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Terrorism doesn't count unless it's ratified by western definitions according to our resident India spokesman.
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Why is Indian media so obsessed about Afghanistan? I mean they don't even share border with AFG.
I know they have invested alot of money in AFG, but their posters here and their media are saying these are only peanuts.
So what is the real issue here? Surely it must be they can't use the soil against Paksitan anymore?
They should rather focus on China, instead they are taking all their frustration against Pakistan. They invite som nobodies from USA or some Pakistan-haters diplomats to their show and enjoy their Pakistan-bashing. They are mocking journalism. They don't let the opposition to talk and the most incredible thing is their anchors are not neutral. What kind of journalism is this?
In the beginning when I only watched Pakistani media I thought that was really bad. But now just watch a couple of minutes of one of their biggest channel Republic TV and then switch to ARY News and you will feel the difference in calmness and class, boy their media is really bad.
I know they have invested alot of money in AFG, but their posters here and their media are saying these are only peanuts.
So what is the real issue here? Surely it must be they can't use the soil against Paksitan anymore?
They should rather focus on China, instead they are taking all their frustration against Pakistan. They invite som nobodies from USA or some Pakistan-haters diplomats to their show and enjoy their Pakistan-bashing. They are mocking journalism. They don't let the opposition to talk and the most incredible thing is their anchors are not neutral. What kind of journalism is this?
In the beginning when I only watched Pakistani media I thought that was really bad. But now just watch a couple of minutes of one of their biggest channel Republic TV and then switch to ARY News and you will feel the difference in calmness and class, boy their media is really bad.
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What a joke and this is member of ruling party. The intelligence or lack of it is obvious. Even the anchor is hinting to her what load of ** she is talking
Yes india and Indians should feel disappointed about infrastructure projects that it's invested on, especially the Salma dam will be India's legacy. But ultimately it's just money that's lost but legacy stays.
The educational, health and sport initiatives by Indian government for Afghanistan will always be appreciated.
All pakistan can do is feel jealous about Indian influence, and deflect it as saying money spent on raw and stuff.
the more pakistan tries to deal with Taliban , there will be more bloodshed and loss of lives, and remaining international reputation will go down the drain.
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But why did Indians close their embassies/consulates and ran like rats while many other countries have their consulates up and running?
I mean you know, Indians were supposedly creating a "legacy" in Afghanistan.
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So in the end all of the terrorist rats who were backed by India and its network of terrorist consulates have either fled or have been thoroughly exterminated.
Afghanistan will finally have some peace and stability.
Indians were first to flee when push came to shove.
Indian foreign minister bowed and shook™ his head in front of Taliban in Doha.
What an epic humiliation for terrorist sponsoring India.
0 Indian troops were sent to help their terrorist rat allies.
Oh and ISI chief is in Kabul
Afghanistan will finally have some peace and stability.
Indians were first to flee when push came to shove.
Indian foreign minister bowed and shook™ his head in front of Taliban in Doha.
What an epic humiliation for terrorist sponsoring India.
0 Indian troops were sent to help their terrorist rat allies.
Oh and ISI chief is in Kabul
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Afghans being welcomed in India
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)What does this even mean?
Enjoy being associated with the Taliban, it will do wonders to your international reputation. India has nothing to gain from Afghanistan, good riddance.
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This is disgusting. But not gonna lie, not surprising at all.
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Always handy when you outnumber your victims 10-1 when you want to show your bravery and martial prowess.
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Disgusting. Frustrated people, playing tough guys when they are so many in numbers against one person.
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I used that term because they just don’t know what to do, they have been kicked out of Afghanistan, and instead of trying to make the Afghans their «friends» they are asking them to do what the Afghans don’t want, and hence starts beating this guy, so they really dont know what to do, this or that, both go wrong so they are frustrated.
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Lol they are only strong in numbers - man for man the Afghans ruled over these baniyas for centuries!
The problem is , man for Man these Afghani cowards that ran away will be defeated by the 12th century Afghans. Remember that 300k cowards left their weapons and just bailed. That makes me think that history must have been skewed somehow.Or maybe the Hindus back then were bigger cowards than the current Afghans. The talib cowards ran and hid in Pakistan for a couple of decades too. I believe they will do the same if they enter India which I don't think they will.
