“The butcher of Gujarat lives, and he is the Prime Minister of India” Bilawal Bhutto Zardari

NEW YORK/NEW DELHI: As the ruling BJP organised demonstrations in various parts of India to protest Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari’s remarks about the Indian prime minister, the Pakistani foreign minister urged the Narendra Modi-led party on Saturday to protest against unrelenting discrimination and hatred that Indian Muslims face in their own country, instead of protesting against him.

At a news conference inside the UN earlier this week, Mr Bhutto-Zardari had described Mr Modi as “the butcher of Gujarat,” adding that instead of being punished for the 2002 massacre of over 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat, he was made the prime minister.

He was responding to his Indian counterpart S. Jaishankar’s remarks who, for two days in a row, had called Pakistan “the host of Osama bin Laden” and the “perpetrator of terrorism.”

“My comments were based in history, and it is difficult to distort history,” said Mr Bhutto-Zardari when asked about the BJP’s protests against him. “You cannot rewrite history to suit your likes and dislikes.”

FO terms India’s remarks ‘reflection of Delhi’s growing frustration’; BJP holds protests

Talking to the Pakistani media in New York, he said: “The history is a witness to the role the current Indian prime minister played in Gujarat. No matter how hard the BJP or RSS protests, they cannot distort history.”

The foreign minister said he did not coin the term “Butcher of Gujarat, Indian citizens gave this title to him (Modi). So, no matter how much you protest, you cannot change facts.”

“They must also condemn the Muslim genocide in Gujarat, and condemn the way Muslims in India, who are the largest minority in the world, are treated. I wish... they had also protested for their own Muslim citizens — who are now the victims of discrimination, hatred — instead of targeting me.”

He said instead of trying to curb this hatred, “their own government instigates people against Indian Muslims”.

The FM said if the purpose of these protests was to scare Pakistan, it would not work. “We are not afraid of RSS. We are not afraid of Mr Modi. We are not afraid of the BJP. If they want to protest, they should.”

Meanwhile, the Foreign Office rejected the statement by the Indian Ministry of External Affairs (MEA), reported PPI.

Responding to media queries about Friday’s statement by the Indian MEA, FO Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch in a statement said that the MEA’s statement is also a reflection of India’s growing frustration over its failure in maligning and isolating Pakistan.

She said after being unable to prevent Pakistan’s exit from FATF grey list and international recognition of Pakistan’s counterterrorism efforts, India is desperately using international platforms to advance its agenda to defame and target Pakistan.

In Uttar Pradesh, the agitation against Mr Bhutto-Zardari’s remarks started on Friday as BJP state president Bhupendra Singh Chaudhary issued a statement, calling his remarks “indecent” and “shameful”.

BJP workers staged a protest in Mathura on Friday and burnt an effigy of the foreign minister.

In Lucknow, BJP workers gathered at the Atal Chowk and started a march, shouting slogans against the FM.

In Delhi, BJP workers protested outside the Pakistan Embassy. Their leaders in Pune led by Maharashtra party chief Chandrashekhar Bawankule held a protest at Tilak Chowk and raised anti-Pakistan slogans.

Mr Bawankule told PTI: “We will not tolerate any statement against our prime minister. PM Narendra Modi is the one who is striving hard to save our Hindu religion, and Pakistan is unable to see it. That is why they are making such statements.”

Similar protests were also held in Mumbai, Karnataka, Telangana, Jammu and Bhubhaneswar.

Our correspondent in New Delhi also contributed to this report

Published in Dawn, December 18th, 2022
 
Can’t believe people in my country are taking the comments of someone seriously when even Pakistanis themselves don’t take that man seriously. Just ignore them, and move on.
 
Indian people can protest want anywhere they want it makes no difference. If BB's comment didn't hurt them so many Indian's wouldn't be running as if a fire had been lit under them:usman These are the same people who celebrate "freedom of speech" but only when it suits them. It is even better that Bilawal has repeated his comment, good on ya lad!.

"Mr Bawankule told PTI: “We will not tolerate any statement against our prime minister. PM Narendra Modi is the one who is striving hard to save our Hindu religion, and Pakistan is unable to see it. That is why they are making such statements.” You are tolerating it because there is not much else you can do. Anti Pak slogans and burning the flag makes no difference at all. In Pak we do the same to India.

As China is hammering them at the Line of actual control the RSS are trying to deflect the attention to Pak. That is the real issue.
 
