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Your thoughts on Jasprit Bumrah?

Bhuvi has proven himself to be useless on flat tracks.

Yadav is Yadav. I am sure even the most staunchest of Dhoni haters will struggle to support Yadav.

Rishi Dhawan is mediocre to the core.

Ishant is more of a test specialist.

Aaron is an unreliable spray gun but has been more accurate in recent times.

All we have is Shami and Bumrah for the pace department and one of them is injured now. :facepalm:

The most flimsiest pace attack ever.
 
Great bowler, best yorkers I have seen in the past 3 years. Could easily become the next best death bowler in ODIs. Real deal this kid, and a unique bowling action as well. Has a bit of Malinga of mid 2000s in him.
 
There is a bowler called Sandeep Sharma who gets booming swing inwards plus can swing it away from you too.

On a lively track, I would expect him to trouble ANY batsman in the world. Literally anyone.

Problem: He too gets carted on flat tracks. By even Zimbok batsmen.
 
The ball to get rid of Faulkner was perfect. He was the Yin to Umesh's Yan today.
 
You know there is something really wrong with Indian bowling when even a 10-0-40-2 gets a thread!

Those were some good yorkers he bowled there, especially the yorker to Faulkner
 
Caught him a while back while watching clips of Indian domestic cricket on the Willow channel. Seemed good then, and has backed it up today as well. Great figures on debut...Let's see where he goes from here.
 
Likely to go the usual way. Hope I'm wrong.

Guy presents an upright seam and extracts good bounce as well. So that is something positive.
 
Perhaps a good sign of why India should be looking at what young bowlers can actually do when they select them rather than just how close to 90mph they can get?
 
Executioner said:
You know there is something really wrong with Indian bowling when even a 10-0-40-2 gets a thread!

Those were some good yorkers he bowled there, especially the yorker to Faulkner
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To be really honest, 10-0-40-2 in Australia on these pitches is a performance even great bowlers would be happy about.

With that being said, there is not something wrong with Indian bowling. A LOT is.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
There is a bowler called Sandeep Sharma who gets booming swing inwards plus can swing it away from you too.

On a lively track, I would expect him to trouble ANY batsman in the world. Literally anyone.

Problem: He too gets carted on flat tracks. By even Zimbok batsmen.
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He'll be useless.
 
After Zaheer I stopped taking indian bowlers seriously. Zak was the only bowler with a brain. Rest of them are not bowlers they are dehaari wale mazdur.
 
Suleiman said:
Great bowler, best yorkers I have seen in the past 3 years. Could easily become the next best death bowler in ODIs. Real deal this kid, and a unique bowling action as well. Has a bit of Malinga of mid 2000s in him.
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Hahahaha... Bhai, jinx laga rahe ho? :P He is going to be another useless bowler in about 6 months - 1 year time :)
 
Yadav should be kept away from ODIs. Play him tests alone . This might actually be great both for him and for India. Same is the case with Ishant. Bumrah is decent but not sure he'll last long. Should play T20's and ODI's
 
I didn't even know bummrah was in the squad, why in the hell did dhoni pick sran and bhuvi over him, I can understand sran to an extent but bhuvi is a tried and test failure, what the hell was he thinking? At least after 3 odis he should've been given a chance before the likes of rishi and gurkeerat. Dhoni se chutkara kab milega
 
He will be carted in the coming matches to come. But need to be patient though. My feeling is that he's going to be useful in test matches.
 
Same Mumbai indians bowler who were. Playing against lahore loins in champions trophy .
He has really waried action soon he will be injured wit this kind of action he can't service long
 
This is what india needs right now. He can bowl deadly yorkers. Along with shami he can serve india better. Great find tbh. Perhaps the best of the tour.
 
Naim said:
Same Mumbai indians bowler who were. Playing against lahore loins in champions trophy .
He has really waried action soon he will be injured wit this kind of action he can't service long
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Your own Wasim Akram said this kid has bowled with this action his whole life. Its not going to injure him or anything. Suppose you know more than Wasim?
 
carrom_ball said:
I didn't even know bummrah was in the squad, why in the hell did dhoni pick sran and bhuvi over him, I can understand sran to an extent but bhuvi is a tried and test failure, what the hell was he thinking? At least after 3 odis he should've been given a chance before the likes of rishi and gurkeerat. Dhoni se chutkara kab milega
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He wasnt. He has come in the squad coz Bhuvi was injured.
 
Very good debut, but he was still unknown before this match, with a bit unique action. I don't think Aussies were expecting him play in this match. This was a lesser pressure game, but his real teat will come in active rubbers, when teams have good amount of footage of his game.

