Why Indian Hindutva supporters back Israel on Gaza bombing

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Israel has faced global condemnation for its actions in occupied East Jerusalem and continued bombing of the Gaza Strip, but it has found support in India where pro-government activists have thrown their weight behind Israel, with some defending its policy against Palestinians.

Hashtags such as #ISupportIsrael, #IndiaWithIsrael, #IndiaStandsWithIsrael and #IsrealUnderFire have trended on Indian social media over the past week, many calling Palestinians “terrorists” – a term used by Israel for Palestinian resistance groups. On Saturday night, #PalestineTerrorists was one of the top trends on Twitter in the South Asian nation.

West Bank, Israeli forces have killed at least 19 Palestinians protesting against the forced expulsion of Palestinian families from their homes.

At least 10 Israelis have also been killed in rockets fired by Hamas fighters from Gaza.

Support for Israel has been amplified on social media, particularly Twitter and Instagram, by top members of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), lawyers and journalists among others.

On May 12, BJP Member of Parliament Tejasvi Surya, known for his anti-Muslim rhetoric, wrote on twitter: “We are with you. Stay strong, Israel.”

His tweet, in response to a post by Israel’s foreign ministry, was liked nearly 50,000 times and retweeted nearly 13,000 times.

‘Visceral hatred for Muslims’
BJP spokesman from the northern Indian city of Chandigarh, Gaurav Goel, has been regularly tweeting in support of Israel. On Friday he tweeted a picture of Israeli forces, writing: “Dear Israelis, you are not alone, we Indians stand strongly with you.” It was liked 3,600 times.

Hardik Bhavsar, a Twitter user followed by 134,000 people including Prime Minister Modi and Home Minister Shah, on Saturday shared a video of a high-rise tower that hosted media offices, including Al Jazeera and Associated Press, destroyed in Israeli bombardment.

“Happy Dipawali liberals. #IndiaStandWithIsrael,” he tweeted mocking liberal Indians who oppose Israeli militarism, referring to Dipawali, the Hindu festival of lights. It was liked nearly 3,000 times.

I reiterate India’s strong support to the just Palestinian cause and its unwavering commitment to the two-state solution.

Indian journalist and writer Rana Ayyub on Sunday wrote that while checking most of the #IndiaStandWithIsrael tweet handles, a common thread that runs through is a “visceral hatred for Muslims and a bloodlust to see Muslims massacred and shown their place”.

“Most handles [are] followed by one or more BJP minister or the PM himself,” she added.

At least 212 Palestinians, including 61 children, have been killed and more than 1,000 others wounded in one week of intense Israeli air attacks in besieged Gaza [File: Mohammed Salem/Reuters]
Srinivas Kodali, a writer and researcher working on data, governance and internet, told Al Jazeera there is a section of polarised Hindutva (Hindu-ness) groups who support Israel’s actions against Palestine purely because Muslims are being persecuted.
“It is their hate towards Muslims that is making them cheer Israel’s actions,” he said.

India’s historic support of Palestine

India has historically supported Palestinian self-determination as part of its anti-colonial solidarity following its independence from British rule in 1947.

The country was the first non-Arab country to recognise the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) as “the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people”. A PLO office was set up in New Delhi in 1975.

India issued a commemorative postage stamp on November 29, 1981, to mark the international day of solidarity with the Palestinian people.

The evolution of India’s Palestine policy goes back to pre-independence days when Indian nationalists looked upon Palestinians as fellow “brothers-in-bondage”.

India’s freedom fighter Mahatma Gandhi famously said in 1938, “Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French.”

The South Asian nation recognised Israel in 1950 but established diplomatic relations only in 1992. Since then, ties have grown by leaps and bounds, with defence becoming their main pillar. India is currently Israel’s biggest defence buyer, accounting for 46 percent of Israel’s arms exports.

India and Israel’s ties have strengthened significantly in recent decades, especially under Prime Minister Modi and his Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu. In July 2017, Modi, who counts Netanyahu among his “friends”, became the first-ever Indian prime minister to visit Israel.

“India’s policy [towards Israel] shifted in 1991. It had to do with the eagerness to be a subordinate ally of the US,” said Vijay Parshad, editor of Letters to Palestine: Writers Respond to War and Occupation.

Parshad said while the Indian ruling class – wider than the BJP – supports Israel, the general sentiment is not so clear. “India’s close ties with the Gulf prevent a Brazil-style pivot. However, as the UAE normalised [ties with Israel], that restraint will be removed.”

Betrayal of India’s freedom struggle

Githa Hariharan, author of several books, including In Times of Siege and The Thousand Faces Of Night, told Al Jazeera that this kind of support for Israel has been building up over time with a common world view and agenda of both Zionism and Hindutva – the Hindu first.

“While the relations with Israel opened up before the BJP came to power, but it has become closer since then. Brand Israel seems to suit the powers that be in India at the moment,” said Hariharan, who is associated with the Palestinian Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) – a grassroots movement calling for a boycott of Israeli goods, divestment from Israeli firms operating in occupied territories and imposition of sanctions in order to pressure Israel to stop human rights abuses against Palestinians.

Hariharan sees it as a betrayal of how India’s freedom fighters of the past envisioned India would take its place in the world, maintaining an anti-colonial stance.

“India has somehow got into this matrix of Israel and the United States. There is a problem with the foreign policy. You cannot have a post-colonial country with a history of a freedom struggle like ours creating a foreign policy which actually works with occupiers, those who broke international law, those who commit crimes against humanity,” she said.
On Monday, academics, activists and writers, including Booker Prize-winning novelist Arundhati Roy, issued a statement in solidarity with Palestine.

“We stand with the Palestinians, stand with the right to a homeland, their right to return to their home, and their right to resist the occupation.

“Our reaction to the terrible violence against the Palestinians is shaped by our reading of the United Nations General Assembly resolution 1514 (1960), ‘The process of liberation is irresistible and irreversible and,… in order to avoid serious crises, an end must be put to colonialism and all practices of segregation and discrimination associated therewith.'”

India still backs the Palestinian cause at the UN
At the UN, New Delhi has largely continued with its decades-old policy on Palestine, backing the two-state solution and the maintenance of the status quo in occupied East Jerusalem.

On Sunday, India called for an immediate de-escalation of the Israeli-Palestinian situation and spoke against a unilateral change of the status quo, including in occupied East Jerusalem. The current protests started after Israel wanted to forcefully expel Palestinians from East Jerusalem’s Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood.

“I reiterate India’s strong support to the just Palestinian cause and its unwavering commitment to the two-state solution,” India’s permanent representative to the United Nations TS Tirumurti told a virtual United Nations Security Council meeting.

But the Indian stand at the UNSC came in for criticism from many government supporters with a Twitter user calling it “shameful diplomacy. Spineless act by our govt.”

Many others backed India’s position, saying diplomacy was the only option to solve the Israel-Palestine issue.

Senior Communist leader Sitaram Yechury said India’s official policy continues to support a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital and strict implementation of the UN resolutions on the occupation of Palestinian lands by Israel.

“This remains our official policy to date. This is the traditional time-tested, accepted foreign policy position of India. This cuts across all political parties in the past,” Yechury, General Secretary of the Communist Party of India (Marxist), told Al Jazeera.

Yechury however, accused the Indian government of “favouring the Israelis and not taking a balanced position”.

