Will Bumrah have the same effect as Chetan Sharma had after that Miandad six? That no-ball will hurt

[PKDZ]

title says it all and maybe the no-ball was the reason he bowled so badly today

 

[Enigma_]

I hope it he remembers it forever and it hurts a lot. Luck was on our side for once.

 

[TahirFan]

He will be getting nightmares about it for years

 

[big_gamer007]

Think the Indian system is more professional now and with top notch sports psychologists he should be ok.. remember stokes came back stronger after decimation by Braithwaite who himself is nowhere to be seen now so Bumrah can grow into a better player.. Or he can be totally demoralised and lose hope only time will tell

 

[member250]

not that big of a deal compared miandad six. Fakhar still had to play brilliantly to score century.

 

[Syed1]

I hope he remember it everytime he steps out on the field against Pak

 

[last_knight]

He had done it in semifinal of T20 WC against West Indies.

 

[Specialisttailender]

He always looks very timid, I hope he doesn't go through any sort of mental hurdles. We lost by 180 runs so his no ball doesn't matter anyway.

 

[Varun]

He always looks very timid, I hope he doesn't go through any sort of mental hurdles. We lost by 180 runs so his no ball doesn't matter anyway.

Well we lost by 180 runs because Fakhar Zaman helped build a mammoth total by being let-off off that very no-ball early on in that innings.

It was like Kamran Akmal dropping Ross Taylor in the 2011 World Cup.

 

[dhump]

well he will be uneasy for next few days when some one say no to him.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

The Miandad match was a "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat" type of situation. Here, we were never in the game, so it wasn't really the same thing.

 

[ads101]

Don't think it was a big deal, Bumrah bowled well throughout the tournament. More interest how Jadeja will come back from this tournament. Feel a little sorry for him knowing the backlash by the Indian media he will receive for that run out mix up, especially considering he had a poor tournament overall. Will be the most unpopular man in India for the next few days I bet .

 

[Specialisttailender]

Well we lost by 180 runs because Fakhar Zaman helped build a mammoth total by being let-off off that very no-ball early on in that innings.

It was like Kamran Akmal dropping Ross Taylor in the 2011 World Cup.

There is always ifs ands buts when a team loses. Apart from Jhadav and Dhoni no other player got out trying to attack. They got out trying to play defensive shots. Not sure if we would have chased 250. Pakistan beat SA and England brilliantly with bowling.

 

[Adil_94]

on the teams no. India is still a top outfit n will carry on being a top LOI team for the next few years. In our head to heads it all depends who turns up on the day. Maybe now we beat them.in an ICC final. We can break our WC hoodoo against them.

Yes atm Indian players will be hurting n psychologically down but i dont think this will have a bearing in future games apart from giving Pak more belief in these games that we can win.

 

[KingKhanWC]

He had a very unlucky day. First the captain made him bowl a leg stump line to Fakhar which imo backfired.

The no ball will affect him in big games to come but it's his own fault as he pushes the line regularly.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

He always looks very timid, I hope he doesn't go through any sort of mental hurdles.

On the contrary, he seems like a pretty strong-minded player coming in at the death for Mumbai Indians in the IPL. Believed that further in the 2016 World T20 game against Bangladesh where after dropping Tamim Iqbal's catch, he bowled a superb penultimate over with very less runs to defend, a game which we eventually won by 1 run.

 

[PKDZ]

The Miandad match was a "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat" type of situation. Here, we were never in the game, so it wasn't really the same thing.

I feel like if that was out, this match would have been totally different, Fakhar Zaman took the game away from you guys totally. It was the worst he bowled the whole tournament and it happened after that no ball.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

I feel like if that was out, this match would have been totally different, Fakhar Zaman took the game away from you guys totally. It was the worst he bowled the whole tournament and it happened after that no ball.

It was an ok innings tbh. I thought he was capable of much more. It's certainly not an innings any of our top order wasn't capable of matching, but they never got that opportunity since Aamir blew them away.

 

[bluevision]

It will either make him a better bowler or vanish from the scene within a couple of years.Not a big deal though . I would cut the poor guy some slack, he ain't a Dinda.

P.S. Met him in Delhi a few months back in a hotel lobby, was not the friendliest one for sure.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

No, situations are very different.


Miandad's six was extremely clutch situation. And the innings Miandad played was 3 decades ahead of its time. That six hurt Indian psych.

Fakhar delivered a legendary thrashing but Miandad's was epic.

 

[Finisher]

Forget the no ball, bumra still managed to bowl a good spell towards the end, it's the Indian batting that was annihilated.

 

[proud_pakistani]

How can you compare a last ball 6 to a no-ball. You have to take use of opportunities. Fakhar did today, while Kohli did not.

 

[Madplayer]

Bumrah bottled today. It told me a lot about his character. Mentally fragile.

 

[Haroon786]

The Miandad match was a "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat" type of situation. Here, we were never in the game, so it wasn't really the same thing.

It's a matter of what could have been, had Fakhar got out then, then maybe Pakistan would have batted slowly and got like 270 instead of 340 and the game would have been dusted then. Yes this is counter-factual but such is the imprtance of these moments that they can tilt matches.