So in the end all of the terrorist rats who were backed by India and its network of terrorist consulates have either fled or have been thoroughly exterminated.
Afghanistan will finally have some peace and stability.
Indians were first to flee when push came to shove.
Indian foreign minister bowed and shook™ his head in front of Taliban in Doha.
What an epic humiliation for terrorist sponsoring India.
0 Indian troops were sent to help their terrorist rat allies.
Oh and ISI chief is in Kabul
Pakistan got it's own medicine. A lesson was taught that hiring these terrorists isn't that hard. I remember the days of Burhan Wani and how Indian forces were always "late" in catching him. He never was violent so they just kept tracking him and killed every terrorist that came to join him or meet him. They arrested every sympathizer under the draconian law. Burhan Wani was the single largest helper for the Indian cause.
Finally when he had enough weapons, they got him. The timing was planned too. Pakistan lost Jihadi control in Kashmir by then and Kashmir was relatively silent. Indians needed instability and Burhan's death facilitated it. The following ruckus helped India in abrogating the article 370 with not much resistance worldwide. They had to control all these terrorists you see.
So the lesson is, India knows how to handle Kashmir. India can destabilize Afghanistan and always remember that Afghanistan is just a missile away. Those dumb nuts have no air defence. So let's not overestimate a rag tag group of misfits.
India has nothing to do with Afghanistan. It's in the best interests of Hindutva to keep drumming up Taliban to create more islamaphobia. India's biggest enemy was Lashkar and there are news that show more than half the Lashkar were Indian spies in Kashmir. India started using the same Lashkar militants to kill kashmiri civilians including Sikhs and blame ISi.
The support to Afg to begin with was for three reasons. India was worried that CIA courted ISI when the war on terror began. India wanted a piece of that pie. The 2nd was for obvious reasons which was to destabilize FATA. The third was to satisfy the secular brigade that India isn't anti Islam. A couple of billions have been lost but that's nothing in the grand scheme of things. India can easily deny any terror activity in the northern areas of Pakistan as they don't have any embassy in Afg anymore. India has created enough network on either side of the Durand line that were reigned in by CIA. Now, There are no restrictions.
The media in India is always aligned with the Indian govt. They will scare the public that Taliban will ride their Toyotas and ISIS on white horses to create the khorasan. Just enjoy the fun
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Lol. U mad?
Never overlook the fact that the "Taliban ideology" won over Western one. It was never an exclusive military war.
Invaders tried everything, including "hiring terrorists", but in the end both ANA and their puppets saw who the public were with and fled. Afghans are extremely loyal to their religion, tribe and land. It has been so since before a human being uttered the word "Pakistan".
As far as Indian Occupied Kashmir is concerned: Kashmiris have been continuously rejecting the occupation for decades and I don't see it changing anytime soon. Let's wait and see!
PS: "Dumb nuts" have something way stronger than air defense. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out
Lol. U mad?
Never overlook the fact that the "Taliban ideology" won over Western one. It was never an exclusive military war.
Invaders tried everything, including "hiring terrorists", but in the end both ANA and their puppets saw who the public were with and fled. Afghans are extremely loyal to their religion, tribe and land. It has been so since before a human being uttered the word "Pakistan".
As far as Indian Occupied Kashmir is concerned: Kashmiris have been continuously rejecting the occupation for decades and I don't see it changing anytime soon. Let's wait and see!
PS: "Dumb nuts" have something way stronger than air defense. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out
Taliban are at home. US were the invaders. Even then Taliban ran away and hid in the mountains for a decade and half. Ideology of Americans was never going to win in an animal kingdom. It was their mistake. But you would be mad if you think Taliban is a stronger force than the Americans or even the Indians. They are missile away on presidential palace to fight amongst themselves like rabid dogs to find the next in command. Heck Even ISIS ruled parts of Syria and Iraq for a few years. If Taliban decide decide to enter India, their Toyotas and faces will be blown away to bits. Like I said. The romantic notion of khorasan and mehedi and all those childhood stories are blinding your judgement. They are nothing but a loose band of dimwits. I don't think India should try to do anything to change the ideology or send the groups to Afg. They just need to pay those beggars once in a while when needed.
