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Why is Asad Shafiq given the golden boy treatment in ODIs?

Seen this guy throw his wicket away SO many times but he doesn't get labelled as a 'hack'.

Seems only Umar Akmal's poor shots get remembered.
 
Shafiq has had enough oppurtunities in ODI's to prove himself. Enough is enough and please move on from the mediocre weak batsman.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Seen this guy throw his wicket away SO many times but he doesn't get labelled as a 'hack'.

Seems only Umar Akmal's poor shots get remembered.
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Maybe because Umar throws his wicket over and over again.

Stop being such an Umar Akmal fanboy.

People like you wish that Umar succeeds, and even wish that the team loses if Umar does not play, and also you people wish that Umar's replacements do not do well.

You do not deserve to be called a supporter of Pakistan you are a supporter of Umar Akmal and Umar Akmal only.
 
OP does not understand what is the meaning of golden boy treatment in ODIs.

A Golden boy does not get dropped on his first failure. And this has happened number of times in Asad Shafiq's case as pointed by W63L35. So Asad Shafiq is not getting a golden boy treatment in ODIs. Far from it.

A Golden boy treatment means you continue to fail and still continue to play even if that means you replace the best batsman of the team. Now this has happened in case of Shoaib Malik who has continued to fail yet he continues to play and have replaced Pakistan's best ODI batsman Umar Akmal in the team. So Shoaib Malik is getting a golden boy treatment in ODIs. Hopefully this has end.
 
Can someone track down inzi and moyo and Anwars records after 41 games?
 
Shafiq has a lot of guts.

I want Shafiq to be the Wicket Keeper and Captain of the ODI team.
 
 
This WI tour should be his last chance, 30 innings vs non minnows and an average of 28 doesn't cut it at all
 
IMran Farhat also got a run like Asad Shafiq. Played a few games and was dropped. Came back to play a few more and was dropped again. He actually has better ODI stats than Shafiq....
 
Billu_Barber said:
IMran Farhat also got a run like Asad Shafiq. Played a few games and was dropped. Came back to play a few more and was dropped again. He actually has better ODI stats than Shafiq....
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Average of 30 vs Non minnows after 45 odd innings, that makes the cut for you ?
 
Shafiq has been a disappointment as he looked promising in his debut innings where he played with freedom!
 
Golden duck.

SD was saying before the game that he should be in the side, because he's a "fighter."
 
Shahzad's 2 centuries are against WI and NZ.

But this thread is about Asad Shafiq, and the fact is that he doesn't deserve a spot in the XI anymore, because of consistent failures, simple.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Don't care. Shahzad has 2 tons. Shafiq has 0.

Say no more.
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So going by that Shafiq is a superior batsman to Umer Akmal. Shafiq has 3 tons in his international career and Akmal only has 2,

Anyways so today Jamshed, Hafeez, Shafiq and Shehzad all failed. But guess who is the only one being bashed?.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Shafiq's highest scores are against Zim & Ireland.

He's a pathetic useless cricketer who will torment PAK fans.
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A pathetic cricketer who just scored a test ton against South AFrica. Asad might not be the best batsman in LO cricket but he is one of our best young test batsman. So to call him pathetic just shows your pathetic mindset.
 
iHammad said:
Shahzad's 2 centuries are against WI and NZ.

But this thread is about Asad Shafiq, and the fact is that he doesn't deserve a spot in the XI anymore, because of consistent failures, simple.
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I'd like him to be given a full series to prove himself. Rather than be consistently dropped after 1-2 games, give him a run for this entire series. We've given Malik/Farhat/Kami that chance, so why can't we give this guy that when he's shown he has that potential in Tests? Surely a guy that's been incredible for us in Tests can't be this bad in ODIs. Surely.

W3L pulled up a wonderful stat where it showed that Shafiq hasn't had a run of 5 games in a row (I think). I genuinely believe this is a confidence issue and he should be persisted with for at least this series.
 
Professor said:
So going by that Shafiq is a superior batsman to Umer Akmal. Shafiq has 3 tons in his international career and Akmal only has 2,

Anyways so today Jamshed, Hafeez, Shafiq and Shehzad all failed. But guess who is the only one being bashed?.
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We're talking about ODI cricket.

Umar has 1 ton, Shafiq 0.

Also Jamshed was not out.

