkumar825]

100% Win record in World cup against your arch rival is nothing?

Just few days left for your ans .when match start you can see how much important have this ongoing streak.

 

[Swashbuckler]

How about Nehru Cup then in 1989.
Pakistan beat India in Nehru Cup.
Nehru cup nullifies BH85.

Nehru Cup (NZ didn't play) win was in group stage, we didn't make it to the final. Pakistan beat England in SF and West Indies in F. 1985 World Championship of Cricket (all test playing nations played), we beat you in the group stage and then in the final
So how can Nehru Cup nullify WCC ?

 

[Smbhayi]

bcs one side of score line is 0.. once Pak one game then it won't be matter much.. also if SL had 7-0 record over Pak then they should also create mauka mayluka ad..

 

[Itachi]

Stop crying. 1985 Benson hedges is the new comeback.

Seriously, this desperate? Grow up! 1985 tournament was not even an ICC tournament! Lol! But if you want to play by these rules, that Miandad 6 still haunts Indian fans. Remind me what final that was?

Hahahaha.

This streak is what plays in the mind of Pakistani players. Forget the fans, it gives a psychological disadvantages for Pakistani pro cricket players where they bring pressure on themselves and then crumble upon due to their own weight without even India attacking.

 

[Sarwar89]

Nehru Cup (NZ didn't play) win was in group stage, we didn't make it to the final. Pakistan beat England in SF and West Indies in F. 1985 World Championship of Cricket (all test playing nations played), we beat you in the group stage and then in the final
So how can Nehru Cup nullify WCC ?

As if New zealand was powerhouse of world cricket in 1989 lol.
Zimbabwe did not play in BHCup 85, ok they did not have test status but they did not feature in BH85, secondly it was a tournament composed of 7 teams only. Nehru cup had 6 teams. Not much of a difference. And Nehru cup was hosted in India. To win Test Series in India 1987 and then Nehru cup in India 1989 were significant achievementd by Pakistan.
Plus Australasia Cup final 1986.

 

[Itachi]

As if New zealand was powerhouse of world cricket in 1989 lol.
Zimbabwe did not play in BHCup 85, ok they did not have test status but they did not feature in BH85, secondly it was a tournament composed of 7 teams only. Nehru cup had 6 teams. Not much of a difference. And Nehru cup was hosted in India. To win Test Series in India 1987 and then Nehru cup in India 1989 were significant achievementd by Pakistan.
Plus Australasia Cup final 1986.

NZ was a power house in the late 80s and early 90s.

 

[battler]

I just laugh whenever this 'record' is brought up. Objective in the WC is to win the entire thing, not a solitary game against a particular country. What has the the 11-0 or 6-0 streak brought to India? One, yes just one, more World Cup trophy than Pakistan ) The fact that this record includes Indian victories like in 1992 tells you that is completely lacking any context!

So, while the number itself may look daunting, it really doesn't stand for much.

However, with H2H record against Pak, I can see why the Indians would this so dearly to their hearts

Yeah all those kitply and coca cola cup losses really hurt us

 

[Sarwar89]

Nehru Cup (NZ didn't play) win was in group stage, we didn't make it to the final. Pakistan beat England in SF and West Indies in F. 1985 World Championship of Cricket (all test playing nations played), we beat you in the group stage and then in the final
So how can Nehru Cup nullify WCC ?

NZ was a power house in the late 80s and early 90s.

They were not.
Nzl miserably featured in 1987 world cup. Performed poorly in Sub continent all the way in that era. Nzl were minnows in subcontinent at that time.

 

[Technics 1210]

This streak is what plays in the mind of Pakistani players. Forget the fans, it gives a psychological disadvantages for Pakistani pro cricket players where they bring pressure on themselves and then crumble upon due to their own weight without even India attacking.

If you say so, but not beating india in the WC doesn't stop Pakistan from winning the WC. That's the difference.

The only psychological damage was after CT17. The Indian bravado is no more because india were brought back from cloud 99 due to a humbling defeat of uber proportions - which can only be topped If India beat Pakistan in the WC final. After all, baap baap hota he.

 

[Technics 1210]

Does raise an interesting point, if Pakistan do beat india in this WC, what will indian fans pull out of the hat? I can guess now - *we have won Red and White ball WC* - lol!

 

[Itachi]

If you say so, but not beating india in the WC doesn't stop Pakistan from winning the WC. That's the difference.

