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If all other teams agree to play in pakistan, why should matches be shifted out for India only?
Yeah that's why I started my post with "I know it's unlikely".
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If all other teams agree to play in pakistan, why should matches be shifted out for India only?
If Indian government doesn't allow the Indian team to go, ICC cannot do anything.
According to Rameez Raja, Majority of ICC revenues come from India and pakistani population means little when the economy is 280bn only.
Yes, they can. The ICC can have India forfeit all its points and any revenue share from the tournament.
If other teams, especially the white players stop playing with India and in IPL, BCCI’s revenue will also take a nose dive.
BCCI needs world cricket just as much. And that’s the point to be proven
I see that you are struggling with reading comprehension skills and selective reading. Let's state it another way, since you clearly didn't get it the first time.
I am advocating for Pakistan to be a power on its own in cricket. I am advocating that Pakistan should see to it that every home series, Asia Cup, and the champions trophy should be packed to the brim with Pakistan fans. That is what gives Pakistan market power on its own and shows further that Pakistan is not in need of India. Home cricket has returned to Pakistan. It will continue in Pakistan. New stadiums are on the way, safety is no longer a concern as Pakistan has hosted multiple tours safely over the last six years.
It is at that time, when Pakistan becomes a cricket power due to the lucrative nature of playing cricket in Pakistan, that will bring Pakistan and India to level terms and and force the BCCI to make a decision. And if BCCI wants to miss out on the world's largest sporting rivalry, they are more than welcome. Pakistan will continue further without issue as the domestic base will continue to generate money for Pakistan cricket.
EDIT: And I should add that passion of any kind, whether hatred or love, defines sporting rivalries.
India will play Asia Cup and CT in Pakistan because they want Pakistan to play in India in the world cups and CTs in the next decade.
I think this is Pakistan's chance to make a statement that they can stand without India if India decides not to tour. Imagine stadiums stuffed full of green shirted fans. The security issues will be a memory in 23 barring outright war or a February 27th incident. It's time for Pakistan to build an image of more than just a safe place to play-that it is a lucrative place to play. That more than anything else will eventually put Pakistan-India cricket relations back on the map because BCCI will start badgering GOI about missing out on the fun and money.
If other teams, especially the white players stop playing with India and in IPL, BCCI’s revenue will also take a nose dive.
BCCI needs world cricket just as much. And that’s the point to be proven
Why will this even bother the Indian government?
If Pakistan doesn't travel to India they will miss 4 ICC tournaments. India will miss only one.
One of the strongest points of IPL are teams from different states with their own language, food, culture etc. That makes it so unique. There is so much ownership and loyalty for a local team. International players bring with them skill sets and world class performances to liven up the IPL. But the revenues are are derived from the Indian market. We saw in the two new team auction the amount of money spent for buying a team. There will be a dip in interest and quality of cricket if the international players don't come but believe me the IPL will still go on strong. How does the NFL do it? Are there of foreign draftees there too? [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]?
I don't think India will miss the CT. Highly unlikely that we will go for Asia Cup though.
One of the strongest points of IPL are teams from different states with their own language, food, culture etc. That makes it so unique. There is so much ownership and loyalty for a local team. International players bring with them skill sets and world class performances to liven up the IPL. But the revenues are are derived from the Indian market. We saw in the two new team auction the amount of money spent for buying a team. There will be a dip in interest and quality of cricket if the international players don't come but believe me the IPL will still go on strong. How does the NFL do it? Are there of foreign draftees there too? [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]?
So the government of India will change its policy for one ICC tournament?
If they do, then rest everyone will demand the same.
Remember India didn't travel to Pakistan even for the Davis cup.
I am advocating for Pakistan to be a power on its own in cricket. I am advocating that Pakistan should see to it that every home series, Asia Cup, and the champions trophy should be packed to the brim with Pakistan fans. That is what gives Pakistan market power on its own and shows further that Pakistan is not in need of India.
If Indian government doesn't allow the Indian team to go, ICC cannot do anything.
Why will non pakistani players stop Playing in India? For what reason?
What if Bcci does a packer? IPL teams are going for 600mn - 700mn. These owners are dollar billionaires and can offer players millions.
BCCI can live without playing in a CT. It can easily compensate the loss of revenue from that tournament.
But who will compensate ICC when sponsors and broadcasters refuse to pay the same amount they were paying.
One of the strongest points of IPL are teams from different states with their own language, food, culture etc. That makes it so unique. There is so much ownership and loyalty for a local team. International players bring with them skill sets and world class performances to liven up the IPL. But the revenues are are derived from the Indian market. We saw in the two new team auction the amount of money spent for buying a team. There will be a dip in interest and quality of cricket if the international players don't come but believe me the IPL will still go on strong. How does the NFL do it? Are there of foreign draftees there too? [MENTION=76058]cricketjoshila[/MENTION]?
Champions Trophy 2025 in Pakistan: Indian government and Home Ministry will take a decision, says Sports Minister Anurag Thakur
ICC on Tuesday confirmed the 14 host countries of the ICC men's white-ball events from 2024-2031. The Champions Trophy is back and Pakistan will host the tournament in 2025.
When asked about his views regarding Pakistan being the host, Anurag Thakur during a media interaction said, "When the time will come, the Indian government and the Home Ministry will take a decision. During the international championships, all the factors are looked upon."
"Even in past, many countries have refused to play in Pakistan due to security concerns. As you all know, many players were even attacked while playing over there and that's a big issue to be dealt with," he added.
The ICC Board's decision means Pakistan will defend the ICC Champions Trophy title in their backyard when the eight-team and 15-match tournament is held at three iconic venues in February 2025. Pakistan had defeated India by 180 runs in the 2017 tournament at The Oval.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ision-says-anurag-thakur-101637139710350.html
Why will this even bother the Indian government?
If Pakistan doesn't travel to India they will miss 4 ICC tournaments. India will miss only one.
If you believe that you have the brand, then why rely on International players at all? Just have a domestic IPL.
The fact is, IPL needs international talent because at the end of the day, India is a third world country and no one cares about local cricket.
You need international players to market it and legitimize the standard of the league.
Dont compare with NFL. American football is not a worldwide sport. It was developed differently from cricket and soccer.
It will bother the Indians. When you are hosting a tournament, you need the teams that draw the crowds. And India is hosting it 3 times. Pak is a draw in India. Iirc, India was ready to host Pakistan many times but wasn't willing to travel to Pak. GOI will probably make an exception for ICC tournaments. I think the goal was to squeeze PCB out of massive revenues through bilateral series with India. Playing ICC tournaments won't violate that rule.
Third world comment is completely relevant.International players play in every league. The revenues in those leagues are a tiny fraction of IPL. The biggest draw in IPL are the Indian stars. Indian crowds will watch any league where their stars play. By restricting Indian stars to play only in IPL, BCCI created a unique brand and the value is high. Foreign players are part of it as in any league and add value to it. Third world comments are rubbish. They don't matter considering BCCI is the richest board by far in cricket.
International players play in every league. The revenues in those leagues are a tiny fraction of IPL. The biggest draw in IPL are the Indian stars. Indian crowds will watch any league where their stars play. By restricting Indian stars to play only in IPL, BCCI created a unique brand and the value is high. Foreign players are part of it as in any league and add value to it. Third world comments are rubbish. They don't matter considering BCCI is the richest board by far in cricket.
Lets then compare the revenue of Ranji trophy with IPL.
Ranji Trophy should have higher revenue numbers because it only has ALL "Indian stars". No?
Fact of the matter is, IPL relies only and only on white players.
Remove the white players from IPL and then see? I think it will also hit the fair n lovely sale numbers in India.
Lets then compare the revenue of Ranji trophy with IPL.
Ranji Trophy should have higher revenue numbers because it only has ALL "Indian stars". No?
Fact of the matter is, IPL relies only and only on white players.
Remove the white players from IPL and then see? I think it will also hit the fair n lovely sale numbers in India.

