Why Indian Hindutva supporters back Israel on Gaza bombing

[cricketjoshila]

So what abt the moral stance and any sign of conscience?

Can’t normal indians relate to the suffering of those who are openly suppressed?

Or is it so, that the hate (based on religious bias) and the material interest are the only things that matter.

National interests of a billion people trumps anything else.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The idea of an ethnostate really turns these fools on. They are in awe of what Israel have achieved for the Jews while they have incredibly warped views on what a Hindu Rashta looks like.

Honestly right now i don't know how you can be Indian and not be deeply ashamed of where your country is heading. How ordinary Hindus aren't rioting in the streets given the direction the nation is heading in i really can't fathom. I wouldn't be waiting for an election if i was them.

Honestly if we wanted to run our country on the basis of Pakistani opinion, we wouldn't have agreed for a partition. Thank god for the partition that we dont have people like you who think rioting is the way out if i dont agree with the elected government.

And who told you that the ordinary Indian has a problem with the way the country is being governed?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Have any bollywood celebs tweeted or posted in favour of palestinians on their social media accts?

Why should they?

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

National interests of a billion people trumps anything else.

So were Nazis also ok?
because germany had the largest population and hitler was an elected leader.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So were Nazis also ok?
because germany had the largest population and hitler was an elected leader.

Hitler Nazis or Germany has nothing to do with India. Not my country, not my concern.

Israel is a friendly country and has helped India in very difficult situations. While Hamas is a terrorist organisation, whose ideology matches with those who spread terrorism in Indian Territory too.

I guess that explains why many Indians support Israel.

 

[psyoptica]

There very well may be a resolution to the Palestine conflict someday and a long lasting peace and when that happens, the hindutva warriors will move on to some other “friend in need” oppressor to lick their boots showing their fake support as long as they continue killing Muslims.

Despicable creatures these people are and a blot on humanity.

 

[MP2011]

There very well may be a resolution to the Palestine conflict someday and a long lasting peace and when that happens, the hindutva warriors will move on to some other “friend in need” oppressor to lick their boots showing their fake support as long as they continue killing Muslims.

Despicable creatures these people are and a blot on humanity.

Why do you think we have such a grossly incompetent & religious bigot occupying the highest political chair in India? Its all due to these guys' fetish for Muslims being lynched with impunity under this guy's supervision which has made this creature winning 2 elections on the trot.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Honestly if we wanted to run our country on the basis of Pakistani opinion, we wouldn't have agreed for a partition. Thank god for the partition that we dont have people like you who think rioting is the way out if i dont agree with the elected government.

And who told you that the ordinary Indian has a problem with the way the country is being governed?

Lol at ‘wouldn’t have agreed for a partition.” Like you guys had A choice

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Hitler Nazis or Germany has nothing to do with India. Not my country, not my concern.

Israel is a friendly country and has helped India in very difficult situations. While Hamas is a terrorist organisation, whose ideology matches with those who spread terrorism in Indian Territory too.

I guess that explains why many Indians support Israel.

But the Indian government doesn’t support Israel and Netanyahu has taken note of that

 

[El Generico]

Honestly if we wanted to run our country on the basis of Pakistani opinion, we wouldn't have agreed for a partition. Thank god for the partition that we dont have people like you who think rioting is the way out if i dont agree with the elected government.

And who told you that the ordinary Indian has a problem with the way the country is being governed?

Lol this has to be one of the funniest thing I have ever read. Do you really thing you guys had any in or could have stopped partition? Is this really what they teach in Indian school?

India was a British territory and it was the Pakistan movement which led to the country being partitioned. You are making it seem like India was asked for permission

 

[El Generico]

And who told you that the ordinary Indian has a problem with the way the country is being governed?

Ordinary Indians told us and the world. Modi’s approval is at an all time low.

PM Modi’s approval rating falls as India struggles to contain second Covid-19 wave: US firm

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ll-india-second-covid-wave-1804199-2021-05-19

 

[dblock]

Ordinary Indians told us and the world. Modi’s approval is at an all time low.

PM Modi’s approval rating falls as India struggles to contain second Covid-19 wave: US firm

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ll-india-second-covid-wave-1804199-2021-05-19

This reflects global Indian population too, certainly those who I have come across have completely lost faith in Modi, given how poorly has handled the crisis and turned Indias image in the west from an aspiring power to basket case.

