Why do Pakistanis show more respect towards Virat Kohli in comparison to Sachin Tendulkar?

[Hitman]

Yes then there was one in Pakistan in a test match where he scored a ton and didn't finish the match. Kohli is better. I am sorry I don't have time to dig stats as I am occupied with work $$$

So what you mean is you made a blanket statement and don't remember any such instances other than those two?

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

So what you mean is you made a blanket statement and don't remember any such instances other than those two?

There are many more which some pundits can bring in but I have seen him failed numerous times against Aussies in world cup, 2003 World Cup against Mcgrath. Wasn't really up for for the challenge when India needed him the most. Wasn't his best against the best team in the world. Sewag and Dravid stood up in the final. So for me he was highly overrated. Kohli on the other hand has chased down many totals.

But don't falsely accuse me when you haven't quoted me before Hitman. It's not every Hitman likely, don't want me to do a Montreal screw job do you

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

There are many more which some pundits can bring in but I have seen him failed numerous times against Aussies in world cup, 2003 World Cup against Mcgrath. Wasn't really up for for the challenge when India needed him the most. Wasn't his best against the best team in the world. Sewag and Dravid stood up in the final. So for me he was highly overrated. Kohli on the other hand has chased down many totals.

But don't falsely accuse me when you haven't quoted me before Hitman. It's not every Hitman likely, don't want me to do a Montreal screw job do you

It's not very Hitman like, don't want me to do a Montreal screw job do you.

Peace

 

[Hitman]

There are many more which some pundits can bring in but I have seen him failed numerous times against Aussies in world cup, 2003 World Cup against Mcgrath. Wasn't really up for for the challenge when India needed him the most. Wasn't his best against the best team in the world. Sewag and Dravid stood up in the final. So for me he was highly overrated. Kohli on the other hand has chased down many totals.

But don't falsely accuse me when you haven't quoted me before Hitman. It's not every Hitman likely, don't want me to do a Montreal screw job do you

Einstein, here's what you wrote -

Also in ODI's Kohli finish matches for his country while Sachin gets out after his ton and even used to throw away winning positions.

So give us instances where he gave up immediately after scoring a century while chasing due to which India lost. So far you have given the example of just the Chennai Test. Go ahead.

 

[Hitman]

[MENTION=45836]Ashraful_Rox[/MENTION]

Now here's something to educate you. SRT scored 17 centuries while chansing in ODI's. Out of them, India won 14 matches and lost just 3 matches.

Here are those 3 matches -

1. vs Aus (1998) - 143 off 131 balls - He helped India qualify for the final with that knock. And in the final he once agin scored a century against Australia helping India win the series.

2. vs Pak (2004) - 141 off 135 balls

3. vs Aus (2009) - 175 off 141 balls


Here is what you wrote -

Also in ODI's Kohli finish matches for his country while Sachin gets out after his ton and even used to throw away winning positions.

A word of advise - check your facts before embarrassing yourself next time.

 

[CadPakFan]

It's not for you people. Muslims also live in India .

I know that, but as Pakistan is a Muslim majority country, they give a lot of respect towards him because of that.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

As I'm sure it's been said in this post: respect is earned and never given. Kohli has earned respect from Pakistani fans.

Also, I must add, SRT is highly respected in Pakistan. In next Pak v India game in Lahore/Karachi, he will receive a standing ovation, soon (Insha'Allah).

 

[KingKhanWC]

How many players tweeted congratulations to Pakistan?

Plenty

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-their-stunning-Champions-Trophy-2017-triumph


Tendulkar was at the match, his face was on t.v screens on a few occasions. As the match ended he decided to tweet about hockey instead lol. Poor sportsmanship but not surprising from Sachin.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Damn didn't know that hockey tweet hurt some people so bad.

The whole situation was comic. Had he congratulated the Pak team people would have criticized him as well

It didn't hurt me, just a funny little anecdote.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

[MENTION=45836]Ashraful_Rox[/MENTION]

Now here's something to educate you. SRT scored 17 centuries while chansing in ODI's. Out of them, India won 14 matches and lost just 3 matches.

