Why Italians looks similar to Pakistanis?

[srh]

Why Italians looks similar to Pakistanis? Its hard to distinguish between them by the looks.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Many do.

Dark hair and light skinned like many Pakistanis.

Personalities are similar too, very emotional people, often over dramatic.

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

No, they don't. I don't know from where you get that

 

[PetroDollars]

Italians, spainish mexican, all look more pakistani then indians do.

 

[KingKhanWC]

No, they don't. I don't know from where you get that

Its a fair shout.

This man looks like a Pakistani, well I know many who are similar to him.

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

Its a fair shout.

This man looks like a Pakistani, well I know many who are similar to him.

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So? Thiago Alcantara looks Pakistani. Morata looks a lot like Punjabis. Same could be said about De Gea.

 

[guna]

Italians do not look like Pakistanis. May be some Pathans look like them.

Some Sicilians can look Arab as their ancestors mixed with Arab invaders.

 

[Giannis]

I don't think so but there is some over lap cause they're in southeastern europe so have some connection the middle east and by extension northwestern subcontinent. Donarumma for example does look more eastern.

 

[Giannis]

 

[big_gamer007]

Its a fair shout.

This man looks like a Pakistani, well I know many who are similar to him.

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Ya he definitely looks like Akmal's, babar, Harris etc etc Carbon copy

 

[KingKhanWC]

So? Thiago Alcantara looks Pakistani. Morata looks a lot like Punjabis. Same could be said about De Gea.

Thaigo looks more mixed race, he has a Brazlian background. Of course there are some similarities but overall Italians resemble Pakistanis. I've been asked if im Italian myself in London, was proud to say no British Pakistani.

 

[Rajdeep]

I have travelled in Italy extensively and no they dont look like Pakistanis at all...lol.

 

[Giannis]

Ya he definitely looks like Akmal's, babar, Harris etc etc Carbon copy

He looks more western Pakistani, the players you named are from the eastern areas

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

He looks more western Pakistani, the players you named are from the eastern areas

Which part of Western Pakistan? KPK? Balochistan? Klopp looks like my dad, does it mean Germans look similar to Pakistanis? This comparison does not make any sense.

 

[Giannis]

Which part of Western Pakistan? KPK? Balochistan? Klopp looks like my dad, does it mean Germans look similar to Pakistanis? This comparison does not make any sense.

The western parts in general. I don't agree with OP's general statement but there is some overlap at least more so than with the rest of Europe and it's mainly cause of Italy/Greece's history tied to Asia minor.

 

[big_gamer007]

He looks more western Pakistani, the players you named are from the eastern areas

I just found the thread funny so replied. Majority of the Pakistanis that I have seen on TV and met during travels look like the players I mentioned which is similar to how most Indians look.

There might be some Pakistanis or Indians who look like the player in the pic, that's about it.

 

[guna]

He looks more western Pakistani, the players you named are from the eastern areas

Afghans can look Italian. So Pashtuns in Pakistan can also look Italian. Punjabis and Sindhis look Indian.

 

[Giannis]

Afghans can look Italian. So Pashtuns in Pakistan can also look Italian. Punjabis and Sindhis look Indian.

Yeah in general Pakistani Pashtuns can look Italian and vice versa. Indians don't really have one look and Punjabis and Sindhis are pretty distinct in their own right or at least Bollywood tends to exotify Punjabis/Sindhis (I don't know why they do that).

 

[Local.Dada]

Ya he definitely looks like Akmal's, babar, Harris etc etc Carbon copy

I was thinking Sarfaraz

 

[Colorblind Genius]

I have travelled in Italy extensively and no they dont look like Pakistanis at all...lol.

But you haven't "travelled in Pakistan extensively" so you wouldn't know.

But yeah I agree, OP is a joke.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I have travelled in Italy extensively and no they dont look like Pakistanis at all...lol.

Lol exact same. I mean there are some minor resemblances but you can find that anywhere. Im not too dark skinned and had an Italian style beard but never in Italy did anyone mistake me for a Pakistani nor did I mistake anyone for a Pakistani and ive visted pretty much all of the major areas.

Post a line-up of our cricket team vs their football team and it will be like comparing apples with oranges.

Its a strange thread.

 

[SangasCoverDrive]

Do Chinese look like Pakistanis? yeah because we have a race here which is direct descendant of Genghis Khan, The same race to which our beloved PM called blackmailers. Do Pakistaanis look like East Africans? yes there is an Afro Pakistani community in Pakistan called Siddis, check Shahid Qambrani. This thread does not make any sense.

 

[srh]

Many do.

Dark hair and light skinned like many Pakistanis.

Personalities are similar too, very emotional people, often over dramatic.

Very strange. The resemblance is uncanny. And its more of a wholesome match instead of just Pakistanis of only one part of Pakistan (the north & west area). Lot of Italians also look like Pakistanis of south and east part.

 

[mazkhan]

I think north and west pakistanis look more like iranians.

Most pakistanis look nothing like italians , italians clearly look European whilst us pakistanis are clearly indian or middle Eastern in appearance.

