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sorry like you just actually posted - India sits on the fence too much - just like the anchor stated - bold part sums it up
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sorry like you just actually posted - India sits on the fence too much - just like the anchor stated - bold part sums it up
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For a good reason. India is not a superpower like USA or Russia. Needs to be more diplomatic than adventurous.
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And I just explained the reasons for the stance in detail. A state takes a certain stance only if it's politically beneficial and not detrimental to it.
India has always maintained a policy of non alignment historically and a stance of not taking sides in a battle that doesn't affect it. Why would it now take sides and create enemies out of states when it doesn't have a pressing need to do so..
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Well, our decisions are made according to our national interests.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today's shameful decision is yet another example of the UN Human Rights Council's blatant anti-Israel obsession.</p>— Benjamin Netanyahu (@netanyahu) <a href="https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1397971484149178370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Just the read responses to this tweet. Do normal Indians not find this embarrassing?
Let’s hope he throws the Indians a bone for their loyalty. Till now all he’s done is give them humiliation by not even acknowledging their existence while they beg him in the comments.
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Why are you so hurt? Because Israel helped India to break away Bangladesh? Or because they helped India during Kargil?
Or because the Israelis dont bother about what pakistan has to say. Something Modi has started doing.
How much Israel has helped India, in various ways both in times of war and peace, is an exceptional effort.
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I see, how noble of you. Forget him then.
Here is the same Mufti quote referenced in another book authored by a Penn U professor. This was published four years before the Dershowitz book.
https://books.google.co.in/books?id... Germany in the handling of its Jews"&f=false
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Not only do most historians consider him the Father of the Palestine National Movement but he was also the mentor to a very young Anwar Sadat and Yasser Arafat. Sadat was later President of Egypt and Arafat was the longtime leader of the PLO.
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Lol at ‘most’ historians. You are too funny sir
This mufti was appointed by a foreign colonizer. Not some popular representative of the Palestinian people like you say
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There’s nothing to be hurt at lol
I will admit it’s funny to see Indians on Twitter hoping that Nethanyahu throws a bone at them but despite the desperation nothing happens
)Why are you so opposed to people having a good laugh at a genuinely hilarious dynamic lmao
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[MENTION=29115]RexRex[/MENTION] Zionists and Nazis had good relations
Checkout this book: https://www.amazon.es/Zionism-Age-Dictators-Lenni-Brenner/dp/5881741323
This interview series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gUwqKBfUgs
Zionist Kurt Tuchler and his wife (left) take Nazi official Leopold von Mildenstein and his wife on a six-month trip to Palestine. Afterward von Mildenstein reported his extremely positive impressions of the Zionist enterprise in a 12-part-series entitled “A Nazi Goes to Palestine,” featured in the Nazi party’s flagship publication.
Checkout this book: https://www.amazon.es/Zionism-Age-Dictators-Lenni-Brenner/dp/5881741323
This interview series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gUwqKBfUgs
Zionist Kurt Tuchler and his wife (left) take Nazi official Leopold von Mildenstein and his wife on a six-month trip to Palestine. Afterward von Mildenstein reported his extremely positive impressions of the Zionist enterprise in a 12-part-series entitled “A Nazi Goes to Palestine,” featured in the Nazi party’s flagship publication.
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Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54334.Hitler_s_Jewish_Soldiers
Zionists were literally helping Hitler to get rid of European Jews!
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54334.Hitler_s_Jewish_Soldiers
Zionists were literally helping Hitler to get rid of European Jews!
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Here is a detailed interview of author:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?177767-1/hitlers-jewish-soldiers
He has thousands of hours of interviews, photos, interviews and physical evidence as well.
Sorry Hindutva Zionitsts, no ad hominem. The man backed his book with facts.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?177767-1/hitlers-jewish-soldiers
He has thousands of hours of interviews, photos, interviews and physical evidence as well.
Sorry Hindutva Zionitsts, no ad hominem. The man backed his book with facts.