Most would want a more balanced growth going forward.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol at ‘wouldn’t have agreed
a partition.” Like you guys had A choice

Yes, we had a choice. Jinnah himself presented the alternatives of power sharing.

Thankfully the congress didn't agree to it and the partition happened.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ordinary Indians told us and the world. Modi’s approval is at an all time low.

PM Modi’s approval rating falls as India struggles to contain second Covid-19 wave: US firm

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...ll-india-second-covid-wave-1804199-2021-05-19

His approval ratings are at 63 per cent. Far above the 50 per cent threshold.

One of the reasons Modi is popular, is because pakistanis hate him.

 

[cricketjoshila]

This reflects global Indian population too, certainly those who I have come across have completely lost faith in Modi, given how poorly has handled the crisis and turned Indias image in the west from an aspiring power to basket case.

Most would want a more balanced growth going forward.

NRIs dont get to vote in Indian elections.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol this has to be one of the funniest thing I have ever read. Do you really thing you guys had any in or could have stopped partition? Is this really what they teach in Indian school?

India was a British territory and it was the Pakistan movement which led to the country being partitioned. You are making it seem like India was asked for permission

Congress refused to agree to any power sharing deal with Jinnah. And rightly so.

The muslims wanted whole punjab bengal and even parts within India as part of the partition, which was again refused.

We dont read our history from the book of pakistan studies.

As i said, i am happy that partition happened and problems of pakistanis and Bangladeshis are not our problems.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

What do the people actually living in Nagorno Karabakh want? Forget about the "legal" documents. Legally, India has a right to own Kashmir, but I'm not sure the Kashmiri muslims of the valley like being under the administration of the Indian state. The desire of the people living in a region matters far more than any legal documents signed by rulers or people not connected to them. I don't see the similarities with the Palestinian situation here. If it's there, please educate me on this.

The people in Nagorno Karabakh want to be either independent or join Armenia. However the war that was recently fought was not over over Nagorno Karabakh, but 7 districts surrounding that territory which were Azeri majority before.

The Armenian-occupied territories surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh were areas of Azerbaijan, situated outside the former Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO), which were occupied by the military forces of Armenia and the internationally unrecognized Republic of Artsakh from the end of the First Nagorno-Karabakh War (1988–1994) to 2020, when the territories were returned to Azerbaijani control in accordance to the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh ceasefire agreement.

Unlike Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast, the population of all the adjacent Armenian-occupied districts were majority-Azerbaijani until their deportations from the districts during the First Nagorno-Karabakh War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian-occupied_territories_surrounding_Nagorno-Karabakh

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

That’s a fictitious and overblown historical connection, that you have established in “your head”. This doesn’t change the fact that:

- India’s native jewish population (like cochin jews) etc has always been tiny. So much so that in modern day it never exceeded more than 10k individuals. Therefore if a few jewish families some hundred years ago found refuge in some Princely state of india, it doesn’t really make it a “Historical milestone”.
- India probably got favours from Mosad because of common enemy. Also there are not many countries in middle east (or even in the regions nearby). So israel would be engaging india to gain some sympathy.
- Israel is a re-seller of the US weapons and arms technology. So india is probably interested in a backdoor route to get the weapons they would like to acquire.

Therefore your theory of historical love between India and Israel is a flopped attempt at disguising the real reason, which is:

Hinduvita supporters in particular (and Indians in general) support Israel’s attractions against pales because they see a kind of “revenge against muslims” in all this.

Be man enough to admit the real and prevalent Islamophobia amongst your countrymen rather hiding behind these lame stories.

Well stated. Most Hindus have probably never seen a Jewish person in their life. Being 0.00000000001% of India's population, its a massive exaggeration to point out these "historic" relations.

 

[El Generico]

His approval ratings are at 63 per cent. Far above the 50 per cent threshold.

One of the reasons Modi is popular, is because pakistanis hate him.[/QUOTE]
That’s a very bad reason to vote for someone lol. But at least you are honest. Most countries based on factors like economy, healthcare but it seems like Indians vote based on who Pakistan hates. Didn’t know we held so much power over your elections.

 

[Local.Dada]

Well stated. Most Hindus have probably never seen a Jewish person in their life. Being 0.00000000001% of India's population, its a massive exaggeration to point out these "historic" relations.