Despite repeated attempts, a BJP spokesperson could not be reached for comment.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...idarity-with-israel-as-gaza-bombing-continues

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

Because India Hindutva supporters think they and Israel have a common enemy which is Muslims. The way they act on social media is embarrassing especially after Netanyahu snubbed them in the tweet.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

“visceral hatred for Muslims and a bloodlust to see Muslims massacred and shown their place”.

This simple phrase sums up India.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Hindutva literature over the last century has been stridently anti-Muslim. This isn't so much a love of Israel or their Abrahamic faith, just a general joy at seeing Muslims being attacked.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Because India Hindutva supporters think they and Israel have a common enemy which is Muslims. The way they act on social media is embarrassing especially after Netanyahu snubbed them in the tweet.

What's even more embarrassing is their IT cell trolls asking for Shabash.

But one has to have some dignity to even realize that.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

The support is because in Hindutva the belief is that your religion, and language should originate in your country.

So even though Israel was created by European Jews, who looked European, spoke European languages, and had a European culture, they were the real natives of the land. Palestinians who would not be able to identify one ancestor who was not born in Palestine, were not natives they were foreign invaders who came from Arabia.

You can see this Hindutva logic in the subcontinent as well. They have Afghanistan in the maps of Akhand Bharat, yet Muslim Kings from that land are deemed foreign invaders as they adopted Islam as their religion and Persian as their language.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Hindutva clowns have historically been epitome of hypocrisy and contradictions.

They have historically expressed admiration for Hitler but are also somehow biggest supporters (without any acknowledgement) of Israel

They consider Afghanistan as part of Akhand Bharat but Afghans are invaders as well.

 

[in_cutter]

Thread title should include Hindu Extremists...

But yea..you can see the hate in their eyes. The way they lick Israeli boots is actually cringy & embarassing.

 

[Aviator]

Its not just Israel.. They will support anyone and everyone who's against Muslims. For example Armenia- Azerbaijan war, they were on Armenian side only because Azerbaijan is a Muslim majority country.
They celebrate muslim lynching as well.

 

[guna]

Hindu rightwing supporters think that the common enemy is Islam. They also relate Israel to India and Palestinians to Kashmiri separatists.

I have watched Christian channels and all of them support Israel. They do not even hide it.

Its only the secularists, Atheists and Muslims that are supporting Palestinians.

 

[Local.Dada]

Back in the day It was India which gave refuge to Parsis and Jews escaping from persecution.

In fact India was thanked in the first address in the Israeli parliament for being the only country to stand by the Jews.

Now the India they are taking about is ancient India so I am sure there were a lot of kings from the present day Pakistan played a role in helping them out. There are still synagogues/ Jewish temples in Kerala and Mumbai. I am sure there are some ruins of them in Karachi etc.

So now we have established the India-Israel historical connection, since Indias independence India has had scientific, economic and intelligence/ military ties with Israel.

In fact Mossad has helped India out with critical information many times.

On the other hand Palestine not counting the poor folk only earning a living, there is a lot of radicalism, suicide bombing and no real potential due to their upbringing which is probably based on religious education
And us vs them brainwash. Kind of like Kashmiris. I don’t know of any modern day Kashmiri from both India and Pak side who was born,raised and educated totally in Kashmir and went on to be a global icon (for the right reasons).

So due to all of the above, people don’t care for them and the reason due to why Indians have a soft spot for Israel.

I mean apart from a few Punjabis sharing common language and culture and cricket, rest of India probably respects Israel a lot more for what they are able to achieve, the help they have provided and the gratitude they have shown.

Also Indian Muslims are Indian Muslims. They are not Arabs or Palestinians.. yes there are a few anodlanjeevis (professional protestors) that’s about it. Rest don’t care.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Hindu rightwing supporters think that the common enemy is Islam. They also relate Israel to India and Palestinians to Kashmiri separatists.

I have watched Christian channels and all of them support Israel. They do not even hide it.

Its only the secularists, Atheists and Muslims that are supporting Palestinians.

Christians, especially evangelicals, support Israel due to religious reasons.

 

[LongHorn]

There is another group which blindly supports Israel on social media; Nigerian Christians

 

[street cricketer]

Its not just Israel.. They will support anyone and everyone who's against Muslims. For example Armenia- Azerbaijan war, they were on Armenian side only because Azerbaijan is a Muslim majority country.
They celebrate muslim lynching as well.

Hindutvadis support Israel because they perceive muslims to be a common enemy.

But not sure I agree with this analogy. Why do you think Pakistanis support Azerbaijan except for the fact that Azerbaijan is also a muslim country?

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

There is another group which blindly supports Israel on social media; Nigerian Christians

Because they believe that the land of Palestine was for Jews/Israelites

 

[GenericBrand]

But not sure I agree with this analogy. Why do you think Pakistanis support Azerbaijan except for the fact that Azerbaijan is also a muslim country?

Probably because Pakistan has strong relations with Turkey whom are against Armenia? Its not as simple as supporting them because they are Muslims.

 

[street cricketer]

Probably because Pakistan has strong relations with Turkey whom are against Armenia? Its not as simple as supporting them because they are Muslims.

Sure, it's not as simple. But ignoring the religious aspect in this equation is like ignoring the big elephant in the room.

 

[El Generico]

Hindutvadis support Israel because they perceive muslims to be a common enemy.

But not sure I agree with this analogy. Why do you think Pakistanis support Azerbaijan except for the fact that Azerbaijan is also a muslim country?

Even if that is true, it is nowhere near as bad as wanting people massacred because of their religion. If India was a Jewish country then no one would even question their support for Israel. Supporting someone because you share the same religion or nationality with them might seem shallow but at least it makes sense.

On the other hand, Indian trolls seem to be motivated solely by their hate for Muslims and would blindly support anyone killing Muslims.

 

[guna]

Christians, especially evangelicals, support Israel due to religious reasons.

Christians are united with Jews in this matter.

Jews do not trust Muslims as much as they trust Christians.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

I just find it funny how islamophobic the Indian right wing fascists are, but then they try to suck up to the Afghans on SM. They go from abusing our prophets to “bhai bhai” in a blink of an eye.

 

[guna]

Hindutva clowns have historically been epitome of hypocrisy and contradictions.

They have historically expressed admiration for Hitler but are also somehow biggest supporters (without any acknowledgement) of Israel

They consider Afghanistan as part of Akhand Bharat but Afghans are invaders as well.

Afghans became invaders after conversion to Islam. They were allies of Hindus from subcontinent when they were practicing Buddhism and Hinduism. All of the invasions started after Islam came into the picture.
Same goes for Persians and Central Asians too. There were no known invasions from Persian empire into Indian subcontinent . The Central Asians who invaded India during pre-islamic period have adopted local Hindu and Buddhist culture and became part of the society.

 

[street cricketer]

Even if that is true, it is nowhere near as bad as wanting people massacred because of their religion. If India was a Jewish country then no one would even question their support for Israel. Supporting someone because you share the same religion or nationality with them might seem shallow but at least it makes sense.

On the other hand, Indian trolls seem to be motivated solely by their hate for Muslims and would blindly support anyone killing Muslims.

I have zero time for hindutvadis or hindutva politics in India. I think it's the worst thing that has happened in India's history that's setting the country years back in terms of progressive secular politics, tolerance and societal harmony.