 

[Giannis]

Since Pakistanis and Indians have the same race for most of the part, I’d say Mexicans, Latin Americans and Fijians

Well scientifically we're all part of the human race - we all share 99.9% of the same genes so race is a social construct but in terms of "historical race" or races that anthropologists categorized, most South Asians are part of the Caucasian race that spans from Iceland all the way to Sri Lanka as the races were determined by skull shape in most anthropological works.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Pakistanis come in all skin colors. Light skin Pakistanis can look like tanned Southern Europeans. However the lighter shade Pakistanis are a minority of the population. And the tanned Southern Europeans are also a minority.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

relax Idk why indians are getting triggered If this thread asked why Pakistanis resembled Nigerians then not a single indian would be triggered y'all get mad if the comparison is with a european/middle eastern ethnicity and we all know why

I dont think they like that some Pakistanis dont think they look like Indians. And that Pakistanis claim that they can differentiate in looks who is a Indian and who is a Pakistani.

 

[Giannis]

I dont think they like that some Pakistanis dont think they look like Indians. And that Pakistanis claim that they can differentiate in looks who is a Indian and who is a Pakistani.

It's ironic cause Indians claim they can differentiate other Indians from other states by appearance but apparently variation ends the moment you cross the Radcliffe line.

 

[street cricketer]

I'm curious. Why Italy? And why not say Spain or Greece. I've always heard Pakistanis say they have a middle eastern look here, this is the first time I'm reading about the 'Italian look'. That's a decent jump from middle east to southern Europe.

P.S.: There is no 'Pakistani' or an 'Indian' look. The subcontinent is a collective of various subnationalities, each of which have their own look. The Punjabi, Pashtun, the Baloch, the Sindhi, the Bengali, the Bihari, the Tamil, the Marathi, the Mizo/Naga and the Sikkimese have their own distinct looks even if there might be some overlap between ethnicities. India and Pakistan are a political collective, not a racial collective.

 

[El Generico]

I guess it depends on the region, Pakistanis are pretty diverse in terms of looks.

On a side note, it is hilarious how triggered some Indians have gotten. Would you guys still be mad if the thread that said Pakistanis look similar to Somalians?

Get over the skin colour thing guys even if some Pakistanis look Italian, it dosent make them better or worse than anyone.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

I'm curious. Why Italy? And why not say Spain or Greece. I've always heard Pakistanis say they have a middle eastern look here, this is the first time I'm reading about the 'Italian look'. That's a decent jump from middle east to southern Europe.

P.S.: There is no 'Pakistani' or an 'Indian' look. The subcontinent is a collective of various subnationalities, each of which have their own look. The Punjabi, Pashtun, the Baloch, the Sindhi, the Bengali, the Bihari, the Tamil, the Marathi, the Mizo/Naga and the Sikkimese have their own distinct looks even if there might be some overlap between ethnicities. India and Pakistan are a political collective, not a racial collective.

Not only is their no Pakistani or Indian look, those ethnicities also dont have their own look. They can come in many different shades of color, at least in Pakistan. They can range from Southern European to Sub Sahara Black. However the majority fall somewhere in between those two ranges.

 

[Giannis]

I'm curious. Why Italy? And why not say Spain or Greece. I've always heard Pakistanis say they have a middle eastern look here, this is the first time I'm reading about the 'Italian look'. That's a decent jump from middle east to southern Europe.

P.S.: There is no 'Pakistani' or an 'Indian' look. The subcontinent is a collective of various subnationalities, each of which have their own look. The Punjabi, Pashtun, the Baloch, the Sindhi, the Bengali, the Bihari, the Tamil, the Marathi, the Mizo/Naga and the Sikkimese have their own distinct looks even if there might be some overlap between ethnicities. India and Pakistan are a political collective, not a racial collective.

Well said.

I think OP thought of that because of the recent Italy-Spain match.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

I guess it depends on the region, Pakistanis are pretty diverse in terms of looks.

On a side note, it is hilarious how triggered some Indians have gotten. Would you guys still be mad if the thread that said Pakistanis look similar to Somalians?

Get over the skin colour thing guys even if some Pakistanis look Italian, it dosent make them better or worse than anyone.

Its strange as some Indians also can pass as Southern Europeans. Obviously it would be a minority of both Indians and Pakistanis who can pass as Southern Europeans, but the subcontinent has so much range in skin color that it should not be surprising.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

A Spanish friend of mine is often mistaken as a Punjabi. Many times he enters in a Pakistani convenience store and the Pakistani shopkeepers start talking to him in Panjabi.

It's hilarious.

These days he has developed a complete story, he tells them he can't speak Punjabi/Urdu but his father is Pakistani who left him and went back to Pakistan

Some Andalusians and Mallorquins look like an average Punjabi.

 

[street cricketer]

Not only is their no Pakistani or Indian look, those ethnicities also dont have their own look. They can come in many different shades of color, at least in Pakistan. They can range from Southern European to Sub Sahara Black. However the majority fall somewhere in between those two ranges.

To be fair, I can differentiate the average Pashtun guy from the average Punjabi guy, key word being average. I know there are Pashtuns who have a darker complexion and there are Punjabis who are light skinned like Europeans, but it's not that difficult to differentiate the average Pashtun and the average Punjabi guy tbh. It's hard for me to differentiate the Sindhi and the Punjabis though.

 

[dildilpak]

A Spanish friend of mine is often mistaken as a Punjabi. Many times he enters in a Pakistani convenience store and the Pakistani shopkeepers start talking to him in Panjabi.

