Will you take the vaccine for Covid-19?

[Robert]

How do you know it was Pfizer, do they specify which one you’re getting / did she have a say in that regard?

No say. When you log on to book your appointment the site tells you what you will get.

I am getting Pfizer, though a friend in London had AstraZenica. I would have preferred the latter as it is one jab not two. My first appointment is in a week. I will tell you how I get on.

 

[Robert]

I am suffering from covid-19 virus. I tested positive some 12 days ago. Had mild fever a couple of days and feel very tired. My biggest issue was that when I had fever I felt very nauseous. I am recovering now Alhamdulillah. Stay safe.

Glad you have not been hospitalised. Get well quickly.

 

[Manunited18]

Definitely will be taking mine, my mother's recently had the Pfizer vaccine, had abit of temperature and all is well Now.

 

[James]

I am a man in my 30s with none of the clinical vulnerabilities, so I am low down on the priority list. Regardless I think I have quite a few antibodies.

My wife and daughter almost certainly had Covid early in the first wave, over a year ago now. My wife brought it home from work, we think. Both had bad coughs and a loss of taste for a good 3 weeks. We all did the 14-day household self-isolation at the time.

I meanwhile had a loss of senses and felt really run down in the first half of December after I went back to the office, so I may have had it also.

My parents got the Oxford vaccine last week. Both felt a bit dodgy for the day and a half after, but they are back to 100% now and feeling very much protected.

 

[IMMY69]

Quite a few of my friends have had their first shot, both my parents and in-laws have had the Pfizer shot...
My brother got his last Sunday.

My daughter had covid in November and had her injection in January. She's a junior doctor working in the hospitals.

Won't be long before me and the Mrs get ours. Bring it on

 

[Robert]

I am a man in my 30s with none of the clinical vulnerabilities, so I am low down on the priority list. Regardless I think I have quite a few antibodies.

My wife and daughter almost certainly had Covid early in the first wave, over a year ago now. My wife brought it home from work, we think. Both had bad coughs and a loss of taste for a good 3 weeks. We all did the 14-day household self-isolation at the time.

I meanwhile had a loss of senses and felt really run down in the first half of December after I went back to the office, so I may have had it also.

My parents got the Oxford vaccine last week. Both felt a bit dodgy for the day and a half after, but they are back to 100% now and feeling very much protected.

Interesting [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION]. Mrs Robert developed a dry cough and lost her sense of taste, about a year ago. Whereas I had no such symptoms but felt exhausted for four days at the same time. So I suspect I have some antibodies too.

Am still going to get the vaccine and make more, though.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Interesting [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION]. Mrs Robert developed a dry cough and lost her sense of taste, about a year ago. Whereas I had no such symptoms but felt exhausted for four days at the same time. So I suspect I have some antibodies too.

Am still going to get the vaccine and make more, though.

Antibodies typically don't last more than 3 or 4 months, so even if you had the virus a year ago, it's improbable you'll still have any antibodies.

 

[shaz619]

No say. When you log on to book your appointment the site tells you what you will get.

I am getting Pfizer, though a friend in London had AstraZenica. I would have preferred the latter as it is one jab not two. My first appointment is in a week. I will tell you how I get on.

With AstraZenica you also need two, a close one had their first and is due the second soon; I think Pfizer is better / more effective especially against the mutations. Am not sure, but once you know what you are getting you can refuse until you are compatible with the one you'd like.

You should be fine hopefully, the side effects should be no different to what you see on the NHS website and they last up to a max of 7 days, but usually from what I have seen it can be between 24-48 hours, maybe even less.

 

[KingKhanWC]

A year has past, Ive had not symptoms of any virus let alone Covid19.

Wont be taking any vaccine, my immune system is strong enough.

You will have to take boosters yearly for mutations. Governments and pharmas are happy for making so much money.

Vaccine passports are something out of Nazi Germany, hopefully the UK will not enforce such nonsense on the public.

 

[Robert]

A year has past, Ive had not symptoms of any virus let alone Covid19.

Wont be taking any vaccine, my immune system is strong enough.

You will have to take boosters yearly for mutations. Governments and pharmas are happy for making so much money.

Vaccine passports are something out of Nazi Germany, hopefully the UK will not enforce such nonsense on the public.

Life is not all about you.

It’s also about the people you may infect who are killed or crippled by COVID.

I’ve got my yellow fever vaccine passport. Without it, I might have been quarantined when I re-entered the UK from a yellow fever zone. It’s a sensible and reasonable precaution.

 

[Robert]

With AstraZenica you also need two, a close one had their first and is due the second soon; I think Pfizer is better / more effective especially against the mutations. Am not sure, but once you know what you are getting you can refuse until you are compatible with the one you'd like.

You should be fine hopefully, the side effects should be no different to what you see on the NHS website and they last up to a max of 7 days, but usually from what I have seen it can be between 24-48 hours, maybe even less.