Here are those 3 matches -

1. vs Aus (1998) - 143 off 131 balls - He helped India qualify for the final with that knock. And in the final he once agin scored a century against Australia helping India win the series.

2. vs Pak (2004) - 141 off 135 balls

3. vs Aus (2009) - 175 off 141 balls


Here is what you wrote -




A word of advise - check your facts before embarrassing yourself next time.

He was chasing a total of 300 plus against Aussies where he crumbled after reaching towards the total as he is more like Shakib, you know how India were they used to play with Kenya and Namibia so he still had the mentality. I haven’t seen him chasing any totals successfully in World Cup or in any ODIs. I don’t have free time like you, do me a favour and find me some knocks where he scored a century at a losing cause. Educate yourself and that’s a sweetchin music

 

[Mr. Cricket]

[MENTION=45836]Ashraful_Rox[/MENTION]

Now here's something to educate you. SRT scored 17 centuries while chansing in ODI's. Out of them, India won 14 matches and lost just 3 matches.

Here are those 3 matches -

1. vs Aus (1998) - 143 off 131 balls - He helped India qualify for the final with that knock. And in the final he once agin scored a century against Australia helping India win the series.

2. vs Pak (2004) - 141 off 135 balls

3. vs Aus (2009) - 175 off 141 balls


Here is what you wrote -




A word of advise - check your facts before embarrassing yourself next time.

Your criteria is incorrect, he played 400 matches and even KL Rahul can win India 8-10 matches if he can play that match.
Better criteria will be avg while chasing and it's mere 43 . I mostly feel that if Sachin had not played so many matches he would not be considered great, well bcz now we remember him as most run by any batsmen. He is never mention for impact he had created like Viv Richard, Ricky ponting etc.
One more thing Sachin failure as a captain reveal about his pressure handling abilities.
He can run when there is no pressure.
This is my thought , suggestions are welcome with stats.
And if somebody can post the Kohli and Sachin match winning century while chasing so that we can find the opponents against which they score.

 

[Rana]

This generation of Pakistani cricketer really has no spine, guts to stand up to aggressive opponents. A gent like Tendulkar would get cursed by a nobody like Taufeeq Umar, the bigger boys would sledge him also knowing the guy wouldn’t retaliate.

Kohli is a different breed, different kind of guy. He is the king of IPL and therefore he holds huge influence in India and all of its dressing rooms. Entity against Kohli could prove costly really because of the tantrums and the grudges the guy would hold

 

[Mr. Cricket]

Plenty

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-their-stunning-Champions-Trophy-2017-triumph


Tendulkar was at the match, his face was on t.v screens on a few occasions. As the match ended he decided to tweet about hockey instead lol. Poor sportsmanship but not surprising from Sachin.

So why you have problem with that. He knows you have fluke win and still a low grade team which prove after a year in Asia cup.
We appreciate every sports equally and it's his matter of choice to congrats our own hockey team.

 

[KingKhanWC]

So why you have problem with that. He knows you have fluke win and still a low grade team which prove after a year in Asia cup.
We appreciate every sports equally and it's his matter of choice to congrats our own hockey team.

There is no problem for me, I dont expect good sportsmanship from any Indian player. He looked pretty sad when Pakistan were romping to victory. You cannot win a cricket match by a fluke, the term is used when you play a very bad shot and it works out or something unexpected happens in one moment. India were owned, humiliated which is why Sachin was too embrassed to praise Pakistani imo.

 

[BaankeJi]

Plenty

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-their-stunning-Champions-Trophy-2017-triumph


Tendulkar was at the match, his face was on t.v screens on a few occasions. As the match ended he decided to tweet about hockey instead lol. Poor sportsmanship but not surprising from Sachin.

To be fair to him, neither him nor other Indian ex-players were tweeting much about Champions Trophy during the whole tournament.

Cannot be held against his sportsmanship. There are many incidents where he has proven his sportsmanship numerous times.

Congratulating would have been good though. Agree on that front.

 

[KingKhanWC]

To be fair to him, neither him nor other Indian ex-players were tweeting much about Champions Trophy during the whole tournament.