Shahzad come back game, understandable.

Hafeez playing for years. Poor stroke useless.

Shafiq - even more useless than Hafeez
 
Shafiq holds one of the spots that is still open. .

I think he should be given a longer run.
 
W63L35 said:
...and he was also properly dropped each time he got those proper chances....and properly scoring those 50s over 50s!!! Correct?

Those 50s must have been very improper! What do you say ...shah jee?

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Bumped. Once again, W63 proving my point.

Just give him a consistent run.

17 4 stumped 1 W Asia Cup 5 v BD in SL 2010 at Dambulla (d/n) [2998]
19 7 bowled 2 L NatWest 1 v Eng in Eng 2010 at Chester-le-Street [3043]
50 4 caught 1 L NatWest 2 v Eng in Eng 2010 at Leeds [3044]
40 3 caught 1 W NatWest 3 v Eng in Eng 2010 at The Oval (d/n) [3045]
11 3 bowled 1 W NatWest 4 v Eng in Eng 2010 at Lord's (d/n) [3046]
0 3 caught wk 2 L NatWest 5 v Eng in Eng 2010 at Southampton (d/n) [3047]
19 1 caught 1 L 1st ODI v SA in UAE 2010/11 at Abu Dhabi (d/n) [3062]
1 1 caught 2 W 2nd ODI v SA in UAE 2010/11 at Abu Dhabi (d/n) [3063]
43 4 run out 2 L 3rd ODI v SA in UAE 2010/11 at Dubai (DSC) (d/n) [3064]
36 4 run out 2 W 4th ODI v SA in UAE 2010/11 at Dubai (DSC) (d/n) [3067]
DNP - L 5th ODI v SA in UAE 2010/11 at Dubai (DSC) [3069]
4 4 lbw 1 L 1st ODI v NZ in NZ 2010/11 at Wellington (d/n) [3085]
DNP - N 2nd ODI v NZ in NZ 2010/11 at Queenstown [3088]
DNP - W 3rd ODI v NZ in NZ 2010/11 at Christchurch [3090]
DNP - W 4th ODI v NZ in NZ 2010/11 at Napier [3093]
DNP - W 5th ODI v NZ in NZ 2010/11 at Hamilton [3095]
26 5 run out 2 L 6th ODI v NZ in NZ 2010/11 at Auckland [3097]
DNP - W World Cup 6 v Ken in SL 2010/11 at Hambantota [3105]
DNP - W World Cup 10 v SL in SL 2010/11 at Colombo (RPS) [3109]
DNP - W World Cup 17 v Can in SL 2010/11 at Colombo (RPS) [3116]
DNP - L World Cup 24 v NZ in SL 2010/11 at Pallekele [3123]
78* 3 not out 2 W World Cup 33 v Zim in SL 2010/11 at Pallekele (d/n) [3132]
46 3 caught 2 W World Cup 40 v Aus in SL 2010/11 at Colombo (RPS) (d/n) [3139]
DNB - - 2 W World Cup QF v WI in BD 2010/11 at Dhaka (d/n) [3142]
30 3 bowled 2 L World Cup SF v Ind in Ind 2010/11 at Mohali (d/n) [3147]
61* 3 not out 2 W 1st ODI v WI in WI 2011 at Gros Islet [3152]
23 3 run out 2 W 2nd ODI v WI in WI 2011 at Gros Islet [3153]
0 3 caught 2 W 3rd ODI v WI in WI 2011 at Bridgetown [3154]
71 3 caught 1 L 4th ODI v WI in WI 2011 at Bridgetown [3155]
DNP - L 5th ODI v WI in WI 2011 at Providence [3156]
4 3 caught wk 2 W 1st ODI v Ire in Ire 2011 at Belfast [3157]