Ok. I am looking forward to it

 

[KingKhanWC]

Life is not all about you.

It’s also about the people you may infect who are killed or crippled by COVID.

I’ve got my yellow fever vaccine passport. Without it, I might have been quarantined when I re-entered the UK from a yellow fever zone. It’s a sensible and reasonable precaution.

It is about me when it comes to injecting anything into my body. Vaccines dont stop tranmission and those who are vunerable should take action to minimise their risk , not by asking others to take the vaccine.

This vaccine passport is different. We now have music events saying only those with vaccine passports will be allowed. Others include airlines and some emloyeers. This goes against human rights of freedom and break medical ethics forcing people to take the vaccine.

 

[dildilpak]

Got both shots of Pfizer vaccine. Very relieved now - went skiing last week & resumed my gym too. Life definitely is getting back to normalcy post vaccine.

 

[Robert]

It is about me when it comes to injecting anything into my body. Vaccines dont stop tranmission and those who are vunerable should take action to minimise their risk , not by asking others to take the vaccine.

This vaccine passport is different. We now have music events saying only those with vaccine passports will be allowed. Others include airlines and some emloyeers. This goes against human rights of freedom and break medical ethics forcing people to take the vaccine.

So people have to change behaviour for the good of you.

Doesn’t force them at all, any more than forcing people in cars to wear seatbelts stops them driving. Just put your belt on and drive. Or don’t wear a belt and don’t drive. Your decision.

If music venues demand passports (though I have not heard of one) then I say they are being responsible to their audiences and humanity as a whole. If you don’t agree, don’t go to that event.

Quantas insists on vaccine passports and you are at liberty to not fly Quantas.

You are at liberty not to take the vaccine. But you may lose other liberties too. The choice is yours.

 

[James]

My wife has her vaccines booked now. First one next week and the second at the beginning of June. She was contacted as she is in the lower tier clinically vulnerable group.

 

[KingKhanWC]

So people have to change behaviour for the good of you.

Doesn’t force them at all, any more than forcing people in cars to wear seatbelts stops them driving. Just put your belt on and drive. Or don’t wear a belt and don’t drive. Your decision.

If music venues demand passports (though I have not heard of one) then I say they are being responsible to their audiences and humanity as a whole. If you don’t agree, don’t go to that event.

Quantas insists on vaccine passports and you are at liberty to not fly Quantas.

You are at liberty not to take the vaccine. But you may lose other liberties too. The choice is yours.

No for the good of themselves. Wearing a seatbelt is for your own benefit, taking a vaccine may not be the case.

What people are forgetting is if they take this vaccine, its not a one off but you may have to take new doses yearly to fight new mutations. Eventually over years , the side effects will be more serious imo.

I wont lose anything valuable to me, many other airlines will still allow people to fly without a vaccine, as millions around the world will not be vaccinated.

 

[MenInG]

Denmark will not use AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 vaccine for two weeks after reports that some recipients had developed serious blood clots, and in one case may have died as a result, the country’s authorities said on Thursday.

They did not say how many reports of blood clots there had been, but Austria has stopped using a batch of AstraZeneca shots while investigating a death from coagulation disorders and an illness from a pulmonary embolism.

Danish health authorities said the country’s decision to suspend the shots for 14 days came after a 60-year old woman in Denmark, who was given an AstraZeneca shot from the same batch that was used in Austria, formed a blood clot and died.

Danish authorities said they had responded “to reports of possible serious side effects, both from Denmark and other European countries”.

“It is currently not possible to conclude whether there is a link. We are acting early, it needs to be thoroughly investigated,” Health Minister Magnus Heunicke said on Twitter.

Following Denmark’s move, Norway announced later on Thursday that it was also halting the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine.

“This is a cautionary decision,” Geir Bukholm, director of infection prevention and control at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health (FHI), told a news conference.

FHI did not say how long the suspension would last.

“We … await information to see if there is a link between the vaccination and this case with a blood clot,” Bukholm said.

Also on Thursday, Italy said it would suspend use of an AstraZeneca batch that was different to the one used in Austria.

AstraZeneca meanwhile told Reuters news agency in a written statement the safety of its vaccine had been extensively studied in human trials, and peer-reviewed data had confirmed the vaccine was generally well tolerated.

The drugmaker said earlier this week its shots were subject to strict and rigorous quality controls and that there had been “no confirmed serious adverse events associated with the vaccine”. It also said it was in contact with Austrian authorities and would fully support their investigation.

The European Union’s drug regulator, the European Medicines Agency (EMA), said on Wednesday there was no evidence so far linking AstraZeneca to the two cases in Austria.

It said the number of thromboembolic events – marked by the formation of blood clots – in people who have received the AstraZeneca vaccine is no higher than that seen in the general population, with 22 cases of such events being reported among the three million people who have received it as of March 9.