Cannot be held against his sportsmanship. There are many incidents where he has proven his sportsmanship numerous times.

Congratulating would have been good though. Agree on that front.

It was up to him but I can undrestand as many who have made statements in support of Pakistan are criticised in India. But overall Indian and Pakistani players get along very well, more than they do with players from other nations, which makes it all very sad to see divisions between both sets of people.

 

[ElRaja]

two main reasons i feel, first his performance against pakistan:

plenty of batsmen performed better than him against pakistan especially in test cricket, below are stats between when he played first and last test against pakistan. its not that hes mediocre, of all the batsmen to have scored 1000 runs against pak, hes got the lowest average.



of those matches he only averaged around 30 against paks better bowling attacks including only one hundred, his 194* was scored against an attack with shoaib as the only real test quality bowler. even saqi was finished by then. in odis he did better, but pak fans always feared lara more.

secondly the blind worship of the guy. i dont care which player you take in any sports history, no one is venerated as much as tendu, granted he was an excellent cricketer who represented an india getting more confident about itself, but some of the adulation he receives borders on the sycophantic.

i cant speak for other pak fans, but i valued the wickets of sehwag and dravid far more in test cricket.

kohli on the other hand has a tiny sample size, however his t20i record is immaculate against pak, and despite his odi record being inconsistent, his overall stats are in a completely different league. kohli is the greatest odi batsmen of all time, tendu is behind kohli, richards, and abdv.

 

[gazza619]

two main reasons i feel, first his performance against pakistan:

plenty of batsmen performed better than him against pakistan especially in test cricket, below are stats between when he played first and last test against pakistan. its not that hes mediocre, of all the batsmen to have scored 1000 runs against pak, hes got the lowest average.

View attachment 86743

of those matches he only averaged around 30 against paks better bowling attacks including only one hundred, his 194* was scored against an attack with shoaib as the only real test quality bowler. even saqi was finished by then. in odis he did better, but pak fans always feared lara more.

secondly the blind worship of the guy. i dont care which player you take in any sports history, no one is venerated as much as tendu, granted he was an excellent cricketer who represented an india getting more confident about itself, but some of the adulation he receives borders on the sycophantic.

i cant speak for other pak fans, but i valued the wickets of sehwag and dravid far more in test cricket.

kohli on the other hand has a tiny sample size, however his t20i record is immaculate against pak, and despite his odi record being inconsistent, his overall stats are in a completely different league. kohli is the greatest odi batsmen of all time, tendu is behind kohli, richards, and abdv.

Very good analysis. Though it would have been interesting to see how Kohli would have performed against the same quality which Sachin faced.

 

[ElRaja]

Very good analysis. Though it would have been interesting to see how Kohli would have performed against the same quality which Sachin faced.

against the two w's, saqi, etc i think he would defo average over tendus 30, again maybe not consistently, but when he got in im sure hed score a few big hundreds which would have pulled his average into the 40s.

against the latter attacks he would have plundered, i mean sami, rana naved, sohail tanvir, yasir arafat, fat akhter, kaneria, razzaq he would have plundered.

other than asif and akhter none of the others would have made the pak team in any other era, i mean the attacks pak put out in the 00s against india were pbly the worst since the dark days of the 60s and early 70s.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Because he's a Pakistani in the guise of an Indian

 

[Mr. Cricket]

two main reasons i feel, first his performance against pakistan:

plenty of batsmen performed better than him against pakistan especially in test cricket, below are stats between when he played first and last test against pakistan. its not that hes mediocre, of all the batsmen to have scored 1000 runs against pak, hes got the lowest average.

View attachment 86743

of those matches he only averaged around 30 against paks better bowling attacks including only one hundred, his 194* was scored against an attack with shoaib as the only real test quality bowler. even saqi was finished by then. in odis he did better, but pak fans always feared lara more.

secondly the blind worship of the guy. i dont care which player you take in any sports history, no one is venerated as much as tendu, granted he was an excellent cricketer who represented an india getting more confident about itself, but some of the adulation he receives borders on the sycophantic.

i cant speak for other pak fans, but i valued the wickets of sehwag and dravid far more in test cricket.

kohli on the other hand has a tiny sample size, however his t20i record is immaculate against pak, and despite his odi record being inconsistent, his overall stats are in a completely different league. kohli is the greatest odi batsmen of all time, tendu is behind kohli, richards, and abdv.