Lol. U mad?
Never overlook the fact that the "Taliban ideology" won over Western one. It was never an exclusive military war.
Invaders tried everything, including "hiring terrorists", but in the end both ANA and their puppets saw who the public were with and fled. Afghans are extremely loyal to their religion, tribe and land. It has been so since before a human being uttered the word "Pakistan".
As far as Indian Occupied Kashmir is concerned: Kashmiris have been continuously rejecting the occupation for decades and I don't see it changing anytime soon. Let's wait and see!
PS: "Dumb nuts" have something way stronger than air defense. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out
As far as Kashmiris go. After the recent skirmishes, many youth were given two options. Either be a spy or eat a bullet. Many chose the former for a monthly stipend. They stand in their valleys with binoculars and radios ready to transmit everything. Kashmir is not even India's concern anymore. It's the communism and the urban naxals in India.
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It is simple.
If Kashmiris do not want their Freedom then they will be forgotten and history will forget them. The will has to come from within.
On the other hand, if they keep on resisting against invaders then they will never be defeated.
Rest is all propaganda.
Time puts everyone and everything in their rightful place! If I am alive and active on PP by the time of Kashmir's freedom (Insha'Allah), I will definitely remind you
The first video of the ex ISI Chief was accurate. The second video is immaterial. USA was right to attack Taliban but they tried nation building which was a worthless cause. I said the same in the previous post. This is not your conventional army that is going to stand and fight. They run away and hide, bide their time. That's exactly what happened. But that doesn't mean armies can't win short wars there. There's already chorus here in USA that troops need to be sent again. But this time it won't be for nation building. It will be for quick operations. It's very easy to destabilize that hole and let the infighting take care of the rest.
As far as Indians are concerned, they don't need to send their troops anywhere. India normally doesn't. However, they can take care of their interests from India and also destabilize Afg which is in their best interest. As long as Taliban doesn't enter India, Indians and especially Modi couldn't care less about women's rights or freedom in an Islamic country and no soldiers will step into Afg. In the worst case scenario. A couple of missiles will take care of the leadership in Kabul.
It is simple.
If Kashmiris do not want their Freedom then they will be forgotten and history will forget them. The will has to come from within.
On the other hand, if they keep on resisting against invaders then they will never be defeated.
Rest is all propaganda.
Time puts everyone and everything in their rightful place! If I am alive and active on PP by the time of Kashmir's freedom (Insha'Allah), I will definitely remind you
I'm sure we will debate this for decades but strategic interests won't be let go. The demographic change has just begun. Time will take care of the rest.
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The 2nd video is relevant as ever. There has been an active propaganda campaign to dehumanize Afghans. You are a mere victim of this campaign. I don't even blame you.
It is gullible to think that only "lose band of dimwits" reside in mountains of Afghanistan. The English, Soviets and Americans, all three of them, came and tried their best and in the end fled with their tails between shaking legs. In the end hubris of all these invaders was the reason of their downfall.
If Americans decide to invade again, it would be an even more stupid war than Afghanistan/Vietnam/Korea combined.
Lol. This isn't even worth a reply.
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When Pakistan was created millions walked from thousands of miles away. So a "demographic mixture" was undone in days in 1940s. This will be a non issue when Kashmir gets its freedom.
Time always does take care of everything.
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The last time Taliban was in power, It took USA a couple of days to make the Taliban run for the hills. Literally!! And there is nothing that suggests it won't happen again. It's an open field with no repurcusions. Any terrorist attack in the world, bomb the heck of out Taliban and leave. It's that easy. Literally again!! Don't be naive assuming they are holy warriors with magic swords. They are precisely what I called them. A ragtag band of dimwit beggars that don't know how to run a country. Americans will keep bombing it. China's presence there will compel them to do it. India will keep it destabilized by paying off a few other ragtag band of other dimwits as it's in their best interest. It's going to be a constant hike up and down the mountains for the Taliban. Will be interesting though.