Four other countries – Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg and Latvia – have stopped inoculations from the batch while an investigation continues, the EMA said.

The batch of one million doses went to 17 EU countries.

On hold, not opting out, says Denmark
Al Jazeera’s Paul Brennan, reporting from London, said Thursday’s moves by Denmark and Norway appeared to have “been borne of an abundance of caution”.

“The Danish Health Authority has not given any details of exactly how many blood clot cases there have been,” Brennan said.

“But what they did say it was that it was currently not possible to conclude there was a link between the vaccine and these deaths.”

So far, 136,090 Danes have received a shot with AstraZeneca’s vaccine in a country of 5.8 million. The Nordic country also uses vaccines from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna.

Denmark’s Health Authority said it had pushed back the final date for when it expects all Danes to have been fully vaccinated by four weeks, to August 15, as a result of the suspension.

Sterghios Moschos, a molecular biologist at the UK’s Northumbria University, said Denmark, Norway and other governments were doing the correct thing to “stop and make sure everything was okay” before proceeding with further use.

“It’s an appropriate response, there is a concern that has been raised, and it needs to be looked at carefully and independently,” Moschos told Al Jazeera.

“But the likelihood, in general, that … a batch of the vaccine may have something wrong with it is very small.”

Spain on Thursday said it had not registered any cases of blood clots related to AstraZeneca’s vaccine so far and would continue administering the shots.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...-ofastrazeneca-vaccine-after-blood-clot-repor

 

[KingKhanWC]

^ Many reports of people dying from the Oxford Vaccine.

I have to be fool to even risk my life 1% when I dont need the vaccine, esp to help strangers.

 

[shaz619]

^ Many reports of people dying from the Oxford Vaccine.

I have to be fool to even risk my life 1% when I dont need the vaccine, esp to help strangers.

Yes from a blood clot apparently, some European countries have suspended its deployment until investigation is complete. If I am offered the Oxford one I would personally refuse that and prefer either J&J or Pfizer, the J&J one has reported no side effects at all which is interesting.

I have seen a great deal of scepticism amongst minority communities in Brum about the jab in general but in the past 6 weeks or so, more and more have decided to take the jab, know a few who have taken it and they said the clinics were full of asians and afro carribean folk, Moeen has also advocated it as well. It will be some time before they get to me so I have the benefit of a broader view, it is ultimately ones personal decision and the jab is not mandatory; but in recent times, I have become more open to it. The medical community need to be more transparent and media, government and places of work etc should not pressurise people, I don't think that's the correct approach.

 

[MenInG]

^ Many reports of people dying from the Oxford Vaccine.

I have to be fool to even risk my life 1% when I dont need the vaccine, esp to help strangers.

Please dont spread lies like that

MANY people have not died!

 

[Last Monetarist]

I wont lose anything valuable to me, many other airlines will still allow people to fly without a vaccine, as millions around the world will not be vaccinated.

That's wishful thinking, vaccine passports will be normal in the course of a few months. I'd be staggered if any airline will take a risk to allow people without antibodies/vaccine on board a plane simply because the converse would result in massive losses and leave the airline exposed to huge reputation risks. If someone is not willing to take the vaccine, there will be certain aspects of life that would have to be forgone.

I am broad-minded enough to understand why a few are reluctant about the vaccine and it's a rational instinct for some people to prefer to wait and see before accepting to be vaccinated. Nonetheless, it's definitely not good form to be fearmongering about it in public, especially as the pandemic continues to rage.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Please dont spread lies like that

MANY people have not died!

Many could mean more than 2. A number have died due to blood clots, some have recovered, some are still recovering.

Six European countries have suspended use of AstraZeneca.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes from a blood clot apparently, some European countries have suspended its deployment until investigation is complete. If I am offered the Oxford one I would personally refuse that and prefer either J&J or Pfizer, the J&J one has reported no side effects at all which is interesting.

I have seen a great deal of scepticism amongst minority communities in Brum about the jab in general but in the past 6 weeks or so, more and more have decided to take the jab, know a few who have taken it and they said the clinics were full of asians and afro carribean folk, Moeen has also advocated it as well. It will be some time before they get to me so I have the benefit of a broader view, it is ultimately ones personal decision and the jab is not mandatory; but in recent times, I have become more open to it. The medical community need to be more transparent and media, government and places of work etc should not pressurise people, I don't think that's the correct approach.

Im glad someone is up to speed with these devlopments. Dont take any vaccine which may harm you even 1% but Oxford seems to have issues. With Vaccines in short supply, for nations to suspend them should sound alarm bells but most people eat what is fed to them via mainstream media.

Take this vaccine, keep taking shots for the rest of life while weakining your immune system iimo.

 

[moghul]

Please dont spread lies like that

MANY people have not died!

Agree, but his "jehad" against the covid 19 vaccines continues, never knew his motive though.

 

[Robert]

No for the good of themselves. Wearing a seatbelt is for your own benefit, taking a vaccine may not be the case.