But I would not want a state blindly supporting another state just because of one factor just like I would not want it blindly hating another state because of a different factor. Blind chauvinism is as bad as blind hatred. Don't you think there are similarities in the arguments of Pakistanis hating on Armenia because they're the enemies of their friends Turkey and Indians hating on Palestine because they're the enemies of their friends Israel? Support should be rather based on who's morally right or wrong rather than shallow factors like religion, caste or nationality. Pakistanis are right in supporting the Palestinians because they're the aggrieved party, I'm not so sure about their stance in supporting Azerbaijan though.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Christians are united with Jews in this matter.

Jews do not trust Muslims as much as they trust Christians.

You do know that the Jews reject the state of Israel? It’s the Zionists that want Israel.

The Jews seemed to trust the Muslims during the Spanish Inquisition more than the Christians, which is why they decided to stick with the Muslims so they’d be protected.

 

[IAJ]

I heard somewhere yesterday that Netanyahu didn’t even thank India, while thanking many other countries for they support?

 

[Saj]

Simple reason - the common enemy, Islam.

We are living in a dangerous world at the moment and that danger is increasing given some of the regimes out there.

 

[El Generico]

I have zero time for hindutvadis or hindutva politics in India. I think it's the worst thing that has happened in India's history that's setting the country years back in terms of progressive secular politics, tolerance and societal harmony.

But I would not want a state blindly supporting another state just because of one factor just like I would not want it blindly hating another state because of a different factor. Blind chauvinism is as bad as blind hatred. Don't you think there are similarities in the arguments of Pakistanis hating on Armenia because they're the enemies of their friends Turkey and Indians hating on Palestine because they're the enemies of their friends Israel? Support should be rather based on who's morally right or wrong rather than shallow factors like religion, caste or nationality. Pakistanis are right in supporting the Palestinians because they're the aggrieved party, I'm not so sure about their stance in supporting Azerbaijan though.

Overall I get your point, but Pakistan’s support for Azerbaijan actually has a lot to do with historical ties between the two countries and Turkey. Not saying religion didn’t play a part but it was just one of the factor.

Anyways the difference between the two is Indian trolls didn’t want Palestinians dead because they love Israel, they wanted Palestinians dead because they are Muslim. Similarly Indians wanted Azerbaijan to lose because that is a Muslim county not because Armenia is their friend.

It would have been less weird if Indians were just supporting because Israel/Armenia was their friend but clearly that’s not the case. I doubt Indians would care if Israel attacked a Christian country.

 

[Local.Dada]

Simple reason - the common enemy, Islam.

We are living in a dangerous world at the moment and that danger is increasing given some of the regimes out there.

That’s a very generic reason.

Not my word but people in this very forum have said how they hate Hindutva or RSS but have no problem against the average Hindu. I would say that’s a fair point even though May be some of their assumptions might be stereotypical and wrong.

so why can’t there be an acknowledgement of the same when it is the opposite?

 

[Saj]

That’s a very generic reason.

Replace generic with accurate.

 

[CricLegend]

I see the following #India stands with Israel trending in India. After the disastrous handling of covid by their dictator Modi, Bharat is in limp mode and can't stand with the imperialist state - So Shut Up and Sit Down

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Back in the day It was India which gave refuge to Parsis and Jews escaping from persecution.

In fact India was thanked in the first address in the Israeli parliament for being the only country to stand by the Jews.

Now the India they are taking about is ancient India so I am sure there were a lot of kings from the present day Pakistan played a role in helping them out. There are still synagogues/ Jewish temples in Kerala and Mumbai. I am sure there are some ruins of them in Karachi etc.

So now we have established the India-Israel historical connection, since Indias independence India has had scientific, economic and intelligence/ military ties with Israel.

In fact Mossad has helped India out with critical information many times.

On the other hand Palestine not counting the poor folk only earning a living, there is a lot of radicalism, suicide bombing and no real potential due to their upbringing which is probably based on religious education
And us vs them brainwash. Kind of like Kashmiris. I don’t know of any modern day Kashmiri from both India and Pak side who was born,raised and educated totally in Kashmir and went on to be a global icon (for the right reasons).

So due to all of the above, people don’t care for them and the reason due to why Indians have a soft spot for Israel.

I mean apart from a few Punjabis sharing common language and culture and cricket, rest of India probably respects Israel a lot more for what they are able to achieve, the help they have provided and the gratitude they have shown.

Also Indian Muslims are Indian Muslims. They are not Arabs or Palestinians.. yes there are a few anodlanjeevis (professional protestors) that’s about it. Rest don’t care.

That’s a fictitious and overblown historical connection, that you have established in “your head”. This doesn’t change the fact that:

- India’s native jewish population (like cochin jews) etc has always been tiny. So much so that in modern day it never exceeded more than 10k individuals. Therefore if a few jewish families some hundred years ago found refuge in some Princely state of india, it doesn’t really make it a “Historical milestone”.
- India probably got favours from Mosad because of common enemy. Also there are not many countries in middle east (or even in the regions nearby). So israel would be engaging india to gain some sympathy.
- Israel is a re-seller of the US weapons and arms technology. So india is probably interested in a backdoor route to get the weapons they would like to acquire.

Therefore your theory of historical love between India and Israel is a flopped attempt at disguising the real reason, which is:

Hinduvita supporters in particular (and Indians in general) support Israel’s attractions against pales because they see a kind of “revenge against muslims” in all this.

Be man enough to admit the real and prevalent Islamophobia amongst your countrymen rather hiding behind these lame stories.

 

[Bewal Express]

Christians are united with Jews in this matter.

Jews do not trust Muslims as much as they trust Christians.

Didn't help in the 30s and 40s.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Afghans became invaders after conversion to Islam. They were allies of Hindus from subcontinent when they were practicing Buddhism and Hinduism. All of the invasions started after Islam came into the picture.
Same goes for Persians and Central Asians too. There were no known invasions from Persian empire into Indian subcontinent . The Central Asians who invaded India during pre-islamic period have adopted local Hindu and Buddhist culture and became part of the society.

So?

You can’t call a region part of Akhand Bharat but inhabitants from that area invaders too

 

[Bewal Express]

Hatred of Muslims by the Hindutuva and the Zionists is the only reason. The Jews have nothing in common with the Hindus other than their enmity to the Muslims..

 

[Giannis]

I have zero time for hindutvadis or hindutva politics in India. I think it's the worst thing that has happened in India's history that's setting the country years back in terms of progressive secular politics, tolerance and societal harmony.

But I would not want a state blindly supporting another state just because of one factor just like I would not want it blindly hating another state because of a different factor. Blind chauvinism is as bad as blind hatred. Don't you think there are similarities in the arguments of Pakistanis hating on Armenia because they're the enemies of their friends Turkey and Indians hating on Palestine because they're the enemies of their friends Israel? Support should be rather based on who's morally right or wrong rather than shallow factors like religion, caste or nationality. Pakistanis are right in supporting the Palestinians because they're the aggrieved party, I'm not so sure about their stance in supporting Azerbaijan though.

Hindutvadis support Israel because they perceive muslims to be a common enemy.

But not sure I agree with this analogy. Why do you think Pakistanis support Azerbaijan except for the fact that Azerbaijan is also a muslim country?

