Zimbabwe defeat Pakistan in Super Over, Pakistan win ODI series 2-1

[Mamoon]

Misbah please pick more youngsters. They need to outdo Musa and concede 150 in 10 overs to Zimbabwean batsmen.

 

[B_Positive]

Karma gave victory to the one who deserved. A midfield got pak back in match and midfield has put zimbos through.

 

[PakPremi]

Kohli can play effortless sixes with pure timing and once set he becomes very active in finding boundaries. Unfortunately Baber is not in his class. Baber plays at one pace only.

Kohli always has good support from the other end so can play more risky shots. Pakistan always goes into a match with 3 to 4 proper tailenders and fake all rounders like Iftikhar or Fahim.

 

[watson367]

Still can't believe they sent chacha Ifti in the super over. Heck even Imam would have been a better choice

Shameless Misbah will still pick his senior citizen buddy for the next match.

 

[Syed1]

Shameless Misbah will still pick his senior citizen buddy for the next match.

Even some random joe off the street wouldn't have sent chacha


Friendship over team performance for this beghairat loser Misbah

 

[MMHS]

U need to send power hitters.....and Iftikhar is an over hyped one.....Should have sent Haider Fakhar Wahab/Musa

No, you need proper batsmen, who won’t miss any ball, at least one single; who won’t get out to outrageous shots to be out twice inside six balls, and who can play proper cricket shots - four singles, one boundary & a two means 10-12 to defend, Shaheen could have done that.

This is where India is a far superior batting team because they understand batting philosophy- they would have sent Babar & Haider as opener and probably Wahab at three because he is in great touch today.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Congrats to zimbabwe on a deserved win.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Either way he will play same 30 overs of the innings

He is a liability in last 10 overs , chasing or setting the target. If he opens there is more a chance of him getting out before 40th over and save himself of embarrassment of looking like a tailender tryimg to slog.

 

[watson367]

Too bad Misbah didnt show us his acting skills in this match. Or maybe our stupid cameramen couldn't catch it.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Iftikhar gives such bad vibes. He needs to be kept away from the team regardless of what his stats are.
Need a good strategist and a tough mentor rather than timid misbah.

 

[PakPremi]

Misbah please pick more youngsters. They need to outdo Musa and concede 150 in 10 overs to Zimbabwean batsmen.

Nothing wrong with trying out youngsters, it's the undeserving seniors we need to worry about. You did not even rate Hasnain.

 

[Syed1]

He is a liability in last 10 overs , chasing or setting the target. If he opens there is more a chance of him getting out before 40th over and save himself of embarrassment of looking like a tailender tryimg to slog.

Bhai cricket dekhi hai aj tak?


If he plays first 40 overs or last 40 overs, he is still playing the same set of 30 overs in the middle in both scenarios

 

[Belawal2014]

i dont understand why posters here try to shield babar from criticism.

Its his decision, he is the captain on the field. Not the coach.

I don't understand why certain posters here shield Misbah from any criticism whatsoever?

 

[watson367]

England lost to Ireland just 3 months ago. India also tied a game with Afghanistan not too long ago as well. One off results like these do happen.

what about losing 3-0 to SL C team?

 

[Cric_lover4487]

Sorry to say but why is Iftikhar is playing in ODI team? He is a T20 slogger at best. Babar also needs to learn to switch gears once he scores 100. He should have taken the charge and finish the game but he let Wahab play risky shots while he accumulated soft runs. Selfish batsman.

 

[Mamoon]

England lost to Ireland just 3 months ago. India also tied a game with Afghanistan not too long ago as well. One off results like these do happen.

Do you think you would like my response? I don’t think you will.

 

[Syed1]

Too bad Misbah didnt show us his acting skills in this match. Or maybe our stupid cameramen couldn't catch it.

Pretty sure this shameless guy won't even come to the press conference would probably send Babar and a debutant.

 

[Swing]

Why does this forum ask you to log in only when Pakistan is losing?

 

[Usman Chadda]

England lost to Ireland just 3 months ago. India also tied a game with Afghanistan not too long ago as well. One off results like these do happen.

We used to blow away such opposition before Misbah took over. Don't forget this is the same guy who lost a test to Zimbabwe. Matlab kuch bhi

 

[watson367]

Do you think you would like my response? I don’t think you will.

Pak fans will never accept the reality.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Why does this forum ask you to log in only when Pakistan is losing?

Forum asks to login when its under heavy load. When Pakistan is losing you get normal ppers+trolls whereas when Pakistan wins only your average PPer is here.

