Well I don’t think England would have won the game without him. It’s about what he gets out of other people as much as his own batting and bowling. Like Mike Brearley, though Stokes is clearly a much more capable and valuable player than Brearley was.
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Will a Test series loss to India be the end of captaincy for Ben Stokes?
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Very kind of you to act as a messenger boy for English team.
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Stokes could lose 5 Test series vs India and the ECB wouldn’t give a flying fig.
This is India’s aukaat. However, if England suffer a humiliating whitewash/defeat down under in the upcoming Ashes, then you can bet Stokes will resign before he is sacked as captain. Look it up, the majority of English Test captains resign/sacked after an Ashes series.
Indians, don't think for a minute the England give a sh1t about you, they don't and never will.
To England, its Test cricket, and Australia is the final frontier for any English cricketer who wants to conquer the game.
This is India’s aukaat. However, if England suffer a humiliating whitewash/defeat down under in the upcoming Ashes, then you can bet Stokes will resign before he is sacked as captain. Look it up, the majority of English Test captains resign/sacked after an Ashes series.
Indians, don't think for a minute the England give a sh1t about you, they don't and never will.
To England, its Test cricket, and Australia is the final frontier for any English cricketer who wants to conquer the game.
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To the point, England will wrap up the 4th Test in no time and then just focus on the Ashes.
India series is just practise sessions.
India series is just practise sessions.
Are you saying that he contributed to the loses of that tour.
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No, he didn’t contributed to loss. Afterall, he was hitting hundreds and taking 5-fers for fun while his team was poor
.Stokes averages 41 with bowl and 28 with bat. Missed the 2017 tour due to his indisciplinary act and getting into unnecessary brawl off the field. Yes, being a main player, he contributed to the losses too.
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Stokes is not going anywhere atm.
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Rain intervened bro. They looked well set to win it. That is probably the only drawn match in Stokes' captaincy i think?
If rain washes out an entire day in the next 2 tests, then a draw can occur as well. I don't know what the forecast of next 2 tests look like.
A bit strong, but essentially true.
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Why would they sack Stokes during the summer’s warm-up for the Ashes?
135 to keep the Ashes alive average off 55 in 2019,155 in 2023.No, he didn’t contributed to loss. Afterall, he was hitting hundreds and taking 5-fers for fun while his team was poor
Stokes averages 41 with bowl and 28 with bat. Missed the 2017 tour due to his indisciplinary act and getting into unnecessary brawl off the field. Yes, being a main player, he contributed to the losses too.
Shocking should have scored 300+ in each Innings.
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Bolding the part won’t mean you post incorrect information.
I clearly mentioned Ashes in Australia and then you quoted me. Everyone is aware of his 135 at home vs Australia.
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Stokes is not going anywhere. WHy would Engalnd take a risk of sacking him when Ashes is nearby. Stokes is doing just ok ok atm.
Indeed, the only beneficiaries would be the Australians. They’d love it.
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It should the end of his captaincy whether England win or lose the series.
I think Stokes should be dropped.
I take back my comment.
After how Stokes lead and performed in 3rd Test, I think he should continue. He showed great leadership.
But, he needs to get his batting form back.
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At home, he is good but he needs to perform more away. He has only performed well in South Africa away from home but failed in Australia, India, New Zealand and Pakistan. He doesn’t have to perform everywhere but Ashes in Australia this year can certainly uplift his legacy given he has couple of truly memorable performances with bat already in his test career and a highly successful record as a captain.
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stokes is not having a good time with the bat and ball but his team is winning atm. Brandon would want him to continue
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He is trying his level best to win the series
Stokes is picking key wickets up.
Man of the match in the last match, contributing with Bat, Ball and in the field.
5 wickets already here.
3rd innings in a row he is out bowling a 'prime' Archer despite being 'finished'.
More egg on the face of @Mamoon. Tell us more about how Archer is the best bowler in the world and Stokes has been finished for 3 years.....
5 wickets already here.
3rd innings in a row he is out bowling a 'prime' Archer despite being 'finished'.