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Why Indian government has gone dumb over it
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India supports Palestine's membership at UN; says only two-State solution will deliver enduring peace
India has underscored its support for Palestine's full membership at the UN while asserting that only a two-State solution, achieved through direct and meaningful negotiations, will deliver an enduring peace in the volatile region.
India voted in favour of a draft UN General Assembly resolution last week that said Palestine is qualified and should be admitted as a full member of the United Nations and recommended that the Security Council “reconsider" the matter “favourably”.
"In keeping with our longstanding position, we support the membership of Palestine at the UN and, therefore, we have voted in favour of this Resolution," India's Permanent Representative to the UN, Ruchira Kamboj, told the UN General Assembly on Monday.
"We hope that Palestine's application would be reconsidered by the Security Council in due course and that Palestine's endeavour to become a member of the UN will get endorsed,” she said.
The 193-member General Assembly had met Friday for an emergency special session where the Arab Group resolution ‘Admission of new Members to the United Nations’, in support of the State of Palestine's full membership in the UN, was presented by the United Arab Emirates, as Chair of the Arab Group in May.
The resolution got 143 votes in favour, including by India, nine against and 25 abstentions. The UNGA hall broke into applause after the vote was cast.
The resolution determined that “the State of Palestine is qualified for membership in the United Nations” in accordance with Article 4 of the Charter of the United Nations and "should, therefore, be admitted to membership in the United Nations”.
It recommended that the Security Council “reconsider the matter favourably in the light of this determination”.
Currently, Palestine is a “non-member observer state” at the UN, a status granted to it by the General Assembly in 2012. This status allows Palestine to participate in proceedings of the world body but it cannot vote on resolutions.
Kamboj stressed that India's leadership has repeatedly emphasised that only a two-State solution, achieved through direct and meaningful negotiations between both sides on final status issues, will deliver an enduring peace.
"India is committed to supporting a two-State solution where the Palestinian people are able to live freely in an independent country within secure borders, with due regard to the security needs of Israel. To arrive at a lasting solution, we urge all parties to foster conditions conducive to resuming direct peace negotiations at an early date,” she said.
The UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said that between October 7 last year and May 12, at least 35,091 Palestinians have been killed and 78,827 injured in Gaza. Over 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals have been killed in Israel, the vast majority on October 7, when Hamas attacked Israel.
Kamboj said that the conflict in Gaza has been going on for over seven months and the humanitarian crisis it has triggered has been increasing. “There is also the potential for growing instability in the region and beyond,” she said.
She said the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas has led to a large-scale loss of civilian lives, especially women and children.
"We have strongly condemned the deaths of civilians in the conflict,” she said, adding that the terror attacks in Israel on October 7 were shocking and they deserve unequivocal condemnation from the international community.
"There can be no justification for terrorism and hostage taking. India has a longstanding and uncompromising position against terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, and we demand the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages,” she said.
Emphasising that the humanitarian situation in Gaza is dire, Kamboj said it is imperative that humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza be scaled up immediately in order to avert a further deterioration in the situation.
Noting the recent facilitation of a greater flow of humanitarian aid into Gaza by the Israeli authorities, Kamboj said India has provided humanitarian aid to the people of Palestine and will continue to do so.
India was the first non-Arab State to recognise the Palestine Liberation Organisation as the sole and legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in 1974.
India was also one of the first countries to recognise the State of Palestine in 1988 and in 1996, Delhi opened its Representative Office to the Palestine Authority in Gaza, which was later shifted to Ramallah in 2003.
In April this year, Palestine sent a letter to UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, requesting that its application for full UN membership be considered again.
For a State to be granted full UN membership, its application must be approved both by the Security Council and the General Assembly, where a two-third majority of the members present and voting is required for the State to be admitted as a full member.
Last month, the US had vetoed a resolution in the Security Council on the Palestinian bid to be granted full membership of the United Nations.
The 15-nation Council had voted on a draft resolution that would have recommended to the 193-member UN General Assembly “that the State of Palestine be admitted to membership in the United Nations”. The resolution got 12 votes in its favour, with Switzerland and the UK abstaining and the US casting its veto.