There's a big difference. India supports Israel and Armenia out of animosity for Muslims, it comes from a place of hatred while Pakistan supports Palestine and Azerbaijan out of a sense of brotherhood - one is a destructive sentiment the other is a constructive one. Humans have always been altruistic towards people if they feel a sense of community, India on the other hand has no business in either conflict and only partakes out of a sense of hatred for Muslims.

 

[junoon]

Didn't some hindus in UK decided to join the white-supremacist British Nationalist Party (BNP) because of hatred for British Pakistanis and other muslims?

 

[Balthazar]

Because of their inherent Islam hate and they see Palestinians as defenceless muslims and an opportunity to drive their propaganda and bigotry back in Hindustan.

 

[Wristy_Shuffler]

Unfortunately for both the Indian and Pakistani people, Israel has long ago recognised the friction between the countries and has since exploited it to further their own agenda. The support by random Indian's on twitter is just a result of small-minded individuals who are either too stupid to realise they are being manipulated or do realise but their mouth-foaming hatred for Pakistan/Islam has blunted their intellect with arrogance.

These are quotes from an article which I first found on here, many years ago but has stuck with me since -

David Ben Gurion's words, the first Israeli Prime Minister, as printed in the Jewish Chronicle, 9 August 1967:

The world Zionist movement should not be neglectful of the dangers of Pakistan to it. And Pakistan now should be its first target, for this ideological State is a threat to our existence. And Pakistan, the whole of it, hates the Jews and loves the Arabs.

"This lover of the Arabs is more dangerous to us than the Arabs themselves. For that matter, it is most essential for the world Zionism that it should now take immediate steps against Pakistan.

"Whereas the inhabitants of the Indian peninsula are Hindus whose hearts have been full of hatred towards Muslims, therefore, India is the most important base for us to work there from against Pakistan.

"It is essential that we exploit this base and strike and crush Pakistanis, enemies of Jews and Zionism, by all disguised and secret plans."

And this quote from an article exploring the ties between raw-mossad:

Janes information group, the world's foremost source on intelligence information, reported in July 2001 that "The Indian spy agency RAW and the Israeli spy agency Mossad have created four new agencies to infiltrate Pakistan to target important religious and military personalities, journalists, judges, lawyers and bureaucrats. In addition, bombs would be exploded in trains, railway stations, bridges, bus stations, cinemas, hotels and mosques of rival Islamic sects to incite sectarianism."

The original thread where I read this is from 2005 and it was posted by a brilliant member of PP called DM, not sure if still active or lurks this was as he/she stated a chilling read considering the events that transpired in the coming years - Link here: http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...sharaf-hits-new-low-makes-friends-with-Israel!

Back in the day It was India which gave refuge to Parsis and Jews escaping from persecution.

In fact India was thanked in the first address in the Israeli parliament for being the only country to stand by the Jews.

Now the India they are taking about is ancient India so I am sure there were a lot of kings from the present day Pakistan played a role in helping them out. There are still synagogues/ Jewish temples in Kerala and Mumbai. I am sure there are some ruins of them in Karachi etc.

So now we have established the India-Israel historical connection, since Indias independence India has had scientific, economic and intelligence/ military ties with Israel.

In fact Mossad has helped India out with critical information many times.

On the other hand Palestine not counting the poor folk only earning a living, there is a lot of radicalism, suicide bombing and no real potential due to their upbringing which is probably based on religious education
And us vs them brainwash. Kind of like Kashmiris. I don’t know of any modern day Kashmiri from both India and Pak side who was born,raised and educated totally in Kashmir and went on to be a global icon (for the right reasons).

So due to all of the above, people don’t care for them and the reason due to why Indians have a soft spot for Israel.

I mean apart from a few Punjabis sharing common language and culture and cricket, rest of India probably respects Israel a lot more for what they are able to achieve, the help they have provided and the gratitude they have shown.

Also Indian Muslims are Indian Muslims. They are not Arabs or Palestinians.. yes there are a few anodlanjeevis (professional protestors) that’s about it. Rest don’t care.

I do not know if you truly believe this or keep stating this to irriate people on this forum but in any case I feel the need to correct you and if it is a deliberate action to instigate a repone then consider yourself successful.

The narrative you paint on Palestinians is deeply offensive. They are not radicals or suicide bombers and their intellect is not inferior to anyone's no matter what their up-bringing. Palestinians (of all faiths) are currently under seige and have no freedom of movement, don't have access to water and a majoirity of the children express no joy in living. We are currently way past the point where an entire generation has been living under constant conflict and you don't need to look too far to see even what a fraction of that kind of trauma can do to inviduals living in affluent parts of the world. Have some empathy before you collectively insult 5 million people (more really as you sound like you have a problem with all muslims).

 

[OMB]

This simple phrase sums up India.

this is a generalization. Social media trolls don't define any country (India included).

 

[OMB]

Israel has faced global condemnation for its actions in occupied East Jerusalem and continued bombing of the Gaza Strip, but it has found support in India where pro-government activists have thrown their weight behind Israel, with some defending its policy against Palestinians.

Hashtags such as #ISupportIsrael, #IndiaWithIsrael, #IndiaStandsWithIsrael and #IsrealUnderFire have trended on Indian social media over the past week, many calling Palestinians “terrorists” – a term used by Israel for Palestinian resistance groups. On Saturday night, #PalestineTerrorists was one of the top trends on Twitter in the South Asian nation.

West Bank, Israeli forces have killed at least 19 Palestinians protesting against the forced expulsion of Palestinian families from their homes.

At least 10 Israelis have also been killed in rockets fired by Hamas fighters from Gaza.

Support for Israel has been amplified on social media, particularly Twitter and Instagram, by top members of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), lawyers and journalists among others.

On May 12, BJP Member of Parliament Tejasvi Surya, known for his anti-Muslim rhetoric, wrote on twitter: “We are with you. Stay strong, Israel.”

His tweet, in response to a post by Israel’s foreign ministry, was liked nearly 50,000 times and retweeted nearly 13,000 times.

‘Visceral hatred for Muslims’
BJP spokesman from the northern Indian city of Chandigarh, Gaurav Goel, has been regularly tweeting in support of Israel. On Friday he tweeted a picture of Israeli forces, writing: “Dear Israelis, you are not alone, we Indians stand strongly with you.” It was liked 3,600 times.

Hardik Bhavsar, a Twitter user followed by 134,000 people including Prime Minister Modi and Home Minister Shah, on Saturday shared a video of a high-rise tower that hosted media offices, including Al Jazeera and Associated Press, destroyed in Israeli bombardment.

“Happy Dipawali liberals. #IndiaStandWithIsrael,” he tweeted mocking liberal Indians who oppose Israeli militarism, referring to Dipawali, the Hindu festival of lights. It was liked nearly 3,000 times.

I reiterate India’s strong support to the just Palestinian cause and its unwavering commitment to the two-state solution.

Indian journalist and writer Rana Ayyub on Sunday wrote that while checking most of the #IndiaStandWithIsrael tweet handles, a common thread that runs through is a “visceral hatred for Muslims and a bloodlust to see Muslims massacred and shown their place”.

“Most handles [are] followed by one or more BJP minister or the PM himself,” she added.

