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That is such a typical left-wing fantasy world list..
But i am not a left wing person. i did share it because i thought it is sound advice

Pretty much all of those suggestions require purchasing goods/services from companies that generally won't be based in the local area.

Bro do we have any other option? If you have suggestions please share with us

The best one is definitely the recommendation to "drive through the neighborhood". Destroying the planet and feeding the large corporations at the same time! Incredible!
The point of this is not using petrol but to get to know your neighbourhood and community people of all spectrums of society

As to your point(well non-point really) about solving poverty in Africa, I'll provide you with a real way that poverty can be solved in these countries - Accountability. The people who run these charities know that if they do solve the problems of poverty in these countries then people will stop donating money. Therefore many of these charities waste the money on short-term solutions and paying off the right people so that the problem never goes away therefore they can keep appealing to people to get more donations. If charities were more accountable then they would be forced into putting money into long term projects that will actually improve the lives of those living in the poorest parts of Africa.

erm why do you assume africa needs charity? Europe colonized it for a reason. so did muslims and romans and byzantines and alexander and the persians and many others
 
erm why do you assume africa needs charity? Europe colonized it for a reason. so did muslims and romans and byzantines and alexander and the persians and many others

Yes it was for a reason. They all colonised Africa for the resources that the continent holds. However you need large amounts of capital and highly skilled labour to actually utilise those resources which most of these countries simply don't possess.

These countries need aid to provide them with basic infrastructure to kick start their economies and from there they can nationalise industries that utilise natural resources such as Oil, Diamonds etc. and start to achieve economic development.
 
Africa can only develop/progress if it suffers just like pakistan and afghanistan.

Also for capital. well i dont believe in capitalism. but is it possible in capitalism for all the countries who colonized africa to RETURN WHAT THEY OWE?
 
Africa can only develop/progress if it suffers just like pakistan and afghanistan.

Also for capital. well i dont believe in capitalism. but is it possible in capitalism for all the countries who colonized africa to RETURN WHAT THEY OWE?
 
North koreas secret plans revealed!

The adventures of lil kim
 

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Africa can only develop/progress if it suffers just like pakistan and afghanistan.

Also for capital. well i dont believe in capitalism. but is it possible in capitalism for all the countries who colonized africa to RETURN WHAT THEY OWE?

What suffering should they be forced to go through?

And is that not what the West is doing through charities? But I thought you didn't like the idea of charities helping Africa?
 
What suffering should they be forced to go through?

And is that not what the West is doing through charities? But I thought you didn't like the idea of charities helping Africa?

look do you prefer taking charity or working
 
look do you prefer taking charity or working

I prefer work over charity however the people of Africa need charity to provide them with the education and the farms and the water so they can work their way out of poverty.
 
Environment!!!!!!!!!!@#$?

Oil from Exxon spill in Arkansas flowing into wetlands

The ExxonMobil oil spill in Mayflower, Arkansas is getting worse: more than a week after Canadian tar sands erupted from a pipeline, residents of the small town say area wetlands are becoming polluted with the crude.

Over 20 homes in Mayflower were evacuated shortly after the a leak in Exxon’s Pegasus pipeline on March 29, but the company’s attempt at correcting the disaster has apparently only made things worse. Activists with the group Tar Sands Blockade went to rural Arizona over the weekend to document the oil spill, and discovered that power washers used by Exxon to clean up the town has moved the crude into nearby wetlands.

“That’s right,” reads a post published on the group’s websiteover the weekend, “in order to get the tar sands out of the neighborhood where it spilled and out of sight and into one place for cleanup, Exxon power-washed the excess into a wetland area which had already been affected by the spill.”

Exxon agents and law enforcement officers have kept the affected area largely on lock-down since the spill was spotted a week and a half ago, and a no-fly zone in the vicinity has made monitoring the damages near impossible for environmentalists. Tar Sands Blockade activists managed to make their way through the woods shortly before sundown over the weekend, though, and were able to get an up-close look at how severe the spreading actually is.

“It was just before sunset, and most of the workers had gone home. We had tried to access this area before but always been kept out by workers and police,” the group says. Once they made it to the wetlands, there they discovered that oil power-washed through the city’s storm drains have emptied out into an area that would normally be inhabited by a number of wildlife species.

Those wetlands, the activists write, “now serves as a storage area for diluted bitumen spilled by Exxon’s negligence.”

During their on-the-ground investigation in the swamp, the activists also located what is believed to be a section of the Pegasus pipeline that has been outfitted with a clamp. “There are multiple pipelines in the area and we can’t absolutely verify that this is Pegasus, but we compared it to photos of other oil pipelines built in the 1940s and they are similar,” they write.

“Do you think that this pipe should be carrying heated, pressurized, corrosive tar sands bitumen?” asks the group alongside a photograph of the archaic-looking pipeline.

And while animals that call those wetlands home are the ones that are feeling the effects of the spill now, they aren’t alone. Tar Sands Blockade has been conducted interviews with Mayflower residents who have since developed a number of health issues in the days since the March 29 accident.