In any sports, particularly in cricket role model, public interest, culture & mentoring is extremely important. There is an unique similarities between Pakistan & Indian cricket in this regard. Since Counties stopped picking PAK players, in last 20 years there are several PAK young batsmen starting career with a bang, but almost all of them (actually apart from YK) faded away in couple of years without proper guidance, culture, not having a proper (or having a wrong) mentor. Starting from Salim Elahi to Sami Aslam, almost same story. Their predecessors were lucky that English cricket had the money & passion in 70s & 80s.

Similar issues with IND, though IND was never dependent on external resources to nurture their cricketers, but media sold Tendulkar better & bigger than Kapil & last 25 years I have seen many Indian pacer starting career with potential, but within couple of years time most of them (apart from Srinath & Zak) ended like Pathan, BK, Umesh, Munaf, Nehra, RP Singh, Sreeshant, BRB Singh & I can name few more - I think Shami is heading towards the same route.

And general public opinion isn't helping either - after losing by 10 wickets inside 16 overs, still mass Pakistanis believe there are Wasims & Waquars in streets of Lahore, Pindi & selectors are not picking them, while chasing run a ball 80 with 2 set batsmen in, after losing for 9/52, still majority Indian believes modern Brandmans & Hammonds are coming from Bombay, Delhi & Madras (& the bowlers are ..................). Something has to change if Babar Azam in to convert in to Zaheer Aabbas or Jasprit Bumrah in to Javagal Srinath.
 
MMHS said:
Very good debut, but he was still unknown before this match, with a bit unique action. I don't think Aussies were expecting him play in this match. This was a lesser pressure game, but his real teat will come in active rubbers, when teams have good amount of footage of his game.

In any sports, particularly in cricket role model, public interest, culture & mentoring is extremely important. There is an unique similarities between Pakistan & Indian cricket in this regard. Since Counties stopped picking PAK players, in last 20 years there are several PAK young batsmen starting career with a bang, but almost all of them (actually apart from YK) faded away in couple of years without proper guidance, culture, not having a proper (or having a wrong) mentor. Starting from Salim Elahi to Sami Aslam, almost same story. Their predecessors were lucky that English cricket had the money & passion in 70s & 80s.

Similar issues with IND, though IND was never dependent on external resources to nurture their cricketers, but media sold Tendulkar better & bigger than Kapil & last 25 years I have seen many Indian pacer starting career with potential, but within couple of years time most of them (apart from Srinath & Zak) ended like Pathan, BK, Umesh, Munaf, Nehra, RP Singh, Sreeshant, BRB Singh & I can name few more - I think Shami is heading towards the same route.

And general public opinion isn't helping either - after losing by 10 wickets inside 16 overs, still mass Pakistanis believe there are Wasims & Waquars in streets of Lahore, Pindi & selectors are not picking them, while chasing run a ball 80 with 2 set batsmen in, after losing for 9/52, still majority Indian believes modern Brandmans & Hammonds are coming from Bombay, Delhi & Madras (& the bowlers are ..................). Something has to change if Babar Azam in to convert in to Zaheer Aabbas or Jasprit Bumrah in to Javagal Srinath.
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Good observation! +1
 
Rightarmfast said:
Your own Wasim Akram said this kid has bowled with this action his whole life. Its not going to injure him or anything. Suppose you know more than Wasim?
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One thing to which we call biomechanics. You can see how waried his action is. There is difference between playing cricket as a child and in International cricket. He is young so he is fit till now but the way he dilivers ball he is putting so much waight on his back. I can bet he will be not able to ball at the age of 32.
 
must u start multiple threads about minor events every time india plays a game?
 
India has so much talent coming through. Their u19 team just scored 485. Too bad the glimmer of this talent is tarnished by a rogue organization that oversees the proceedings.

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#GreenRoars said:
Well, even B Sran was good in his first match, let's see how he perform in next series.
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Bumrah is a good death bowler, even in IPL he bowls good yorkers at death, I was eagerly waiting for his debut in the team, he has stopped the likes of devilliers in ipl, so he definitely has the potential to be a good limited overs bowler
 
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asfandyar said:
India has so much talent coming through. Their u19 team just scored 485. Too bad the glimmer of this talent is tarnished by a rogue organization that oversees the proceedings.

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What about the bowlers?
 
he will be India's Sohail Tanveer in few months once batsmen around world get used to his action
 
Naim said:
One thing to which we call biomechanics. You can see how waried his action is. There is difference between playing cricket as a child and in International cricket. He is young so he is fit till now but the way he dilivers ball he is putting so much waight on his back. I can bet he will be not able to ball at the age of 32.
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So by the age of 32, he would still be playing inernational cricket? Interesting :)
 
Rightarmfast said:
So by the age of 32, he would still be playing inernational cricket? Interesting :)
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If at the age of 33 wahab can play and bowl in high 140s then every bowler how has good action can play
With this action he will be finished in 3 years
 
Naim said:
If at the age of 33 wahab can play and bowl in high 140s then every bowler how has good action can play
With this action he will be finished in 3 years
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I bet the cricket coaches and experts know a bit more about biomechanics than you. Its easy to sit here and give biomechanic lessons on net. He knows what he is doing.
 