At least 212 Palestinians, including 61 children, have been killed and more than 1,000 others wounded in one week of intense Israeli air attacks in besieged Gaza [File: Mohammed Salem/Reuters]
Srinivas Kodali, a writer and researcher working on data, governance and internet, told Al Jazeera there is a section of polarised Hindutva (Hindu-ness) groups who support Israel’s actions against Palestine purely because Muslims are being persecuted.
“It is their hate towards Muslims that is making them cheer Israel’s actions,” he said.

India’s historic support of Palestine

India has historically supported Palestinian self-determination as part of its anti-colonial solidarity following its independence from British rule in 1947.

The country was the first non-Arab country to recognise the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) as “the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people”. A PLO office was set up in New Delhi in 1975.

India issued a commemorative postage stamp on November 29, 1981, to mark the international day of solidarity with the Palestinian people.

The evolution of India’s Palestine policy goes back to pre-independence days when Indian nationalists looked upon Palestinians as fellow “brothers-in-bondage”.

India’s freedom fighter Mahatma Gandhi famously said in 1938, “Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French.”

The South Asian nation recognised Israel in 1950 but established diplomatic relations only in 1992. Since then, ties have grown by leaps and bounds, with defence becoming their main pillar. India is currently Israel’s biggest defence buyer, accounting for 46 percent of Israel’s arms exports.

India and Israel’s ties have strengthened significantly in recent decades, especially under Prime Minister Modi and his Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu. In July 2017, Modi, who counts Netanyahu among his “friends”, became the first-ever Indian prime minister to visit Israel.

“India’s policy [towards Israel] shifted in 1991. It had to do with the eagerness to be a subordinate ally of the US,” said Vijay Parshad, editor of Letters to Palestine: Writers Respond to War and Occupation.

Parshad said while the Indian ruling class – wider than the BJP – supports Israel, the general sentiment is not so clear. “India’s close ties with the Gulf prevent a Brazil-style pivot. However, as the UAE normalised [ties with Israel], that restraint will be removed.”

Betrayal of India’s freedom struggle

Githa Hariharan, author of several books, including In Times of Siege and The Thousand Faces Of Night, told Al Jazeera that this kind of support for Israel has been building up over time with a common world view and agenda of both Zionism and Hindutva – the Hindu first.

“While the relations with Israel opened up before the BJP came to power, but it has become closer since then. Brand Israel seems to suit the powers that be in India at the moment,” said Hariharan, who is associated with the Palestinian Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) – a grassroots movement calling for a boycott of Israeli goods, divestment from Israeli firms operating in occupied territories and imposition of sanctions in order to pressure Israel to stop human rights abuses against Palestinians.

Hariharan sees it as a betrayal of how India’s freedom fighters of the past envisioned India would take its place in the world, maintaining an anti-colonial stance.

“India has somehow got into this matrix of Israel and the United States. There is a problem with the foreign policy. You cannot have a post-colonial country with a history of a freedom struggle like ours creating a foreign policy which actually works with occupiers, those who broke international law, those who commit crimes against humanity,” she said.
On Monday, academics, activists and writers, including Booker Prize-winning novelist Arundhati Roy, issued a statement in solidarity with Palestine.

“We stand with the Palestinians, stand with the right to a homeland, their right to return to their home, and their right to resist the occupation.

“Our reaction to the terrible violence against the Palestinians is shaped by our reading of the United Nations General Assembly resolution 1514 (1960), ‘The process of liberation is irresistible and irreversible and,… in order to avoid serious crises, an end must be put to colonialism and all practices of segregation and discrimination associated therewith.'”

India still backs the Palestinian cause at the UN
At the UN, New Delhi has largely continued with its decades-old policy on Palestine, backing the two-state solution and the maintenance of the status quo in occupied East Jerusalem.

On Sunday, India called for an immediate de-escalation of the Israeli-Palestinian situation and spoke against a unilateral change of the status quo, including in occupied East Jerusalem. The current protests started after Israel wanted to forcefully expel Palestinians from East Jerusalem’s Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood.

“I reiterate India’s strong support to the just Palestinian cause and its unwavering commitment to the two-state solution,” India’s permanent representative to the United Nations TS Tirumurti told a virtual United Nations Security Council meeting.

But the Indian stand at the UNSC came in for criticism from many government supporters with a Twitter user calling it “shameful diplomacy. Spineless act by our govt.”

Many others backed India’s position, saying diplomacy was the only option to solve the Israel-Palestine issue.

Senior Communist leader Sitaram Yechury said India’s official policy continues to support a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital and strict implementation of the UN resolutions on the occupation of Palestinian lands by Israel.

“This remains our official policy to date. This is the traditional time-tested, accepted foreign policy position of India. This cuts across all political parties in the past,” Yechury, General Secretary of the Communist Party of India (Marxist), told Al Jazeera.

Yechury however, accused the Indian government of “favouring the Israelis and not taking a balanced position”.

Despite repeated attempts, a BJP spokesperson could not be reached for comment.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...idarity-with-israel-as-gaza-bombing-continues

only thing to take way is this --> Indian support for Palestine. Rest of the social media posts in the article are all hate messages and are one sided view.
I am aware that there are so many positive messages which never get quoted. I am not going to be part of polarising brigade.

 

[guna]

Didn't help in the 30s and 40s.

Christians have moved on from their Crusader mentality and Jew hatred. They and Jews are good friends now.

 

[Bewal Express]

Christians have moved on from their Crusader mentality and Jew hatred. They and Jews are good friends now.

Until there is another economic crisis and then the Jews will be hated once again. The under current hasn't gone anywhere, just the PR is better.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Christians have moved on from their Crusader mentality and Jew hatred. They and Jews are good friends now.

Still there is no natural love or affinity between Jews and Hindus. Jews look down on idol worship like followers of all other Abrahamic religions.

The concept of santan dharma is very different from the other major religions of the world and due to India not being in close proximity to middle east and other Western countries, most people dont know too much about hinduism other than what they see on media like:
Cow, Snake, Monkey and Elephant being some kind holy figures, Rituals like Holi, Chitta burnings and festivals in Gunga ghatts, Baba ram yadav etc

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I just find it funny how islamophobic the Indian right wing fascists are, but then they try to suck up to the Afghans on SM. They go from abusing our prophets to “bhai bhai��������” in a blink of an eye.

Social media warriors aren't stupid, they avoid any Akhand Bharat religious preaching when engaging Afghans, because Afghanistan is actually more outwardly religious than Pakistan. You can see this just by looking at dress and mannerisms of refugees who arrive in Europe from Afghanistan. They are far more conservative than Pakistanis.

Indian official support of Afghanistan is aimed more at destabilising Pakistan rather than any affinity for Afghans themselves. So internet warriors save all their anti-islam stuff for Pakistani sites as they aren't interested in good relations with Pakistan anyway. If Pakistan wasn't there, Afghans would be getting the same hindutva drivel.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Gonna copy a post by Darshan Mondkar.

This is the answer.

Saw a couple of posts questioning how can some people (Indians) support the Nazi's and the Jews (read Israel) at the same time, calling such people complicated personalities. (Given that those are two absolutely opposite sides etched in history)

But come to think of it, these are not really complicated people at all.

These are the people who love being on the side of the Oppressor, irrespective of who the oppressor is.

It, perhaps, gives their inferiority complex a sense of achievement that leeches on the flexing of muscles, by the mighty against the weak.

It gives them a unique happiness in the distress of others, what I call as "Asuri Anand".

