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Stupidity not bringing Wood back for the last few overs of the day, by far England's best bowler.
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This is a flat pitch only. England threw away too many wickets, lack of patience/application and poor shot selection. This is the kind of surface where you play for 2 days and score 600+.Now safe to say this pitch is fine .
Always the case in India. Best to kill the game in 1st innings, whether you bat first or second.India need to score minimum 350- 370 as chasing in 4th innings is very difficult
Yes ,in india game can completely change in just one session so india need to cash on in first innings itself .Always the case in India. Best to kill the game in 1st innings, whether you bat first or second.
During this bazball experiment their biggest belief is they could win on any pitch with any group of bowlers with strategies. They showed a lot of arrogance by even declaring innings like they did in the first test instead of thinking about physical condition of their oldish bowlers. They think they can set some clever field and get any batsman out with any bowler. Sure their batting was going to work for a w hile until batsmen start running out of form. But expecting bowlers to back up their crazy scoring rate and short innings was too ambitious.picking county second xi spinners vs india will result in this.
the eng selection has been absurd. liam dawson was the best spinner in the last county season but not picked. i think eng will pick 2 seamers from now on.
Spot on. First 30 overs or so you get bite out of the pitch. Then ball becomes soft where anyone can bat especially on a day 1 pitch. England missed the trick of not digging in.Ball not turning that much after it becomes softer. Does eng miss the trick by not batting long?
He is always athletic since under-19 days. He is lean. But not weak.I always wonder how Jaiswal plays. He looks too weak and unathletic. How did he even hit the six? Can he play 155+ deliveries?
Once the ball got older batting got easier. Not sure why they had to score a lot of runs in the first 25 or 30 overs.Poor and thoughtless batting from Eng here. Eng needed 400+ score in first inning.
It's just poor cricket. It can work on flat tracks or against poor bowling attacks but too risky against a good bowling sides on a decent track. They had to play the first 30 overs properly and then up the scoring. Or just play ball on merit. This is senseless. They threw away wickets due to their approach.Once the ball got older batting got easier. Not sure why they had to score a lot of runs in the first 25 or 30 overs.
Only on flat roads where pitch is a belter from ball 1 it makes sense as you need more overs to bowl out opposition. But on surfaces like this you have to pick your moments to attack. You need to have designated players to do the job.Naturally aggressive players like Botham, Kevin PIetersen have done the attacking job successfully in India.It's just poor cricket. It can work on flat tracks or against poor bowling attacks but too risky against a good bowling sides on a decent track. They had to play the first 30 overs properly and then up the scoring. Or just play ball on merit. This is senseless. They threw away wickets due to their approach.
How fast you score is meaningless if you can't score even 250 runs.
Contrast this with the utter disdain and dominance England showed against Pakistan in Pakistan. Levels between India and Pakistan in terms of Cricket intellect, quality. One good thing Zaka Ashraf did is to kick the paindu Babar on his backside.
Let us not even go there. They got rolled over against England's trundler army on flat pitch. Heck even Jack leach picked 15 wickets in 3 tests.I think Pakistan will give a much better fight to India in test matches played in India compared to England. Pak got better spinners and also better reverse swing bowlers with relatively old SG Balls compared to England team.
I think Pakistan will give a much better fight to India in test matches played in India compared to England. Pak got better spinners and also better reverse swing bowlers with relatively old SG Balls compared to England team.
You are correct. If Gill had opened that move would have even worked as he has this issue against left arm spinnersIt seems they just picked Hartley because he is a left arm spinner and India have lot of righties in their batting line-up. But Jaiswal came as a surprise and he took apart Hartley in some style.
India clearly ahead in the game and England would need to bowl better to stop India from getting to 400 runs tomorrow.
You are correct. If Gill had opened that move would have even worked as he has this issue against left arm spinners
Spin ball is about confidence. Imagine Gill trying to defend first pitched up ball and missing compared to getting his first international ball whacked for six. Jaiswal totally ruined him in one over.Hartley is pretty inexperienced and with the length he bowled, it won't trouble any batsman. These half trackers won't trouble any right hander. He will have to bowl better line and length tomorrow like his experienced fellowmen, Jack Leach, then he will get better output.
Who are these better spinners?I think Pakistan will give a much better fight to India in test matches played in India compared to England. Pak got better spinners and also better reverse swing bowlers with relatively old SG Balls compared to England team.