Precisely. A lot of people are ready to go back into Kashmir. Like u said, Maybe it will be faster than a couple of decades.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doha_Agreement_(2020)
Stay tuned. At the moment Taliban are creating their government and soon an embassy might be opened in New York
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doha_Agreement_(2020)
Stay tuned. At the moment Taliban are creating their government and soon an embassy might be opened in New York
Stay tuned. Just now Pak's foreign minister had released a dossier claiming Indians are training IS in 5 cities and will release them into gen pop so they can run "Anti terror" operations in Kashmir. Like I said earlier these terrorists are mercenaries ready to fight for anyone in the name of jihad for cash. It took a while for Indians to grasp this but now they seem to know the ground rules.
Taliban will be recognized by a few because Taliban are beggars and will follow the rules for some bread and chai like all beggars do. They will be bombed if they resort to the same shenanigans as they did 20 years ago though.
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Too bad Americans are penniless and didn't have any wads of cash to offer to "these mercenary terrorists"
Just FYI: they do not eat bread and chai; they eat bread and raw onion
Now shoo away and share this critical piece of information to RAW
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They don't need to. India will fight this in three ways. India will take the lead of US and western countries in claiming to give Taliban a "chance" but with some conditions on human rights etc. India has to do that as a democratic power championing the cause of human rights and women's rights especially. I know it's ironic with the Kashmir situation etc but the world doesn't care about Kashmir and India's human rights record is much better than China and Pakistan so they will be heard.
India will keep supporting IS and other factions to keep Taliban destabilized and pre occupied. It's a necessity for India. I think it's part of US strategy as well.
India will keep drumming up the media rhetoric about Taliban being a cruel, archaic regime so the popular opinion against Taliban remains negative. Most of the seculars in India against Hindutva seem to be losing their credibility and common sense by comparing Taliban to RSS. It's an own goal by the left in India. There is a band of hundred thousand fighters up for grabs in Afghanistan that's ready to fight for anyone that pays them pennies. India along with US and every western country is ready to tap into it to use against the Chinese and everyone else.
Too bad Americans are penniless and didn't have any wads of cash to offer to "these mercenary terrorists"
Just FYI: they do not eat bread and chai; they eat bread and raw onion
The best part is US can keep printing trillions of dollars to fund anything they want. The poor guy eating off the floor is hungry for some of those dollars. So he will kill his will and will toe the line. Or else he will be buried right next to that roti
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No, lol. Muslims have designated places known as "graveyards" to burry their dead. We respectfully wash our dead, enshroud it in white linen, pray and bury it in a grave head pointing towards Mecca. Hopefully you'll have learned something from this absurd back and forth.
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That is if a body is left. If it's bombed, it's under a rubble. Anyway, not sure if you know but the Afghan's central banks cash is controlled by Americans. The aid is controlled by the west. Any new sanctions and Taliban are dead. India is a key part of Heroin trade and it's allowed to fund clandestine operations and can be squeezed. Always remember. The war is over. Now the next phase is not in Talibans control. All these people need to be fed, clothed and maintained. It needs loads of cash. All of that is controlled by the west. There's lot you need to know as well. Good talk though.
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Yeah, lol. Just keep on clutching at straws.
There is a world beyond. China, Russia, Pakistan, Turkey, Qatar and the whole central Asia.
West is not the "all controlling god", there is life beyond
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Bharat stands firmly with Afghan people and will continue to contribute to development projects in Afghanistan that will help millions of our Afghan brothers and sisters
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Will the Bharat Government confront The Taliban Government for their abuses of women's rights.
Or does Bahrat share their sentiments.
Why will India confront a foreign country over the treatment of their people?
Afghanistan is a separate sovereign nation and its for their people to deal with their rulers. No foreign country should involve themselves in their internal affairs.
I am pretty sure Pakistan will not appreciate if India pokes its nose into the treatment of Ahmedis, Christians and Hindus there. Pakistan will tell India to mind its own business. The same goes for Afghanistan.
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I am sure behind closed doors, Bharat must have already shared their concerns with the Taliban regime. There is a way to do these things.