 

[Sports_Psychologist]

Think the Indian system is more professional now and with top notch sports psychologists he should be ok.. remember stokes came back stronger after decimation by Braithwaite who himself is nowhere to be seen now so Bumrah can grow into a better player.. Or he can be totally demoralised and lose hope only time will tell

Oh the same stokes who was unable to hit any boundary in 64 balls?

 

[PakLFC]

It will effect him one way or another no matter how many shrinks try to tell him otherwise. He will keep thinking about it repeatedly in his mind. I generally don't think he is that great a bowler at all so may eventually lose his place in the team regardless of today's incident. Wonder what happened to Ishant Sharma?

 

[kaifmazhar]

Hopefully he can carry the baggage till whatever time he plays.

 

[PakLFC]

I hope India's defeat does not have the same effect on their players that it is on their fans!! It is now their turn to break TV's and curse the players!!) I wonder if Sehwag is doing this as well!

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

It's a matter of what could have been, had Fakhar got out then, then maybe Pakistan would have batted slowly and got like 270 instead of 340 and the game would have been dusted then. Yes this is counter-factual but such is the imprtance of these moments that they can tilt matches.

I mean who's to say if Bumrah bowled within the crease that the ball would've ended up a touch shorter and Fakhar would've completely missed it altogether, therefore not getting out?

You can rue dropped catches. Wickets off no balls, I don't think so.

India didn't lose the match trying to go for some outrageous shots chasing down a big score. They got outdone by some good bowling. So I don't think it would've made a difference if they were chasing 270.

 

[ahmedwaqas92]

I hope this no ball creates such a mental block that he freezes and disintegrates every time Pak play Ind from here onward



Relax Boyes #JustKiddin

 

[IAJ]

It will either make him a better bowler or vanish from the scene within a couple of years.Not a big deal though . I would cut the poor guy some slack, he ain't a Dinda.

P.S. Met him in Delhi a few months back in a hotel lobby, was not the friendliest one for sure.

Oh, I had a different impression of him, thought he would be a calm friendly guy.

 

[PKDZ]

Fakhar Zaman "I won't forget the no-ball for the rest of my life but Bumrah won't forget it either"

 

[PKDZ]

Bumrah bottled today. It told me a lot about his character. Mentally fragile.

Yup, I was impressed how bhuvi bowled under pressure when everyone was getting spanked, these occasions seperates men from boys. Sami was bumrah kind of bowler, looked how he fared after repeatedly bottling in crunch matches to make pakistan lose won matches. It is the unconcious mind that tells you that you could do that again and these thoughts come back in pressure games when the stakes are high. He has to produce a star performance in future to keep this match behind him and have good memories for reference.

 

[Executioner]

These days every team have psychologists who help them out in such aspects

 

[SandyB]

Yup, I was impressed how bhuvi bowled under pressure when everyone was getting spanked, these occasions seperates men from boys. Sami was bumrah kind of bowler, looked how he fared after repeatedly bottling in crunch matches to make pakistan lose won matches. It is the unconcious mind that tells you that you could do that again and these thoughts come back in pressure games when the stakes are high. He has to produce a star performance in future to keep this match behind him and have good memories for reference.

Actually we all expected Bhuvi to be the first one of the crop to wilt away. He has suffered countless thrashings from south africa and australia on Indian pattas.

But the dude has be the top bowler in the IPL for 2 consecutive seasons, mainly bowling at the death. He exceeded all our expectations last match.

 

[Haroon786]

I mean who's to say if Bumrah bowled within the crease that the ball would've ended up a touch shorter and Fakhar would've completely missed it altogether, therefore not getting out?

You can rue dropped catches. Wickets off no balls, I don't think so.

India didn't lose the match trying to go for some outrageous shots chasing down a big score. They got outdone by some good bowling. So I don't think it would've made a difference if they were chasing 270.

Counter-factual in the sense that assuming he still takes the wicket with his foot behind the line and Bumrah usually straddles the line anyway so his ball delivery would be effectively the same I reckon more likely than not.

Both dropped catches and no balls are in the control of the bowling side, just like the field should have shown better judgement and technique to catch the ball, the bowler should exercised better discipline and awareness to not cross the line.

I think the Pakistani bowling were definitely bolstered by the 340 score the batting put up but I agree with you, the bowling was good irregardless of the score (good balls bowled to dismiss batsmen rather than reckless batting) and maybe they would've won even if the score was significantly less.

 

[LastManstanding]

He had a very unlucky day. First the captain made him bowl a leg stump line to Fakhar which imo backfired.

The no ball will affect him in big games to come but it's his own fault as he pushes the line regularly.

This. Kohli was too afraid of Fakhar and asked him and asked his bowlers to bowl a negative line. Sometimes bowlers lose their way. No big deal. My main issue with him over the past few games has been that he hasn't been able to get his Yorkers right consistently. Needs to work on that.

 

[troodon]

Not even close.

Bumrah will bounce back from this bad performance. He did bowl okayish. Its just that he gave away too many extras. Wickets on no-balls happen. Not the first time a bowler got a wicket on a no-ball and then the batsman went on to make a century.

Chetan Sharma was a different case.