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Why do Premier League teams appoint the same old failed British managers over and over again?

Markhor

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Tony Pulis, Sam Allardyce, David Moyes, Alan Pardew, Roy Hodgson, Mark Hughes.

Whenever a PL manager is sacked, you can safely bet the names of one of these gentlemen will crop up.

These guys are the epitome of mediocrity - go look at their win percentages and trophy count. There's a reason why they get sacked over and again yet somehow find themselves in a job over and again. This is the Managerial Merrygoround and is exactly why English football is a global laughing stock.

Fair enough, Pulis and Allardyce will at most prevent relegation through their horrible but initially effective brands of football, but that's their ceiling as managers. Yet only in England are such mediocre standards lauded as spectacular achievements by a servile media. If not in the dugout, this Old Boys Club will usually have a lucrative TV gig lined up until the next poor sap decides to roll out the red carpet for their services.

The new club will say we need "experienced managers to steady the ship" despite the fact there are better, younger managers like Hughton, Dyche and Howe to name three who can do more than just barely vault over an already low bar.

Then England will crash and burn at an international tournament and we ask why young English managers aren't given opportunities...
 
Whenever they are sacked they go on Sky and keep themselves in the public eye and that is like an extended job interview in a very friendly environment. And some of them do a decent job by keeping underachieving clubs in the Premier League.
 
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Amazed that Everton, of all clubs, have Big Sam...
 
Premier league managers don't have innovation, they play the same style of Rugby type football with alot of set pieces played... however I think owners don't want that anymore, which is why these managers are mostly stop gap until they find a decent one. More goals are being scored in the league, and defensive discipline isn't the same what it sued to be.

Managers earn a hell of alot of money here, which is why the top 6 clubs have the reputable names, and almost all big names have tried their luck in the PL.

One of the best recent managers has been Pochettino, who managed Southampton and then Tottenham, need more managers like him in the PL for smaller clubs
 
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I can see why Allardyce keeps getting work, he may be sour as a net of lemons and a total fruitcake but some of his removals (including by England) have been for non-footballing reasons, and he does seem to improve the ability of a side to get results - if not aesthetically! - whenever he takes a job.

The biggest examples of homegrown TTFs are Pardew and particularly Moyes, absolutely useless managers who are laughing all the way to the bank every few years - with a sympathetic citation from the LMA thrown in - when they are finally chucked back onto the scrap heap yet again. I guess they just have clever agents who know how to get their 20% commission - by taking advantage of vulnerable football clubs frightened of relegation and financial strife.

One of the most disgraceful managerial depositions ever for me remains the termination of Hughton at Newcastle in favour of Pardew. Sickening stuff.
 
I can see why Allardyce keeps getting work, he may be sour as a net of lemons and a total fruitcake but some of his removals (including by England) have been for non-footballing reasons, and he does seem to improve the ability of a side to get results - if not aesthetically! - whenever he takes a job.

The biggest examples of homegrown TTFs are Pardew and particularly Moyes, absolutely useless managers who are laughing all the way to the bank every few years - with a sympathetic citation from the LMA thrown in - when they are finally chucked back onto the scrap heap yet again. I guess they just have clever agents who know how to get their 20% commission - by taking advantage of vulnerable football clubs frightened of relegation and financial strife.

One of the most disgraceful managerial depositions ever for me remains the termination of Hughton at Newcastle in favour of Pardew. Sickening stuff.

Pardew and Allardyce have exactly the same win percentages. 35.8 to 35. Both have led their teams to domestic finals, both have exactly the same average positions in the league. Both take over teams, stabilise them and then leave.
 
One of the most disgraceful managerial depositions ever for me remains the termination of Hughton at Newcastle in favour of Pardew. Sickening stuff.


Was it worse than Allardyce's at Blackburn after the Venkys took over?
 
Sam allardyce has had a decenitsh career for smaller clubs with his defensive 90's style tactics... Which is ok if you got limited budget and can't attract any decent players and your sole aim is to survive..

David moyes did extremely well at Everton so he gets hired for that record.. Let's see till how long he can flaunt that record till clubs start realising he offers nothing new..

Rest I agree with your post.
 
Because Fulham experimented with Felix Mcgath a bundesliga winner who got it completely wrong here same is for Di Canio Dick Advocaat at Sunderland
 
Banking and Football - 2 places where failure at previous job is not considered as a bad thing!
 
That's because the English think their league is the best in the world when it isn't even in the top 5. These are the best managers you guys have available. Get a better league get better managers.
 
Interesting thread, especially in the case of some (re-)appointments.
 
Interesting thread, especially in the case of some (re-)appointments.

Yeah!

Although I do disagree with the inclusion of Moyes by Markhor.

Moyes has been reasonably dependable all his career and did reasonably well at Everton. Looking back at the way Man Utd have handled managers post fergie you can give him the benefit of the doubt there and he has been ok at West Ham. A decent prem finish one year and a couple of European runs is a good return for a manager.
 
Yeah!

Although I do disagree with the inclusion of Moyes by Markhor.

Moyes has been reasonably dependable all his career and did reasonably well at Everton. Looking back at the way Man Utd have handled managers post fergie you can give him the benefit of the doubt there and he has been ok at West Ham. A decent prem finish one year and a couple of European runs is a good return for a manager.

Dean Smith helped us get back into the PL, not all of these managers are useless, you just need to gauge their level and capability. Good shout on Moyes, looking back, he was undeservedly ostracised by United fans, it was going to be a big task, being the first to replace Fergie; it was a learning curve for him to, dealing with a bigger budget. Am glad he has had this run with West Ham to restore his reputation.
 
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