Just see comment numbers for 1st and 2nd ODI and the 3rd

Peace.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

i wonder what our coach and captain would say to the press conferences if there are going to be any.

Does anyone know how much points will this loss cost us for world championship?

 

[ufcfan]

Kohli always has good support from the other end so can play more risky shots. Pakistan always goes into a match with 3 to 4 proper tailenders and fake all rounders like Iftikhar or Fahim.

Accept, Kohli has those extra gears which Babar lacks
Go through YT videos it is filled with those
Kohli in his initial years took apart Malinga in Hobart,then bullied Gul, Wahab,Ajmal in BD chasing 330+
Kohli has that extra gear which seperates him from Babar and that is a massive difference

 

[aloo paratha]

Do you think you would like my response? I don’t think you will.

I probably won't like it because it would be dumb. You're going to say we belong to this level and are minnows. I don't claim we're nearly as good as England or India, just telling you not to overreact.

 

[watson367]

Forum asks to login when its under heavy load. When Pakistan is losing you get normal ppers+trolls whereas when Pakistan wins only your average PPer is here.

Just see comment numbers for 1st and 2nd ODI and the 3rd

Peace.

Harnay ka maza hee aur hai.

 

[aloo paratha]

what about losing 3-0 to SL C team?

What about it? I agree we played poorly, and selections were way off.

 

[RyanRyan10]

I probably won't like it because it would be dumb. You're going to say we belong to this level and are minnows. I don't claim we're nearly as good as England or India, just telling you not to overreact.

What were the playing XIs of England and India in those matches you have mentioned?

 

[zain41]

England lost to Ireland just 3 months ago. India also tied a game with Afghanistan not too long ago as well. One off results like these do happen.

No offence bro but “chal bey”
Losing to Srilanka c team
Choking that first test away against England
Losing to zimbabwae at home

If you defend this you are part of the problem
Ask yourself this
Do you really want this to continue for another three years? Not just misbah but the whole board needs to go when they made decision to make misbah coach/selector

Wasim khan getting away with it just cuz he can speak English smh

 

[watson367]

What about it? I agree we played poorly, and selections were way off.

No I was just saying this is not a one off loss. Nevertheless, match was still entertaining.

 

[Dios]

Since when do JAMODIs have eliminators?

 

[Mamoon]

I probably won't like it because it would be dumb. You're going to say we belong to this level and are minnows. I don't claim we're nearly as good as England or India, just telling you not to overreact.

Here is my dumb response.

If we win the World Cup and are ranked #1, I wouldn’t overreact if we lose a one-off match to a minnow.

 

[zain41]

i wonder what our coach and captain would say to the press conferences if there are going to be any.

Does anyone know how much points will this loss cost us for world championship?

He’s either gona say stuff about the match that we already know I.e match summary or make excuses and portray himself as the victim

 

[watson367]

No offence bro but “chal bey”
Losing to Srilanka c team
Choking that first test away against England
Losing to zimbabwae at home

If you defend this you are part of the problem
Ask yourself this
Do you really want this to continue for another three years? Not just misbah but the whole board needs to go when they made decision to make misbah coach/selector

Wasim khan getting away with it just cuz he can speak English smh

How is he part of the problem? He is just commenting on a forum. lmao

 

[Zues]

Should have been Fakhar and Haider and then maybe Khushdil

 

[ChTab]

Before Misbah, Babar need to be sacked as captain. Horrific decision maker, first allowing Shaheen to bat before Musa and then sending Ifthikhar in super over. Shameful team deserve this humiliation.

I think Misbah is making all those calls.

 

[aloo paratha]

No offence bro but “chal bey”
Losing to Srilanka c team
Choking that first test away against England
Losing to zimbabwae at home

If you defend this you are part of the problem
Ask yourself this
Do you really want this to continue for another three years? Not just misbah but the whole board needs to go when they made decision to make misbah coach/selector

Wasim khan getting away with it just cuz he can speak English smh

I'm not defending anybody, just pointing out that losing one match (or winning one match) is not a true indicator of a teams position. Truth is that those who take one win against a top team and act like we are among the top teams are unreasonable, but so are the people who take one loss against a lower ranked team and act like we're minnows.

I don't want Misbah to remain, I didn't even want him appointed. My stance on Misbah has always been that he's nowhere near my ideal candidate, but he's not really worse than Mickey Arthur. I wanted Dean Jones to be our coach.

 

[zain41]

How is he part of the problem? He is just commenting on a forum. lmao

Sympathizers and excuse makers are the problem.. they let them get away with it instead of holding them accountable

 

[watson367]

Here is my dumb response.