The goal is to reduce contact and relations with Pakistan to bare minimum.
You don't need pakistan to draw crowds in India.
If India misses the 2025 CT they will also not receive the revenue share from that tournament. If pakistan refuses to go to India they will not receive revenue from 3 tournaments. Thats nearly 40 per cent of the revenue share. Good luck to PCB to recoup that loss.
If Modi is in power and he allows the team to travel to Pakistan, under whatever excuse, the media and opposition will eat him.
To me this is a 60-40 thing and a lot will depend on the circumstances prevailing just prior to that event. If there is a major event in India, forget about the team going to Pakistan.

The actual goal is to show hypocrisy as much as we can when it comes to cricket with Pakistan.
And why will media eat Modi if he allows the team to travel to Pakistan? How many news channels dare to go against Modi in India?![]()
Leftist media and opposition is still targetting Modi for visiting Pakistan and attending Nawaz Sharif's daughters wedding. If he allows Indian cricket team to travel Pakistan, Pappu Gandhi and his chamchas will rip the govt apart. They will call him weak govt, compromising against Pakistan etc. Why would govt take any such risk just for a cricket tournament?

Most of the India vs Pakistan bilateral cricket happened when Congress was in power so why will they oppose it?![]()
They'll definitely not tour in 2023, but the 2025 Champions Trophy is a real possibility. Less of a chance they'd skip a proper ICC event, the one they're most successful in, and 4 years is a long time.