“I don’t have allergies,” a man who lives on Lake Conway going by the name “Duck” told the activists. “But now my sinuses are bothering me. My throat’s bothering me. My eyes water constantly. But they [Exxon] act like nothing’s wrong. They don’t have to live here, we do. And we’re not moving just because of them.”

Formally, ExxonMobil told Mayflower residents that the oil never made it to Lake Conway. Those that live in the area, however, say oil has indeed been “flowing” into the body of water since last week’s spill.

Source: http://rt.com/usa/wetlands-arkansas-oil-spill-520/ (check Images)

Alaska is the last greatest natural wilderness left in US
 
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I prefer work over charity however the people of Africa need charity to provide them with the education and the farms and the water so they can work their way out of poverty.

Its good that you are thinking about helping the africans :). That was my point. However consider this.

Charity is humiliating for all.Nobody likes to be depended on charity whether they are white or black or yellow etc.
Its man-made circumstances which force a person to live on charity. If they are man-made then man can find a solution. Any man. because our brains are exactly alike.

Matty take a step beck for a second. look at the effect of colonization on africa. European countries drew their own lines across a map according to their self-interests. They ignored local boundries, tribes were split between nations leading to war,famine,poverty,ignorance etc. STILL africa is being exploited but WE DONT KNOW THIS.

Now you may not know this but this similar pattern is repeated across all ex-colonies. from middle east to subcontinent to korea to latin america.
Do you think all these lands were all doom and gloom before the europeans came?
 
One of the Canadian banks , RBC is now starting to replace their permanent Canadian workers with temporary Indian workers ! A win win situation for the bank , their contracts can be renewed or terminated as required , not as many liabilities because they are not Canadian workers , they will work for less money .

This is a bank that makes billions of dollars in every quarter .


When financial crisis hits this bank , they might as well ask India to give them a bail out loan . I would rather watch my tax money get burned .


Sorry about the rant but had to get this off my chest . No wonder the bigwigs make that much .

I am feeling for the bank's customers dealing with bobble-heads!
 
Only when the last tree has been cut, the last river been poisoned, and the last fish has been killed, will man realize we cannot eat money~ Cree Indian proverb
 
The "lets aim to feed Africa" attitude is the reason that poverty is still a major problem across Africa. We should be aiming to help them feed themselves via better farming equipment, water projects to make more land arable etc.

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Apologies matty. I missed this post and just read it. great point
 
The "lets aim to feed Africa" attitude is the reason that poverty is still a major problem across Africa. We should be aiming to help them feed themselves via better farming equipment, water projects to make more land arable etc.

Yes and if they had natural resources to sell they would be able to sell them and feed themselves but other countries are fuelling their own greed by taking all they can .
 
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Harper's temporary wokers and immigration policies are taking Canada to a disaster. Half a million people are invited to Canada every year. God knows how they find work. The Canadian youth is hungry for work and on top of that the idiot brings in half a million people. Just last month we lost 55,000 jobs. The RBC saga isn't surprising, look what happened in the BC mine dilemma. The crime minister Harper needs to be booted out of the office in 2015.

It should be a criminal offense for a company to outsource its jobs outside of the country. If the current trend continues the wage and life quality will go down.

They are just creating more supply so everyone is forced to work for lower and lower wages . They don`t want unions anymore , it is getting harder to find permanent jobs . More contract based , temporary jobs become available and the middle class will suffer because it will be harder to plan their lives ahead . Ontario is hit the hardest , the situation is relatively better in other provinces where you will still be offered permanent work with benefits .

I don`t know what Indians are playing at either . If they don`t stop this , people are going to avoid hiring them because of what they are doing , without thinking about long term consequences . They may enjoy living with 6 different families under one roof but others don`t . Just allow one to get in aur saara tabbar India se utha ker le aayaiN ge . If that Indian is a Gujarati , he will try to bring in the whole Gujarat , preferably of the same caste !

They have made the trucking industry suffer quite a bit , lowering their costs by hiring people on cash . In turn , they try to cover up costs by getting involved in smuggling and drug trade : http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...ught_in_web_of_north_american_drug_trade.html
 
Also , the US has lowered its quota for H1 visas and now Indians are focusing more on Canada now . Those visits to India by Harper may have seemed random then but now its pretty clear the government is backing these moves .

On one hand they claim India`s economy is doing so well and then on the other hand you have them acting so desperate to get out of there . Are they even thinking about the cheap labour that they are providing , they will not be getting benefits , these are temporary contract positions and they will not be getting any respect from their Canadian colleagues .
 
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Apologies matty. I missed this post and just read it. great point

I have been following your posts and they are eye opening. Being a young guy i don't want to be ignorant or arrogant and ignore these issues which are very important. I know you want to raise awareness but in an nutshell could you summarise the core factors which you think would help beat the system? Because once i get my degree (UK) in normal circumstances a human being would want a job, save up for a house, get married, shop at the usual supermarkets and take part in various charity work. This is the picture which many have in there minds and i am no different but i also understand with my limited knowledge compared to you and many other people that we must do more with our lives and there are bigger issues but like you said its all about "how" we go about looking for these solutions because the picture we have painted in our heads on how we want to live our lives is not good enough? and in life i guess we will have to exceed our own expectations if we are to take things further.
 