I am an Indian and your are correct , some of our stupid fan treat him as god and I hate that. There are far better batsmen and sports person in India like hockey legend dhyan Chand.
Kohli is removing this workship culture. He always show him human who play good cricket.

 

[TM Riddle]

Your criteria is incorrect, he played 400 matches and even KL Rahul can win India 8-10 matches if he can play that match.
Better criteria will be avg while chasing and it's mere 43 . I mostly feel that if Sachin had not played so many matches he would not be considered great, well bcz now we remember him as most run by any batsmen. He is never mention for impact he had created like Viv Richard, Ricky ponting etc.
One more thing Sachin failure as a captain reveal about his pressure handling abilities.
He can run when there is no pressure.
This is my thought , suggestions are welcome with stats.
And if somebody can post the Kohli and Sachin match winning century while chasing so that we can find the opponents against which they score.

The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent.

 

[RickyG]

Tendulkar was an artist whereas Kohli is a machine. A machine will in the long run yield greater productivity than an artist.

Also, Indians probably care more for style over substance. Hence why they view Tendulkar as superior because he was great to watch.

Finally, Tendulkar is to India what Harry Potter is to millennials. He is boy wonder and infallible. Kohli is an antihero.

 

[Hitman]

He was chasing a total of 300 plus against Aussies where he crumbled after reaching towards the total as he is more like Shakib, you know how India were they used to play with Kenya and Namibia so he still had the mentality. I haven’t seen him chasing any totals successfully in World Cup or in any ODIs. I don’t have free time like you, do me a favour and find me some knocks where he scored a century at a losing cause. Educate yourself and that’s a sweetchin music

Genius, here's what you wrote -

Also in ODI's Kohli finish matches for his country while Sachin gets out after his ton and even used to throw away winning positions.

You said that he often got out after reaching a century which yielded in losses for India.

He scored just 3 centuries while chasing that yielded loses for India. In all of those occasions he didn't get out immediately after scoring a century. And one of those loses helped us to qualify for the final of that tournament, and in the final he once again scored a century against the Aussies to win India the tournament. So that loss doesn't count.

So in essence, he scored just 2 centuries while chasing that yielded loses for India. And in both the cases he didn't get out immediately after scoring a century. In one match he scored 140+ and in the other match he scored 170+

How what about your original statement?

 

[Adijazz1706]

Because he is more charismatic and can have a laugh after losing a final realising it's just a game. While Tendu tweets about hockey despite watching said final live like a sore loser

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Because he is more charismatic and can have a laugh after losing a final realising it's just a game. While Tendu tweets about hockey despite watching said final live like a sore loser

VK is kind of a guy who doesn't care much about others' opinions. After CT final he was laughing alongside Pakistani players, he knew that people would criticize him but I don't think he ever cared. Same when he said that those people who don't like Indian batsmen should change country or something.

Sachin, on the other hand, cares too much. I refuse to believe he didn't congratulate team on twitter out of hate for Pakistan's victory. But he knows he's got sensible Indian fans ( ) so SRT just remained silent.

And as I said earlier, people in Pakistan do love SRT. Heck, my father always praises him whenever he's mentioned in a conversation (and Sunny as well)

 

[Indiafan]

Your criteria is incorrect, he played 400 matches and even KL Rahul can win India 8-10 matches if he can play that match.
Better criteria will be avg while chasing and it's mere 43 . I mostly feel that if Sachin had not played so many matches he would not be considered great, well bcz now we remember him as most run by any batsmen. He is never mention for impact he had created like Viv Richard, Ricky ponting etc.
One more thing Sachin failure as a captain reveal about his pressure handling abilities.
He can run when there is no pressure.
This is my thought , suggestions are welcome with stats.
And if somebody can post the Kohli and Sachin match winning century while chasing so that we can find the opponents against which they score.