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India has underscored its support for Palestine's full membership at the UN while asserting that only a two-State solution, achieved through direct and meaningful negotiations, will deliver an enduring peace in the volatile region.
India voted in favour of a draft UN General Assembly resolution last week that said Palestine is qualified and should be admitted as a full member of the United Nations and recommended that the Security Council “reconsider" the matter “favourably”.
"In keeping with our longstanding position, we support the membership of Palestine at the UN and, therefore, we have voted in favour of this Resolution," India's Permanent Representative to the UN, Ruchira Kamboj, told the UN General Assembly on Monday.
"We hope that Palestine's application would be reconsidered by the Security Council in due course and that Palestine's endeavour to become a member of the UN will get endorsed,” she said.
The 193-member General Assembly had met Friday for an emergency special session where the Arab Group resolution ‘Admission of new Members to the United Nations’, in support of the State of Palestine's full membership in the UN, was presented by the United Arab Emirates, as Chair of the Arab Group in May.
The resolution got 143 votes in favour, including by India, nine against and 25 abstentions. The UNGA hall broke into applause after the vote was cast.
The resolution determined that “the State of Palestine is qualified for membership in the United Nations” in accordance with Article 4 of the Charter of the United Nations and "should, therefore, be admitted to membership in the United Nations”.
It recommended that the Security Council “reconsider the matter favourably in the light of this determination”.
Currently, Palestine is a “non-member observer state” at the UN, a status granted to it by the General Assembly in 2012. This status allows Palestine to participate in proceedings of the world body but it cannot vote on resolutions.
Kamboj stressed that India's leadership has repeatedly emphasised that only a two-State solution, achieved through direct and meaningful negotiations between both sides on final status issues, will deliver an enduring peace.
"India is committed to supporting a two-State solution where the Palestinian people are able to live freely in an independent country within secure borders, with due regard to the security needs of Israel. To arrive at a lasting solution, we urge all parties to foster conditions conducive to resuming direct peace negotiations at an early date,” she said.
The UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs said that between October 7 last year and May 12, at least 35,091 Palestinians have been killed and 78,827 injured in Gaza. Over 1,200 Israelis and foreign nationals have been killed in Israel, the vast majority on October 7, when Hamas attacked Israel.
Kamboj said that the conflict in Gaza has been going on for over seven months and the humanitarian crisis it has triggered has been increasing. “There is also the potential for growing instability in the region and beyond,” she said.
She said the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas has led to a large-scale loss of civilian lives, especially women and children.
"We have strongly condemned the deaths of civilians in the conflict,” she said, adding that the terror attacks in Israel on October 7 were shocking and they deserve unequivocal condemnation from the international community.
"There can be no justification for terrorism and hostage taking. India has a longstanding and uncompromising position against terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, and we demand the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages,” she said.
Emphasising that the humanitarian situation in Gaza is dire, Kamboj said it is imperative that humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza be scaled up immediately in order to avert a further deterioration in the situation.
Noting the recent facilitation of a greater flow of humanitarian aid into Gaza by the Israeli authorities, Kamboj said India has provided humanitarian aid to the people of Palestine and will continue to do so.
India was the first non-Arab State to recognise the Palestine Liberation Organisation as the sole and legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in 1974.
India was also one of the first countries to recognise the State of Palestine in 1988 and in 1996, Delhi opened its Representative Office to the Palestine Authority in Gaza, which was later shifted to Ramallah in 2003.
In April this year, Palestine sent a letter to UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, requesting that its application for full UN membership be considered again.
For a State to be granted full UN membership, its application must be approved both by the Security Council and the General Assembly, where a two-third majority of the members present and voting is required for the State to be admitted as a full member.
Last month, the US had vetoed a resolution in the Security Council on the Palestinian bid to be granted full membership of the United Nations.
The 15-nation Council had voted on a draft resolution that would have recommended to the 193-member UN General Assembly “that the State of Palestine be admitted to membership in the United Nations”. The resolution got 12 votes in its favour, with Switzerland and the UK abstaining and the US casting its veto.
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I support Palestinian people because they are being suppressed by a cruel regime but GOI has no point supporting them as geo politically Palestenians will never support India at UN.