What's wrong with this thread?

Didn't hype him.

Didn't compare him to anyone else.

Didn't say he could go on to do great things. On the contrary I feel he may fade out after 2 years which is usual process for us.
 
Rightarmfast said:
I bet the cricket coaches and experts know a bit more about biomechanics than you. Its easy to sit here and give biomechanic lessons on net. He knows what he is doing.
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Ok we will see in future how things go.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
What's wrong with this thread?

Didn't hype him.

Didn't compare him to anyone else.

Didn't say he could go on to do great things. On the contrary I feel he may fade out after 2 years which is usual process for us.
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You're being generous. 2 matches is all takes for em to go down the same route these days.
 
He had weird bowling action so batsman take little bit of time to figure him out. Kinda like Tanvir.
 
Naim said:
Same Mumbai indians bowler who were. Playing against lahore loins in champions trophy .
He has really waried action soon he will be injured wit this kind of action he can't service long
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It is Lions not loins please :)))
 
Executioner said:
You know there is something really wrong with Indian bowling when even a 10-0-40-2 gets a thread!

Those were some good yorkers he bowled there, especially the yorker to Faulkner
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When a team score 330 then 10 overs for 40 runs are really good return.

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Better than all the trundlers in the Aussie squad.
 
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HitWicket said:
Calling an entire attack trundlers in comparison when the bowler in question is only the 5th quickest bowler in the match so far doesn't make much sense...
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Ok, what I meant was that he seems a better bowler than all of them.
 
Excellent bowling figures by Jasprit Bumrah in a match where 330 was scored and chased, bowled at a decent pace too 135k to 142K.
 
Looks just decent. People will get out to him when they don't know much about him, once they figure him out he will be find it hard.
 
Yorker after Yorker.


Mighty impressed with his death bowling.
 
Zak_Fan said:
Will be a top 10 ODI bowler for years to come.
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Bhai...you do realize MANY MANY of our pacers start awesome.

No predictions until Bumrah clears 2-3 years and still does well.

Even if he gets to McGrath level, still you can't guarantee anything.
 
Finally a bowler with pace + brains. we always wanted that [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION].
let's see how long the Indian Management takes to ruin him.
Though with kohli taking over the reins shortly I do have some hope
 
battler said:
Finally a bowler with pace + brains. we always wanted that [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION].
let's see how long the Indian Management takes to ruin him.
Though with kohli taking over the reins shortly I do have some hope
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Yeah...dude has brains.

Praise the Lord.

A bowler who has brains and can bowl 135+ is God's gift for us.

Let's see how long this dude lasts. Hopefully long enough.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Bhai...you do realize MANY MANY of our pacers start awesome.

No predictions until Bumrah clears 2-3 years and still does well.

Even if he gets to McGrath level, still you can't guarantee anything.
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My prediction is based on what I see and not what might happen. Ofcourse I cannot guarantee it, but he seems talented enough at the moment.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Bhai...you do realize MANY MANY of our pacers start awesome.

No predictions until Bumrah clears 2-3 years and still does well.

Even if he gets to McGrath level, still you can't guarantee anything.
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There have been a number of statistical measures suggesting for a very long while that Bumrah is special (before he got his chance in 2014 IPL). And no, these measures did not suggest Ishant, Umesh or Varun Aaron were special.

Plus, awkward action plus clear, obvious ability to consistently bowl fast yorkers is clearly visible for all to see.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
There have been a number of statistical measures suggesting for a very long while that Bumrah is special (before he got his chance in 2014 IPL). And no, these measures did not suggest Ishant, Umesh or Varun Aaron were special.

Plus, awkward action plus clear, obvious ability to consistently bowl fast yorkers is clearly visible for all to see.
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1. Batsmen will get used to him. I am interested to see how he performs then.

2. He seems to have brains and can bowl yorkers too which is a great asset for him.

3. If there are any statistical measures that prove Bumrah is special while Ishant, Umesh and Aaron are not (before they all debuted), then that's a valid point. I would love to know about that.

4. The biggest issue with our pacers is they lose pace and become ineffective. Or you have guys like Umesh who never learn. Let's see what this kid is made up of.
 
I must admit i was skeptical of him earlier but after watching those Yorkers i am sure he can survive and perform even after batsman figures him out.
There ain't a cure invented for a good ol' yorker mate . :)
 
CricketAnalyst said:
No bowler exists who has never gotten a phainta from someone or the other and Umar is capable of smashing anyone when he is in the mood.
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When I see his name I remember umar's inning.He is a good bowler seen him in IPL he was decent
 
Can/Will he change his landing stride? Seems to be one point which he can alter to make himself more unpredictable.

The landing is really awkward and maybe he has an area where he can work to garner further advantage.
 
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