How many Palestinians has the average Pakistani come across? In fact how many Pakistanis can point out Gaza on an atlas? Doesn’t stop their hearts from bleeeding for Palestine cause doesn’t it?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

How many Palestinians has the average Pakistani come across? In fact how many Pakistanis can point out Gaza on an atlas? Doesn’t stop their hearts from bleeeding for Palestine cause doesn’t it?

It's not just Pakistanis who's hearts bleed for Palestinians, you will find civilians and columnists all over the world who abhor the ethnic cleansing which Israel has done of the arab population of what used to be Palestine. Israel has unleashed all it's military machinery against a civilian population, I think even many Indians would not side with this.

Hindutvas on the other hand obviously have a special enmity for Muslims wherever they are, so they will side with Israel, and this is borne out by their contributions in this thread. Of course they can't say this openly, but not hard to read between the lines.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

How many Palestinians has the average Pakistani come across? In fact how many Pakistanis can point out Gaza on an atlas? Doesn’t stop their hearts from bleeeding for Palestine cause doesn’t it?

Right. The people in Pakistan support Palestinians became they are Muslim, the land has holy sites, and it does not hurt Pakistan in anyway by supporting Palestinians, unlike in Myanmar or China, Yemen, etc.

The question is why do Hindutva supporters love Israel so much. They have every right to support Israel, however i dont believe for one second its because 0.000000000001% of India has a Jewish population from centuries ago.

 

[El Generico]

How many Palestinians has the average Pakistani come across? In fact how many Pakistanis can point out Gaza on an atlas? Doesn’t stop their hearts from bleeeding for Palestine cause doesn’t it?

At least Pakistanis and Palestinians have a religious connection. Majority of Pakistan is Muslim and Palestine has the third holiest site in Islam. So at least it makes sense why Pakistanis are concerned about this cause.A lot people are also supporting Palestine because it seems clear that Israel is the aggressor.

On the other hand, what is India’s connection with Jews or Israel? What’s leading Indian social media users to embarrassingly kiss up to Israel? Why are they so involved in a conflict that has nothing to do with them ?

And please don’t say it’s because of the 1000 something Jews that live in the country of over a billion people.

 

[Local.Dada]

Right. The people in Pakistan support Palestinians became they are Muslim, the land has holy sites, and it does not hurt Pakistan in anyway by supporting Palestinians, unlike in Myanmar or China, Yemen, etc.

The question is why do Hindutva supporters love Israel so much. They have every right to support Israel, however i dont believe for one second its because 0.000000000001% of India has a Jewish population from centuries ago.

India was divided on the basis of religion, which religion? Don’t answer that. Rhetorical question:
Since then probably India has the most number of diverse religions of any country including its highest minority which is the same one that asked for a separate country. No issues there. That community has contributed so much to us.

Then we have Kashmir unrest. Guess what their argument is. It’s not about their culture, language etc but apparently their fight is for maintaining the “ xyz demographic” of their land.

Then we have pockets in Europe and some places in N.America etc asking for a religion based laws. What religion are those laws supposedly based on? Another rhetoric question. May be you don’t get those newspapers or websites where you live but rest of us keep up to date with these things.

Then we hear about Syria,Iraq, Iran,Pakistan,Sudan,Somalia, Nigeria which are not exactly what you would call model countries.

So you can may be excuse “Hindutva” people whatever the hell that means for choosing a side to support.

Now let me ask you a hypothetical question, would you rather have your family member work in UNICEF or UN which probably gets funding from a lot of conglomerates affiliated with you know who or encourage them to join the fight in Kashmir or Palestine? Don’t have to answer that to me, answer that to yourself and lot of questions on why people pick certain sides and narratives will be crystal clear.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Then we hear about Syria,Iraq, Iran,Pakistan,Sudan,Somalia, Nigeria which are not exactly what you would call model countries.

So you can may be excuse “Hindutva” people whatever the hell that means for choosing a side to support.

Are El Salvador, Mexico, Venezuela, Jamaica, South Sudan, Congo, Hondurus stable countries? The top 25 countries with the most homicides are not Muslim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Do Hindu Nationalist care about any of those other countries or conflicts?

Why do they care so much about the Israel/Palestine dispute? Its because Muslims countries are not stable as much as Israel? Ok. By that logic they should have supported Apartheid South Africa over the South Africa that exists today. I mean whites in South Africa have done more in Science, and White countries are more peaceful than Black ones, and more stable too.