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UN has done nothing when it comes to solving any conflict between countries. Many examples are out there like kashmir, somalia, Afghanistan, Iran etc etc. This organization is just a talk show. None of the steps they take means anything.
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What makes them vermin?
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Inna lilahi wa Inna ilyhi rajioon.
It takes exceptional bravery to continue to operate in such an environment knowing the Israelis are bombing anything and everyone.
This man really put his life on the line to help the Palestinians.
I hope he is recognised as a hero in India.
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Saudi, and by Saudi I mean the Royal Family, are under the thumb of the USA, much like the Pakistani Establishment
They are trouble makers with sole aim of destroying Israel. You will understand it when you read about Hamas Charter. They don't want peace. They just want the destruction of Israel.
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Can you post the bits in the Hamas charter that you are referring to?
What do you think Benjamin Netanyahu's aims are? Or the aims of the Israeli illegal settlers?
I am just highlighting a few. You can read the whole thing yourself.
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Article 7 - describes Hamas as "one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the pro israel invaders" and claims continuity with the followers of the religious and nationalist hero Izz ad-Din al-Qassam from the Great Arab Revolt as well as the Palestinian combatants of the First Arab-Israeli War. It ends with Sahih al-Bukhari's hadith Muslim 2922, suggesting that the Day of Judgment would not come until the Muslims fight and kill the Jews. Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer.
Article 27 Praises the PLO but condemns its secularism.[1]Article 30: Calls on "writers, intellectuals, media people, orators, educaters and teachers, and all the various sectors in the Arab and Islamic world" to pursue jihad.
The original, 1988 version of the charter emphasize four main themes destroying Israel and establishing an Islamic theocracy in Palestine is essential;Unrestrained jihad is necessary to achieve this;Negotiated resolutions of Jewish and Palestinian claims to the land are unacceptable;[55]Historical anti-semitic tropes that reinforce the goals.
The Preamble to the 1988 Charter stated: ″Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam invalidates it, just as it invalidated others before it″.It emphasizes the importance of jihad for the Palestinian question, adding that "initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."
The charter also states that Hamas is humanistic, and tolerant of other religions as long as they "stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region".change word Zionist to pro israel
1988 Hamas charter - Wikipedia
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I am just highlighting a few. You can read the whole thing yourself.
1988 Hamas charter - Wikipedia
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Article 7 - describes Hamas as "one of the links in the chain of the struggle against the Zionist invaders" and claims continuity with the followers of the religious and nationalist hero Izz ad-Din al-Qassam from the Great Arab Revolt as well as the Palestinian combatants of the First Arab-Israeli War. It ends with Sahih al-Bukhari's hadith Muslim 2922, suggesting that the Day of Judgment would not come until the Muslims fight and kill the Jews.[1][46]
Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer.[1]
Article 27 Praises the PLO but condemns its secularism.[1]
Article 30: Calls on "writers, intellectuals, media people, orators, educaters and teachers, and all the various sectors in the Arab and Islamic world" to pursue jihad.[1]
The original, 1988 version of the charter emphasize four main themes:[55]
- Destroying Israel and establishing an Islamic theocracy in Palestine is essential;[55]
- Unrestrained jihad is necessary to achieve this;[55]
- Negotiated resolutions of Jewish and Palestinian claims to the land are unacceptable;[55]
- Historical anti-semitic tropes that reinforce the goals.[55]
The Preamble to the 1988 Charter stated: ″Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam invalidates it, just as it invalidated others before it″.[1] It emphasizes the importance of jihad for the Palestinian question, adding that "initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."[53] The charter also states that Hamas is humanistic, and tolerant of other religions as long as they "stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region".[
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces
"Most of the time, Israeli policy was to treat the Palestinian Authority as a burden and Hamas as an asset. Far-right MK Bezalel Smotrich, now the finance minister in the hardline government and leader of the Religious Zionism party, said so himself in 2015."I don't want to justify the Hamas over here, but most of the articles against Israel that you mentioned over here, were scrapped by Hamas in 2000's and very recently said were ready to accept Israel given they are given back the border of 67. But as shown in the article above, Netanyahu himself was using Hamas as an excuse to continue the oppression and occupation of Palestine.