Sachin was considered one of the greatest ever BEFORE he broke a single record or before he played long. He has played plenty of great innings under immense pressure when his team was even 5 6 down. Almost every expert rated him very highly much before he played long

His captaincy failed because his team was full of fixers and indian politics at that time did not allow captain much power and he had little say in team selection

 

[Indiafan]

I am an Indian and your are correct , some of our stupid fan treat him as god and I hate that. There are far better batsmen and sports person in India like hockey legend dhyan Chand.
Kohli is removing this workship culture. He always show him human who play good cricket.

Exce0t at this stage if his career sachin was exactly like kohli. It took decades for sachin to reach that stage

 

[Indiafan]

two main reasons i feel, first his performance against pakistan:

plenty of batsmen performed better than him against pakistan especially in test cricket, below are stats between when he played first and last test against pakistan. its not that hes mediocre, of all the batsmen to have scored 1000 runs against pak, hes got the lowest average.

View attachment 86743

of those matches he only averaged around 30 against paks better bowling attacks including only one hundred, his 194* was scored against an attack with shoaib as the only real test quality bowler. even saqi was finished by then. in odis he did better, but pak fans always feared lara more.

secondly the blind worship of the guy. i dont care which player you take in any sports history, no one is venerated as much as tendu, granted he was an excellent cricketer who represented an india getting more confident about itself, but some of the adulation he receives borders on the sycophantic.

i cant speak for other pak fans, but i valued the wickets of sehwag and dravid far more in test cricket.

kohli on the other hand has a tiny sample size, however his t20i record is immaculate against pak, and despite his odi record being inconsistent, his overall stats are in a completely different league. kohli is the greatest odi batsmen of all time, tendu is behind kohli, richards, and abdv.

You are completely ignoring the fact that sachin hardly played Pakistan at his peak. The series he did play later he was suffering big time from his elbow injury. It's a pity we didn't see peak sachin against Pakistani attack

As for blind worship, there was lot of blind sachin hatred from pal side too

 

[Hitman]

Sachin was considered one of the greatest ever BEFORE he broke a single record or before he played long. He has played plenty of great innings under immense pressure when his team was even 5 6 down. Almost every expert rated him very highly much before he played long

His captaincy failed because his team was full of fixers and indian politics at that time did not allow captain much power and he had little say in team selection

Apologies if I offend you out you sound very young who Olli knows about sachin from cricinfo stats

He was being compared to Bradman back in the 90's itself

 

[Mr. Cricket]

He was being compared to Bradman back in the 90's itself

But not today, I guess his elbow injury regressed him. If today Sachin is considered as next Bradman than it is mockery to dravid, pointing and Lara bcz they are as good as Sachin and dravid win us good match outside subcontinent.
In one day he is good not great as he never cross 900 rating ever in his career like ABD, which shows he is not as dominating as we use to make him. He is more consistent in 40-50 avg not like Kohli or and who avg more than 50 for last 3 years.

 

[aukhan]

Sachin was a selfish player who was more focused on creating records than winning games for his team. The 100th 100 exposed him badly in front of everyone. Kohli on the other hand prioritize winning instead of running after personal achievements.

 

[Ikball]

When I saw Pakistani great interview like Shoaib Akhtar who on his controversial interview believe that Sachin is not a match winner but when he talks about Kohli he shows lot of respect.
Same with wasim Akram who admire Gavasker and talk about Kohli match winning abilities, same with Saqlain Mushtag, Javed Miandad, Inzamam ul haq also.
I mostly agree with these greats but not most Indian.
Even leaving one or two Pakistani PPers most considered him better.
If you agree with my opinion than why?
If not , feel free to give your opinion.

1- He Never hit a SIX to any Pakistani bowler even phatu players in his entire test career.
2. It was very famous in Pakistan that Whenever SRT scores a hundred vs Pakistan in ODIs, India will lose the match.