If you go back in History, you will see this mindset fostering on the sidelines of humanity every time.

When the Mughals had invaded India, these people joined hands with them and fought against those residents who resisted. The Armies of the Mughals were not all Muslims, you know?

When the British came steamrolling across India, these people sought employment under the Queen.

The officers might have been British, but the hands that shot the bullets at innocent people were not all
British, you know?

It was in their interest to cozy up to the oppressor and the harassment that they meted out to the weak couldn't have been merely "following orders".

Take up the incidents closer to today.

During demonetization, it was never about black money for these people ... "Ab uska black money pakda jaayega", that was their sole point of contention, the doom of others.

They didn't even care much about the pandemic taking lives in the first wave. It was the poor people dying. While these people, even in lockdowns were posting pics on Instagram of how they were partying on their terraces.

When the migrant workers walked back, they didn't care. Infact they were busy hailing the Oppressors of what a fabulous job they were doing.

Asuri Anand, pure and simple.

They have always cheered for the Oppressor till the point it starts affecting them personally....
And that's what's happening now.

The pandemic has hit home. Their own are dying now. They are running for aid along with everyone else. Suddenly they are experiencing what it feels like to be helpless, like the oppressed are, who they were jeering at not that long ago.

But trust me, the moment they feel they are safe, they will be back to supporting the oppressor, whoever it will be at that time and laughing at other people's miseries. That's how their psyche is built.

If these people ever witnessed a fight between Jack and the Giant, they would have cheered the Giant as he kicks Jack's butt. Till Jack takes him down ...

And that's when they will start sending out those messages of "But lets be positive".....

Disclaimer: Taking pleasure in the plight of others leaves you completely incompetent to deal with the same plight when it befalls you. Incompetent and Alone.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Gonna copy a post by Darshan Mondkar.

This is the answer.

Saw a couple of posts questioning how can some people (Indians) support the Nazi's and the Jews (read Israel) at the same time, calling such people complicated personalities. (Given that those are two absolutely opposite sides etched in history)

But come to think of it, these are not really complicated people at all.

These are the people who love being on the side of the Oppressor, irrespective of who the oppressor is.

It, perhaps, gives their inferiority complex a sense of achievement that leeches on the flexing of muscles, by the mighty against the weak.

It gives them a unique happiness in the distress of others, what I call as "Asuri Anand".

If you go back in History, you will see this mindset fostering on the sidelines of humanity every time.

When the Mughals had invaded India, these people joined hands with them and fought against those residents who resisted. The Armies of the Mughals were not all Muslims, you know?

When the British came steamrolling across India, these people sought employment under the Queen.

The officers might have been British, but the hands that shot the bullets at innocent people were not all
British, you know?

It was in their interest to cozy up to the oppressor and the harassment that they meted out to the weak couldn't have been merely "following orders".

Take up the incidents closer to today.

During demonetization, it was never about black money for these people ... "Ab uska black money pakda jaayega", that was their sole point of contention, the doom of others.

They didn't even care much about the pandemic taking lives in the first wave. It was the poor people dying. While these people, even in lockdowns were posting pics on Instagram of how they were partying on their terraces.

When the migrant workers walked back, they didn't care. Infact they were busy hailing the Oppressors of what a fabulous job they were doing.

Asuri Anand, pure and simple.

They have always cheered for the Oppressor till the point it starts affecting them personally....
And that's what's happening now.

The pandemic has hit home. Their own are dying now. They are running for aid along with everyone else. Suddenly they are experiencing what it feels like to be helpless, like the oppressed are, who they were jeering at not that long ago.

But trust me, the moment they feel they are safe, they will be back to supporting the oppressor, whoever it will be at that time and laughing at other people's miseries. That's how their psyche is built.

If these people ever witnessed a fight between Jack and the Giant, they would have cheered the Giant as he kicks Jack's butt. Till Jack takes him down ...

And that's when they will start sending out those messages of "But lets be positive".....

Disclaimer: Taking pleasure in the plight of others leaves you completely incompetent to deal with the same plight when it befalls you. Incompetent and Alone.

Asuri (Asuri) meaning in English (इंग्लिश मे मीनिंग) is THE DEMON DRINK (asuri ka matlab english me THE DEMON DRINK hai)

Anand (pronounced [aːˈnənd̪]) is a name of Indian origin, derived from the Sanskrit abstract noun आनन्द (ānand), which means happiness or joy.


These people get perverted pleasure from of suffering of others.

 

[Jadz]

Hatred of Muslims by the Hindutuva and the Zionists is the only reason. The Jews have nothing in common with the Hindus other than their enmity to the Muslims..

Nothing new under the Sun. The idolaters of Mecca - the pagan Quraysh - allied themselves with Jews in order to kill the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), Muslims and, thereby, utterly destroy Islam. The fact that they failed dismally - and have been failing ever since - provides glimpses into the power of Allah SwT and His intention to ensure His Final Message to humankind remains intact.

So the alliance between Hindu extremists and Zionist extremists is simply history repeating itself. And, the same could be said of Evangelicals - Christian extremists - and their alliance with their Zionist counterparts, in fact this has also been narrated in the Qur'an (alliances between Christians and Jews employed to threaten, kill and destroy Muslims/Islam).

 

[cric_man]

Hindutvadis support Israel because they perceive muslims to be a common enemy.

But not sure I agree with this analogy. Why do you think Pakistanis support Azerbaijan except for the fact that Azerbaijan is also a muslim country?

Reason for Pakistani support for Azeris is because we relate to them not only on religious ground but also because of Armenia illegally occupying Nigorno Karabakh. Armenia, along with Israel are the 2 states Pakistan does not recognize. There are 5-6 other predominantly muslim central asian states with whome we have somewhat cool relations. Tajikistan is almost hostile to Pakistan due to close relations with Afghan Northern Alliance factions.

 

[El Generico]

An amusing thing I noticed with RSS type Israeli supporters is that they keep insisting that their government/army treat Pakistan like Israel does Palestine. Lol it makes me wonder how these guys get so brainwashed?

Is it due to propaganda/Bollywood or does the Indian education system lead these guys to believe that a nuclear power like Pakistan is the same thing as a makeshift militant group like Hamas.

I think most tribal Pakistani villagers likely have better weaponry than Hamas does.

 

[PakLFC]

Coz Hindutva still can't get over the breaking up of India by Muslim's. To them Muslim's are always wrong by default even if they know nothing about the situation. Like their Israeli counterparts they believe in establishing a pure race in both parts of the world so naturally will side with their Zionist brethren. In Hindutva we are talking about a group of people so full of hatred that they did not even spare the founding father of their own country who shared their faith but not philosophy. These people would support the devil against the Muslim's.

 

[PakLFC]

What Indian's and genuine Hindu's need to understand is that the Hindutva will burn India inciting civil war much before they can inflict any damage on Pakistan. The Pak military are a professional outfit who have proved their mettle. These ignorant Hindutva fools think in any war our military will be fighting with bows and arrows.

 

[cricketjoshila]

May be because Israel helped India militarily in atleast 2 wars. In one case, they even supplied India from their own reserves. A friendly country needs to be supported.

Or may be because Hamas killed an Indian too.



And AL Jazeera was sleeping when various countries including US, supoorted Israel's right to defend itself.

Have influential Muslim countries like UAE or Saudi said anything?