So who is the real vermin again ?
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Hamas has toned down their Islamic rhetoric in their 2017 Charter. But they still want the entirety of Israel which means Jews have no place in that land.
Their latest charter calls Jerusalem and Palestine as their holy and sacred land. I guess they forgot that their sacred land is 800 miles to the south of it in Saudi Arabia.
If they wanted peaceful solution, they do not declare war on Israel like they did on Oct 7th. They have put the Arab civilians in harms way while they themselves hid in the tunnels. Till now they have not released the hostages and have not accepted the defeat. They clearly do not care about the lives of the people they are supposed to protect.
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Their long term aim is to actually expand Israel to include land in Syria and Lebanon as according to their scriptures these would be included as part of the Jewish homeland. Maybe our hindutva posters have a blind spot when it comes to zionist expansionism with their focus solely aimed at perceived threat from Islam.
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Pre pro israel movement, there was majority of the religions living peacefully, side by side and there was no issues. The orthodox Jews, muslims, Christians had no issues at all. It's the pro israel movement who brought in their evil toxic culture which relates to Nazis of Germany, or to a lesser extent the Rss hindutwa extremists who are hell bent on Genocide.
And no. October 7th was just another day, since the occupation started over 75 years ago. What's happening currently is no doubt the worst period in the entire illegal occupation
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One might expect that Indians would rally behind anyone resisting for liberty against the last vestiges of colonial settlers. However, due to inherited indoctrinated hatred towards Muslims, supporters of the BJP in India have chosen to offer their full support for colonialism.
You mean Israel is using Palestine as its colony?
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Israel is a colony?
You guys can keep repeating bjp supporters bjp supporters if it helps you sleep at night, but fact is hardly anyone here is bothered.
Not our war. Not our problem.
You mean to say that Jews, Christians, Muslims lived in peace and sang kumbaya before Israel was formed?
The land of Judea was always controlled by foreign powers who favored people that followed their cult.
If anyone really colonized holy land, it was Ottomans. Jews always lived in Judea.
Muslim Palestinians are Arabs and they only showed up in Jerusalem when Muslim armies forcefully conquered it. Your colonialism argument makes no sense.
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Muslim conquest of any land is glory. Rest are all colonialism.
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In each of your responses defending BJP bigotry, you inadvertently disclose a notable inclination towards supporting individuals who are anti-Muslim, despite asserting indifference to criticism regarding your concealed endorsement of those who suppress and harm Muslims. You attempt to mask this inclination, yet you find yourself unable to openly articulate it, recognizing that such support would be perceived as bigoted.
This observation is not intended as a personal attack; rather, it is a keen observation of your consistent pattern of response whenever the BJP is accused of bigotry.
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You are confusing India with keyboard warriors, India has voted for 2 state solution even when Fake Champion countries like Canada have voted against it.
India the country’s representation is by GOI’s policies which are not against Palestine.
I would like to argue though India the country benefits more from Israel than it would with Palestine in UN.
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I made sure to specify Indian BJP supporters. I have only encountered Indians who are staunch BJP supporters, and they have sought to employ every possible excuse to justify the Gaza genocide.
I am aware of the Indian government's public stance.
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You can keep accusing. It will not change anything anywhere for India.
India won't be forced into doing anything because xyz is accusing us.
BJP seems to have done a number on you, you seem to believe they're doing something others in power in India won't.
You have no idea how Indian foreign policy works. For starters, unlike Pakistan, its not based on religion.
India supports a two state solution for the problem and voted for the same at UN.
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So BJP supporters have a stamp that says they are BJP supporters and hence you recognised them?
Israel-Palestine war isn't our problem and we won't be doing anything on it. Pakistanis may not like it. But then we work as per our interests and not theirs.
Replace the above para with Russia-Ukraine war and Pakistan with NATO. Policy remains same.
Replace it with Russia-Georgia war. Policy remains same.
Replace it with Israel-Lebanon war or other Israel-Palestine conflicts in last 25 years. Policy remains same.