Now let me ask you a hypothetical question, would you rather have your family member work in UNICEF or UN which probably gets funding from a lot of conglomerates affiliated with you know who or encourage them to join the fight in Kashmir or Palestine? Don’t have to answer that to me, answer that to yourself and lot of questions on why people pick certain sides and narratives will be crystal clear.

I have never advocated Palestinians, or Kashmiris use violence to achieve their goal. For Palestinians on this forum i have advocated going for the "One State Solution". For Kashmiris i have advocated them trying to get max autonomy in India, like South Tyrol or Aaland island.

 

[ahmedzee]

Their (hindutva) hate for Islam trumps their care for humanity. Hence why hindutva get along very well with the apartheid state of israel.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

How many Palestinians has the average Pakistani come across? In fact how many Pakistanis can point out Gaza on an atlas? Doesn’t stop their hearts from bleeeding for Palestine cause doesn’t it?

Atleast i know for sure that there is a Palestinian shwarma restaurant in Islamabad, run by Palestinian refugees. Given pakistan’s population of 27 mio (as compared to India’s 1.4 bio).

We now have proportionally the same 0.00000000001% of Palestinian population in Pakistan.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

India was divided on the basis of religion, which religion? Don’t answer that. Rhetorical question:
Since then probably India has the most number of diverse religions of any country including its highest minority which is the same one that asked for a separate country. No issues there. That community has contributed so much to us.

Then we have Kashmir unrest. Guess what their argument is. It’s not about their culture, language etc but apparently their fight is for maintaining the “ xyz demographic” of their land.

Then we have pockets in Europe and some places in N.America etc asking for a religion based laws. What religion are those laws supposedly based on? Another rhetoric question. May be you don’t get those newspapers or websites where you live but rest of us keep up to date with these things.

Then we hear about Syria,Iraq, Iran,Pakistan,Sudan,Somalia, Nigeria which are not exactly what you would call model countries.

So you can may be excuse “Hindutva” people whatever the hell that means for choosing a side to support.

Now let me ask you a hypothetical question, would you rather have your family member work in UNICEF or UN which probably gets funding from a lot of conglomerates affiliated with you know who or encourage them to join the fight in Kashmir or Palestine? Don’t have to answer that to me, answer that to yourself and lot of questions on why people pick certain sides and narratives will be crystal clear.

Those minorities who stayed in India was because congress claimed that it will be a secular state. Therefore these Indian muslims have the equal right on their homelands as hindus. They are also the sons of the soils.

As for kashmiris, they are rightly demanding to be independent of india because they are the natives of that land and don’t really share that much with the remaining indians (language, culture, genetics etc). This is no different from Indians wanting to be independent of Videshi Samaraj like Mughals, Britishers and so on. That’s something I understand and actually support in a historical context.

 

[Zaz]

Why should they?

Humanitys sake People all over the world are doing it without looking at self interest Or is humanity devoid with celebs there?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Humanitys sake People all over the world are doing it without looking at self interest Or is humanity devoid with celebs there?

If someone is doing something, its not necessary that someone else should follow the same. Its their wish what they want to do. Its personal liberty.

As i pointed out in another thread, some pakistanis have the habit of thinking that others should follow their viewpoint else they are "bad" people. This especially applies to Indians.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Those minorities who stayed in India was because congress claimed that it will be a secular state. Therefore these Indian muslims have the equal right on their homelands as hindus. They are also the sons of the soils.

As for kashmiris, they are rightly demanding to be independent of india because they are the natives of that land and don’t really share that much with the remaining indians (language, culture, genetics etc). This is no different from Indians wanting to be independent of Videshi Samaraj like Mughals, Britishers and so on. That’s something I understand and actually support in a historical context.

Whether India would be secular or not was the decision of the constituent assembly and not congress. After the partition, there was no compulsion for India to be secular nor was any such promise made to anyone. Muslims were given a separate country and were free to leave. They didn't have any right to demand a secular state in India.

India became secular because the majority religion agreed to it, if not, then even the constituent assembly couldn't have done much.

 

[Zaz]

If someone is doing something, its not necessary that someone else should follow the same. Its their wish what they want to do. Its personal liberty.

As i pointed out in another thread, some pakistanis have the habit of thinking that others should follow their viewpoint else they are "bad" people. This especially applies to Indians.