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Bharat itself has a poor record of womens rights so is not in a position to do so. In fact many would go so far as to say the current BJP party is trying to echo many of the hardline or traditionalist policies of the Taliban and putting a hindutva spin on them.
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Hindustans only concern is if they can pay off some Tabliban to cause issues with Pakistan.
The Northern Alliance is wiped out, the current Taliban want to have good relations with all. Once they realise Hindustan is only trying to use them, they will either laugh or wipe them back to Belly Dehli.
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Are you sure. Recently, both Biden and Modi were taking Digs at the Taliban.
India Urges Taliban to Form Inclusive Gov't and Respect Women's Rights
Since storming back to power in August 2021, the Taliban has earned global condemnation for their treatment of women - banning their education and employment.
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Yep. They go hand in hand.
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Taliban or any Afghan organization cannot come in the way of the people to people relations between Bharat and Afghan people. Every Pathan is bhai to Sanatani sisters and every Sanatani is brother to Afghan Behens. We will provide all possible support till the end of time to Afghans.
One can always urge/pray/hope.Are you sure. Recently, both Biden and Modi were taking Digs at the Taliban.
India Urges Taliban to Form Inclusive Gov't and Respect Women's Rights
Since storming back to power in August 2021, the Taliban has earned global condemnation for their treatment of women - banning their education and employment.
No one can demand it from Afghanistan.
Anyways, would you support the Taliban's ban on women's education, co-ed schools, colleges, enforcement of Hijab etc?
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What is the name of this Kabul/Bollywood colab movie?
Just over 10 years ago, the Taliban carried out attacks on two hotels, killing nine Indians, including two Major-rank Army officers. But its ok , you go there and tie some Raksha Bandhan around Mullah Jalanis wrist.
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Lol. No point going whataboutery here. Clearly Baharat, are trying to take advantage of toxic relations between Pakistan and the afghans by playing devils advocate.
I Condemn all inappropriate actions by The Talban. And most definitely condemn their cruelty and abuse of Womens rights.
But as you pointed out, you clearly don't.
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Like i said, Taliban will come and go. Governments in Bharat will come and go. These are temporary things.
But the love between Afghans and Bharat will remains.
Kabul loves Bharat and you know that.
So Taliban is devil then. The same devil your country supported in ousting US and NATO not long ago.
Don't tell me Pakistan did not know that Taliban would ban women freedom when they come to power.
Pakistanis were dancing and trolling India when Ashraf Ghani's government was overthrown. They called Ghani a RAW agent and said India will lose billions of its investments in Afghanistan. Now all of a sudden Taliban are devil and evil.
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So Taliban is devil then. The same devil your country supported in ousting US and NATO not long ago.
Don't tell me Pakistan did not know that Taliban would ban women freedom when they come to power.
Pakistanis were dancing and trolling India when Ashraf Ghani's government was overthrown. They called Ghani a RAW agent and said India will lose billions of its investments in Afghanistan. Now all of a sudden Taliban are devil and evil.
But but this isn't about Pakistan.
And now we have Hindutva Government showing their true class by cosing up to the oppressive regime to go HAND IN HAND
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Oh my the thread from first three pages to now
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I wonder to whom this consignment is going?
This is a Pakistani forum...you are a Pakistani. So this is a fair question. Deflecting his question as whataboutery only mean you can't answer him with straight face.
@Champ_Pal...good post. Lol
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So Taliban is devil then. The same devil your country supported in ousting US and NATO not long ago.
Don't tell me Pakistan did not know that Taliban would ban women freedom when they come to power.
Pakistanis were dancing and trolling India when Ashraf Ghani's government was overthrown. They called Ghani a RAW agent and said India will lose billions of its investments in Afghanistan. Now all of a sudden Taliban are devil and evil.
Lol fer.
It was Donald Trump who wanted NATO forces out of Afghanistan through dialogue with the Taliban and imran Government as the Mediator.
The Pakistan Government have called out the Taliban for their inhumane policies from day one . My point to you was, Modi and Biden both called out the Talban for the same reason, but as of now with indias Government cosing up to the Taliban, will the same stance still exist, or was it just hot air.