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Every country works according to it’s own interests, even the Islamic countries.
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Sir, I have accused individual Indians who happen to be BJP supporters, not the Indian government. You are welcome to verify this by reviewing my original comment to which you chose to respond.
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Certainly, as individuals, we are not obligated to blindly support the Gaza genocide or seek to justify it at every turn.
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Of course I don't support it as an individual. But I support my country's official stance.
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Hindutwa brigades sensitivity to defend any form of opression is a guilty conscience which has no remedy. As we see on this topic.
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As it is reported in various news outlets, the Indian government, exploiting a legal loophole, has dispatched arms to be utilized in the ongoing conflict contributing to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
Even Saudi people don't care about the Palestinians. They do not even consider them to be human.
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Israel sells us weapons. In 1971, when India didn't have official diplomatic relations with Israel, on request of Indira Gandhi, Israeli government diverted a shipment of weapons going to Europe to India.
Its well known that Israel supplied weapons to India in 1999 from its own stocks.
We as a country are extremely grateful to them.
India and Israel jointly develop weapon systems and certain Israeli companies have JVs with Indian companies.
So the flow of weapons is a two way street here.
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Naturally, it's a reciprocal relationship for both India and Israel.
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Indian foreign policy is not based on religion? Right. That's why they're offering Indian citizenship to Hindus in Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc? Give me a break. India loves to claim itself as a secular democracy but Modi is intent on turning it into anything but that.
Your racist leader is just using the same playbook of many before him, and your people are eating it up. Claim that "the majority" is being held back by a savage and untamed minority. Blame said minority for all problems the majority faces. Tolerate persecution of that population. Reward majority with economic perks so your agenda sells and your popularity grows. And cycle continues.
You are wrong bro. Jerusalm have got the third holiest site of Islam - Al Aqsa Mosque, and therefore it is the third holiest city of Islam as well.
But you did not address the main issue in my post. Peaceful solution cannot be reached by only one party's adoptation. Hamas did it's part to discard all its extreme ideology and was ready to recognise Israel in order to achieve a Palestanian state.
Even very recently, they were ready to accept the deal to release the hostage in favour permanent ceasefire. But again Israel was the one who dispose the peace deal that the US was initiating. Even US could not blame Hamas this time for tanking the peace deal.
Peaceful solution has to be achieved by the willingness of both parties. Israel is the disrupter party to the formation of the 2 state solution that the entire world is seeking at the moment. Therefore majority of the blames resides with the Israel itself, for all the unrest of this regions for decades. The entire world and even the younger generation of the western world have started to understand this now.
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Minorities in Pakistan and BD were made second grade citizens in 1947. They didn't get any chance to have a say. These people need to be given a chance to have a better life. Jinnah made promises to the Minorities and none were fulfilled.
Islamic nations are fine, Muslims getting preference is fine, the moment you talk about equal rights its racism.
Lets be honest here. Al Aqsa mosque was built during the time of Abdul Malik after 690 AD. It is far detached from holy cities of Mecca and Medina. There were no Arabs or Muslims in Jerusalem prior to Arab conquest of Jerusalem.
If Hamas wanted peaceful solution, they would have released all the hostages by now. They did not. They are only demanding ceasefire because they grossly miscalculated the Israeli response. No Arab country came to their rescue. They want to regroup and Rafah is the last area where they could hide. Even that is under Israeli offensive.
Hamas leadership still did not surrender. They are happily living in Qatar and now in Turkey while they are letting Palestinians and their fighters deal with IDF.
I am sorry, you do not have any authority to tell us how important Al Aqsa Mosque is for muslims. It is our first qibla and its authentication for our holy site is supported by the Prophet himself. It is one of 2 birth place of the Abrahamic religion (another being Mecca itself - both of this site was created by the Prophet Ibrahim(Abraham)). It is very much holy and important for the muslims as well as for the jews and christians. So respectfully I request you to please refrain from further comments on a subject that you do not have enough understanding.