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I am feeling for the bank's customers dealing with bobble-heads!

People are calling them and giving a piece of their mind . They are obviously blaming it on the " agency " they hired . Many have even decided to move their accounts and any dealing from RBC . I was going to open a savings account with them , but no way I am going to deal with them now .

PS , they actually bought Ally Financial`s Canadian operations a few months back . I know someone who worked there and the condition with which they sold it to RBC was that they have to take their employees as well . TD was also interested as Ally was doing really well but TD was not going to take their employees . Apparently , the whole purpose was to eliminate the competition and let the monopoly stay .

Now , I have heard that they mostly are getting rid of the Ally Financial employees .
 
People are calling them and giving a piece of their mind . They are obviously blaming it on the " agency " they hired . Many have even decided to move their accounts and any dealing from RBC . I was going to open a savings account with them , but no way I am going to deal with them now .

PS , they actually bought Ally Financial`s Canadian operations a few months back . I know someone who worked there and the condition with which they sold it to RBC was that they have to take their employees as well . TD was also interested as Ally was doing really well but TD was not going to take their employees . Apparently , the whole purpose was to eliminate the competition and let the monopoly stay .

Now , I have heard that they mostly are getting rid of the Ally Financial employees .
You should check fb's page 'Boycott Royal Bank Of Canada'. Looney, you are in for big surprise - Canadians lost 338,000 jobs to temporary workers in 2012 alone. No wonder we lost 55,000 jobs last month.

Its not only the big 5 banks are doing this - yes, that includes TD, CIBC etc, even Tim Hortons, McDonalds and Subways are bringing in temporary workers. What a mess this government has spread across the country. This trend has to stop ASAP before it gets out of control. Media has to play its role. A strong leadership is needed in the hands of Justin Trudeau.

I was a supporter of Harper, now I dislike him with passion. I can't wait for 2015.
 
Dear oh dear ^ :facepalm:

I have been following this very closely . This is outrageous and unacceptable !

Watch this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAcm_wYzQ1s


These people have no skills and they are being given a crash course , free of charge , by Canadians so they could replace them :facepalm: These banks are looting too much to fail any time soon so there is no excuse .

PS I just saw the Boycott RBC page and that Canadian flag picture is very apt . TD , Scotia are all doing this . I think eventually , I will have to move to Pakistan to get a job in Canada the way things are going . Even Pakistani banks are not as bad .

God knows how much **** we will be in by the time he leaves . I am going for Trudeau .
 
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^^ Aah the RBC situation is making me mad. And to think I'm planning to leave my government job to join the banking/finance sector. Oh boy...I need to plan ahead.
 
I was so proud of Canada but man I feel disgusted to my stomach. We are killing Canada by our own hands.
 
We need Liberals back in the government asap. Dunno why so many albertans vote conservative.
 
Yeah , everyone I know is furious about this , just get them started on this issue . I am trying not to think about it but given that I hoped to be in this sector as well after completing my education in this field , I am so ****ing mad about this . Here I am working and studying , relying on student loans only in the hope that I will have enough education , skills and experience to get me a good job . It all looks like a waste right now .

With so much debt after getting a degree having worked so hard for it , I am still not good enough because I am not an Indian working for relatively a lot less because I know when I go back home , It will convert to a larger amount in Indian rupees .
 
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Keynesian economincs-a short sarcastic guide

Ben Bernanke was Appointed head of the Federal Reserve by Bush and continued under obama. He is Credited with our current economic "recovery". He followed Alan Greenspan who was responsible fore the bubble and crash. Disclaimer:These arent strictly facts. Think about these points when you study economics.
 

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As a young Canadian I feel scared what's happening right now. I don't see my future due to this nasty practice. I'm pissed. In my early 20's is this the future I'm looking forward to?

Looney and other Canadians what do you personally think how the federal Conservatives will react to this mess?
 
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As a young Canadian I feel scared what's happening right now. I don't see my future due to this nasty practice. I'm pissed. In my early 20's is this the future I'm looking forward to?

Looney and other Canadians what do you personally think how the federal Conservatives will react to this mess?

Just need to get rid of Harper. He has proven nothing but a lappy of the US.
 
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As a young Canadian I feel scared what's happening right now. I don't see my future due to this nasty practice. I'm pissed. In my early 20's is this the future I'm looking forward to?

Looney and other Canadians what do you personally think how the federal Conservatives will react to this mess?

Same here , I`m in my early 20s as well and this is not the kind of thing I want to see happening in the country . My parents left Pakistan , not because of the security situation , but for a better future and opportunities for us .

This is allowed to happen with government`s backing , yaar . A company has to prove to the government they require a foreign worker because they cannot find someone in Canada . The random but frequent visits to India by Harper seem to make sense now . Moreover , the government has admitted the request to replace employees themselves !

Remember the Nexen and China deal ? Harper was not going to allow the deal to happen at any cost initially and then there was a sudden uturn :ibutt The more time this government spends in the office , the more I am convince they take rishwat .
 