 

[ElRaja]

You are completely ignoring the fact that sachin hardly played Pakistan at his peak. The series he did play later he was suffering big time from his elbow injury. It's a pity we didn't see peak sachin against Pakistani attack

so the other players in the list i pasted did not have lean patches? you're clutching at straws mate.

he played 3 tests in 99 when he averaged 70 odd for the three years in 98, 99, 00, in the three tests against pak he averaged 30, his best year average wise was 2004, when he scored the 194* against a fairly rubbish bowling attack barring shoaib, his other innings in that series were all single digits.

18 tests over 18 years is more than enough for pak fans to form a judgement, and 2 hundred in 18 tests, one on a road of a pitch where sehwag destroyed pak, and the other in a losing cause, and 1 hundred in 11 tests against arguably the weakest bowling attacks pak have had justifies pak fans views that when it came to playing pakistan in tests, he was ordinary.

in fact a quick look at the list below just to what a great extent sehwag and dravid were carrying the rest of the batsmen in the noughties and why most pak fans (imo) will always rate them above tendu.

As for blind worship, there was lot of blind sachin hatred from pal side too

no pak fan ive ever met has hated on sachin, its just that his fans cant see anyone disagree with they're view that hes the best ever.

 

[JaDed]

Honestly I don’t care because for me even in the last 1 year of his career Sachin was still performing better than this dud Kohli.
We need a Gunda like Dhoni who can retire such people, insane how he didn’t retire then either.

 

[MP2011]

It's ultimate insult of someone like Tendulkar who was so hard working and humble, always someone who respected whatever form of cricket he got to play, to be mentioned in same sentence as someone as arrogant and selfish as Kohli is.

 

[BCCI-Enforcer]

Pakistani too much disrespect of Sachin because in that time BCCI didn't have much economy power so Pakistani could insult day and night and show bravado. Plus in that time Pakistan also had superstars. Many Indians in that time loved Wasim, Waqar, Imran , Javed, Inzamam. But all these people said foul things about India in the end.

But now Pakistan has nobody so their public needs heroes and they look at India. They think loving Virat will mean BCCI will agree to tours. And now Indians know that not to trust Pakistan stars so we don't give any publicity.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Because Virat Kohli is not biased or hypocritical like Sachin Tendulkar.

 

[IAJ]

Pakistani too much disrespect of Sachin because in that time BCCI didn't have much economy power so Pakistani could insult day and night and show bravado. Plus in that time Pakistan also had superstars. Many Indians in that time loved Wasim, Waqar, Imran , Javed, Inzamam. But all these people said foul things about India in the end.

But now Pakistan has nobody so their public needs heroes and they look at India. They think loving Virat will mean BCCI will agree to tours. And now Indians know that not to trust Pakistan stars so we don't give any publicity.

I have seen many poor posts here at PP over the years, but this one must be one of the worst.

Firstly why not try to let pakistanis answer themselves instead of putting words in their mouth?

I know Pakistani team is rubbish at the moment, but I don't for a single sec look to India for heroes. Of Course India have many great players and I respect them but they are not my heroes lol.

And what has Kohli to do with India playing Pakistan lol. It's fun watching Pakistan v India matches, but it's not like people are losing their sleep not seeing them play.

Coming back to the actual topic I respect both SRT and Kohli equally because both are great players.

 

[Rajdeep]

Because Virat Kohli is not biased or hypocritical like Sachin Tendulkar.

Why is Sachin biased and hypocritical? LOL

 

[sweep_shot]

Tendulkar is a gentleman and a classy fella. He might have statpadded but his personality is pleasant.

Kohli is very obnoxious and entitled. Unpleasant fella.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Indians expect us to worship and get annoyed when we won't want to comply. seems like a boring individual, no personality and mostly scored tame knock in losing cause. Plus his fans behave like hyenas ready to twist any stat to make look good.

Kohli made a big impact especially against Pakistan. He played aggressive impactful innings plus seems like an affable fella despite his occasional passionate outbursts.

 

[shaz619]

Because Kohli is Sachin’s big daddy type character

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Do they ?.

Bollywood culture I guess

 

[Farabi]

Because Virat Kohli raised his game against Pakistan.

Sachin T was an underperformed against Pakistan until Wasim Waqar and Saqlain hung their boots and most feasted on B Pakistani attacks.