As for the Gahni Government, it was more of a Biden lapdog mouth piece association, who were causing mayhem . And as we saw, Natos departure saw Gahni Fled the country faster than Usain bolt and The Taliban still exist.
And your getting defensive because I'm questioning indias new found partner .
Wow.
India will only deal with the leadership if the country. Whether that leadership is good or bad to its own people is not India’s problem. Unless Afghanistan Taliban government is not acting against India’s interests, it is not India’s business to poke nose in Afghanistan’s internal affairs.
India is not Western nations that care about female rights in other countries and put sanctions or do military operations. India is not world police. It has its own problems and India is wise enough to not interfere in other nations militarily.
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I would personally never gloat over supporting Taliban with defence , only thing we should be helping is sports infrastructure, education as much as we can but nothing else.
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That’s the Pakistani perspective on Taliban just from 3 years ago.
It’s one thing to deal with UAE but another with Taliban stuff, UAE is no denying basic rights to women in 21st century.
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But indias Government was getting involved. Not sure because of presence of Biden, but Modi was trying to impress
India Urges Taliban to Form Inclusive Gov't and Respect Women's Rights
Since storming back to power in August 2021, the Taliban has earned global condemnation for their treatment of women - banning their education and employment.
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Why India is reaching out to the Taliban now
India's latest diplomatic outreach to Afghanistan's Taliban government signals a marked shift in how it sees the geopolitical reality in the region.
This comes more than three years after India suffered a major strategic and diplomatic blow when Kabul fell to the Taliban.
Two decades of investment in Afghanistan's democracy - through military training, scholarships and landmark projects like building its new parliament - were swiftly undone. The collapse also paved the way for greater influence from regional rivals, particularly Pakistan and China, eroding India's strategic foothold and raising new security concerns.
Yet, last week signalled a shift. India's top diplomat Vikram Misri met Taliban acting foreign minister Amir Khan Muttaqi in Dubai - the highest level of engagement since Kabul's fall. The Taliban expressed interest in strengthening political and economic ties with India, calling it a "significant regional and economic power".
Talks reportedly focused on expanding trade and leveraging Iran's Chabahar port, which India has been developing to bypass Pakistan's Karachi and Gwadar ports.
How significant is this meeting? Delhi has now given the Taliban leadership the de facto legitimacy it has sought from the international community since its return to power, Michael Kugelman of the Wilson Center, an American think-tank, told me.
"The fact that this treatment is coming from India - a nation that never previously had friendly relations with the Taliban, makes this all the more significant, and also a diplomatic triumph for the Taliban," he says.
Since the Taliban's return to power in Afghanistan, countries have adopted varied approaches toward the regime, balancing diplomatic engagement with concerns over human rights and security. China, for example, has gone far: it has actively engaged with the Taliban, focusing on security and economic interests, and even has an ambassador in the country.
No country has formally recognised the Taliban government, but up to 40 countries maintain some form of diplomatic or informal relations with it.
That's why experts like Jayant Prasad, a former Indian ambassador to Afghanistan, are more circumspect about India's outreach.
For the past three years, he says, India has maintained contact with the Taliban through a foreign service diplomat. India had closed its consulates in Afghanistan during the civil war in the 1990s and reopened them in 2002 after the war ended. "We didn't want this hiatus to develop [again], so we wanted to engage. It is very simply a step up in relations," he says.
India has "historical and civilisational ties" with Afghanistan, Foreign Minister S Jaishankar told parliament in 2023. India has invested more than $3bn (£2.46bn) in over 500 projects across Afghanistan, including roads, power lines, dams, hospitals and clinics. It has trained Afghan officers, awarded thousands of scholarships to students and built a new parliament building.
This reflects a lasting geopolitical reality. "Irrespective of the nature of the regime in Kabul - monarchical, communist, or Islamist - there has been a natural warmth between Delhi and Kabul," The Indian Express newspaper noted.
Mr Kugelman echoes the sentiment. "India has an important legacy as a development and humanitarian aid donor in Afghanistan, which has translated into public goodwill from the Afghan public that Delhi is keen not to lose," he says.