It's hilarious.

These days he has developed a complete story, he tells them he can't speak Punjabi/Urdu but his father is Pakistani who left him and went back to Pakistan

Some Andalusians and Mallorquins look like an average Punjabi.

I have a Spanish friend too who looks like a Pakistani, probably even more than me!

Though it’s not a surprise, the Indo-European races are kinda mixed up. I was reading an interesting article a few months back wherein they mentioned that the Romany gypsies actually have migrated from Northern India/ Pakistan. Add to the mix that the Germans trace their ancestry to the ancient Aryans, it could be possible that the Italians & Pakistanis have same ancestors.

 

[Giannis]

To be fair, I can differentiate the average Pashtun guy from the average Punjabi guy, key word being average. I know there are Pashtuns who have a darker complexion and there are Punjabis who are light skinned like Europeans, but it's not that difficult to differentiate the average Pashtun and the average Punjabi guy tbh. It's hard for me to differentiate the Sindhi and the Punjabis though.

Locals have a better eye at discerning differences, like I can't tell the difference between a Tamil and a Telugu person but I have south indian friends that swear they can tell the difference.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

To be fair, I can differentiate the average Pashtun guy from the average Punjabi guy, key word being average. I know there are Pashtuns who have a darker complexion and there are Punjabis who are light skinned like Europeans, but it's not that difficult to differentiate the average Pashtun and the average Punjabi guy tbh. It's hard for me to differentiate the Sindhi and the Punjabis though.

I think in India the Punjabi and Sindhis are on average lighter skin. However in Pakistan their is no average Punjabi or Sindhi look. Their are many who if you would see them, not only would you not think they are Punjabi/Sindhi, you would probably think they look darker than the average North Indian. On the other hand their are many (talking about millions) Kashmirs, Pashtun and Baloch who have settled in Punjab, so some Punjabi have a very fair complexion.

Pashtuns on average are mostly light skin, however it would be much harder to have an average Baloch look. Many Baloch are light skin like Persian, which makes sense since they are also speak an Iranian language, however many many are dark skin as they have mixed with Africans.

 

[Giannis]

Speaking of similarities lol, I remember a long time back cricinfo used have a doppelganger page and they believed Muhammad Asif and Gianluigi Buffon were doppelgangers lol, there is an uncanny resemblance.

They also suggested Yasir Shah and Messi

And Salman Butt and Fabregas - although imo they don't look that similar but the other two I can see

 

[rockyboy2018]

Why Pakistanis look like Spanish. When I was at the Madrid airport and all local airport staff and Mexicans departing for Mexico were trying to speak with me in Spanish. There was one Spanish woman who needed help and she was like going full throttle in Spanish to me.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's Sicily where Italians can be a bit darker, as already mentioned that is because they have mixed Arab ancestry. Not sure how big a percentage of Italians are Sicilian though, the rest of Italy is probably predominantly white.

 

[mazkhan]

Cesc fabregas could pass of as a turk , north african or levant arab, kurdish , iraqi

 

[Darkrai]

An American once asked me if I was Italian. So i guess there is something.

 

[NishanKonar]

Mexicans & mixed race Brazilians look closest to Indians / Pakistanis

There are lot of Brazilian dancers who work in Bollywood with fake Indian names. In fact few years back the lead role of a Bollywood movie was played by a Brazilian lady - most people never realized at that time that the girl was not Indian

 

[Colorblind Genius]

An American once asked me if I was Italian. So i guess there is something.

And what defines an "American"?

 

[Darkrai]

And what defines an "American"?

I'm referring to a white person born in the United States of America.

 

[Stewie]

De Niro, al Pacino, Sylvester Stallone, they could all pass for Pakistanis.

We had our own Rambo movie star back in the day. I don’t know where the similarity comes from though honestly.

 

[ElRaja]

pathans look balkan, south european. rest of pakistanis only if their light skin. would be more accurate to say some pakistanis look similar to some italians.

gennaro gattuso in a shalwar kameez walking in peshawer, no one would raise an eyebrow.

 

[Giannis]

pathans look balkan, south european. rest of pakistanis only if their light skin. would be more accurate to say some pakistanis look similar to some italians.

gennaro gattuso in a shalwar kameez walking in peshawer, no one would raise an eyebrow.

it's not about light skin, more about the face structure, if you look at my post above some say Muhammad Asif resembles Buffon even though no one would say Asif is light skinned. Also not everyone in northern Pakistan is Pashtun, there are so many other ethnic groups especially in Gilgit Baltistan.

Check this vlog out, the vlogger is Italian-American and he travelled all across Pakistan - this particular video is from Gilgit and he's stunned by the diversity of the people

 

[ElRaja]

it's not about light skin, more about the face structure, if you look at my post above some say Muhammad Asif resembles Buffon even though no one would say Asif is light skinned. Also not everyone in northern Pakistan is Pashtun, there are so many other ethnic groups especially in Gilgit Baltistan.

Check this vlog out, the vlogger is Italian-American and he travelled all across Pakistan - this particular video is from Gilgit and he's stunned by the diversity of the people

buffon is one guy, asif is one guy, ive been to italy and some look pakistani, but then u could say some look persian or north african too... im pretty sure you could find people from all over eurasia who look similar in different countries.

i know the diversity in pakistan is huge, geographically the country straddles three distinct areas so its not surprising. if intermarriage was more common between ethnic groups, id suspect pakistanis would look even more diverse.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Why Italians looks similar to Pakistanis? Its hard to distinguish between them by the looks.