 

[Technics 1210]

Kohli isn’t a sook. Never committed perjury. Never supported religious fanatics. Appreciates the opposition win or lose CT17 final). Finally Kohli has a personality 1000 times better than that of Tendulkar.

Plus Kohli has actually spanked Pakistan a number of times whereas Tendulkar was tamed to his knees by Pakistan.

 

[pillionrider]

He looks more Pakistani than Sachin.

He epitomized the brash flamboyant life, younger Pakistanis aspired to.

He was friendlier to Pakistani players than Sachin who was anyway shy with most people, most of his career. Virat also made sure to flaunt this publicly. Also was in an era where more of this could be captured on video.

Pakistanis were misguided by Imran Khan to believe it was just a matter of a year or two before they produced their own Sachin. What they didn't realize was this was just Imran's competition with Kapil spilling over onto the national stage. In Virat's time, there was no Pakistani captain of IK's stature who could brainwash people even if he tried.

By the time Virat arrived, Indian players thanks to the IPL were richer. Pakistanis were excluded and Virat began to represent everything that was within touching distance, yet so far. Virat stimulated the baser instincts but managed to do it without also inspiring hate and jealousy. Which is a pretty great achievement by him.

 

[Technics 1210]

It's ultimate insult of someone like Tendulkar who was so hard working and humble, always someone who respected whatever form of cricket he got to play, to be mentioned in same sentence as someone as arrogant and selfish as Kohli is.

Being arrogant and selfish isn’t illegal. In fact these are traits of leadership qualities in an aggressive sport.

This is why Kohli was light-years more successful as captain compared with Tendulkar’s humble captaincy.

Kohli is hard working too no?

 

[big_gamer007]

Well the answer is fairly obvious isn’t it?

Pakistanis (including their cricketers) in general are clueless about most things which reflects in the state of their nation as well as cricket.

Pakistanis will probably be at the bottom of the list on people whose opinions matter.

 

[big_gamer007]

He looks more Pakistani than Sachin.

He epitomized the brash flamboyant life, younger Pakistanis aspired to.

He was friendlier to Pakistani players than Sachin who was anyway shy with most people, most of his career. Virat also made sure to flaunt this publicly. Also was in an era where more of this could be captured on video.

Pakistanis were misguided by Imran Khan to believe it was just a matter of a year or two before they produced their own Sachin. What they didn't realize was this was just Imran's competition with Kapil spilling over onto the national stage. In Virat's time, there was no Pakistani captain of IK's stature who could brainwash people even if he tried.

By the time Virat arrived, Indian players thanks to the IPL were richer. Pakistanis were excluded and Virat with his Bollywood wife began to represent everything that was within touching distance, yet so far. Virat stimulated the baser instincts but managed to do it without also inspiring hate and jealousy. Which is a pretty great achievement by him.

That’s a quality post.

 

[Technics 1210]

He looks more Pakistani than Sachin.

He epitomized the brash flamboyant life, younger Pakistanis aspired to.

He was friendlier to Pakistani players than Sachin who was anyway shy with most people, most of his career. Virat also made sure to flaunt this publicly. Also was in an era where more of this could be captured on video.

Pakistanis were misguided by Imran Khan to believe it was just a matter of a year or two before they produced their own Sachin. What they didn't realize was this was just Imran's competition with Kapil spilling over onto the national stage. In Virat's time, there was no Pakistani captain of IK's stature who could brainwash people even if he tried.

By the time Virat arrived, Indian players thanks to the IPL were richer. Pakistanis were excluded and Virat with his Bollywood wife began to represent everything that was within touching distance, yet so far. Virat stimulated the baser instincts but managed to do it without also inspiring hate and jealousy. Which is a pretty great achievement by him.

The world will never forget the hockey tweet on CT17 final. The was mega sour grapes from Tendulkar. What a colossal sook.

Pakistan also respects Dravid, who is equally as humble and spanked Pakistan too, plus congratulated Pakistan on CT17 win.

Who on earth would want to look up to sook-serial-loser Sachin?