Interestingly, relations with Delhi appear to be easing amid rising tensions between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan claims the hardline Pakistani Taliban (TTP) operates from sanctuaries in Afghanistan.
Last July, Pakistan's Defence Minister Khawaja Asif told the BBC that Pakistan would continue attacks on Afghanistan as part of an operation aimed at countering terrorism. Days before talks between India and the Taliban, Pakistani airstrikes killed dozens in eastern Afghanistan, according to the Afghan government. The Taliban government condemned the strikes as violations of its sovereignty.
This marks a sharp decline in relations since the fall of Kabul in 2021, when a top Pakistani intelligence official was among the first foreign guests to meet the Taliban regime. At the time, many saw Kabul's fall as a strategic setback for India.
"While Pakistan isn't the only factor driving India's intensifying outreach to the Taliban, it's true that Delhi does get a big win in its evergreen competition with Pakistan by moving closer to a critical long-time Pakistani asset that has now turned on its former patron," says Mr Kugelman.
There are other reasons driving the outreach. India aims to strengthen connectivity and access Central Asia, which it can't reach directly by land due to Pakistan's refusal of transit rights. Experts say Afghanistan is key to this goal. One strategy is collaborating with Iran on the Chabahar port development to improve access to Central Asia via Afghanistan.
"It is easier for Delhi to focus on the Afghanistan component of this plan by engaging more closely with the Taliban leadership, which is fully behind India's plans as they would help enhance Afghanistan's own trade and connectivity links," says Mr Kugelman.
Clearly, India's recent outreach helps advance its core interests in Taliban-led Afghanistan: preventing terrorism threats to India, deepening connectivity with Iran and Central Asia, maintaining public goodwill through aid, and countering a struggling Pakistan.
What about the downsides?
"The main risk of strengthening ties with the Taliban is the Taliban itself. We're talking about a violent and brutal actor with close ties to international - including Pakistani - terror groups that has done little to reform itself from what it was in the 1990s," says Mr Kugelman.
"India may hope that if it keeps the Taliban on side, so to speak, the Taliban will be less likely to undermine India or its interests. And that may be true. But at the end of the day, can you really trust an actor like the Taliban? That will be the unsettling question hovering over India as it continues to cautiously pursue this complex relationship."
Mr Prasad sees no downsides to India's current engagement with Afghanistan, despite concerns over the Taliban's treatment of women. "The Taliban is fully in control. Letting the Taliban stew in its own juice won't help Afghan people. Some engagement with the international community might pressurise the government to improve its behaviour."
"Remember, the Taliban is craving for recognition," says Mr Prasad. "They know that will only happen after internal reforms." Like bringing women back into public life and restoring their rights to education, work and political participation.
BBC
India's latest diplomatic outreach to Afghanistan's Taliban government signals a marked shift in how it sees the geopolitical reality in the region.
This comes more than three years after India suffered a major strategic and diplomatic blow when Kabul fell to the Taliban.
Two decades of investment in Afghanistan's democracy - through military training, scholarships and landmark projects like building its new parliament - were swiftly undone. The collapse also paved the way for greater influence from regional rivals, particularly Pakistan and China, eroding India's strategic foothold and raising new security concerns.
Yet, last week signalled a shift. India's top diplomat Vikram Misri met Taliban acting foreign minister Amir Khan Muttaqi in Dubai - the highest level of engagement since Kabul's fall. The Taliban expressed interest in strengthening political and economic ties with India, calling it a "significant regional and economic power".
Talks reportedly focused on expanding trade and leveraging Iran's Chabahar port, which India has been developing to bypass Pakistan's Karachi and Gwadar ports.
How significant is this meeting? Delhi has now given the Taliban leadership the de facto legitimacy it has sought from the international community since its return to power, Michael Kugelman of the Wilson Center, an American think-tank, told me.
"The fact that this treatment is coming from India - a nation that never previously had friendly relations with the Taliban, makes this all the more significant, and also a diplomatic triumph for the Taliban," he says.