More egg on the face of @Mamoon. Tell us more about how Archer is the best bowler in the world and Stokes has been finished for 3 years.....
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24 overs, 5-72 is a herculean effort by him when you consider his history of injuries and how much he has been discouraged from bowling long spells. He's a true warrior. No all-rounder in the world quite like him.
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Great news for Australia if part-time batsman and part-time bowler Stokes is on the plane to Australia for the Ashes.
I don’t want to be rude but as of now that seems a rather silly remark in the light of his current performances as bowler and captain.
He’s salty because he said Archer is the best bowler in the world for 6 years now and Stokes has outperformed him in his weakest suits when he kept harping on about how Ben stokes is finished as a cricketer.
It must be embarrassing to be so consistently wrong.
I don’t want to be rude but that seems a rather silly remark in the light of his current performances as bowler and captain.
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Bro, Gill avg has dropped to 88, Jamie Smith still avg 103 this series. How does it feel to know that Jamie smith is the highest avg batsmen this series
Bro, Gill avg has dropped to 88, Jamie Smith still avg 103 this series. How does it feel to know that Jamie smith is the highest avg batsmen this series
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Bro, Gill avg has dropped to 88, Jamie Smith still avg 103 this series. How does it feel to know that Jamie smith is the highest avg batsmen this series
Gill is overrated, will end up being an avg to below avg bat by the time his career ends.
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I do rate FTB's BTW. I understand the criticism but in cricket you are bound to get a flat track eventually or an entire series worth.
It is an inevitability if your career is 5+ years.
A FTB will always outbat anyone else in such tracks. We saw that from gill in test 1 and 2 and have seen it from Brooks as well this series.
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I had huge expectation for Gill after his Brisbane 90 and also watching him live at the G during boxing day match but looks like he was a fluke...
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One of the great worlds athletes. Inspiration to his team and is world class in every asset of cricket . 
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Beautiful victory today. The way he devised to take 10 wickets in the fourth innings on this placid pitch was a treat to watch.
His great sportsmanship was also on display when he was crying over Jadeja and Washington scoring hundreds.
An overrated captain who has produced nothing but mediocre results in the important series and a sore loser to boot.
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He is extremely overrated as a test captain. What is the hype all about, I don’t understand? His W/L ratio from his era is behind several names such as Virat Kohli, Kane Williamson and Pat Cummins. On what basis, is he framed as one of England’s greatest test captain?
Let’s look at W/L ratio first because presenting facts is important before the cheerleaders come up.
Cummins - 2.87( 23 wins)
Kohli - 2.3(40 wins)
S Smith - 2.3(23 wins)
Williamson - 2.2(22 wins)
Stokes - 1.7 ( 22 wins)
Stokes is a good captain and an upgrade over Joe Root but the hype he gets from England cricket experts make you believe that he is England’s greatest ever since Bearley.
Let’s look at W/L ratio first because presenting facts is important before the cheerleaders come up.
Cummins - 2.87( 23 wins)
Kohli - 2.3(40 wins)
S Smith - 2.3(23 wins)
Williamson - 2.2(22 wins)
Stokes - 1.7 ( 22 wins)
Stokes is a good captain and an upgrade over Joe Root but the hype he gets from England cricket experts make you believe that he is England’s greatest ever since Bearley.
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Is england beatable at home? Talking about series winHe is extremely overrated as a test captain. What is the hype all about, I don’t understand? His W/L ratio from his era is behind several names such as Virat Kohli, Kane Williamson and Pat Cummins. On what basis, is he framed as one of England’s greatest test captain?
Let’s look at W/L ratio first because presenting facts is important before the cheerleaders come up.
Cummins - 2.87( 23 wins)
Kohli - 2.3(40 wins)
S Smith - 2.3(23 wins)
Williamson - 2.2(22 wins)
Stokes - 1.7 ( 22 wins)
Stokes is a good captain and an upgrade over Joe Root but the hype he gets from England cricket experts make you believe that he is England’s greatest ever since Bearley.
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