Humanity doesnt have borders or race or religion Its a universal feeling between a species for each other Well when most of the worlds citizens including many high profile intnl celebs are on one side supporting humanity and then you dont hear a peep from indian celebs then you have to ask the question what is the reason why they are quiet?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Humanity doesnt have borders or race or religion Its a universal feeling between a species for each other Well when most of the worlds citizens including many high profile intnl celebs are on one side supporting humanity and then you dont hear a peep from indian celebs then you have to ask the question what is the reason why they are quiet?

Thats your opinion. Others have theirs or have the right to not have one too. And thats their right and they can exercise it without being questioned or criticized for that.

 

[Zaz]

Thats your opinion. Others have theirs or have the right to not have one too. And thats their right and they can exercise it without being questioned or criticized for that.

They can excercise the right to be quiet yes but everyone has a right to question it or criticise it
Its a free world

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Thats your opinion. Others have theirs or have the right to not have one too. And thats their right and they can exercise it without being questioned or criticized for that.

Right to cherish and celebrate the killing of innocent ppl incl children and elderly?

This is what many Indians are doing openly all over the social media.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They can excercise the right to be quiet yes but everyone has a right to question it or criticise it
Its a free world

No you don't criticize someone for exercising their valid rights. Thats infringing on their liberty. A free world means people exercise their rights without being questioned for it.

As i said, some pakistanis have this habit of criticizing and questioning Indians for not doing what pakistanis think they should do.

 

[cricketjoshila]

They can excercise the right to be quiet yes but everyone has a right to question it or criticise it
Its a free world

If one is questioned and criticized, then its not a right, its a privilege.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Right to cherish and celebrate the killing of innocent ppl incl children and elderly?

This is what many Indians are doing openly all over the social media.

Just like some have the support a terrorist organisation Hamas, some support the right a sovereign state to defend itself.

 

[Zaz]

No you don't criticize someone for exercising their valid rights. Thats infringing on their liberty. A free world means people exercise their rights without being questioned for it.

As i said, some pakistanis have this habit of criticizing and questioning Indians for not doing what pakistanis think they should do.

Im glad you brought up rights and liberty Thats what palestinians dont have and are fighting daily for

But it looks like certain posters are selective about who should have them depending on likes and dislikes and various other factors

 

[Zaz]

Just like some have the support a terrorist organisation Hamas, some support the right a sovereign state to defend itself.

Hamas werent the ones that razed hundreds of villages to the ground, killed and displaced tens of hundreds of thousands of people many of them children or occupied illegally someone else land creating a apartheid state

I believe that "sovereign state" as you call it qualifies as a terror state by most definitions

 

[cricketjoshila]

Hamas werent the ones that razed hundreds of villages to the ground, killed and displaced tens of hundreds of thousands of people many of them children or occupied illegally someone else land creating a apartheid state

I believe that "sovereign state" as you call it qualifies as a terror state by most definitions

1000s of rockets were fired at Israel and they retaliated. Hamas should stop hiding in civilian areas.

Israel has every right to exist and is a recognised sovereign state. The territory they conquered, was when they were attacked. Like all conquerors, they kept their territory.

Well you are free to believe. That's your right.

I dont believe what you believe.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Im glad you brought up rights and liberty Thats what palestinians dont have and are fighting daily for

But it looks like certain posters are selective about who should have them depending on likes and dislikes and various other factors

I have already said, there should be a two state solution.

But if some believe that they can forcibly evict jews and finish off Israel, they are dreaming.

Now coming to the post, hopefully you now understand why someone has the right to not say anything, without being questioned or criticized.

 

[Kroll]

 

[Bewal Express]

So Hamas fired rockets for court decision that actually hasn't been delivered yet.

Tell me what the decision is going to be? and if you say you dont know then you are lying.

 

[Bewal Express]

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Great put down even if its a bot account.

 

[in_cutter]

These bakhts are shameless. Make me puke

 

[Zaz]

You cant justify the killing of hundreds of civilians including many children

You cant justify bombing schools hospitals and infrastructure

You cant justify having one rule and laws for israeli jews and another for israeli arabs

You cant justify forcibly taking land and property

You cant justify checkpoints for palestinians apartheid walls and ID cards

You cant justify shooting live rounds on civilians with no weapons

Thats what some are justifying Sorry but thats extremist morally wrong right wing talk

 

[sindhiboy]

I have already said, there should be a two state solution.