 

[PakLFC]

May be because Israel helped India militarily in atleast 2 wars. In one case, they even supplied India from their own reserves. A friendly country needs to be supported.

Or may be because Hamas killed an Indian too.



And AL Jazeera was sleeping when various countries including US, supoorted Israel's right to defend itself.

Have influential Muslim countries like UAE or Saudi said anything?

I see. What war's were they when the Zionists supported India?

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

May be because Israel helped India militarily in atleast 2 wars. In one case, they even supplied India from their own reserves. A friendly country needs to be supported.

Or may be because Hamas killed an Indian too.



And AL Jazeera was sleeping when various countries including US, supoorted Israel's right to defend itself.

Have influential Muslim countries like UAE or Saudi said anything?

So what abt the moral stance and any sign of conscience?

Can’t normal indians relate to the suffering of those who are openly suppressed?

Or is it so, that the hate (based on religious bias) and the material interest are the only things that matter.

 

[street cricketer]

Reason for Pakistani support for Azeris is because we relate to them not only on religious ground but also because of Armenia illegally occupying Nigorno Karabakh. Armenia, along with Israel are the 2 states Pakistan does not recognize. There are 5-6 other predominantly muslim central asian states with whome we have somewhat cool relations. Tajikistan is almost hostile to Pakistan due to close relations with Afghan Northern Alliance factions.

What do the people actually living in Nagorno Karabakh want? Forget about the "legal" documents. Legally, India has a right to own Kashmir, but I'm not sure the Kashmiri muslims of the valley like being under the administration of the Indian state. The desire of the people living in a region matters far more than any legal documents signed by rulers or people not connected to them. I don't see the similarities with the Palestinian situation here. If it's there, please educate me on this.

 

[IAJ]

What do the people actually living in Nagorno Karabakh want? Forget about the "legal" documents. Legally, India has a right to own Kashmir, but I'm not sure the Kashmiri muslims of the valley like being under the administration of the Indian state. The desire of the people living in a region matters far more than any legal documents signed by rulers or people not connected to them. I don't see the similarities with the Palestinian situation here. If it's there, please educate me on this.

Let's assume for a moment that whole of West-Bank or Gaza for that matters all of the sudden becomes home to Israeli settlers and they have ousted all Palestinians. So now both places have only Israeli settlers and according to your theory they should keep it since it will be their desire to live there right?

 

[street cricketer]

Let's assume for a moment that whole of West-Bank or Gaza for that matters all of the sudden becomes home to Israeli settlers and they have ousted all Palestinians. So now both places have only Israeli settlers and according to your theory they should keep it since it will be their desire to live there right?

That's a silly analogy. When Palestinians are getting ousted from their lands, that would be the primary crime as the sentiments of the people living there are disrespected by displacing them forcefully. Why would I say the sentiments of the Israeli majority matter when they became the majority by forcefully displacing the population already living there, ironically via legal routes as the British got the lands from the Ottomans and gave it to the Israelis.

Or do you for some reason believe that the Armenians living in Nagorno Karabakh/Artsakh aren't indigenous to the region?

 

[IAJ]

That's a silly analogy. When Palestinians are getting ousted from their lands, that would be the primary crime as the sentiments of the people living there are disrespected by displacing them forcefully. Why would I say the sentiments of the Israeli majority matter when they became the majority by forcefully displacing the population already living there, ironically via legal routes as the British got the lands from the Ottomans and gave it to the Israelis.

Or do you for some reason believe that the Armenians living in Nagorno Karabakh/Artsakh aren't indigenous to the region?

Lol, yoy are calling it a silly analogy. And you are bringing in Armenia which I haven't even mentioned. I just challenged your theory which has clear flaws and you have in fact accepted that with your post when you now have put some criterias. The desire of people can't alway trump the legal status, if that is the case every Tom Dick and Harry can take a piece ofland and desire it to be theirs since their forefathers lived there some milleniums ago.

 

[street cricketer]

Lol, yoy are calling it a silly analogy. And you are bringing in Armenia which I haven't even mentioned. I just challenged your theory which has clear flaws and you have in fact accepted that with your post when you now have put some criterias. The desire of people can't alway trump the legal status, if that is the case every Tom Dick and Harry can take a piece ofland and desire it to be theirs since their forefathers lived there some milleniums ago.

Not sure why it's difficult to understand. Palestinians were originally living in what is Israel now in the past a century earlier. So when the Israelis displaced the Palestinians with the help of the British, it means that the original population living there have already been wronged. The desire of the people living there a century earlier, i.e., the Palestinians was not to displace them from their homes and make them a minority in their own land. Yet, the British allowed immigration of Jews from all over the world to Israel displacing the Palestinians from their own lands through "legal means" as they held ownership to the region by defeating the Ottomans.

Now tell me, do you still think "legal status" trumps over the desire of the people living there?

 

[IAJ]

Not sure why it's difficult to understand. Palestinians were originally living in what is Israel now in the past a century earlier. So when the Israelis displaced the Palestinians with the help of the British, it means that the original population living there have already been wronged. The desire of the people living there a century earlier, i.e., the Palestinians was not to displace them from their homes and make them a minority in their own land. Yet, the British allowed immigration of Jews from all over the world to Israel displacing the Palestinians from their own lands through "legal means" as they held ownership to the region by defeating the Ottomans.

Now tell me, do you still think "legal status" trumps over the desire of the people living there?

I have no difficulties to understand this at all and my stance on the Palestinians are very clear. But it's your anology which is shaky. I want the Palestinians to stay in Jerusalem and West-Bank as whole.

But then you have jews who say that the promised land belong to them and they were forced out from the area, and now they want it back. So again, the desire of people come in to play and would you now say that the jews should live there and Palestinians should leave? Or in other case the Palestinians should live there and the jews should go, but then again that will contradict your original statement.

So what I am merely saying is that people's desire is 'valid' in some cases, but that can't be applied in every single case. Have a nice day

 

[Lonewarrior]

 

[hitthestump]

The idea of an ethnostate really turns these fools on. They are in awe of what Israel have achieved for the Jews while they have incredibly warped views on what a Hindu Rashta looks like.

Honestly right now i don't know how you can be Indian and not be deeply ashamed of where your country is heading. How ordinary Hindus aren't rioting in the streets given the direction the nation is heading in i really can't fathom. I wouldn't be waiting for an election if i was them.

 

[mastimasti]

The idea of an ethnostate really turns these fools on. They are in awe of what Israel have achieved for the Jews while they have incredibly warped views on what a Hindu Rashta looks like.

Honestly right now i don't know how you can be Indian and not be deeply ashamed of where your country is heading. How ordinary Hindus aren't rioting in the streets given the direction the nation is heading in i really can't fathom. I wouldn't be waiting for an election if i was them.

I am deeply ashamed but let me tell you, we are in the minority. The Majority of Indians want ethnic cleansing.

 

[cric_man]

May be because Israel helped India militarily in atleast 2 wars. In one case, they even supplied India from their own reserves. A friendly country needs to be supported.

Or may be because Hamas killed an Indian too.



And AL Jazeera was sleeping when various countries including US, supoorted Israel's right to defend itself.

Have influential Muslim countries like UAE or Saudi said anything?

Or maybe it is just because of their pure hatred for Islam?