What people are forgetting is if they take this vaccine, its not a one off but you may have to take new doses yearly to fight new mutations. Eventually over years , the side effects will be more serious imo.

I wont lose anything valuable to me, many other airlines will still allow people to fly without a vaccine, as millions around the world will not be vaccinated.

When the seatbelt law was introduced, many people complained about loss of freedom, civil liberties etc. But then a generation grew up wearing them and it seemed normal to them.

It’s curious how vaccines have gone the other way to seatbelts. As a boy I took the TB, polio and MMR vaccines and it seemed entirely normal behaviour. I grew up immunised against diseases that killed or crippled many of my parents’ generation. So as an adult I take the yellow fever, flu and COVID vaccines as it still seems entirely normal. Never had any kind of “side effect” barring a slight scar on my arm from the TB jab.

Sadly we are now in a less well informed world, where Hollywood celebrities with no scientific qualifications are believed by some, while Doctors and epidemiologists are not.

 

[LongHorn]

Yes from a blood clot apparently, some European countries have suspended its deployment until investigation is complete. If I am offered the Oxford one I would personally refuse that and prefer either J&J or Pfizer, the J&J one has reported no side effects at all which is interesting.

I have seen a great deal of scepticism amongst minority communities in Brum about the jab in general but in the past 6 weeks or so, more and more have decided to take the jab, know a few who have taken it and they said the clinics were full of asians and afro carribean folk, Moeen has also advocated it as well. It will be some time before they get to me so I have the benefit of a broader view, it is ultimately ones personal decision and the jab is not mandatory; but in recent times, I have become more open to it. The medical community need to be more transparent and media, government and places of work etc should not pressurise people, I don't think that's the correct approach.

I think countries like Denmark and Norway are into conspiracy theories, otherwise how dare they stop a vaccine!
Are they anti vaxxers? Seems so!

 

[LongHorn]

Yes from a blood clot apparently, some European countries have suspended its deployment until investigation is complete. If I am offered the Oxford one I would personally refuse that and prefer either J&J or Pfizer, the J&J one has reported no side effects at all which is interesting.

See, you are behaving the way you are because you have a choice

In Bangladesh, Oxford is the only one available and woke people are calling those not wanting to take it as anti vaxxers

In some Gulf countries, Sinopharm is only offered, and people are calling skeptical ones as racist and anti vaxxers, though this Chinese vaccine maker refuses to release the same data that Pfizer etc did

In America though no one will call you anti vaxxer for refusing Chinese vaccines.

 

[Loralai]

Of course, this is a deadly disease that could endanger my life and the lives of those around me. It would be sheer ignorance and stupidity to not take it, as some in this thread are supposing. Even more bizarre are those who intend to "play it safe" to "see what happens".

If you are fortunate enough to be in a position to be offered the vaccine, then you should take it! It could end up saving your life.

 

[Robert]

Im glad someone is up to speed with these devlopments. Dont take any vaccine which may harm you even 1% but Oxford seems to have issues. With Vaccines in short supply, for nations to suspend them should sound alarm bells but most people eat what is fed to them via mainstream media.

Take this vaccine, keep taking shots for the rest of life while weakining your immune system iimo.

Err, vaccines strengthen your immune response to a disease agent. This is what vaccines are for. If I am exposed to the disease agent that causes tuberculosis, my immune system will react faster to destroy it because it has already been challenged and remembers the challenge.

Tuberculosis has not gone anywhere. It is becoming more prevalent due to antivax propaganda. Without the BCG I could still die of tuberculosis, or be crippled, or at minimum face many months of antibiotic treatment with unpleasant side effects such as intestinal trouble and fungal infection that such treatment entails.

We have to live with COVID from now on. It will not go away. But we can enhance our life expectancy by vaccination every year.

 

[Firebat]

AstraZeneca: Thailand delays vaccine rollout over blood clot fears

Thailand has delayed the rollout of the AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine over reports of blood clots, despite there being no evidence of a link to the jab.

The country's prime minister was due to kick off the country's vaccination drive by getting the vaccine on Friday. This has now been cancelled.

The delay comes after a number of countries, including Denmark and Norway, suspended the use of the jab.

Around 5 million Europeans have already received the AstraZeneca vaccine.

Thailand's public health ministry said it made the decision because the country had not been "hard hit" by the virus and it had other vaccines it could rely on in the meantime.

There have been about 30 cases in Europe of "thromboembolic events" - or developing blood clots - after the vaccine was administered.

On Friday, Bulgaria became the latest country to suspend use of the vaccine, and it asked for a written statement from the European Medicines Agency (EMA) accounting for the jab's safety.

The EMA said on Thursday that there was no indication the jab was causing the blood clots, adding that its "benefits continue to outweigh its risks".

AstraZeneca said the drug's safety had been studied extensively in clinical trials.