I dont about this one, last I checked Javed Miandad, Pervez Musharaff, Shoib Akhtar, Mohammad Yousuf, Rashid Latif dont look Italian.

Guys like Imran, Shahid Afridi's etc I would say is in the minority, the entire Pakistani population don't look like them..

 

[Stewie]

I dont about this one, last I checked Javed Miandad, Pervez Musharaff, Shoib Akhtar, Mohammad Yousuf, Rashid Latif dont look Italian.

Guys like Imran, Shahid Afridi's etc I would say is in the minority, the entire Pakistani population don't look like them..

The Italians are a very diverse race and not all of them are fair skinned. We are comparing those here who are more on the brownish side. And there are plenty such Italians.

 

[El Generico]

I dont about this one, last I checked Javed Miandad, Pervez Musharaff, Shoib Akhtar, Mohammad Yousuf, Rashid Latif dont look Italian.

Guys like Imran, Shahid Afridi's etc I would say is in the minority, the entire Pakistani population don't look like them..

TBH Musharraf can probably pass for Italian. Like the poster above said, not all Italians are light skinned, some look pretty brown.

Just look at the current Italian soccer team, there is a few guys in the squad who wouldn't really stick out and would blend in with the locals in certain parts of Pakistan or India.

 

[Saurav]

Its a fair shout.

This man looks like a Pakistani, well I know many who are similar to him.

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And swiss look like Indians

 

[Local.Dada]

And swiss look like Indians

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I kid you not but my old building watchman in India looks exactly like a tanned and brown version of former US President George Bush jr. Some American resemblances too unless George Bush ancestors happen to be from Italy and my building watchman ancestors happen to be from Pakistan.

 

[Stewie]

At the end of the day, we are all children of Adam and Eve, so why does it surprise anyone there are similarities between distant nations?

Some Pakistanis pass for Africans too.. we are a diverse nation..

 

[IAJ]

What is the real issue here?

1. Pakistans see Italians as handsome people and want to look like them?

2. Some Indians got jealous of the comparison and throw out some random names to kill OP’s point.

There are all kinds of people in every country. A couple of good looking italian fotballers don’t represent the looks of all Italians. In Italy, like any country, be it Pakistan or India you will see many people like Chiellini and you will see many like Maldini. In the end it’s the inner beauty which counts.

 

[Poseidon]

Italy is the country which is very friendly to Pakistanis after China and Turkey.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

I wouldn’t day the average Italian does but why are Indians so triggered here lol.

 

[Romali_rotti]

What is the real issue here?

1. Pakistans see Italians as handsome people and want to look like them?

2. Some Indians got jealous of the comparison and throw out some random names to kill OP’s point.

There are all kinds of people in every country. A couple of good looking italian fotballers don’t represent the looks of all Italians. In Italy, like any country, be it Pakistan or India you will see many people like Chiellini and you will see many like Maldini. In the end it’s the inner beauty which counts.

Jealous ? Oh dear, you couldn't be further from the truth, it seems some of you Pakistanis are sensitive when told you don't look like Italians in general..

Had the OP placed the title why 'some' Pakistanis look like Italians it would have made more sense. It's like saying why do Indians look like Europeans and when ppl comment on how ridiculous that comparison is, the Indians bring in someone like Hrithik Roshan into the picture to make a point, makes little sense..

 

[Giannis]

And swiss look like Indians

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Arbaaz Khan is of Pashtun origin, barely 0.000001% of Indians are Pashtuns but yes there some Indians that can pass as Italian

 

[IAJ]

Jealous ? Oh dear, you couldn't be further from the truth, it seems some of you Pakistanis are sensitive when told you don't look like Italians in general..

Had the OP placed the title why 'some' Pakistanis look like Italians it would have made more sense. It's like saying why do Indians look like Europeans and when ppl comment on how ridiculous that comparison is, the Indians bring in someone like Hrithik Roshan into the picture to make a point, makes little sense..

Lol, why are you getting touchy? My posts were against both the OP and the reactions from you guys. I said that pakistanis want to be compared with Italians as they think theyare good looking. Some fotballers don’t represent the entire population. There are all kinds of people.

If a random person from Chile knows Indians only through Bollywood he can not just say Indians look like Chileans. That sound stupid right? Same way OP sounds stupid, and reactions of some of the insecure Indians here are more stupid.

 

[street cricketer]

Lol, why are you getting touchy? My posts were against both the OP and the reactions from you guys. I said that pakistanis want to be compared with Italians as they think theyare good looking. Some fotballers don’t represent the entire population. There are all kinds of people.

If a random person from Chile knows Indians only through Bollywood he can not just say Indians look like Chileans. That sound stupid right? Same way OP sounds stupid, and reactions of some of the insecure Indians here are more stupid.

None of the Indians here are "insecure". It's just an amusing thread is all. Pakistanis are on average a shade lighter than Indians on average and I don't think anybody is denying that. Indians don't look similar to anyone, Indians just look like Indians with a lot of distinct looks for each ethnic group.