But if some believe that they can forcibly evict jews and finish off Israel, they are dreaming.

Now coming to the post, hopefully you now understand why someone has the right to not say anything, without being questioned or criticized.

If Muslim or Arab countries were all conspiring to wipe Israel out, it would already have been wiped out by now

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You cant justify the killing of hundreds of civilians including many children

You cant justify bombing schools hospitals and infrastructure

You cant justify having one rule and laws for israeli jews and another for israeli arabs

You cant justify forcibly taking land and property

You cant justify checkpoints for palestinians apartheid walls and ID cards

You cant justify shooting live rounds on civilians with no weapons

Thats what some are justifying Sorry but thats extremist morally wrong right wing talk

Not even sure why Hindutvas feel it necessary to justify any of it, it's not their fight.

 

[Rajdeep]

The same reason why Indian muslims and liberals support Palestine.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

The same reason why Indian muslims support Palestine.

Indian Hindus have some important religious site in Israel?

 

[Zaz]

The same reason why Indian muslims and liberals support Palestine.

Which is what?

 

[Rajdeep]

Indian Hindus have some important religious site in Israel?

So are you saying any country that have muslim religious sites, no other faith should live? Exactly the reason Indian right wing hindus support Israel.

The main reason of all these conflict is Israel is a thriving democracy and the only democracy in middle east. There lies the biggest problem...how can a jewish democratic nation lives in the heart of middle east. Ita a muslim land and no other religion should live. The same reason why pandits have been ousted from Kashmir just because they were not muslims. But when we live in a country where we are minority, suddenly we love democracy and equal rights

 

[Civil]

So are you saying any country that have muslim religious sites, no other faith should live? Exactly the reason Indian right wing hindus support Israel.

The main reason of all these conflict is Israel is a thriving democracy and the only democracy in middle east. There lies the biggest problem...how can a jewish democratic nation lives in the heart of middle east. Ita a muslim land and no other religion should live. The same reason why pandits have been ousted from Kashmir just because they were not muslims. But when we live in a country where we are minority, suddenly we love democracy and equal rights

The main reason of these conflicts in palestine is that millions have been displaced from their land... not because they are jealous of Israeli democracy.

I'm sure the whites in South Africa apartheid government and 1960s US segregationist states were also a thriving democracy, but what is it worth when majority of people on the land cannot vote or do as they please.

The other part you are implying on right wing Hindus supporting israel being because they feel one faith should dominate all other faiths I agree with you.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The same reason why Indian muslims and liberals support Palestine.

India as a nation also supported Palestine, although I am not sure if that is still the case following rise to power of Hindutva govt. Yo might be able to advise on this.

 

[Rajdeep]

India as a nation also supported Palestine, although I am not sure if that is still the case following rise to power of Hindutva govt. Yo might be able to advise on this.

Officially India stays away from issues in middle east as both Arab world and Israel are our great allies. Sometime its important to mind own business and not poke its nose in every issues, a concept totally alien to few. But in social media ofcourse people have their views. The left liberals support Palestine and Right wing supports Israel.

 

[kabbirann]

The power imbalance ,the fact that Palestinian children are being killed in this asymmetric warfare means than unless you are an empathy less weirdo aka a sanghi, your sympathies would be with the Palestinians.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Officially India stays away from issues in middle east as both Arab world and Israel are our great allies. Sometime its important to mind own business and not poke its nose in every issues, a concept totally alien to few. But in social media ofcourse people have their views. The left liberals support Palestine and Right wing supports Israel.

The left wing mostly support Palestine for humanitarian and political reasons. The right wing support Israel for religious reasons - Hindutva as per thread topic. Although of course hindus don't relate religiously with Abrahamic jews, but they relate to having Muslim enemy perhaps ( definitely).

 

[Zaz]

The left wing mostly support Palestine for humanitarian and political reasons. The right wing support Israel for religious reasons - Hindutva as per thread topic. Although of course hindus don't relate religiously with Abrahamic jews, but they relate to having Muslim enemy perhaps ( definitely).