Other countries, including Portugal, Australia, Mexico and the Philippines, have said they are continuing their roll-out.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56369550

 

[MenInG]

Countries should not stop using AstraZeneca's Covid-19 vaccine over fears it causes blood clots as there is no indication this is true, the World Health Organization says.

Bulgaria, Denmark and Norway are among the countries that have paused its use.

But on Friday a WHO spokeswoman said there was no link between the jab and an increased risk of developing a clot.

Margaret Harris said it was an "excellent vaccine" and should continue to be used.

Around 5 million Europeans have already received the AstraZeneca jab.

There have been about 30 cases in Europe of "thromboembolic events" - or developing blood clots - after the vaccine was administered. There were also reports that a 50-year-old man had died in Italy after developing deep vein thrombosis (DVT).

The WHO is investigating the reports, as it does any safety questions, Ms Harris said.

But no causal relationship had been established between the shot and the health problems reported, she said.

BBC

 

[KingKhanWC]

When the seatbelt law was introduced, many people complained about loss of freedom, civil liberties etc. But then a generation grew up wearing them and it seemed normal to them.

It’s curious how vaccines have gone the other way to seatbelts. As a boy I took the TB, polio and MMR vaccines and it seemed entirely normal behaviour. I grew up immunised against diseases that killed or crippled many of my parents’ generation. So as an adult I take the yellow fever, flu and COVID vaccines as it still seems entirely normal. Never had any kind of “side effect” barring a slight scar on my arm from the TB jab.

Sadly we are now in a less well informed world, where Hollywood celebrities with no scientific qualifications are believed by some, while Doctors and epidemiologists are not.

This is a poor analogy. 1. Seat belts are a choice, if you dont want to wear one, you dont drive a vehicle but can still reach your destination. 2. You dont inject a seat belt into your body, its a temp mesasure while driving.

Err, vaccines strengthen your immune response to a disease agent. This is what vaccines are for. If I am exposed to the disease agent that causes tuberculosis, my immune system will react faster to destroy it because it has already been challenged and remembers the challenge.

Tuberculosis has not gone anywhere. It is becoming more prevalent due to antivax propaganda. Without the BCG I could still die of tuberculosis, or be crippled, or at minimum face many months of antibiotic treatment with unpleasant side effects such as intestinal trouble and fungal infection that such treatment entails.

We have to live with COVID from now on. It will not go away. But we can enhance our life expectancy by vaccination every year.

I dont think you understood my point. Now 9 countries have suspended the Oxford vaccine due to blood clots emerging with some people dying from the vaccine. Therefore even if there is 0.5% chance of myself suffering like those who are right now, it makes no sense to take it. Again Vaccines dont stop transmission, so doing it for others is incorrect too. Do you think these 9 countries are stupid in doing so?

 

[Robert]

This is a poor analogy. 1. Seat belts are a choice, if you dont want to wear one, you dont drive a vehicle but can still reach your destination. 2. You dont inject a seat belt into your body, its a temp mesasure while driving.



I dont think you understood my point. Now 9 countries have suspended the Oxford vaccine due to blood clots emerging with some people dying from the vaccine. Therefore even if there is 0.5% chance of myself suffering like those who are right now, it makes no sense to take it. Again Vaccines dont stop transmission, so doing it for others is incorrect too. Do you think these 9 countries are stupid in doing so?

It’s a fair analogy. If you don’t want to wear a seatbelt, don’t drive. If you don’t want to take the vaccine, don’t expect to fly certain airlines, work for certain employers or enter certain venues.

Fifty people have developed blood clots, one has died, but none of these are in the U.K. where millions of doses have already been administered.

Let us say ten million doses have been taken worldwide. Even if there is a risk of clotting, which is unproven and denied by the EMA and WHO, that’s not a 1/200 chance as you suggest but a 1/200,000 chance. Compare that to the one-in-forty chance of dying of COVID or a roughly equal chance of being crippled by it.

So yes, those countries are being unnecessarily cautious when hundreds of their citizens are dying every day from COVID.

I think our difference here is that you are treating this as a personal freedom issue whereas I am thinking about the whole of humanity.

 

[Technics 1210]

It’s a fair analogy. If you don’t want to wear a seatbelt, don’t drive. If you don’t want to take the vaccine, don’t expect to fly certain airlines, work for certain employers or enter certain venues.

Fifty people have developed blood clots, one has died, but none of these are in the U.K. where millions of doses have already been administered.

Let us say ten million doses have been taken worldwide. Even if there is a risk of clotting, which is unproven and denied by the EMA and WHO, that’s not a 1/200 chance as you suggest but a 1/200,000 chance. Compare that to the one-in-forty chance of dying of COVID or a roughly equal chance of being crippled by it.

So yes, those countries are being unnecessarily cautious when hundreds of their citizens are dying every day from COVID.

I think our difference here is that you are treating this as a personal freedom issue whereas I am thinking about the whole of humanity.