If we win the World Cup and are ranked #1, I wouldn’t overreact if we lose a one-off match to a minnow.

tbh that is a very dumb response. In the past few years, we have lost to minnows and non minnows many times but, you overreact after every match.

 

[Maliq_Mudasir]

Accept, Kohli has those extra gears which Babar lacks
Go through YT videos it is filled with those
Kohli in his initial years took apart Malinga in Hobart,then bullied Gul, Wahab,Ajmal in BD chasing 330+
Kohli has that extra gear which seperates him from Babar and that is a massive difference

Babar not only lacks hitting mode, also lacks game planning. He doesn't know how to construct chase that too against a minnow team. If you can't get your team over the line when 24 is needed of last three, you don't deserve to be compared with the likes of kohli, Williamson, Root and Smith.

 

[Abdullah Rabbani]

Sack this bagerat misbah horrible player and human being

 

[zain41]

I'm not defending anybody, just pointing out that losing one match (or winning one match) is not a true indicator of a teams position. Truth is that those who take one win against a top team and act like we are among the top teams are unreasonable, but so are the people who take one loss against a lower ranked team and act like we're minnows.

I don't want Misbah to remain, I didn't even want him appointed. My stance on Misbah has always been that he's nowhere near my ideal candidate, but he's not really worse than Mickey Arthur. I wanted Dean Jones to be our coach.

They aren’t one offs anymore though.. it happens on a consistent basis.. we’ve been barely scraping by the likes of Afghanistan recently..

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Mr Tanvir Ahmed is gonna have a field day with this lol.

I mean honestly the brainless and clueless batting from Khushdil in the super over was just baffling. He can't hit anything unless it's legside.

Bravo to Zimbabwae they deserved this and no chance we were defending 2 runs lol, not even Wasim would have pulled that off.

Saying that Rizwan wasted a lot of balls and perhaps could've come in later and the more aggressive batsman given a push up the order i.e. Khushdil. The chase in itself was wrong, one thing for sure Ifti should be booted out, zero sense as a batsman comes out first ball thinking he's Afridi.

 

[PakPremi]

Accept, Kohli has those extra gears which Babar lacks
Go through YT videos it is filled with those
Kohli in his initial years took apart Malinga in Hobart,then bullied Gul, Wahab,Ajmal in BD chasing 330+
Kohli has that extra gear which seperates him from Babar and that is a massive difference

So Vivian Richard had different gears to other batsmen. In the world but that did not make Miandads for example not a supreme batsmen as well. I repeat Babar plays for a team without any decent batsmen, whereas Kohli plays with many good batsmen in the team so he can chance more, and earlier on his career he had Dhoni, yuvraj, raina type of batsmen to follow.
Kohli obviously has better big hitting ability, no doubt about that.

 

[shamaan]

These tight contests are good for a side with many young inexperienced cricketers. Zimbabwe is actually better than originally imagined. We made the same mistake with Bangladesh in 2015. You play youngsters and this is the outcome you risk.

Even India has lost to Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Tied with Afghanistan so lets not blow things out of proportion

Youngesters like ifti fakhar imaam babar ?

 

[Mamoon]

tbh that is a very dumb response. In the past few years, we have lost to minnows and non minnows many times but, you overreact after every match.

Again, we were at the same level as India, I wouldn’t be overreacting.

 

[shamaan]

Before Misbah, Babar need to be sacked as captain. Horrific decision maker, first allowing Shaheen to bat before Musa and then sending Ifthikhar in super over. Shameful team deserve this humiliation.

But was this decision or misbah

 

[Zues]

Babar played superbly, amazing cricketer. Maybe he should open with Fakhar. My playing 11 and batting order for one dayers

Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Haider Ali
Rizwan
Haris Sohail
Khusdil Shah
Aamir Yaamin
Shadab Khan
Wahab Riaz
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Haris Rauf

Current combination is lacking in aggressiveness.

 

[watson367]

Again, we were at the same level as India, I wouldn’t be overreacting.

Jab ho nahi sakta to soch kai kya mila ga? We will never be at the level of India, Aus, or Eng. So, you can overreact for the rest of your life as far as I am concerned.

 

[zain41]

We need to schedule a feel good series against Hong Kong asap.. wonder here if people will accuse of overreacting if we lose a game against them too

 

[shamaan]

Ppl do go overboard..whats the point of power hitters if you were not goin to send fakhar khushdil etc ..maybe only babz cud have but he could hardly hit the ball himself

Haider babar should have batted in the super over

 

[JibranAnsari]

Bhai cricket dekhi hai aj tak?