I have been following your posts and they are eye opening. Being a young guy i don't want to be ignorant or arrogant and ignore these issues which are very important. I know you want to raise awareness but in an nutshell could you summarise the core factors which you think would help beat the system? Because once i get my degree (UK) in normal circumstances a human being would want a job, save up for a house, get married, shop at the usual supermarkets and take part in various charity work. This is the picture which many have in there minds and i am no different but i also understand with my limited knowledge compared to you and many other people that we must do more with our lives and there are bigger issues but like you said its all about "how" we go about looking for these solutions because the picture we have painted in our heads on how we want to live our lives is not good enough? and in life i guess we will have to exceed our own expectations if we are to take things further.

Well you have to understand is that you should collect information and advice from all sides and then decide what to do. But you cant do this until you know how the modern keynesian economic system works. This system is the only system of economics applied nowadays.

And I am just like you. Im gna start work and then apparently I HAVE to do postgraduate studies as well which may take 3-4 years. Just to give you an idea. Getting a DDS degree from US costs about $80,000/year for foreigners excluding living food etc...The only way is to get a loan. Now tell me when I take a loan of 30,000 why do I have to pay back 80,000? Because this system cannot survive without usury/Interest. It will die.
As a result this system is designed to cage our minds and bodies to serving it.
Now I realize that we have to still earn $$ because $$ is everything in the modern world. At the same time we have to protect ourselves from the system. We should study into how americans behaved during the bubble and what they bought etc...and just dont do their mistakes so that when the next crash occurs our homes are not foreclosed.

My first advice would be to use, where ever humanly possible, never take a loan unless from family, friends,neighbors etc. Also avoid money you cant see(credit cards).
Dont use banks for making money i.e stock markets etc....because then you would only be strengthening the system. Personally i think it is better to be a little poorer than to do that.
As to where to place your savings. well i think your mattress is as safe a place as any bank at this point in time but I honestly dont know.
You are seeing what is happening in cyprus. When we both actually start saving money, maybe well find solutions.
Thats all i can think of now because like you i havent actually started serving this system just yet. Still have 1 week of freedom left. Ill use it to learn more and I advice you to do the same
Its not easy.This system is at war with Planet earth so it is much stronger then all of us. before taking any decision in our future lives we should probably follow what Jinnah said" Think 100 times before making a decision....."
What do you think? Any advice you want to give me?

In the end just remember whatever you learn about modern economics share it with others so everyone can see the bigger picture. I hope it helps.
 
Private local businesses are dying. we should support them. Invest in your friends grocery store etc.
 
Also for a crash course into how the financial mltdown occured watch INSIDE JOB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1645089/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
'Inside Job' provides a comprehensive analysis of the global financial crisis of 2008, which at a cost over $20 trillion, caused millions of people to lose their jobs and homes in the worst recession since the Great Depression, and nearly resulted in a global financial collapse. Through exhaustive research and extensive interviews with key financial insiders, politicians, journalists, and academics, the film traces the rise of a rogue industry which has corrupted politics, regulation, and academia. It was made on location in the United States, Iceland, England, France, Singapore, and China.
 
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Well you have to understand is that you should collect information and advice from all sides and then decide what to do. But you cant do this until you know how the modern keynesian economic system works. This system is the only system of economics applied nowadays.

And I am just like you. Im gna start work and then apparently I HAVE to do postgraduate studies as well which may take 3-4 years. Just to give you an idea. Getting a DDS degree from US costs about $80,000/year for foreigners excluding living food etc...The only way is to get a loan. Now tell me when I take a loan of 30,000 why do I have to pay back 80,000? Because this system cannot survive without usury/Interest. It will die.

What student loans make you repay $80,000 on a $30,000 principal?
 
There are currently close to 50,000 temporary workers in Toronto alone! :facepalm:
 
What student loans make you repay $30,001 on a $30,000 principal?

I made an alteration to show that my point still stands correct. I dont know that much about student loans(only from friends) because i never seriously considered settling in canada/us/britain (not that I hate these countries, these are beautiful countries) and thats why I came to pakistan.

My experience with loans is watching the torture my father had to go through after having borrowed S.R.200,000 from a Saudi "Islamic" bank and then having to pay back more than that.
The concept of interest is wrong and unethical.

How do student loans work mostly? Are they predatory in nature?
 
I made an alteration to show that my point still stands correct. I dont know that much about student loans(only from friends) because i never seriously considered settling in canada/us/britain (not that I hate these countries, these are beautiful countries) and thats why I came to pakistan.

My experience with loans is watching the torture my father had to go through after having borrowed S.R.200,000 from a Saudi "Islamic" bank and then having to pay back more than that.
The concept of interest is wrong and unethical.

How do student loans work mostly? Are they predatory in nature?

Can you please explain why you believe interest to be unethical and wrong? At the end of the day it is all about opportunity costs. If they hadn't loaned that money to you then they could have used that capital in another way such as investing on the stock market which would have made them profit. Therefore without the concept of interest banks simply wouldn't give out loans especially when you factor in inflation aswell.
 
Can you please explain why you believe interest to be unethical and wrong?

At the end of the day it is all about opportunity costs. If they hadn't loaned that money to you then they could have used that capital in another way such as investing on the stock market which would have made them profit. Therefore without the concept of interest banks simply wouldn't give out loans especially when you factor in inflation aswell.