At least the israeli right wing are straight forward in their reasons and dont even try to hide it anymore

Itd be mucb better if the rss element just come out straight as to their reasons as well Making a case of silly excuses ie we took in a thousand jews 70 years ago or trade deals etc makes them look to be very silly tbh

Honesty is the best policy

 

[Rajdeep]

The left wing mostly support Palestine for humanitarian and political reasons. The right wing support Israel for religious reasons - Hindutva as per thread topic. Although of course hindus don't relate religiously with Abrahamic jews, but they relate to having Muslim enemy perhaps ( definitely).

Humanitarian is an excuse. Most Indian muslims and leftists supports Palestine cause due to religious angle. If humanitarian is the reason why dont I see a similar support when Kashmiri Pandits were being driven out their homeland?

Pls dont teach me about India atleast. I know our people and especially liberals like the back of my palm. There is a reason left liberals are outcast in India and no one listens to them anymore.

 

[Zaz]

Humanitarian is an excuse. Most Indian muslims and leftists supports Palestine cause due to religious angle. If humanitarian is the reason why dont I see a similar support when Kashmiri Pandits were being driven out their homeland?

Pls dont teach me about India atleast. I know our people and especially liberals like the back of my palm. There is a reason left liberals are outcast in India and no one listens to them anymore.

I dont think millions of non arab asian people have come onto the streets in europe america north and south australasia southern africa etc and supporting palestine due to religion angle Most will be christian ao atheists

Pls explain your reasoning for supporting israel

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

So are you saying any country that have muslim religious sites, no other faith should live? Exactly the reason Indian right wing hindus support Israel.

The main reason of all these conflict is Israel is a thriving democracy and the only democracy in middle east. There lies the biggest problem...how can a jewish democratic nation lives in the heart of middle east. Ita a muslim land and no other religion should live. The same reason why pandits have been ousted from Kashmir just because they were not muslims. But when we live in a country where we are minority, suddenly we love democracy and equal rights

That’s one of the most stupid inferences you have ever made… and that is saying something for you.

You asked why do Indian Muslims care about Palestine? I gave an answer that because it has a holy site. Where did your rambling, factually incorrect diatribe come from lol? Where has anyone said non Muslim shouldn’t live there? Are you dense?

Anyways right wing Hindus supporting Israel is irrelevant to Israeli establishment lol. All they are left to is spamming Netanyahu’s Twitter hoping he throws a bone to them

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Humanitarian is an excuse. Most Indian muslims and leftists supports Palestine cause due to religious angle. If humanitarian is the reason why dont I see a similar support when Kashmiri Pandits were being driven out their homeland?

So the thousands of non Muslim people marching in new York, LA, Paris, London etc are secretly Muslim? Trevor Noah, John Oliver, Seth Rogen (Jewish person) and the dozens of other celebrities are secret Muslims lol

Any more gems to come from you or are you gonna call it a day

 

[Local.Dada]

So the thousands of non Muslim people marching in new York, LA, Paris, London etc are secretly Muslim? Trevor Noah, John Oliver, Seth Rogen (Jewish person) and the dozens of other celebrities are secret Muslims lol

Any more gems to come from you or are you gonna call it a day

Those guys are all millionaires. Good or bad either ways they will get mileage out of it.

I don’t think they will be sending their kids to fight Israel army.

To a lesser extent same applies to the people taking interest in this so called humanitarian debate.

It’s some poor peasants son who will blow himself up in some public square in Tel Aviv. At best people can cheerlead for them under anonymity.

Israel does what it is good for them, if people have a problem they can stop them instead of whining and cribbing about it. I don’t know who is right or wrong because I have no stake in the fight but I do appreciate their tenacity. In fact Pakistan and even India can learn so much from them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Humanitarian is an excuse. Most Indian muslims and leftists supports Palestine cause due to religious angle. If humanitarian is the reason why dont I see a similar support when Kashmiri Pandits were being driven out their homeland?

Pls dont teach me about India atleast. I know our people and especially liberals like the back of my palm. There is a reason left liberals are outcast in India and no one listens to them anymore.

So leftist liberal Indians support Palestine due to religious angle? )

Please stop.

 

[Civil]

Those guys are all millionaires. Good or bad either ways they will get mileage out of it.

I don’t think they will be sending their kids to fight Israel army.

To a lesser extent same applies to the people taking interest in this so called humanitarian debate.

It’s some poor peasants son who will blow himself up in some public square in Tel Aviv. At best people can cheerlead for them under anonymity.

Israel does what it is good for them, if people have a problem they can stop them instead of whining and cribbing about it. I don’t know who is right or wrong because I have no stake in the fight but I do appreciate their tenacity. In fact Pakistan and even India can learn so much from them.