DNP - W 2nd ODI v Ire in Ire 2011 at Belfast [3158]
DNP - W 1st ODI v Zim in Zim 2011 at Bulawayo [3188]
DNP - W 2nd ODI v Zim in Zim 2011 at Harare [3190]
51 3 stumped 1 W 3rd ODI v Zim in Zim 2011 at Harare [3194]
DNP - W 1st ODI v SL in UAE 2011/12 at Dubai (DSC) [3212]
DNP - L 2nd ODI v SL in UAE 2011/12 at Dubai (DSC) [3213]
DNP - W 3rd ODI v SL in UAE 2011/12 at Dubai (DSC) [3214]
DNP - W 4th ODI v SL in UAE 2011/12 at Sharjah [3215]
26 2 lbw 2 W 5th ODI v SL in UAE 2011/12 at Abu Dhabi (d/n) [3216]
DNP - W 1st ODI v BD in BD 2011/12 at Dhaka [3218]
DNP - W 2nd ODI v BD in BD 2011/12 at Dhaka [3220]
7 2 bowled 1 W 3rd ODI v BD in BD 2011/12 at Chittagong (d/n) [3222]
20 3 lbw 2 W Only ODI v in UAE 2011/12 at Sharjah (d/n) [3236]
0 3 lbw 2 L 1st ODI v Eng in UAE 2011/12 at Abu Dhabi (d/n) [3238]
DNP - L 2nd ODI v Eng in UAE 2011/12 at Abu Dhabi [3240]
18 4 run out 1 L 3rd ODI v Eng in UAE 2011/12 at Dubai (DSC) (d/n) [3243]
65 3 bowled 1 L 4th ODI v Eng in UAE 2011/12 at Dubai (DSC) (d/n) [3247]
4 5 caught 1 W Asia Cup 1 v BD in BD 2011/12 at Dhaka (d/n) [3258]
DNP - W Asia Cup 3 v SL in BD 2011/12 at Dhaka [3260]
DNP - L Asia Cup 5 v Ind in BD 2011/12 at Dhaka [3263]
DNP - W Asia Cup F v BD in BD 2011/12 at Dhaka [3267]
DNP - W 1st ODI v SL in SL 2012 at Pallekele [3272]
DNP - L 2nd ODI v SL in SL 2012 at Pallekele [3273]
5* 3 not out 1 N 3rd ODI v SL in SL 2012 at Colombo (RPS) (d/n) [3274]
25 3 lbw 2 L 4th ODI v SL in SL 2012 at Colombo (RPS) (d/n) [3275]
38 4 run out 1 L 5th ODI v SL in SL 2012 at Colombo (RPS) (d/n) [3277]
56 4 bowled 1 L 1st ODI v Aus in UAE 2012 at Sharjah (d/n) [3299]
9 4 bowled 2 W 2nd ODI v Aus in UAE 2012 at Abu Dhabi (d/n) [3301]
27 4 caught 1 L 3rd ODI v Aus in UAE 2012 at Sharjah (d/n) [3303]
DNP - W 1st ODI v Ind in Ind 2012/13 at Chennai [3314]
DNP - W 2nd ODI v Ind in Ind 2012/13 at Kolkata [3315]
DNP - L 3rd ODI v Ind in Ind 2012/13 at Delhi [3316]
5 4 caught 2 L 1st ODI v SA in SA 2012/13 at Bloemfontein [3343]
DNP - W 2nd ODI v SA in SA 2012/13 at Centurion [3346]
DNP - L 3rd ODI v SA in SA 2012/13 at Johannesburg [3347]
DNP - W 4th ODI v SA in SA 2012/13 at Durban [3348]
DNP - L 5th ODI v SA in SA 2012/13 at Benoni [3350]
9 4 bowled 1 W 1st ODI v Sco in Sco 2013 at Edinburgh [3356]
84 4 caught 1 T 1st ODI v Ire in Ire 2013 at Dublin [3357]
4 4 caught 2 W 2nd ODI v Ire in Ire 2013 at Dublin [3358]
0 4 caught 1 L ICC CT 2 v WI in Eng 2013 at The Oval [3364]
DNP - L ICC CT 5 v SA in Eng 2013 at Birmingham [3367]
41 4 caught wk 1 L ICC CT 10 v Ind in Eng 2013 at Birmingham [3372]
 