But in my time here, I've seen Pakistanis say they look similar to Arabs, Iranians, Latinos, Turks and now Italians. I wouldn't be surprised if someone says Pakistanis look similar to Scots or Norwegians next. Basically I've seen Pakistanis say they look similar to every other people west of Pakistan other than Pakistanis themselves. That if anything is insecurity, there seems to be a lack of a proper definition of what really a "Pakistani" identity is and that probably makes some Pakistanis take pride in things that are not rooted to the region that's Pakistan but elsewhere.

This probably stands out to me because I'm a Tamil, who are known to be notoriously proud and chauvinistic about their culture and language. If someone said my roots are from anywhere except Tamil, I would be devastated like most other Tamils. I remember once I found a book on the people of my particular caste and when we were discussing it, my parents remarked that there is a small chance that our ancestors might be actually Tulu rather than Tamil and I remember feeling down, even though it's silly. Like Tamils, most other Indian ethnic groups search for their roots in their own region, taking pride in it, but with Pakistanis, it appears to be opposite and they seem to search for their roots from everywhere but Pakistan. There seems to be a lack of pride on having roots truly in Pakistan but more from elsewhere like west asia or even Europe. I don't know if it's to dissociate themselves far from Indians or the Indian identity to strengthen the two nation theory on which Pakistan was created. The "Pakistani" identity is a relatively new one that's around 70 years old but it's old enough to form a distinct identity in itself like the Bangladeshis seem to have managed than search for identities outside of Pakistan.

 

[Giannis]

None of the Indians here are "insecure". It's just an amusing thread is all. Pakistanis are on average a shade lighter than Indians on average and I don't think anybody is denying that. Indians don't look similar to anyone, Indians just look like Indians with a lot of distinct looks for each ethnic group.

I've seen numerous threads all over the internet on various sites where Indians have compared to themselves to almost every Europeak & middle eastern ethnicity imaginable so I don't know why you're acting all insecure if one Pakistani or even a few are of the opinions that they may resemble ethnicities to the west of them.

But in my time here, I've seen Pakistanis say they look similar to Arabs, Iranians, Latinos, Turks and now Italians. I wouldn't be surprised if someone says Pakistanis look similar to Scots or Norwegians next. Basically I've seen Pakistanis say they look similar to every other people west of Pakistan other than Pakistanis themselves. That if anything is insecurity, there seems to be a lack of a proper definition of what really a "Pakistani" identity is and that probably makes some Pakistanis take pride in things that are not rooted to the region that's Pakistan but elsewhere.

You don't know what the word identity means and neither were you able to comprehend a word that the OP said. The OP and nor has any Pakistani said we aren't proud Pakistanis and that we're "not Pakistanis" Saying your nationality/ethnicity resembles another doesn't mean that you identify as the ethnicity, this isn't about "identity" something you people always harp on about on Pakistani forums even if they zero relevance to the subject. I don't know if you're new to the internet but there are numerous comparisons between ethnic groups and a supposed similairities (based off looks) and it isn't just Pakistanis, but Arabs, Persians, Latinos, Filipinos, Indians and every single ethnicity in the world. There several thousands of internets posts, Tiktok videos, youtube videos, etc asking why do Indians "look latino, spanish, greek, persian" etc. it's literally so common in America to see Indian girls and even guys brag about being mistaken for any white ethnicity other than Indian, perhaps you've never left India or you're of the older generation so aren't in the loop with social media.

This probably stands out to me because I'm a Tamil, who are known to be notoriously proud and chauvinistic about their culture and language.

To you guys, most Pakistanis have never heard of Tamil and here in America neither do most people know you guys exist let along claims of Tamils being "notorious for being proud and chauvinistic" - literally every ethnicity says that, I know Punjabis and Sindhis from Pakistan that are just as chauvinistic but I wouldn't expect you to know the specifics since you're not from Pakistan. You're a South Indian so wouldn't know anything about a country over a thousand miles away. Also it's funny you claim "Tamils are the proudest people" when the Tamil film industry from I've heard only casts fair skinned actors and a lot of the actresses are from north india

https://www.idiva.com/entertainment...-rule-the-south-indian-film-industry/17013173

If someone said my roots are from anywhere except Tamil, I would be devastated like most other Tamils. I remember once I found a book on the people of my particular caste and when we were discussing it, my parents remarked that there is a small chance that our ancestors might be actually Tulu rather than Tamil and I remember feeling down, even though it's silly.

I don't know or care what the difference is but if you're so proud of being Tamil then you would've supported your Tamil brethren in Sri Lanka and carved out an Independent Tamil country for yourselves.

Like Tamils, most other Indian ethnic groups search for their roots in their own region, taking pride in

It's the same with most Pakistanis, if anything Indians still have the Hindu caste system where you guys take pride in being Aryans and claim your roots lie outside south asia, even in south india you guys have so called "brahmins" that discriminate against other south indians despite being the same color just cause they may have some distant foreign ancestry,

it, but with Pakistanis, it appears to be opposite and they seem to search for their roots from everywhere but Pakistan. There seems to be a lack of pride on having roots truly in Pakistan but more from elsewhere like west asia or even Europe.