There is not a 1 in 40 chance of dying from Covid. Where are you getting your stats from?

162/100000 is the death rate in the UK.

If you care about humanity there are bigger causes of death than Covid.

 

[IMMY69]

I'm booked in for this Sunday afternoon...
Have to admit I'm feeling a tad bit nervous about it.

 

[OMB]

I'm booked in for this Sunday afternoon...
Have to admit I'm feeling a tad bit nervous about it.

Its all perfectly safe from personal experience. Family friends and I have taken both shots the and did see no side effects.

 

[IMMY69]

Its all perfectly safe from personal experience. Family friends and I have taken both shots the and did see no side effects.

Yes even my parents, my brother, his wife and both my in laws have had it.
A lot of my friends have it too. Even my own daughter has had her first jab

Some have had flue like symptoms but mostly just a pain in the arm.

I'm nervous because I have an auto immune disorder (Rheumatoid Arthritis) so I'm braced for a reaction.

 

[Robert]

Getting Pfizer this evening. Looking forward to it.

 

[IMMY69]

Getting Pfizer this evening. Looking forward to it.

Congrats.

Did you get a choice of Vacccine?
My booking doesn't mention which vaccine I'll be getting

 

[Robert]

There is not a 1 in 40 chance of dying from Covid. Where are you getting your stats from?

162/100000 is the death rate in the UK.

If you care about humanity there are bigger causes of death than Covid.

Worldometers.info.

4,263.527 cases and 125,580 fatalities in UK.

That is a 2.9% fatality rate.

Add to that the people whose lives have been impaired by organ damage and low oxygen levels and cannot work.

 

[Robert]

Congrats.

Did you get a choice of Vacccine?
My booking doesn't mention which vaccine I'll be getting

No, they just told me I will get Pfizer.

 

[Savak]

Only Pfizer or Moderna. Nothing else

 

[James]

My mum and stepdad have had their first jabs now. Also my dad, and my mother-in-law, and my father-in-law, and my grandmother. Also my wife’s aunt. A mixture of Pfizer and AstraZeneca.

Apart from a few ropey symptoms for a day or so afterwards (in some cases), no issues at all. These are good vaccines.

My wife gets hers on Friday night.

 

[saeedhk]

I am having a Pfizer vaccine in two weeks. I had a choice between Sinovac and Pfizer. I chose Pfizer.

 

[Robert]

No, they just told me I will get Pfizer.

Got AZ though for some reason. The Army and Royal Navy were helping out the NHS staff. I was injected by a very polite young infantryman.

 

[Pakpak]

My second dose due soon!

 

[Giannis]

My second dose due soon!

Did your tail stop growing?

 

[Pakpak]

Did your tail stop growing?

Afraid so!

 

[Varun]

Afraid so!

They have half your life data uploaded on the cloud, now it's time for the other half. #Muhahaha

 

[IMMY69]

This is a poor analogy. 1. Seat belts are a choice, if you dont want to wear one, you dont drive a vehicle but can still reach your destination. 2. You dont inject a seat belt into your body, its a temp mesasure while driving.



I dont think you understood my point. Now 9 countries have suspended the Oxford vaccine due to blood clots emerging with some people dying from the vaccine. Therefore even if there is 0.5% chance of myself suffering like those who are right now, it makes no sense to take it. Again Vaccines dont stop transmission, so doing it for others is incorrect too. Do you think these 9 countries are stupid in doing so?

New figures just out that show people who are vaccinated are 30pctvless likely to infect someone else..

This is really good news

 

[Robert]

New figures just out that show people who are vaccinated are 30pctvless likely to infect someone else..

This is really good news

And the more that take the vaccine, the less likely it is to transmit.

 

[James]

Any side effects [MENTION=7774]Robert[/MENTION] ?

 

[Saj]

Just booked my vaccine appointment for next week.

 

[moghul]

Just booked my vaccine appointment for next week.

Wonderful.

 

[moghul]

I am having a Pfizer vaccine in two weeks. I had a choice between Sinovac and Pfizer. I chose Pfizer.

Doing the right thing, its no brainer.

 

[moghul]

Only Pfizer or Moderna. Nothing else

No vaccine is better then these two .

 

[Giannis]

No vaccine is better then these two .

Sputnik V has a higher efficacy rate from what I've read and I think sinovac is the only one that works against the Brazilian variant that will eventually spread across the world so can't really rank vaccines unless it has obvious red flags

 

[kaayal]

The real life impact of vaccination in Israel. Hats off to them.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-021-00531-0?fbclid=IwAR0P6dXqyDcPdsDfhkPeBvyN4ljU8aj4bfC8tCPdr73JfBmLcvG9p2BuJyg#Fig1

 

[moghul]

The real life impact of vaccination in Israel. Hats off to them.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-021-00531-0?fbclid=IwAR0P6dXqyDcPdsDfhkPeBvyN4ljU8aj4bfC8tCPdr73JfBmLcvG9p2BuJyg#Fig1

Wow, very impressive, still some pinheads doubt about the need for vaccine.