Secondly, releasing all hostages will be big mistake for Hamas as there would be no more initiative for Israel to refrain or stop this occupation. They will not have any further pressure from inside their country to bomb their way out of Gaza. It would be absolute stupidity for Hamas to release all the hostages without getting any guranty for permanent ceasefire. If you want the release of all the hostages than sign a permanent ceasefire. By not doing so Israel is not only harming its standing in the world but also loosing all its support from within aswell. Netanyhu is in extreme weak position where constant protests are happening against him by the people of Israel itself. Why would Hamas release all this pressure from the Netanyahu without getting permanent ceasefire and release of palestanian prisoners in the Israel.
As for other Arab countries coming for their help, well what is Yemen doing now? Why is Hizbullah attacking Northern Israel ? Why the militia of Iraq is bombing the airfield and ports of Israel all the way from Iraq? Why other Arab countries are helping South Africa in thier case against Israel in the ICJ ?
If you go by that logic, anyone can make up a story and claim certain site belongs to them. This is like Hindu nuts claiming that Kaba is a Shiva temple. No evidence to back up that any Hindu ruler ever went to Saudia and built the temple there. It will be laughed off.
You are talking about occupation. Last I read, Gaza and Westbank are under the control of Hamas and PA. Israel is not ruling them. So your occupation thesis does not hold. The present day Israel is won by Israel fair and square as they fought wars over it. As you know, winners take the spoils. You can blame the ineptness of Arab states.
While most Arab countries have made peace with Israel, its the Western/subcontinent Muslims, Iran and Qatar that are crying about Israeli occupation.
The entire war would end if Egypt takes over Gaza and Jordan takes over Westbank. But they don't want any part of the radicalized people of Gaza and Westbank.
Yemeni Houthis and Hezbollah are Iranian proxies. Everyone knows that.
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That specific policy was more for domestic politics and domestic consumption rather than a foreign policy per se.
If you understand domestic audience and domestic politics in India you would understand it.
Indian Foreign policy by and large is void of religion.
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This individual posts falsehoods, insinuating that we are the most foolish beings on this planet, while claiming to possess exclusive knowledge inaccessible to the rest of us.
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Does this imply that Muslims in India, whose ancestors hailed from the country, are now bearing the brunt of consequences because their forebears embraced Islam?
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Not only Hindus but other religions as well, only Muslims aren’t because all those countries have Muslims in majority..
Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis or Christians..
And only three countries..where there is prosecution of non Muslims..
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Israel is definitely an aggressor, not saying Hamas are not guilty but Israel has gone beyond limit to be cruel inflicting continuous assault on innocents along with violating multiple International laws.
Israel has blatantly done this with knowledge of it as , one will notice in 10 years how BP is involved in the land Israel flattened.(The hold is temporary)
Israel has blatantly done this with knowledge of it as , one will notice in 10 years how BP is involved in the land Israel flattened.(The hold is temporary)
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No, just like current white people shouldn’t bear any brunt for what they did in US, Australia, England.. to natives, Blacks or witch hunt on women.
But glorifying white colonialism should be challenged similar to ones that did same in India(Ashoka or Aurangzeb)
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The slaves who rebelled against their plantation masters were perceived as perpetrating brutality against their owners. Instances such as Nat Turner's rebellion were likely branded as propaganda akin to terrorism. Figures like Geronimo would have been labeled as terrorists, as would anyone who rebelled against British colonization.
Rather than condemning colonized peoples, the focus should be on condemning dual-citizen settler colonizers, who have the option to depart whenever resistance against colonization arises.
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Certainly, while it's important to question everything, resorting to bigotry and violence is not the appropriate approach.
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What consequences? You need to be specific and not make such remarks with no context.
The post simply implies how posters here glorify muslim conquerors while call other colonists.
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Hamas and other terrorist organisations use asymmetric warfare tactics. Its based on the assumption that the other side will not be able to launch a full fledged response because of alleged laws.
If they do launch a full fledged response, leftists and activists will try to shut it down. In case of Israel, Muslims in western countries also help in this regard.
What i don't understand is, how Israel's war and its collateral damage is any different to what NATO did in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Srilanka launched a full blown retaliation to LTTE attacks and finished them. They taught the world a lesson.