Based off what? Your comment makes no sense. Saying we possibly resemble other Indo-European ethnic groups doesn't mean we aren't proud Pakistanis, this thread isn't even about identity - we're not identifying as Italian or Tamil or whatever, you really need to work on your comprehension instead of projecting your insecurities.

I don't know if it's to dissociate themselves far from Indians or the Indian identity to strengthen the two nation theory on which Pakistan was created.

There are so many Indians that claim they look mexican or afghan, I've seen it all over the internet and in person so based off my experience I could claim Indians have an identity crisis and don't want associate with south asia Bollywood is notorious for being colorist and whitewashing Indians, most of your actors are from minority communities or have foreign ancestry. Pakistanis don't need to "distance" ourselves from an "Indian identity" - we aren't Indians, we literally have our own country if that isn't obvious to you What even is an Indian identity - it's a country home to thousands of ethnic groups or should I say nations and in the historical and ethnographical sense you as a Tamil aren't even Indian if you really want to get specific, Tamils are part of the Dravidian race, they were never part of most empires that ruled over south asia neither are you guys Indo-Aryans so it's funny that you're advocating for "Indian identity" at the cost of your own Dradvidian identity.

The "Pakistani" identity is a relatively new one that's around 70 years old but it's old enough to form a distinct identity in itself like the Bangladeshis seem to have managed than search for identities outside of Pakistan.

Apparently saying certain ethnic groups can have some people that resemble each other must mean we're "looking for our identity outside of Pakistan" you make no sense, I have to mince my words but you really aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. You should get out more and meet more people whenever you guy time off from posting comments online for a living.

Also if you're so secure in your "Tamil-Indian" identity then why are obsessed with astroturfing on a Pakistani forum I've never visited an Indian forum in my life but y'all flock to Pakistani websites all the time, just imagine if a Pakistani was a regular poster on an Iranian forum you guys would claiming we have a "identity crisis" well then what does that make you?

 

[Giannis]

Indians are so "proud" of being Indian that they want to look European

 

[Romali_rotti]

reactions of some of the insecure Indians here are more stupid.

Yeah, I feel soo insecure right now because Pakistanis think they look like Italians LMAO
Yeah like Pakistanis thinking they look like Italians affects my mortgage payments, bills, heck even the lives of ppl around me..

Please saveee meeeeee


I couldn't give 2 flyin hoots, thread was created to get ppl's opinions and I shared my opinion....

 

[shaz619]

I would have felt Greece and Mexico you will find more of a resemblance but to an extent Italy to

 

[ARK Rafay]

Mattia Perin can pass as Pakistani

 

[marlonbrowndo]

People usually say I look Italian, Turkish or Spanish.

 

[street cricketer]

I've seen numerous threads all over the internet on various sites where Indians have compared to themselves to almost every Europeak & middle eastern ethnicity imaginable so I don't know why you're acting all insecure if one Pakistani or even a few are of the opinions that they may resemble ethnicities to the west of them.

You don't know what the word identity means and neither were you able to comprehend a word that the OP said. The OP and nor has any Pakistani said we aren't proud Pakistanis and that we're "not Pakistanis" Saying your nationality/ethnicity resembles another doesn't mean that you identify as the ethnicity, this isn't about "identity" something you people always harp on about on Pakistani forums even if they zero relevance to the subject. I don't know if you're new to the internet but there are numerous comparisons between ethnic groups and a supposed similairities (based off looks) and it isn't just Pakistanis, but Arabs, Persians, Latinos, Filipinos, Indians and every single ethnicity in the world. There several thousands of internets posts, Tiktok videos, youtube videos, etc asking why do Indians "look latino, spanish, greek, persian" etc. it's literally so common in America to see Indian girls and even guys brag about being mistaken for any white ethnicity other than Indian, perhaps you've never left India or you're of the older generation so aren't in the loop with social media.

Oh boy, I seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest, what an almighty meltdown. Anyway let me start by saying that I can only go by Pakpassion as it's the only online forum I'm part of. I'm certainly not a user of Tik Tok or other discussion forums other than PP. Maybe you're part of multiple online forums but I can only go by what I see here. Indians have hardly created threads that they look similar to any other ethnicity other than whatever ethnicity they are themselves. And it's funny because Pakistanis always keep trotting out the "insecurity" line with Indians but when I say the same, you seem to have got all worked up. Perhaps you are right and there are multiple videos in youtube and Tik Tok where Italians claim they look similar to Pakistanis and I'm just not in the social media loop.

To you guys, most Pakistanis have never heard of Tamil and here in America neither do most people know you guys exist let along claims of Tamils being "notorious for being proud and chauvinistic" - literally every ethnicity says that, I know Punjabis and Sindhis from Pakistan that are just as chauvinistic but I wouldn't expect you to know the specifics since you're not from Pakistan.

Not sure what the point is here. I just wanted to point out that Tamils tend to chauvinistic, sometimes very highly about their culture that I myself loathe it. I didn't claim that Pakistanis know Tamil or whatever, no idea why you wrote that. And why would a Sindhi or a Punjabi not knowing about Tamil would matter to us. Quite a bizarre point that. Like it would make any difference if some random guy in Pakistan doesn't know about Tamils.