Those millionaires are not advocating a violent solution so why would the test of their sincerity have to be sending their kids to war?

The analogy about kids going to war is mostly apt for the millions of Hindutva Internet trolls that talk about destruction of Palestinians, Muslims etc all day online but would never send their kid.

I will agree that these type of keyboard warriors exist in Pakistan as well for various reasons, but this thread is about the trend of right wing Indians doing cheerleading for Israel in current conflict.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Hindu RSS/Shiv Sena, Nazi SS, ISIS and Zionist Irgun (aka IDF Israeli Defense Force) share the similar ideology.

As they say, Birds of a feather flock together.

At least, likes of Bal Thackeray did openly praise Hitler.

But these neo-Zionist bigot trolls can't even do that.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Maybe this video can guide these confused trolls:

Spoiler

Shameless people.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Tell me what the decision is going to be? and if you say you dont know then you are lying.

There is some reason why the decision was not delivered.

 

[cricketjoshila]

If Muslim or Arab countries were all conspiring to wipe Israel out, it would already have been wiped out by now

They tried. Got beaten blue and black, lost territory and went back.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India as a nation also supported Palestine, although I am not sure if that is still the case following rise to power of Hindutva govt. Yo might be able to advise on this.

India as a nation, supports a two state solution and Israel's right to self defense and a sovereign state.

Being a secular non islamic country we dont take decisions on the basis of religion but national interests.

As an Indian, i am quite happy with that.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Humanitarian is an excuse. Most Indian muslims and leftists supports Palestine cause due to religious angle. If humanitarian is the reason why dont I see a similar support when Kashmiri Pandits were being driven out their homeland?

Pls dont teach me about India atleast. I know our people and especially liberals like the back of my palm. There is a reason left liberals are outcast in India and no one listens to them anymore.

Leftists in India are a joke and a rapidly declining in influence. Its good that they cannot influence our policies any more. It was due to their misguidance that we recognized Israel only in 1992.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Humanitarian is an excuse. Most Indian muslims and leftists supports Palestine cause due to religious angle. If humanitarian is the reason why dont I see a similar support when Kashmiri Pandits were being driven out their homeland?

Pls dont teach me about India atleast. I know our people and especially liberals like the back of my palm. There is a reason left liberals are outcast in India and no one listens to them anymore.

Since you know Indians like the back of your palm, why in your opinion is their so much support for Israel among Hindu Nationalist?

 

[Bewal Express]

There is some reason why the decision was not delivered.

Yes we know why? They were going to evict Palestinian families and they feared the consequences of their Apartheid policies. As much as you guys want to hang on to the coat tails of the Zionists, those Eastern European Jews see you as smelly brown people.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

They tried. Got beaten blue and black, lost territory and went back.

Yeah, just like what happened in India for last 700 years.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yeah, just like what happened in India for last 700 years.

Yea, people on our western frontier were easily conquered. Then they changed themselves into the clothes of the invaders and started thinking they were conquerors. What a relief they are not part of my country anymore.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Yea, people on our western frontier were easily conquered. Then they changed themselves into the clothes of the invaders and started thinking they were conquerors. What a relief they are not part of my country anymore.

You are one crazy fella.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Since you know Indians like the back of your palm, why in your opinion is their so much support for Israel among Hindu Nationalist?

Who told you only hindu nationalists support Israel? I mean some people can try to console themselves by thinking that only a sub sect of a particular religion supports Israel, but actually the support is far wider. Just like some think that only Modi and Bjp is responsible for the poor indo pak relationship. Where as in reality, Modi's pakistan policy has widespread support among Indians.

Israel is a friendly country, a very reliable ally. It has helped India in two wars. In one they even supplied India from their own reserves. I see no reason Indians wont support a country with whom our national interests ally.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Indians are entitled to support who they want in this matter.

Some of the reactions from Israelis telling them to eff off and not put the Indian flag next to the Indian flag on twitter etc are hilarious though.

Ultimately in the grand scheme of things India is insignificant in the ME. Israel will charge on or without Indian "support". I doubt any right wing Israelis really care what poor Hindus have to say. They have bigger goals and bigger lobbies.

 

[cricketjoshila]

You are one crazy fella.

One of the things i have learnt on PP is to reply to people in the same coin.