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Who is saying it’s different, I have said what Russia did in Ukraine is equally worse, so is what NATO did esp in IRAQ.
I know you supported Russian invasion as well, I maintain that NATO and Israel and Russia are all aggressors..
Israel is also trying to grab the land, also refuses two state solution, which bTW India has voted for.
There is a reason why they are against two state.
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Ofcourse Israel is trying to get as much territory but you can't discount the fact that the Hamas terrorist attacks gave Israel this opportunity.
I am afraid, more and more countries will now resort to full fledged retaliation to a terror attacks.
No use blaming Israel today, when no one could stop NATO or even Russia.
Atleast India's response to all these events is nearly the same.
Absolutely Well Said!!!
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The majority of the global south stands firmly against genocide, juxtaposed with a contingent of Hindu bigots.
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What is this global south? Who is its elected leader?
And why is India expected to follow them?
Did India follow Europe and NATO on Russia? No.
We do our own thing. Surprised how pakistanis have failed to realise this.
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Russia is having issues which will come out in 10 years, wait for it.
People are just bringing awareness to what Israel is doing, blaming Israel is such a soft word, I’m literally saying they should be sanctioned but they wont be, only countries which are capable will retaliate and those are very few.
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There is a distinction between individuals who hold bigoted views and those who earnestly practice their religious beliefs. Among Christians, Jews, and Muslims, there exist both devout practitioners and individuals who espouse bigoted ideologies, such as Zionism among some Jews.
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Nelson Mandela: "Choose peace rather than confrontation, except in case where we cannot move forward. Then, if the only alternative is violence, we will use violence."
If Nelson Mandela were a Muslim, certain supporters of the BJP cult would likely denounce him as a terrorist while he fought for liberty against Apartheid South Africa.
The irony lies in Israel being among the scant few countries supported apartheid in South Africa, understanding that Israeli society is founded on similar principles, with the intention to expel the local inhabitants with Zionist settler colonists, known as 'the chosen people'. Additionally, alongside the typical settler colonists, the Indian population appears to be one of the few groups attempting to rationalize genocide. This appears to be a strategic maneuver to justify their aspirations of reclaiming India solely as a Hindu rashtra.
Once again, the majority of the global south finds itself on the right side of history, except for genocide apologists from India. It is imperative to note that the official stance of the Indian government is a two-state solution, despite the subset of Indians who cannot resist justifying and finding excuses to legitimize the genocide in Gaza.
If today's Bhagat Singh were a Muslim, these same apologists would undoubtedly label him a terrorist to justify genocide against any Muslim group anywhere.
The pursuit of liberty is the inherent right of every human on this planet, even if it means opposing those considered 'God's chosen people.'
If Nelson Mandela were a Muslim, certain supporters of the BJP cult would likely denounce him as a terrorist while he fought for liberty against Apartheid South Africa.
The irony lies in Israel being among the scant few countries supported apartheid in South Africa, understanding that Israeli society is founded on similar principles, with the intention to expel the local inhabitants with Zionist settler colonists, known as 'the chosen people'. Additionally, alongside the typical settler colonists, the Indian population appears to be one of the few groups attempting to rationalize genocide. This appears to be a strategic maneuver to justify their aspirations of reclaiming India solely as a Hindu rashtra.
Once again, the majority of the global south finds itself on the right side of history, except for genocide apologists from India. It is imperative to note that the official stance of the Indian government is a two-state solution, despite the subset of Indians who cannot resist justifying and finding excuses to legitimize the genocide in Gaza.
If today's Bhagat Singh were a Muslim, these same apologists would undoubtedly label him a terrorist to justify genocide against any Muslim group anywhere.
The pursuit of liberty is the inherent right of every human on this planet, even if it means opposing those considered 'God's chosen people.'
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Nations which use assymetric warfare tactics do so because they don't have the military capability to fight wars against more powerful coalitions. The alternative which you admire is genocide of the weaker parties until only the victors remain standing.
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Remember Imran Khan's response on that issue as PM when he was asked about it in an interview?
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