Well you answered most of the question yourself IMO. If those in power are motivated solely by profit how will they benefit the people who really need those loans?

For more insight study the global financial crisis not from the side of the banks but how it affects YOU!

and watch Inside Job
 
Big Pharma (and the evils of the health Industry)

Big Pharma made $711 bln overcharging seniors and disabled

The 11 largest drug companies have made $711 billion in profits in just a decade, largely due to overcharging Medicare, which does not seek out competitive prices and uses taxpayer funds to support Big Pharma.

Since Medicare is prohibited from purchasing drugs based on their cost, its prescription drug program has been making large payouts to drug companies that have overcharged the program for years, according to an analysis by Health Care for America Now (HCAN).

“There is nothing wrong with a company making profits – that’s what their supposed to do. But the drug industry’s profits are excessive as a result of overcharging American consumers and taxpayers,” writes Ethan Rome, executive director of HCAN, for the Huffington Post. “We pay significantly more than any other country for the exact same drugs.”

Rome notes that per capita drug spending in the US is 40 percent higher than in Canada, 75 percent greater than in Japan, and nearly 300 percent greater than Denmark.

The 11 largest global prescription drug companies have skyrocketed since the Medicare Part D prescription drug program was launched in 2006. The government health program enables seniors and the disabled to buy taxpayer-subsidized coverage for many of the most widely disseminated medicines. But Medicare is prohibited from negotiating prices with pharmaceutical companies or seeking out more cost-effective drugs, thereby costing seniors, the disabled and American taxpayers billions of dollars more than some argue the drugs are worth.

Some lawmakers have recently urged Congress to consider changing the law, for the sake of cutting unnecessarily high costs. Wisconsin Democratic State Senator Jon Erpenbach told Wisconsin Public Radio that his state could save $1.2 billion over ten years if Congress were to allow Medicare to partake in prescription drug negotiations.

“I understand that pharmaceutical companies are for-profit companies,” he told the station last week. “I understand there’s a lot of research and development that goes into the products that they produce. All of that being said, it shouldn’t cost us more to get that kind of pharmaceuticals we need to have.”

But according to the HCAN analysis, Big Pharma spends very little on research and development. Even though pharmaceuticals cite research as a costly part of its operations, the money spent on this is exaggerated, Rome claims. Drug companies spend 19 times more on marketing than on research and development – another reason why the industry reaps so much in profits each year, he adds.

US President Barack Obama has long promised to repeal the prohibition on Medicare negotiations with drug companies, but has so far failed to do so. The Veterans Administration currently negotiates drug prices, and manufacturers argue that letting Medicare take over the negotiations would make no difference to the industry. Supporters of drug manufacturers also continue to emphasize the high costs of research and development.

But the Congressional Budget Office found that if Medicare were to receive the same bulk-purchasing discounts on prescription drugs that state Medicaid programs receive, the federal government would cut its spending by $137 billion over 10 years.

“Our politicians give all kinds of tax breaks and subsidies to big corporations that don’t need them: Big Oil. Wall Street. Companies that ship our jobs overseas,” Rome writes. “Every gift to a special interest, including allowing Big Pharma to overcharge Medicare, is an expenditure of scarce tax dollars. That’s called wasteful spending.”

Source:http://rt.com/usa/big-pharma-senior-disabled-576/

Now i have first hand experience of this as my father is a doctor.

Big pharma is evil. The only medicines that are sold are those that are profitable. Research into natural cures is scorned and discouraged(despite the fact that natural remedy>pill in 90% of cases)

In addition to this they bribe doctors so that they only prescribe medicine from only that pharmaceutical company just like any other capitalist venture
 
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A big lol on first/second generation Pakinstani immigrants to Canada ruing about other immigrants. Hypocrisy rules!!!

And amateurdentist, you really are amateur. You either have no idea of how real world works, or don't want to realize it.
 
I made an alteration to show that my point still stands correct. I dont know that much about student loans(only from friends) because i never seriously considered settling in canada/us/britain (not that I hate these countries, these are beautiful countries) and thats why I came to pakistan.

My experience with loans is watching the torture my father had to go through after having borrowed S.R.200,000 from a Saudi "Islamic" bank and then having to pay back more than that.
The concept of interest is wrong and unethical.

How do student loans work mostly? Are they predatory in nature?

Actually they're not (atleast here in Canada). I took out a 36,000 loan on 5.5%. No payments and interest during studies. Interest totals upto $10,000 over 10 years. So that's $1000/year in interest - which I think is relatively cheap, considering I wouldn't have been able to afford an education without it.

And depending on your income after graduation, you can put a hold on your repayments for 6 months at a time.
 
Actually they're not (atleast here in Canada). I took out a 36,000 loan on 5.5%. No payments and interest during studies. Interest totals upto $10,000 over 10 years. So that's $1000/year in interest - which I think is relatively cheap, considering I wouldn't have been able to afford an education without it.

And depending on your income after graduation, you can put a hold on your repayments for 6 months at a time.

Im sure there are loans like these but you have to understand.
Is it as easy for young people to go out and find jobs after they graduate? At a time when you are starting a family, thinking about college fund, coping with inflation and basically getting more and more responsibilities, that $1,000 per year may be helpful somewhere else.