Since the Taliban's return to power in Afghanistan, countries have adopted varied approaches toward the regime, balancing diplomatic engagement with concerns over human rights and security. China, for example, has gone far: it has actively engaged with the Taliban, focusing on security and economic interests, and even has an ambassador in the country.
No country has formally recognised the Taliban government, but up to 40 countries maintain some form of diplomatic or informal relations with it.
That's why experts like Jayant Prasad, a former Indian ambassador to Afghanistan, are more circumspect about India's outreach.
For the past three years, he says, India has maintained contact with the Taliban through a foreign service diplomat. India had closed its consulates in Afghanistan during the civil war in the 1990s and reopened them in 2002 after the war ended. "We didn't want this hiatus to develop [again], so we wanted to engage. It is very simply a step up in relations," he says.
India has "historical and civilisational ties" with Afghanistan, Foreign Minister S Jaishankar told parliament in 2023. India has invested more than $3bn (£2.46bn) in over 500 projects across Afghanistan, including roads, power lines, dams, hospitals and clinics. It has trained Afghan officers, awarded thousands of scholarships to students and built a new parliament building.
This reflects a lasting geopolitical reality. "Irrespective of the nature of the regime in Kabul - monarchical, communist, or Islamist - there has been a natural warmth between Delhi and Kabul," The Indian Express newspaper noted.
Mr Kugelman echoes the sentiment. "India has an important legacy as a development and humanitarian aid donor in Afghanistan, which has translated into public goodwill from the Afghan public that Delhi is keen not to lose," he says.
Interestingly, relations with Delhi appear to be easing amid rising tensions between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan claims the hardline Pakistani Taliban (TTP) operates from sanctuaries in Afghanistan.
Last July, Pakistan's Defence Minister Khawaja Asif told the BBC that Pakistan would continue attacks on Afghanistan as part of an operation aimed at countering terrorism. Days before talks between India and the Taliban, Pakistani airstrikes killed dozens in eastern Afghanistan, according to the Afghan government. The Taliban government condemned the strikes as violations of its sovereignty.
This marks a sharp decline in relations since the fall of Kabul in 2021, when a top Pakistani intelligence official was among the first foreign guests to meet the Taliban regime. At the time, many saw Kabul's fall as a strategic setback for India.
"While Pakistan isn't the only factor driving India's intensifying outreach to the Taliban, it's true that Delhi does get a big win in its evergreen competition with Pakistan by moving closer to a critical long-time Pakistani asset that has now turned on its former patron," says Mr Kugelman.
There are other reasons driving the outreach. India aims to strengthen connectivity and access Central Asia, which it can't reach directly by land due to Pakistan's refusal of transit rights. Experts say Afghanistan is key to this goal. One strategy is collaborating with Iran on the Chabahar port development to improve access to Central Asia via Afghanistan.
"It is easier for Delhi to focus on the Afghanistan component of this plan by engaging more closely with the Taliban leadership, which is fully behind India's plans as they would help enhance Afghanistan's own trade and connectivity links," says Mr Kugelman.
Clearly, India's recent outreach helps advance its core interests in Taliban-led Afghanistan: preventing terrorism threats to India, deepening connectivity with Iran and Central Asia, maintaining public goodwill through aid, and countering a struggling Pakistan.
What about the downsides?
"The main risk of strengthening ties with the Taliban is the Taliban itself. We're talking about a violent and brutal actor with close ties to international - including Pakistani - terror groups that has done little to reform itself from what it was in the 1990s," says Mr Kugelman.
"India may hope that if it keeps the Taliban on side, so to speak, the Taliban will be less likely to undermine India or its interests. And that may be true. But at the end of the day, can you really trust an actor like the Taliban? That will be the unsettling question hovering over India as it continues to cautiously pursue this complex relationship."
Mr Prasad sees no downsides to India's current engagement with Afghanistan, despite concerns over the Taliban's treatment of women. "The Taliban is fully in control. Letting the Taliban stew in its own juice won't help Afghan people. Some engagement with the international community might pressurise the government to improve its behaviour."
"Remember, the Taliban is craving for recognition," says Mr Prasad. "They know that will only happen after internal reforms." Like bringing women back into public life and restoring their rights to education, work and political participation.
BBC
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