 

[hitthestump]

Or maybe it is just because of their pure hatred for Islam?

I don't think this language is accurate. Hindutva don't differentiate between those who are devout or non-practising. They also know nothing about Islam to hate it whilst disregarding so many of their own teachings.

What we are seeing in India has a far better resemblence to Nazi Germany than a theological war. Therefore it is more accurate to say it is the hatred for Muslims rather than Islam that is motivating the average Indian fool today.

 

[Saj]

I was chatting with a guy from Mumbai the other day.

For some reason he thought I was Indian. He was basically saying that it's great that Israel is taking the action it is against the Palestinians as countries like India and Israel need to ensure that Muslims are put in their place.

His words were incredible really and what made it worse was when he said that many in India share is views.

 

[kabbirann]

They can support whosoever they like,I just wish they wouldn't be so embarrassingly OTT about it.

Sanghi's are like the darker version of Qabacha- one of the iconic characters in old Pakistani drama, Tanhaiyan.

 

[Zaz]

Have any bollywood celebs tweeted or posted in favour of palestinians on their social media accts?

 

[MP2011]

Have any bollywood celebs tweeted or posted in favour of palestinians on their social media accts?

Most of them are hypocrites anyways so don't bother about them.

 

[MP2011]

They can support whosoever they like,I just wish they wouldn't be so embarrassingly OTT about it.

Sanghi's are like the darker version of Qabacha- one of the iconic characters in old Pakistani drama, Tanhaiyan.

People in my neighborhood are sharing videos of Israeli missiles ravaging Palestine with such glee that for once you'll think it's Indian missiles which are hitting their targets with precision.

 

[MP2011]

I was chatting with a guy from Mumbai the other day.

For some reason he thought I was Indian. He was basically saying that it's great that Israel is taking the action it is against the Palestinians as countries like India and Israel need to ensure that Muslims are put in their place.

His words were incredible really and what made it worse was when he said that many in India share is views.

Sadly, it's not just many. It's in millions. Bigotry has deeply infiltrated our rank and file from every nook and corner.

 

[Local.Dada]

Have any bollywood celebs tweeted or posted in favour of palestinians on their social media accts?

Why should they?

In fact Jews own most of the world media and entertainment.

In fact most people who have a proper job won’t get involved in these things. Most corporations have a strict social media policy about making political posts.

It’s only the jobless folk with no prospects who get excited either ways about this conflict which doesn’t impact them.

Charity and help can be done outside of SM. I am sure there are some young Islamic soldiers moved by the cause out there who want to drop out of school and fight against Israel even from the most obscure of Islamic countries. While the popular nomenclature for them would be terrorists, at least I guess they are doing something about it.

Rest don’t matter and no one needs to lose sleep over who said what on social media.

 

[guna]

Hindutva Modi Government is playing both sides of the court in Israel-Palestine conflict.

 

[Local.Dada]

Hindutva Modi Government is playing both sides of the court in Israel-Palestine conflict.

That is because getting emotional on this either ways will only cause them more headaches. As our great PM Narsimha Rao used to say, Sometimes silence and no decision is best decision.

 

[guna]

That is because getting emotional on this either ways will only cause them more headaches. As our great PM Narsimha Rao used to say, Sometimes silence and no decision is best decision.

I agree with that. India has been following this non-alignment policy for decades now. They never clearly choose any sides. They stay quiet or make positive statements about both sides keeping both the sides mildly happy and guessing.

 

[Civil]

During the Armenia Azerbaijan conflict, there was similar ardent support by the 'internet Hindus' for the Armenian side.

The tweets following that building's destruction in Gaza were pretty shameful. Why do you need have these over the top celebrations for innocent people's deaths half a world away. Some of those in the building may have even expressed love for India at some point in their life given historic ties. How sad must these internet warriors life be to stoop so low.

 

[El Generico]

Why should they?

In fact Jews own most of the world media and entertainment.

In fact most people who have a proper job won’t get involved in these things. Most corporations have a strict social media policy about making political posts.

It’s only the jobless folk with no prospects who get excited either ways about this conflict which doesn’t impact them.

Charity and help can be done outside of SM. I am sure there are some young Islamic soldiers moved by the cause out there who want to drop out of school and fight against Israel even from the most obscure of Islamic countries. While the popular nomenclature for them would be terrorists, at least I guess they are doing something about it.

Rest don’t matter and no one needs to lose sleep over who said what on social media.

TIL that some of the top actors, athletes and singers around the world are actually jobless. Can someone on this forum please hookup poor guys like Paul Pogba and Mark Ruffalo with a job?

In fact Jews own most of the world media and entertainment.

This is a pretty anti-Semitic thing to say, you are making it seems like all Jews support a Israel. Some of Israel’s most prominent critics are Jewish.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Hindutva and Zionists are only similar in occupation, hate & cowardly attacks.

Zionists have real support with Europe, USA as Jewish and Christian Zionist have joined forces.

Hindutva's have no real support & are only being used by other nations.

Israelis see all Indians are lesser people, yet some Indians have love for the Zionists.

Netanyahu's twitter account thanked numerous nations but didnt include India, yet some of these Hindutva extremists fools will contiue to worship them.

 

[Zaz]

Why should they?

In fact Jews own most of the world media and entertainment.

In fact most people who have a proper job won’t get involved in these things. Most corporations have a strict social media policy about making political posts.

It’s only the jobless folk with no prospects who get excited either ways about this conflict which doesn’t impact them.

I disagree Millions of people with jobs better than some have spoken up Its called humanity n having a conscience which seems to be lacking in certain quarters of the world

How people on the outside can celebrate little children dying is beyond most normal peoples capacity

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Why should they?

In fact Jews own most of the world media and entertainment.

In fact most people who have a proper job won’t get involved in these things. Most corporations have a strict social media policy about making political posts.

It’s only the jobless folk with no prospects who get excited either ways about this conflict which doesn’t impact them.

Charity and help can be done outside of SM. I am sure there are some young Islamic soldiers moved by the cause out there who want to drop out of school and fight against Israel even from the most obscure of Islamic countries. While the popular nomenclature for them would be terrorists, at least I guess they are doing something about it.

Rest don’t matter and no one needs to lose sleep over who said what on social media.

What a dumb logic that only if those who “don’t have a job” have a view or stance over the atrocities and injustice.

You mentioned that you ve a job, so why do you have an opinion or time to post abt Indian related discussions on this very forum? Or is it so, that you only take a stance when it suits your Hinduvita mindset.

You and other indian hate mongers can call Palestinians Terrorists for being killed in a freedom fight but that doesn’t change anything. It only reveals the true face of hateful Hindu goons. Any objectively thinking sane person will be able judge it for what it is.

This is only portraying a negative image of India and hindus (like in that TRT news video).

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Hindutva and Zionists are only similar in occupation, hate & cowardly attacks.

Zionists have real support with Europe, USA as Jewish and Christian Zionist have joined forces.

Hindutva's have no real support & are only being used by other nations.

Israelis see all Indians are lesser people, yet some Indians have love for the Zionists.

Netanyahu's twitter account thanked numerous nations but didnt include India, yet some of these Hindutva extremists fools will contiue to worship them.

Seriously, after seeing the mental calibre of Hinduvita cadets (in the vdo below), who will want to engage with them?

Here just an example from a western media:
https://youtu.be/ZzDLg5jTx78