What do you think?
 
and Bro RWAC thank you for explaining a little about student loans. I urge you to watch INSIDE JOB(2010) and then tell me your opinions about our current capitalist financial system
 
Gilly read the first post of this thread. I know someone has topay for education but this is the only time in history when people actually have topay to get knowledge.
 
Gilly read the first post of this thread. I know someone has topay for education but this is the only time in history when people actually have topay to get knowledge.

Dont get to caught up in history, the one thing that never changes is "everything changes and nothing stays the same".

Today will be different from yesterday and tomorrow will be different agian.
 
Why do people hate thinking? and reading? and knowledge? why are they offended by it? why are they offended if someone holds a view different to theirs?
 
Im sure there are loans like these but you have to understand.
Is it as easy for young people to go out and find jobs after they graduate? At a time when you are starting a family, thinking about college fund, coping with inflation and basically getting more and more responsibilities, that $1,000 per year may be helpful somewhere else.

What do you think?

Okay so you are saying that I shouldn't have taken that loan and instead put that $1,000 to use somewhere else. But I can vouch that I wouldn't have had my current job without that education, funded by that loan. I would probably be flipping burgers somewhere, and would have barely made ends meet, let alone have an excess $1000.

What I'm trying to say is in the present world, if you have to take a student loan (and pay some interest), you probably should, because it ends up paying you back many times over.
 
Education is your right. you should not be exploited if you want to achieve that right

It would be in an ideal world. But should we wait for that ideal world and stay uneducated (and risk putting ourselves and future generations in poverty)?
 
It would be in an ideal world. But should we wait for that ideal world and stay uneducated (and risk putting ourselves and future generations in poverty)?
Rwac i am educated. i know the power of education.thats why it should be free. Im not saying we boycott universities,we attend universities and learn but its not a crime to be aware of what really is happening in the world and not what FOX and SKY tell us as the "real Issues"
 
Okay so you are saying that I shouldn't have taken that loan and instead put that $1,000 to use somewhere else. But I can vouch that I wouldn't have had my current job without that education, funded by that loan. I would probably be flipping burgers somewhere, and would have barely made ends meet, let alone have an excess $1000.

What I'm trying to say is in the present world, if you have to take a student loan (and pay some interest), you probably should, because it ends up paying you back many times over.

Jinnah said" think 100 times before making a decision and then stick to it like a man. If you followed this thought process(Which i know you did), then i agree with you. You should do what you think is right after carefully weighing all the pros and cons involved in making that decision and also after studying other possible solutions.
Analyze and dont blindly follow others
 
Jinnah said" think 100 times before making a decision and then stick to it like a man. If you followed this thought process(Which i know you did), then i agree with you. You should do what you think is right after carefully weighing all the pros and cons involved in making that decision and also after studying other possible solutions.
Analyze and dont blindly follow others

Agree on that. I analyzed the situation. No loan and no education vs loan with education. The net payoff in second situation seemed much higher than the first.
 
Some more things to ponder!
 

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Same here , I`m in my early 20s as well and this is not the kind of thing I want to see happening in the country . My parents left Pakistan , not because of the security situation , but for a better future and opportunities for us .

This is allowed to happen with government`s backing , yaar . A company has to prove to the government they require a foreign worker because they cannot find someone in Canada . The random but frequent visits to India by Harper seem to make sense now . Moreover , the government has admitted the request to replace employees themselves !

Remember the Nexen and China deal ? Harper was not going to allow the deal to happen at any cost initially and then there was a sudden uturn :ibutt The more time this government spends in the office , the more I am convince they take rishwat .
Thousands and thousands of companies operating in Canada are bringing in foreign temporary workers in Canada. They are attracted to this program because it allows them to pay low wages to temporary workers. Now hear the surprise: The Ontario Ministry of Education and Attorney General are in this mess as well.

If this trend doesn't stop here the Canadian economy will eventually collapse.

http://afl.org/index.php/Download-d...SS_ALMOs-under-the-TFW-program_2013Feb04.html
 
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Connect the dots like you used to do as kids learning drawing!!!!

Jimmy Carter: Israel has dropped the two-state solution for a ‘Greater Israel’

ed note–a very revealing statement from Carter, the only deficiency of which is his assertion that Israel plans on stopping at the Jordan River.
mondoweiss.net
Speaking in Jerusalem today President Jimmy Carter said Israel has turned a corner in its foreign policy and “abandoned” a two-state solution for a “Greater Israel.”
“The two-state solution has basically been abandoned and we are now moving towards a Greater Israel, or Eretz Israel taking over all of the land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River,” said President Carter.