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Tees... Shafiq is a good test batsmen but he just isn't cut out for ODIs...
 
Kiwi said:
Tees... Shafiq is a good test batsmen but he just isn't cut out for ODIs...
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I think it might be the case but I simply want him to get 5 games in a row before we can make that judgement. When I first saw this guy, he looked amazing. I can't fathom how he's gotten this bad. It has to be confidence.
 
He is played over 40 matches, his stats don't lie.


He is mediocre in ODI , that remain a fact. A poor average and poor strike. He is bad in everything.
 
He should be kicked out for Good #Rubbish

Umar Amin and Harris Sohail are far better than this hack
 
Getting Harris Sohail over him.

Next match

Ahmed
Nasir
U Akmal
Haaris S
Misbah
 
Get Shafiq out. He does not have the temperament to stamp his authority on any match situation. He will remain those anonymous players who could seldom make an impact when needed. His body language is not impressive.
 
If there is no room for him in the top 4, he should be benched.
 
Play him at #3 or dont play him. He averages around 40 at #3 so I say play him the next 4 games at #3 and see if he performs. If he fails then terminate his ODI career permanently and never select him for ODIs ever again.
 
YK v2.0 in the making. I think he will continue to do well in Tests because of which he will continue to get chances in ODIs and before we know it, he would have played 200 ODIs with an average of 30 odd.

The problem is Shafiq (and YK before him) haven't been able to work out their method in ODIs when there is a field set to stop singles. They are good Test players with plenty of shots but they lack the ability to improvise and keep the scoreboard ticking. YK can at least do that against spinners and that is why he was a good number 6 in ODIs before some genius came up with the idea of moving him up to number 3 where Malik was doing very well. Both YK and Malik were never the same players again.

Asad is not an ODI player and should only be selected for tests. On the other hand, I think Azhar Ali can do well in ODIs as an opener where he can block one end like Misbah did today and allow the stroke makers to bat from the other end freely.
 
In the interest of proper balance in the team, players like Haris Sohail are better options than someone like Asad Shafiq who is clearly suited for Test cricket. I like him. He's a solid chap, but just not ODI material. At the end of the day you need to decide on the best top order lineup you can have and Asad Shafiq doesn't make the cut. I wouldn't dream of replacing him in the Test side though. Like Azhar Ali, he is a very good find for our Test team.
 
Some people are trying to hide his failures by pointing out the lack of a consistent run. Yes it is challenging but these guys are professionals and should be ready to step in any time the team needs them. It is not like that they are football players and suddenly are asked to play cricket.

He might get all the games here and should start to perform, otherwise make way for another player.
 
need to kick this guy out of odi team

Only for test

Haris and Amin are better than Asad
 
Agree. he's better suited to test cricket (cf. Azhar, does not belong in ODIs either) Asad has a sound technique but he's overrated by some here. He is not someone who can dominate good bowling attacks or consistently score runs against them. Asad has been given a fair chance imo. About time he starts scoring some runs
 
Shafiq has always been suspect to the ball outside off early on in his innings, so the dismissal wasn't surprising. What really is worrying me is his technical flaws which have creeped into his game over the last 6 months. He was alot more compact and technically sound batsman when he first came into the team.

We have invested to much time and effort to just discard him, i still think he still is a decent middle order player in all formats as long as he irons out his technical issues, rather then dropping him i rather see him still part of the squad and regain his form. Reminds me alot like Ian Bell (England always stick by him just for the simple fact of the time and effort they have invested in him)
 
I've always been supportive of him but in ODIs he really hasnt done anything worthy of notice. Should be dropped for Haris Sohail but should continue playing in tests
 
Ahson Afzal said:
I've always been supportive of him but in ODIs he really hasnt done anything worthy of notice. Should be dropped for Haris Sohail but should continue playing in tests
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almost every PP Member want Haris sohail to do debut
and Drop Asad from Odi cricket :)
 
He is definitely better at number 3 but hafeez after failing at the top has been again allowed to fail at number 3 hence takingthe natural batting position of asad shafiq. Check asads stats and you will know he is pretty good at 3. Team management needs to find roles for the batsmen.
 
simply cannot handle fast bowling first up, can only face the spinners.
 
Umar Akmal should ideally be batting at 3 or 4.

Nasir
Shezhad
Umar
Haris - lets see what all the hype is about
 
He can't handle fast bowling first up, but yet his best performances and average is at number 3.

Coincidence? no. Number 3 suits him and if he can't be accommodated at that position because of Mr. blessed in all facets guy, no point at all in playing him.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
He can't handle fast bowling first up, but yet his best performances and average is at number 3.

Coincidence? no. Number 3 suits him and if he can't be accommodated at that position because of Mr. blessed in all facets guy, no point at all in playing him.
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Against a few minnows? Every time I've seen him bat he has looked woeful... :facepalm:
 
Only BECAUSE he scored 41 against India in CT .