The only psychological damage was after CT17. The Indian bravado is no more because india were brought back from cloud 99 due to a humbling defeat of uber proportions - which can only be topped If India beat Pakistan in the WC final. After all, baap baap hota he.

1. Actually India was brought back to earth by England after the 2011 WC. That series was what the most embarassing series for us as Indians.

2. Baap baap hota hain. Agreed. Pakistan was born from India so India will always have a upper hand be it economy or any other sector including cricket.

 

[Mamoon]

Does raise an interesting point, if Pakistan do beat india in this WC, what will indian fans pull out of the hat? I can guess now - *we have won Red and White ball WC* - lol!

They don’t have to pull out anything. India is far ahead of Pakistan and is now a much bigger cricket nation. The two teams are not on equal footing where a single win over India in a World Cup will give Pakistan bragging rights.

 

[Technics 1210]

1. Actually India was brought back to earth by England after the 2011 WC. That series was what the most embarassing series for us as Indians.

2. Baap baap hota hain. Agreed. Pakistan was born from India so India will always have a upper hand be it economy or any other sector including cricket.

India brought back to earth after the match was a tie vs England, and winning the WC at home? Yeah right!!!!

You are definitely hurt though, bringing in 1947 history and the economy into the discussion. Well good for you, though I agree with you Pakistan carved india into 3 pieces. Humbling as ever.

 

[Itachi]

India brought back to earth after the match was a tie vs England, and winning the WC at home? Yeah right!!!!

You are definitely hurt though, bringing in 1947 history and the economy into the discussion. Well good for you, though I agree with you Pakistan carved india into 3 pieces. Humbling as ever.

You should have had looked in to threads when I mentioned 2011. That's the first thing I would have done had others asked me the same question.

After the 2011 world cup, the team India was called as the successor to the great Aussies and could rule the cricket world for decade.

The next series was England where India failed to win even one match. Except Rahul Dravid, all others failed in that series. That was the biggest embarassment which shocked even the Pakistani fans.

 

[Sarwar89]

You are definitely hurt though, bringing in 1947 history and the economy into the discussion. Well good for you, though I agree with you Pakistan carved india into 3 pieces. Humbling as ever. [/QUOTE]

Isnt it an achievement then ? That a country carved out from British India has better record against them H2H in ODI, Test Cricket and field Hockey ?
72-54,12-9,82-62
Plus India boasts about 2 World cups, 1 ICC Champions trophy lets make it 2. Ok 2. And 1 ICC T20 Wcup.
But Pakistan has 4 Hockey world cups and India only 1.
It nullifies everything. India never won Hockey Champions trophy. Pak won 3.

 

[Itachi]

Isnt it an achievement then ? That a country carved out from British India has better record against them H2H in ODI, Test Cricket and field Hockey ?
72-54,12-9,82-62
Plus India boasts about 2 World cups, 1 ICC Champions trophy lets make it 2. Ok 2. And 1 ICC T20 Wcup.
But Pakistan has 4 Hockey world cups and India only 1.
It nullifies everything. India never won Hockey Champions trophy. Pak won 3.

You call it an achievement. I call it the brightest flame just before the candle burns out.

Depends upon perspective.

 

[Hawkeye]

Because the H2H record is abysmal for them and they can't be boasting about it.

So they selectively pick and choose.

IND has been a whipping boy for Pak team for decades. It's only recently that they started winning a bit more matches.

 

[Technics 1210]

You should have had looked in to threads when I mentioned 2011. That's the first thing I would have done had others asked me the same question.

After the 2011 world cup, the team India was called as the successor to the great Aussies and could rule the cricket world for decade.

The next series was England where India failed to win even one match. Except Rahul Dravid, all others failed in that series. That was the biggest embarassment which shocked even the Pakistani fans.

India has a special affiliation for England.

The 4-0 whitewash you are referring to was in 2012, and a Test series, but please do not pretend india had a wake-up call in ICC tournaments, india were World Champions after all. If so, then sure the Anne Do series, remember that, remember the adverts? Now that back fired after Pakistan won 2-1 in india, so if anything Pakistan brought india back to earth, again.

 

[Technics 1210]

Because the H2H record is abysmal for them and they can't be boasting about it.

So they selectively pick and choose.

IND has been a whipping boy for Pak team for decades. It's only recently that they started winning a bit more matches.

Even post 2000, Pakistan edges in the H2H record. After the anne do series I doubt they'd ever take the risk again.