Concluding a two-day tour of Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories alongside former president of Ireland, Mary Robinson, and former prime minister of Norway, Gro Harlem Brundtland, President Carter singled out Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (who has refused to meet with the former American president on his previous trips to Israel) and lamented the lack of “political will” from Israeli officials. I asked the President if it was Israel’s long-standing apartheid-style policies, a two-tier system that has existed since 1948, rather then the leanings of the current leadership that has prevented the possibility of an independent Palestinian state. President Carter affirmed his position that every previous Prime Minister in earnest sought a negotiated solution:
I think for the first time in my memory of the mid-east peace process we have reached a crisis stage because of all of the previous prime ministers of Israel have been detectably and provenly committed to a two state solution, working with other nations in the world including the United States and European countries and the Arab countries as you know. That is our policy…and it seems to be abandoned.
“It was clear that hope has faded of a general two-state solution, so we need to change the dynamic,” continued President Robinson whose voice carried a sincerity for her concern of the conditions Palestinians live under. In particular she referenced Israel’s “national parks” in East Jerusalem which have expropriated Palestinian private property under the delusive heading of conservation. President Robinson said “I think what is really worrying, and I’ve been thinking about this, is the lack of accountability to what is happening in East Jerusalem, to what is happening since 1970, to what is happening with the so-called facts on the ground. There is no accountability.”
The global leaders are expected to travel to Cairo tomorrow to meet with Egyptian officials in the next phase of their Elders tour, an organization founded by Nelson Mandela comprised of some of the world’s most influential former heads of state. Since the group’s founding in 2009, Israel’s unchecked expansion into the West Bank and human rights in the region—including gender issues and abuses committed by the Palestinian authorities—has been a chief priority. President Carter in particular is an outspoken critic of Israel’s path toward what he calls an “inevitable apartheid,” if Israel does not change its current path.
“The only result of a one state-move, which I call a catastrophe, will be an inevitable move towards apartheid, or a willingness by the Israelis, by the Jewish citizens of Israel to relinquish political control to perhaps an Arab majority. Those are the only two options. And my prayer is that this will not happen,” said President Carter.
Source: http://www.shoah.org.uk/2013/03/16/...52653973065447":"og.likes"}&action_ref_map=[]

Look at iraq, syria, egypt,lebanon. saudi jordan turkey are already in their pockets....

but never despair. truth will always triumph
and they are more scared of us than we are of them. that is why they will be cruel and we will never ever have the capability of being as cruel as them
 

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Is this wrong?

Ask yourself this Amateurdentist,
Do you love the jews as much as you love the muslims.
Do you love budda as much as you love allah.
Do you love americans as much as you love Pakistanis.
Do you love Bernanke as much as you love yourself.


This will give you your answer on how much you divide people.
 
Ask yourself this Amateurdentist,
Do you love the jews as much as you love the muslims.

YES I DO! I love jews. i hate zionists. i have met jews. i have eaten in their home and attended rallies in support of palestine with them. http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/

Do you love budda as much as you love allah.

Erm budha is a man. Allah is God. Do you love your wife as much as you love Hillary clinton?

Do you love americans as much as you love Pakistanis.

yeah i do. thats why i bothered to do my own research into the financial meltdown in 2008 which cost millions of poor ordinary americans their homes and savings at the expense of the banks

Do you love Bernanke as much as you love yourself.

well i dont love him but i respect him because the way he thinks has taught me alot.

This will give you your answer on how much you divide people.

The world was not divided before? which Nirvana of yours did I divide?
 
Is this wrong?

YES I DO! I love jews. i hate zionists. i have met jews. i have eaten in their home and attended rallies in support of palestine with them. http://www.nkusa.org/aboutus/



Erm budha is a man. Allah is God. Do you love your wife as much as you love Hillary clinton?



yeah i do. thats why i bothered to do my own research into the financial meltdown in 2008 which cost millions of poor ordinary americans their homes and savings at the expense of the banks



well i dont love him but i respect him because the way he thinks has taught me alot.



The world was not divided before? which Nirvana of yours did I divide?

It was to show how we divide everything, be it sexual orientation, religion, race, nationality, politicaly, ethnically and even sport. We all do it we align ourselves to a group, section or party.
 
ADDRESSED TO ALL

Look at what the SYSTEM does to people. Denial is always there in those who DONT KNOW!

SubhanAllah. And REMEMBER YOUR LORD IS NOT ONE EYED~Muhammad(PBUH)
 
I wont stop untill YOU ALL LISTEN TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I wouldnt be obsessing about this if i didnt think it was important. I feel it is more important that the 8 page Game of thrones thread for example(only my view). And if PP gets tired of me I will go somewhere else. I will try my best to not hurt anyones feelings or offend their beliefs but all humans are prone to error, mistake because we are fallible.

And what is the point of PP? We have people with so many diverse backgrounds. Its a melting pot of cultures. We should leave the wars for the real world and focus on the real issues that affect us all.

In anycase I only have a week or 2 before i start working so you wont have to suffer my sermons for long :yk

A reminder.
I have every right to say what i want. I cant believe i am telling this to "liberals"
Actually I can :)
 
All these 100 people will be as rich as me and you when they return to who they belong.

May Allah never giove me too much money so i am not accountable for it.
 
All these 100 people will be as rich as me and you when they return to who they belong.

May Allah never giove me too much money so i am not accountable for it.