 

[Stewie]

At this point it’s really a no brainer. When the pandemic had just begun and the shock was set in, people were recycling all sorts of conspiracy theories about it. It’s man made, it’s 5G, it’s the americans, it’s the Chinese, this and that.. we heard all sorts of crap about how eventually someone will announce they have the cure and make billions from it. The fact that so many countries now have their own vaccines for it, and nobody ended up profiting from it all in world shattering proportions just proves all those people wrong. Do all these vaccines have microchips in them now, I wonder.

I think there will always be a very small minority of people who will continue to cling on to these ridiculous ideas and I wish they would just wise up and accept the reality that this pandemic was a very dangerous and natural phenomenon and we all owe it to each other to protect ourselves. Get the vaccine so you don’t endanger the future and health of your families!

 

[sweep_shot]

Covid: NHS warns of 'significant reduction' in vaccines

The NHS has warned of a "significant reduction in the weekly supply" of Covid vaccines in England next month in a letter to local health organisations.

The letter says there has been a "reduction in national inbound vaccines supply" and asks organisations to "ensure no further appointments are uploaded" to booking systems in April.

The health secretary said it was a "standard" letter.

The BBC understands no-one who has booked a vaccine should lose a slot.

Asked about it during a Downing Street coronavirus briefing, Matt Hancock said the NHS regularly sent out "technical letters" that explained the "ups and downs" of supply.

BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said there would be fewer AstraZeneca vaccines than expected because of issues with the company's international supply.

BBC health editor Hugh Pym said he understood that the vaccine supply issue related to a consignment from a manufacturer in India, with half of the order delayed by four weeks.

A spokesperson for the AstraZeneca said: "Our UK domestic supply chain is not experiencing any disruption and there is no impact on our delivery schedule."

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-56435549.

 

[Robert]

I am a man in my 30s with none of the clinical vulnerabilities, so I am low down on the priority list. Regardless I think I have quite a few antibodies.

My wife and daughter almost certainly had Covid early in the first wave, over a year ago now. My wife brought it home from work, we think. Both had bad coughs and a loss of taste for a good 3 weeks. We all did the 14-day household self-isolation at the time.

I meanwhile had a loss of senses and felt really run down in the first half of December after I went back to the office, so I may have had it also.

My parents got the Oxford vaccine last week. Both felt a bit dodgy for the day and a half after, but they are back to 100% now and feeling very much protected.

Feeling a bit ropey today, headachey and mildly nauseous. Taking Paracetamol. Should be ok tomorrow.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

My elderly grandmother got her vaccine recently and alhumdulilah didnt experience symptoms. It felt a real blessing to go and see her without fearing the worst.

I woulf describe it as one of the most happy days of my life ( no exaggeration). She has been living with my uncles and been fine but many of us grandkids refrained from visiting and when we did we kept apart at a major distance.

 

[Giannis]

The real life impact of vaccination in Israel. Hats off to them.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-021-00531-0?fbclid=IwAR0P6dXqyDcPdsDfhkPeBvyN4ljU8aj4bfC8tCPdr73JfBmLcvG9p2BuJyg#Fig1

Hats off? They refused to vaccinated the Palestinians whose land they occupy.

 

[PetroDollars]

No vaccine is better then these two .

I can bet after all the dust is settled and all results measured, the Oxford one will be well ahead of the rest.
After all, it was made by oxford while the rest were for profit ventures.

But yes i wouldnt take a vaccine other then those 3,

 

[Muddaser]

Had my second dose of the Pfizer vaccine last week.

No issues for both jabs except a sore arm and tireness for a couple of days.

 

[Robert]

I woke up feeling better today [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION]. Just 24 hours of aches and tiredness as my immune system reinforced.

 

[James]

I woke up feeling better today [MENTION=1842]James[/MENTION]. Just 24 hours of aches and tiredness as my immune system reinforced.

Excellent!

 

[LongHorn]

Wow, very impressive, still some pinheads doubt about the need for vaccine.

Answer this

Canada has had abysmal vaccination rates

Yet Canada too has seen declines in cases and deaths similar to countries like US which has had much more aggressive vaccinations

 

[LongHorn]

The real life impact of vaccination in Israel. Hats off to them.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-021-00531-0?fbclid=IwAR0P6dXqyDcPdsDfhkPeBvyN4ljU8aj4bfC8tCPdr73JfBmLcvG9p2BuJyg#Fig1

Chile's coronavirus crisis deepens, despite being one of the world's quickest to vaccinate
https://news.yahoo.com/chile-pandemic-covid-cases-rising-081328390.html

For every Israel, there is a Chile

Some countries vaccinated a lot, and saw declines
Other vaccinated a lot, and did not see declines