 

[pillionrider]

The world will never forget the hockey tweet on CT17 final. The was mega sour grapes from Tendulkar. What a colossal sook.

Pakistan also respects Dravid, who is equally as humble and spanked Pakistan too, plus congratulated Pakistan on CT17 win.

Who on earth would want to look up to sook-serial-loser Sachin?

1. The CT final lack-of-post plus hockey post was pathetic, not poor.
2. Pakistanis claim to respect Dravid. He is actually too boring for them. As a player I mean. The only reason they do that is a lame attempt to big up someone in contrast to Sachin. Ganguly would have been the preferred one but he had an average test record as a player. They don't understand the fuss around Laxman. Sehwag was traumatic plus he's a troll plus average SENA record to lean back on.
3. As an Indian fan, I can tell you that Sachin changed the way we felt when Wasim Akram came back for a spell. Before Sachin, it was tingles in the feet and a sense of inevitability. Post-Sachin it was adrenalin-type excitement.

 

[BouncerGuy]

I respect both of these guys. They are the same for me at least as a player. Sachin maybe a GOD for Indians but not for me.

He is a cricket player and was a great batter just like virat. Thats it.

 

[MP2011]

Being arrogant and selfish isn’t illegal. In fact these are traits of leadership qualities in an aggressive sport.

This is why Kohli was light-years more successful as captain compared with Tendulkar’s humble captaincy.

Kohli is hard working too no?

Arrogance while giving no returns for 5 years is moronic, nothing else.

Pre COVID, Kohli was scoring runs so all his bad behavior was pushed under the carpet, not any longer.

Kohli was hard working before 2020 when he genuinely looked to correct his technical deficiencies, cue 2018 England tour even though he stopped playing FC cricket altogether which is never good for any international cricketer. Now he is just leeching off Indian cricket.

As for Kohli being a far better captain Tendulkar, it's true, no question about that. Tendulkar was a poor leader and it showed in his results.

 

[mango_bite77]

Virat can never match Sachin's humility. The guy is as fake as Abibas shoes.

 

[mominsaigol]

People have respect for both. I can't speak for all pakistani's but it gets annoying when Indians obsessively try to put words in our mouth.

They did this with Sachin and now it seems bumrah is the 2nd father.

Indians are obsessed with proving to others that Sachin and bumrah are no 1 with no equals. Which is fine.

If thats what you believe then more power to you, but then what's the obsession with asking other nations to worship? Are you guys seriously that delusional to believe that you can expect pakistani's to bowl down to you in their forumn while you're invaders?

With kohli the reason he's respected is because he isn't overhyped that much.

The general consensus for kohli is that he's top 3 odi players of all time, you can rank him 1, 2, 3 doesn't matter he's up their somewhere.

And that he's a garbage test cricketer.

Kohli fans don't shove kohli into people's mouths that much probably because doing that would also undervalue their father Sachin.

As it stands

Kohli > Sachin in odi
Sachin > Kohli in tests.

But Indians fans who are obsessed with putting Sachin at one will cry, whine and complain and will argue day and night to put Sachin > Kohli in odi lol.

 

[Farabi]

He looks more Pakistani than Sachin.

He epitomized the brash flamboyant life, younger Pakistanis aspired to.

He was friendlier to Pakistani players than Sachin who was anyway shy with most people, most of his career. Virat also made sure to flaunt this publicly. Also was in an era where more of this could be captured on video.

Pakistanis were misguided by Imran Khan to believe it was just a matter of a year or two before they produced their own Sachin. What they didn't realize was this was just Imran's competition with Kapil spilling over onto the national stage. In Virat's time, there was no Pakistani captain of IK's stature who could brainwash people even if he tried.

By the time Virat arrived, Indian players thanks to the IPL were richer. Pakistanis were excluded and Virat began to represent everything that was within touching distance, yet so far. Virat stimulated the baser instincts but managed to do it without also inspiring hate and jealousy. Which is a pretty great achievement by him.

Kohli’s real claim to fame is that he has some outrageous performances against Pakistan. It feels like he averages infinity or something. This factor is the gravity of the matter.