Ameen! thankyou brother

Please people leave your comments here. I want to know if i am making sense to anyone
 
Jimmy Carter: Israel has dropped the two-state solution for a ‘Greater Israel’


Source: http://www.shoah.org.uk/2013/03/16/...52653973065447":"og.likes"}&action_ref_map=[]

Look at iraq, syria, egypt,lebanon. saudi jordan turkey are already in their pockets....

but never despair. truth will always triumph
and they are more scared of us than we are of them. that is why they will be cruel and we will never ever have the capability of being as cruel as them

If you want people to listen to you I would recommend using credible sources rather than ones that just copy and paste things posted on other websites(which again don't look all that credible and neutral) that make glaring mistakes such as calling him "President Jimmy Carter" instead of "former President Jimmy Carter".

Also considering the way you are pushing away any opinion that is not your own without really considering it's merit, perhaps it is YOU who is the perfect example of what the "system" you talk of does to people...
 
If you want people to listen to you I would recommend using credible sources rather than ones that just copy and paste things posted on other websites(which again don't look all that credible and neutral) that make glaring mistakes such as calling him "President Jimmy Carter" instead of "former President Jimmy Carter".

Also considering the way you are pushing away any opinion that is not your own without really considering it's merit, perhaps it is YOU who is the perfect example of what the "system" you talk of does to people...
Did you actually question bbc and sky before? do you know what bbc did in iran in 1953. READ and DONT IGNORE THIS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ajax
U.S. media coverage
When Mossadegh called for the dissolution of the Majlis in August 1953, the editors of the New York Times gave the opinion that: "A plebiscite more fantastic and farcical than any ever held under Hitler or Stalin is now being staged in Iran by Premier Mossadegh in an effort to make himself unchallenged dictator of the country."[98]
A year after the coup, the New York Times wrote on 6 August 1954, that a new oil "agreement between Iran and a consortium of foreign oil companies" was "good news indeed".[99]
"Costly as the dispute over Iranian oil has been to all concerned, the affair may yet be proved worthwhile if lessons are learned from it: Underdeveloped countries with rich resources now have an object lesson in the heavy cost that must be paid by one of their number which goes berserk with fanatical nationalism. It is perhaps too much to hope that Iran's experience will prevent the rise of Mossadeghs in other countries, but that experience may at least strengthen the hands of more reasonable and more far-seeing leaders. In some circles in Great Britain the charge will be pushed that American 'imperialism'—in the shape of the American oil firms in the consortium!—has once again elbowed Britain from a historic stronghold."[99]
[edit]Role of BBC's Persian service

Main article: BBC Persian
The British government used the BBC's Persian service for advancing its propaganda against Mosaddegh. Anti-Mosaddegh material were repeatedly aired on the radio channel to the extent that Iranian staff at the BBC Persian radio went on strike to protest the move[citation needed]. The documentary Cinematograph aired on 18 August 2011 on the anniversary of the coup. In it, BBC admitted for the first time to the role of BBC Persian radio as the propaganda arm of the British government in Iran. The Cinematograph narrator said:
The British government used the BBC Persian radio for advancing its propaganda against Mosaddegh and anti-Mosaddegh material were repeatedly aired on the radio channel to the extent that Iranian staff at the BBC Persian radio went on strike to protest the move.
The documentary quoted a 21 July 1951 classified document in which a Foreign Office official thanked the British ambassador for his proposals that were precisely followed by the BBC Persian radio to strengthen its propaganda against Mosaddegh:
The BBC had already made most of the points which you listed, but they were very glad to have an indication from you of what was likely to be most effective and will arrange their programme accordingly... We should also avoid direct attacks on the 'ruling classes' since it seems probable that we may want to deal with a government drawn from those classes should Mosaddegh fall.
The document further stressed that the Foreign Office "shall be grateful for [the ambassador's] comments on the propaganda line we have proposed"
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Actually that website is operated partly by jewish rabbis and also by palestinians and western activists some of whom are based in isreal and some in the US/UK. They are members of neturei karta which is basically orthodox judaism as explained in the Torah. they dont follow the talmud and reject zionism. but then you would know this if you read what i wrote on WHY I LOVE JEWS!

Yeah I know i am retarded when i dont trust the mainstream media. Is it me who doesnt read or you?
 
If you can only talk in a hateful languagewith me then dont talk to me because you only prove my points. If you hate islam SHUT UP!
 
O Muslims spread islam through your actions but remember for some people Allah has placed a seal on their hearts just like he did on Abu jahals heart and Abu lahabs heart.

They will always consider you retards. never believe them because your religion teaches you a superior morality that is why islam is bound to succeed. No power on Earth can stop Islam. Can you now understand the sacrifices Bilal made for Islam? Or Ammar ibn Yaasir or Sumayyah and Yaasir? Read about hazrat bilal now and try to understand your religion
 
If you can only talk in a hateful languagewith me then dont talk to me because you only prove my points. If you hate islam SHUT UP!

:facepalm: Nobody is using hateful language when talking to you and nobody has even mentioned Islam apart from you... And you wonder why nobody is listening to you... :facepalm:
 
Wars start because one thinks they are superior to others.

I agree with what you say. That is why the USA, GB, and Israel feel superior to others and there are the only nations who openly support invading other countries.

But when it comes to the question of morality, a TRUE muslims will reflect the highest moral values.

Please note, of the 1.6 billion Muslims there are very few and far between TRUELY great muslims. In my personal opinion.
 
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