Some countries did not vaccinate and saw spikes
Other countries did not vaccinate and saw cases decline

 

[kaayal]

Chile's coronavirus crisis deepens, despite being one of the world's quickest to vaccinate
https://news.yahoo.com/chile-pandemic-covid-cases-rising-081328390.html

For every Israel, there is a Chile

Some countries vaccinated a lot, and saw declines
Other vaccinated a lot, and did not see declines

Some countries did not vaccinate and saw spikes
Other countries did not vaccinate and saw cases decline

You can’t compare both as Israel primarily got vaccinated with Pfizer which has 95% efficacy and the major contributor in Chile’s vaccination programme was Sinovac which has only 50% efficacy. Still from the article you shared it says,

People over 70, most of whom have already been vaccinated, have almost disappeared from our emergency rooms. Now we have younger patients, but some gravely ill.

In Israel also younger population are getting infected but hospitalisation is gradually decreasing after getting their second dose. See the graph in the article that i shared.

Vaccination does decrease the cases but the quality of vaccine also matters i think.

 

[kabbirann]

Had a sore arm after the first dose of Pfizer. Still waiting for the 2nd dose and it's the second dose that apparently gives you flu like symptoms for upto 48 hrs which is a bit of a bummer, as because of mask wearing, have not had any colds or flu's last year.

 

[King-Misbah]

You can’t compare both as Israel primarily got vaccinated with Pfizer which has 95% efficacy and the major contributor in Chile’s vaccination programme was Sinovac which has only 50% efficacy. Still from the article you shared it says,

People over 70, most of whom have already been vaccinated, have almost disappeared from our emergency rooms. Now we have younger patients, but some gravely ill.

In Israel also younger population are getting infected but hospitalisation is gradually decreasing after getting their second dose. See the graph in the article that i shared.

Vaccination does decrease the cases but the quality of vaccine also matters i think.

What are your thoughts on the Oxford vaccine?

 

[mazkhan]

Theres too much confusion

In February 2nd 2021 france said astra zeneca should be for under 65s

And shouldn't be given to people older

It then got suspended totally

And they've now allowed it back

Well now guess what they've said it should only be taken by people over 55 and not administered to young people


You couldn't make this up

Oxford quality

Look at the confusion and people are meant to trust when they can't even make their mind up and back sliding every other week

 

[KingKhanWC]

Norwegian experts say deadly blood clots were caused by the AstraZeneca covid vaccine
“Our theory that this is a powerful immune response most likely triggered by the vaccine, has been confirmed”, says professor and chief physician Pål Andre Holme. Three Norwegian health workers under the age of 50 have been hospitalized. One is dead.

“The reason for the condition of our patients has been found”, chief physician and professor Pål Andre Holme announced to Norwegian national newspaper VG today.

Holme led the work to find out why three health workers under the age of 50 were hospitalized with serious blood clots and low levels of blood platelets after having taken the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine. One of the health workers died on Monday.

The experts have worked on a theory that it was in fact the vaccine which triggered and unexpected and powerful immune response - a theory they now believe they have confirmed.

“Our theory that this is a powerful immune response which most likely was caused by the vaccine has been found. In collaboration with experts in the field from the University Hospital of North Norway HF, we have found specific antibodies against blood platelets that can cause these reactions, and which we know from other fields of medicine, but then with medical drugs as the cause of the reaction”, the chief physician explains to VG.

https://sciencenorway.no/covid19/no...used-by-the-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine/1830510

Makes no difference to my view, as I was never going to take any vaccine for covid.

People should consider if Oxford vaccine is worth the risk , its proven now.

 

[KingKhanWC]

New figures just out that show people who are vaccinated are 30pctvless likely to infect someone else..

This is really good news

Less people infected the better. The issue is new variants. Flu vaccines have been around for years now, the flu is still here.

 

[Stewie]

Less people infected the better. The issue is new variants. Flu vaccines have been around for years now, the flu is still here.

All flu viruses keep changing and they are here to stay. Same with covid-19. It’s here to stay. We may have to get yearly boosters. It’s not one of those that will leave and won’t come back, sadly that’s the reality of it. I think just like the regular vaccine, they will keep producing newer vaccines every year and we will have to keep ourselves updated on them. Otherwise the different variants can cause serious problems.

 

[KingKhanWC]

All flu viruses keep changing and they are here to stay. Same with covid-19. It’s here to stay. We may have to get yearly boosters. It’s not one of those that will leave and won’t come back, sadly that’s the reality of it. I think just like the regular vaccine, they will keep producing newer vaccines every year and we will have to keep ourselves updated on them. Otherwise the different variants can cause serious problems.

Great profits for the manufactures.

 

[shaz619]

Is Astra Zeneca halal ? not sure if chimps have been blessed

 

[Giannis]

Is Astra Zeneca halal ? not sure if chimps have been blessed

some tiktok shaykh said it is