Just like how Afridi is quoted as a ODI great after 1 blip yestrday :D

Too bad India doesn't think like dat , considering sehwags ouster even after 219
 
Kiwi said:
Against a few minnows? Every time I've seen him bat he has looked woeful... :facepalm:
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He can't even score against non minnows else where so if you gotta play him, why don't you play him at the only position he is good at?
 
he was always made the scapegoat for a bloody senior... he is a very good number , but no chance given consecutively... before it was younis and now it is hafeez, why not let him bat at #3

pakistan need to understand their players potentials...

hafeez can be a good number 6 batsman ( for powerplay 3) shud be very productive

asad is a good number 3 (not given consistent chances one bad game he was dropped from the team)

Umar akmal very good at number 4 ( continously being neglected)
 
Averages 27 against top teams SR of 68 LOL

How the hell does he make it in to our team?
 
You all want him to bat at number 3 so I'll give you his stats at number 3.

You go on like he'll turn into Bradman at 3. Here we go:

He averages 34 SR of 68 against top teams at 3. Hardly world class.
 
Lol.. A Guy who can't handle a short Ball and Gets out most of the time trying to hook or Pull,... should be no where near the ODI'.. there is no point in peoples arguement about getting proper chances.. 40+ innings is more than enough to prove ones capability...... He is Not an ODI material.. for sure... Umar Amin Is Far faar better player than him ...
 
Pathetic from Misbah and Co, Shafiq still picked ahead of Amin in ODI's.

I have absolutely no problem in giving Youngsters a chance, but Shafiq is not performing in ODI Cricket at the moment and he certainly does not deserve to be in the Team ahead of Amin or even Haris.

Asad has been outstanding in Test Cricket, and alongside Azhar he has been an outstanding Test Batsman, but like Azhar he also does not know how to pace an ODI Innings and also does not know which shot to play and when to play it.

Misbah and Co should be sacked if Amin/Haris do not find a place in the side and Shafiq does.

I do not have anything against Shafiq, he can go back to Domestic LA cricket and perform and maybe comeback, but at the moment there are better options available.
 
Absolutely pathetic.
I agree a 100% with you.
He is apparently 'resting' Junaid Khan too.
 
ahmed778 said:
I have absolutely no problem in giving Youngsters a chance, but Shafiq is not performing in ODI Cricket at the moment and he certainly does not deserve to be in the Team ahead of Amin or even Haris.

Asad has been outstanding in Test Cricket, and alongside Azhar he has been an outstanding Test Batsman, but like Azhar he also does not know how to pace an ODI Innings and also does not know which shot to play and when to play it.

Misbah and Co should be sacked if Amin/Haris do not find a place in the side and Shafiq does.

I do not have anything against Shafiq, he can go back to Domestic LA cricket and perform and maybe comeback, but at the moment there are better options available.
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You'd think their averages were the other way around :yk
 
keeps giving his wicket away... don't remember him getting out to a good ball...
 
LOL

Poor Asad Shafiq, he need more chances :)

I can see a future Sachin in Asad Shafiq.
 
Kiwi said:
You'd think their averages were the other way around :yk
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Amin has been performing season after season, and has not done much wrong when he has played in ODI Cricket.

If he does not do well then you can replace him with Haris, but Amin has already played ODI matches and has done considerably well and should be the one to replace Shafiq.
Haris can come in if Amin fails, or he can replace Sir King "Blessed in all facets of the Game" Bradman Hafeez.
 
ahmed778 said:
Amin has been performing season after season, and has not done much wrong when he has played in ODI Cricket.

If he does not do well then you can replace him with Haris, but Amin has already played ODI matches and has done considerably well and should be the one to replace Shafiq.
Haris can come in if Amin fails, or he can replace Sir King "Blessed in all facets of the Game" Bradman Hafeez.
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What have you been watching?... :manzoor
 
ahmed778 said:
Considering the Situation and the pressure on the debutant, he did well.
And also consider the performance of the other Batsmen.
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It's not like the batsmen that played set really high standards :farhat :hafeez
 
Given the situation Amin didn't do bad in the ct and if misbah picked 11s by merit he would be there instead of shafiq. Having said that I reckon Haris is the far better prospect
 
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