If he plays first 40 overs or last 40 overs, he is still playing the same set of 30 overs in the middle in both scenarios

And he is good in first 40 overs.

Not in the last 10.

Point is if he comes in the after 20th over , it wont be long before he is needed to acclerate which will actually demand hi m to get out of his comfort zone. If he opens he can be more natural every time he comes on to bat and not find in position where he has to slog.

 

[shamaan]

Bad luck.

How is this bad luck they should have lost the game in the first place and shouldn't have got to the super over

 

[watson367]

We need to schedule a feel good series against Hong Kong asap.. wonder here if people will accuse of overreacting if we lose a game against them too����

One specific wrist slitter overreacts every single match. Its very annoying to be honest.

 

[WahiDost]

Where is Rana ? Must be terming this as a quality match up between two tough teams (LOL) and defending this pathetic display of Cricket from Pakistan.

Also, this Khushdil Shah is overrated ! Time to move on from him.

 

[Rajdeep]

Zimbabwe should have won the 1st ODI as well. It is only their minnow mentality and lack of experience that cost them the game. Zimbabwe should have won this series 2-1...they only got outplayed in 2nd ODI.

 

[Savak]

People should be proud of their Pakistaniyat, capable of losing to teams like Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and then winning against Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, India. This is what makes our team very exciting.

 

[sindhiboy]

Babar played superbly, amazing cricketer. Maybe he should open with Fakhar. My playing 11 and batting order for one dayers

Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Haider Ali
Rizwan
Haris Sohail
Khusdil Shah
Aamir Yaamin
Shadab Khan
Wahab Riaz
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Haris Rauf

Current combination is lacking in aggressiveness.

Haris has to improve his strike rate though

 

[watson367]

Haris and babar compliment each other very well. Too bad Haris is extremely lazy and injury prone.

 

[Zues]

I agree he needs to improve his strike rate and fitness. But he seem to at least have the ability to score quickly. Imam Ul Haq just seems to lack in that department.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Babar not only lacks hitting mode, also lacks game planning. He doesn't know how to construct chase that too against a minnow team. If you can't get your team over the line when 24 is needed of last three, you don't deserve to be compared with the likes of kohli, Williamson, Root and Smith.

He shouldn't be ranked with those players anyway, he's a rung below them, although Root isn't really winning matches these days either.

 

[shamaan]

Where is Rana ? Must be terming this as a quality match up between two tough teams (LOL) and defending this pathetic display of Cricket from Pakistan.

Also, this Khushdil Shah is overrated ! Time to move on from him.

After 1 game ?

 

[sindhiboy]

Babar played superbly, amazing cricketer. Maybe he should open with Fakhar. My playing 11 and batting order for one dayers

Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Haider Ali
Rizwan
Haris Sohail
Khusdil Shah
Aamir Yaamin
Shadab Khan
Wahab Riaz
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Haris Rauf

Current combination is lacking in aggressiveness.

Haris has to improve his strike rate though

 

[Zues]

He shouldn't be ranked with those players anyway, he's a rung below them, although Root isn't really winning matches these days either.

Rahul Dravid and Kallis lacked in hitting abilities too. That does not mean they where not great. Babar is a modern day batting great. It is the rest of the team that are a problem not Babar. The guy has 55 average and a strike rate approaching 90.

 

[Rayyman]

Match was lost in first few overs of the chase.

Good series win tho. Babar looked good as captain.

 

[Muddaser]

Haris has to improve his strike rate though

We need runs first.

Do you want 20 off 15 over 50 off 60?

Its 50 overs mate.

Strike rates like we have Jos Buttler and Jason Roy in reserves.

 

[watson367]

Hafeez is still a bigger matchwinner than this upcoming "talent".

 

[zain41]

One specific wrist slitter overreacts every single match. Its very annoying to be honest.

But we must realize that once the amount of events that leads to this wrist slitting behaviour increases there must be a problem..

I never really agreed with him before but now I realize he might have been ahead of time

Once you have misbah there is no silver lining no hope..

 

[The lone Ranger]

People should be proud of their Pakistaniyat, capable of losing to teams like Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and then winning against Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, India. This is what makes our team very exciting.

You can say the same about Bangladesh aswell.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Rahul Dravid and Kallis lacked in hitting abilities too. That does not mean they where not great. Babar is a modern day batting great. It is the rest of the team that are a problem not Babar. The guy has 55 average and a strike rate approaching 90.

I'm not arguing, been a big Babar fan since day one, but he really should be finishing games like this one.