You're a South Indian so wouldn't know anything about a country over a thousand miles away. Also it's funny you claim "Tamils are the proudest people" when the Tamil film industry from I've heard only casts fair skinned actors and a lot of the actresses are from north india

https://www.idiva.com/entertainment...-rule-the-south-indian-film-industry/17013173

Seriously? Do you think I'm going to defend the patriarchal practices of film industries. But not sure where you've heard that the Tamil film industry only casts fair skinned actors as the most well known Tamil actor is dark skinned. There are many dark skinned actors and actresses too but I don't expect you to know them. That said, I agree with you that the practice of casting actresses simply because of their appearance rather than their acting skills should stop. The scene is slowly changing for the good though and more and more people are getting cast in films because they know how to "act" and not because they are fair skinned.

I don't know or care what the difference is but if you're so proud of being Tamil then you would've supported your Tamil brethren in Sri Lanka and carved out an Independent Tamil country for yourselves.

You think Indian Tamils don't support the cause of the Sri Lankan Tamils in Sri Lanka? You need to read up more on the issue.

Or were you expecting covert fighters to cross border from India and fight the cause militarily like the Pakistanis did in Kashmir? Well there's the small matter of a sea in between.

It's the same with most Pakistanis, if anything Indians still have the Hindu caste system where you guys take pride in being Aryans and claim your roots lie outside south asia, even in south india you guys have so called "brahmins" that discriminate against other south indians despite being the same color just cause they may have some distant foreign ancestry,

You don't know as much about hindutva or casteism as you claim to know. The hindutvadis absolutely hate the Aryan invasion theory and claim that they have their origin from the Indus valley (whether it's true or false is another matter). The brahmins who discriminate against other castes do so not because they think they're from outside India (a brahmin would get mad if you say to him if his ancestry isn't Indian), they do so because they believe they're blessed by God to be twice born and they're blessed people meant to serve god. I don't believe in casteism and I think it's a bulls**t concept, not sure why you're expecting me to defend that. In any case, the brahmins don't believe in having foreign roots, but they believe they're spiritually above everyone else and closest to God.

Based off what? Your comment makes no sense. Saying we possibly resemble other Indo-European ethnic groups doesn't mean we aren't proud Pakistanis, this thread isn't even about identity - we're not identifying as Italian or Tamil or whatever, you really need to work on your comprehension instead of projecting your insecurities.

There are so many Indians that claim they look mexican or afghan, I've seen it all over the internet and in person so based off my experience I could claim Indians have an identity crisis and don't want associate with south asia Bollywood is notorious for being colorist and whitewashing Indians, most of your actors are from minority communities or have foreign ancestry. Pakistanis don't need to "distance" ourselves from an "Indian identity" - we aren't Indians, we literally have our own country if that isn't obvious to you What even is an Indian identity - it's a country home to thousands of ethnic groups or should I say nations and in the historical and ethnographical sense you as a Tamil aren't even Indian if you really want to get specific, Tamils are part of the Dravidian race, they were never part of most empires that ruled over south asia neither are you guys Indo-Aryans so it's funny that you're advocating for "Indian identity" at the cost of your own Dradvidian identity.

First off, Bollywood is a sh** industry that mostly typecasts people based on appearance and not true acting skills (although there are some exceptional "actors" too like Nawazuddin Siddiqui, Naseeruddin Shah, Manoj Bajpayee, Raj kumar Rao, etc.).

And let's be honest here, what's even the point of this thread - that a small minority of fair skinned Pakistanis tend to resemble Italians who are of a light brown shade and therefore Pakistanis look like Italians? Anyone with a healthy eye can differentiate between the average Pakistani and an average Italian. I mean, nobody is going to mistake Babar Azam or Hasan Ali or Rizwan or Wahab for an Italian, although Shaheen could very easily pass for one though.

You're a relatively new poster here and you are perhaps not aware of the many threads in Time pass section talking about how Pakistanis are nothing at all in common with the Indians and they have completely separate identities. A lot of times, the discussion veers off into genetics too and so it's not just about appearance.

Also the "Indian" identity is not synonymous with "Indo-Aryan" identity. Just because you're Indian doesn't mean you only have the Indo Aryan identity, you can have the Indian identity and also have the Dravidian identity. Or do you believe that south Indians are not Indians as they aren't Indo Aryans? What do you exactly mean by "Tamils aren't Indian" in the historical and ethnographic sense? Do you believe India only means Indo-Aryan?

Apparently saying certain ethnic groups can have some people that resemble each other must mean we're "looking for our identity outside of Pakistan" you make no sense, I have to mince my words but you really aren't the sharpest tool in the shed. You should get out more and meet more people whenever you guy time off from posting comments online for a living.

Also if you're so secure in your "Tamil-Indian" identity then why are obsessed with astroturfing on a Pakistani forum I've never visited an Indian forum in my life but y'all flock to Pakistani websites all the time, just imagine if a Pakistani was a regular poster on an Iranian forum you guys would claiming we have a "identity crisis" well then what does that make you?

I will never understand this constant "why do Indians come and post here" narrative that's often iterated here. I joined the forum because it's the best cricket forum I found at the time and so I joined, I'm sure that's the case for most other Indians as well. It's also the best moderated cricket forum too. If Indians shouldn't join here, maybe you should ask the mods for a strict "no Indian policy" in the forum.

What's so troubling about hearing opposing opinions anyway, that's what discussion forums are there for. Or do you just want an echo chamber where only Pakistanis discuss about Indian affairs with no opinions from the other side?