 

[shamaan]

Very disappointing result.musa should have come in ahead of shaheen that was a blunder no game awareness also haider should have come into bat with babar in the super over.iftikhar has been exposed big time today with both bat and ball.rizwan also had a very poor series but needs to be back for another 1 or 2 series.i am not sure who's picked the batters for the super over and who told shaheen to go ahead of musa.misbah needs to go.babar played a very good knock but he needed to finish it off.as for khushdil his leg side hack got exposed but he needs to be given a series or 2 similar to rizwan

 

[MenInG]

 

[sweep_shot]

Wow! I left the game when Pakistan needed 37 runs from 30 balls. I thought game was in the bag.

Congratulations, Zimbabwe.

 

[Titan24]

What a good game of cricket! Congrats to Zimbabwe for such a performance despite a lot of obstacles they face, well deserved win.

 

[aloo paratha]

Wow! I left the game when Pakistan needed 37 runs from 30 balls. I thought game was in the bag.

Congratulations, Zimbabwe.

Same. Babar's lacking power game really showed today.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

Same. Babar's lacking power game really showed today.

Thats the difference between Kohli and Babar. Kohli wouldn't put pressure on Wahab to up the run rate while play watchfully. Babar should have taken the charge and finish the game. He never showed intent to close the game.

 

[saabir]

Although it was a dead rubber but head need to roll becoz of some serous tactical failures.
1. Not selecting any regular spinner in the side
2. Sending Shaheen ahead of Musa . It means Misbah and Babar don't know the strength of their players
3. Selecting debutant Khushdil and Old ageing player Iftikhar For superover ahead of well settled Babar and Haider.
These are unforgivable blunders

 

[aloo paratha]

Thats the difference between Kohli and Babar. Kohli wouldn't put pressure on Wahab to up the run rate while play watchfully. Babar should have taken the charge and finish the game. He never showed intent to close the game.

Indeed. Kohli would've finished the game with an over or 2 to spare.

 

[Shoaibbtt]

Very disappointing result.musa should have come in ahead of shaheen that was a blunder no game awareness also haider should have come into bat with babar in the super over.iftikhar has been exposed big time today with both bat and ball.rizwan also had a very poor series but needs to be back for another 1 or 2 series.i am not sure who's picked the batters for the super over and who told shaheen to go ahead of musa.misbah needs to go.babar played a very good knock but he needed to finish it off.as for khushdil his leg side hack got exposed but he needs to be given a series or 2 similar to rizwan

I was surprised they sent in Shaheen as Musa showed he could bat when he shocked Lahore Qalanders.

Despite trying new faces i have the following comments/questions:

- First of why was Babar not playing in the super over with him being settled?
- Why was Iftikhar sent ahead of Haider Ali, the others i could understand i.e. Khushdil and Fakhar?
- Why did Khushdil not bowl a single over during the Zimbabwae innings?
- What was Rizwan trying to achieve with being 10 off of 26 balls?
- What was with the hero tactics from Iftikhar first ball of the super over and Khushdil looking to hit a ball that clearly isn't meant to be hit to the legside???

People called it and i agree that Khushdil is just a leg side hack and the 100 he scored in the National t20 cup was due to bad fielding and not skill. However, despite this negative thinking i think he needs to work with the batting coaches and discover that he does have more to offer other than playing everything towards the leg side. This was a great platform for him to prove himself and he's well sort of failed and it's saddening because he is fun to watch when he gets going. Overall, give him another 2 series and test him in the t20s as he still needs to prove himself. Skill gets built with experience not by one or 2 games.

Rizwan simple as he's not t20 or odi material and should be test only. Simple replace with Zeeshan Ashraf.

Musa was probably the hero and villian of this game, he lost us the game with his 10-0-80 but ultimately gave us a lifeline courtesy of that last ball 4.

Iftikhar he's had his chances and needs replacing with someone else if he doesn't prove himself in the next series. Leave it at that.

Fakhar is nothing more than a 15 minutes of fame player, he's had his time in the sun with the glory days of CT17 but now must go and replaced with Abdullah Shafique. Fakhar and Abid are far too slow.

 

[Rohan]

Can we please consider this as a blessing in disguise? One last time, please?

 

[Kroll]

It was nearly a get out of jail card with match going to super over. It was only because of Chisoro's big fat butt that he couldn't get down quick enough to stop the ball that match didn't end in regulation time.

Misbah must have felt bad about that hence sending out Ifti, Khushdil and Fakhar to help Zimb eventually get the win.