 

[street cricketer]

Indians are so "proud" of being Indian that they want to look European

You don't get the difference do you?

Those Indians are prejudiced about fair skin and believe fair skin is more beautiful which is why they opt for fairness creams.

They don't believe they are European or they resemble Europeans, they "want" to look like Europeans because of their prejudices towards fair complexion.

 

[Manunited18]

Thaigo looks more mixed race, he has a Brazlian background. Of course there are some similarities but overall Italians resemble Pakistanis. I've been asked if im Italian myself in London, was proud to say no British Pakistani.

Lol same here , I resemble more to the spanish, brown hair with a brown stubble , and enjoy a evident golden Sun tan in warm weather.

 

[Manunited18]

Yeah, I feel soo insecure right now because Pakistanis think they look like Italians LMAO
Yeah like Pakistanis thinking they look like Italians affects my mortgage payments, bills, heck even the lives of ppl around me..

Please saveee meeeeee


I couldn't give 2 flyin hoots, thread was created to get ppl's opinions and I shared my opinion....

Surely you must-have come across pakistani patharns who resemble of Europeans with blond hair and blue green eyes, my niece and nephew both resemble them features

 

[IAJ]

You don't get the difference do you?

Those Indians are prejudiced about fair skin and believe fair skin is more beautiful which is why they opt for fairness creams.

They don't believe they are European or they resemble Europeans, they "want" to look like Europeans because of their prejudices towards fair complexion.

Lol, you seem confused on so many levels here. Firstly OP mentioned pakistanis look like Italians. And then you commented on a video where you said some Indians want fair skin because they «want» to look like Europeans.

And you gave a long lecture bringing in your culture. But ended up embarrasing Indians lol.

So tell me in your opinion, what is more «bad»: 1) people who think they naturally look like others or 2) people who use cosmetics to try to look like others?

And lastey, keep this lecture to yourself that Pakistanis try to search their roots from anywhere else. How can you even claim something like this when no a single person has said something like this.

I have lived 35 of my 41 years here in Norway so you would call me a Norwegian, but even though I have lived 35 years here I know exactly where I am coming from. I speak punkabi/pahadi/urdu, dress like a Pakistani at home, eat Pakistani food etc but I have no issues at all when I am with my white Norwegian friends, I gel in nicely there as well as I have adobted the Norwegian culture as well, I respect them and they respect me. No identity crisis here at all.

 

[amax]

We pakistanis as a whole have our own look , even lighter skinned pakistanis can be distnguised from europeans, we should be celebrating it.

Its funny how defensive some indians can get when it comes to looks.

I am average looking pakistani and i have been mistaken for places ranging from north india to spain , average person can be quite ignorant.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Surely you must-have come across pakistani patharns who resemble of Europeans with blond hair and blue green eyes, my niece and nephew both resemble them features

Ofcourse I have seen Pakistanis and Indians resemble Europeans, that was never my point. I kind of felt a younger version of Stallone from the mid 80s like Rambo 2 looked similar to an Imran Khan of back in those days..

 

[street cricketer]

Lol, you seem confused on so many levels here. Firstly OP mentioned pakistanis look like Italians. And then you commented on a video where you said some Indians want fair skin because they «want» to look like Europeans.

You're highly mistaken if you believe that people wanting themselves (or their kids) to look fair is only an Indian thing. I'm pretty sure it exists in Pakistan too (and pretty much everywhere in the subcontinent) and heck, it even exists in Korea. You'd by surprised at the amount of cosmetic surgery that many Koreans undergo to look "European".

So tell me in your opinion, what is more «bad»: 1) people who think they naturally look like others or 2) people who use cosmetics to try to look like others?

Both are inferiority complexes, just in different forms. It is very easy to differentiate the average Pakistani from the average Italian. The average Pakistani is darker in complexion than the average Italian, has darker hair and darker pupils, but for some reason, pointing out the obvious is deemed as "insecurity". It's funny how Pakistanis call Indians insecure all the time, but lose their minds every time an Indian tells some Pakistanis have an identity crisis.

 

[PakLFC]

They don't look at all like Pakistanis too me. Just another complex thing I believe. Afghans look like Pakistanis, Iranians look like us, Arab's look like us or it's the Turk's. Just add another one to the list.

 

[Bi_Jamalo]

Its about time we pakistanis should stop being ashamed of our Indian heritage. We are who we are and that’s how the whole world sees us.

 

[amax]

Its about time we pakistanis should stop being ashamed of our Indian heritage. We are who we are and that’s how the whole world sees us.

what is indian heritage ? pakistan is a multi ethnic country with following large ethnicities

Punjabis
Pashtuns
Sindhis
Balochs
seraiki
and dardic groups

overwhelming majority of pakistanis belong to these ethnicities and they are native to the land they live in , and overwhelming majority of indians dont , its your ethnicity that is native to land that decide your heirtage and folk lore connections. Pakistan definitely share to a certain degree with all its neighbours but thats about it.

Racialy pakistanis are a dark haired , dark eyed population with wheatish pigmentation , personally i can tell a group of 5 random pakistanis, from any group in the world 90% of the time and this include indians as well , thats like saying germans are of french heirtage because they can appear similar to outsiders.