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New Delhi: A day after threatening India with a nuclear war, Pakistan Minister Shazia Marri today defended her country's Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto's offensive comments against Prime Minister Narendra Modi.
"Pakistan's FM responded to inciting comments by Indian Minister. Pakistan has sacrificed far more than India in the fight against terrorism," she tweeted.

She also said that "Pakistan is a responsible nuclear state", just a day after she issued an "atom bomb" warning to India.

"India should not forget that Pakistan has an atom bomb," the Pakistan Peoples Party leader said. "Our nuclear status is not meant to remain silent. We will not back down if the need arises," news agency ANI reported quoting Bol News.

Bilawal Bhutto, in a highly objectionable comment, had said: "Osama bin Laden is dead, but the butcher of Gujarat lives." The comment was termed as "a new low, even for Pakistan" by the Indian government.

Condemning Mr Bhutto's remarks at the UN, New Delhi said Pakistan lacks the credentials to cast aspersions on India and added that "Make in Pakistan terrorism" has to stop.

India said Pakistan is a country that glorifies Osama bin Laden as a martyr, and shelters terrorists like Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar, Sajid Mir and Dawood Ibrahim.

PM Modi has been cleared of any wrongdoing by investigations into the 2002 Gujarat riots which resulted in killings of over 1,000 people.

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And India celebrates Hindu terrorists like Adityanath, Modi, Uma Bharati, Mohan Bhagwat and Pragya Thakur who regularly spew venom against Pak. There RSS thugs are now singing anti Pak and anti Islam pop songs on youtube. India is frustrated at not getting Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar, Sajid Mir and Dawood Ibrahim and every man and his dog who according to them are hiding in Pak. We are not Sri Lanka who will be terrified by cheap RSS threats.
 
Can’t believe people in my country are taking the comments of someone seriously when even Pakistanis themselves don’t take that man seriously. Just ignore them, and move on.
They are not taking them seriously, they just want to encash these comments politically, they have always done that. Whatever gets feku votes, he'll do that without having any shame or guilt or whatever.
 
The unemployed sanghis who are protesting in India, should instead go to Pakistan and protest in front of Bilawal's home, that is if they have balls.

Even a layman, who knows nothing about Indian politics knows why are these so-called protests happening.
 
What a reply by Bilalwal!

And to say this in UN and remind them about a person who was banned by the USA.

You mean the person who has been hosted by 3 different US presidents and has addressed the US congress to thunderous applause?
 
Can’t believe people in my country are taking the comments of someone seriously when even Pakistanis themselves don’t take that man seriously. Just ignore them, and move on.

Protests would mean something if India shuts down the High commission in Islamabad and asks Pakistanis to leave New Delhi.

Else this is just useless.
 
Hopefully, India will continue to tackle Pakistan and expose the wrongdoings of Pakistan at the international stage. India needs to highlight the awful treatment of minorities and women in Pakistan.

Indians should not take anything Pakistan or Pakistani officials say. You guys should keep on marching forward and making leaps in science, technology and knowledge.
 
Hopefully, India will continue to tackle Pakistan and expose the wrongdoings of Pakistan at the international stage. India needs to highlight the awful treatment of minorities and women in Pakistan.

Indians should not take anything Pakistan or Pakistani officials say. You guys should keep on marching forward and making leaps in science, technology and knowledge.

And who will highlight India's treatment of Muslims? You?
 
"Our Expectation Levels With Pakistanis Never Very High": S Jaishankar

India's level of expectation from Pakistanis is "never very high", External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar said today, in his first comments over the personal attack made by his Pakistani counterpart Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari against Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

On Friday, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) described Bhutto-Zardari's remarks as "uncivilised" and said they were a "new low" even for Pakistan.

"I think my ministry has said very clearly what we think about what he (Pakistan foreign minister) said. We said what we had to say," Mr Jaishankar said during India Today's India-Japan conclave.

When pressed further on whether he was upset over the remarks against the prime minister, Jaishankar said: "Our expectation levels with the Pakistanis are never very high."

In a strong condemnation of Bhutto-Zardari's remarks, MEA spokesperson Arindam Bagchi on Friday said the Pakistan foreign minister's "frustration" would be better directed towards the masterminds of terrorist enterprises in his own country" that has made terrorism a part of their "state policy".

"Pakistan is a country that glorifies Osama bin Laden as a martyr, and shelters terrorists like Lakhvi, Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar, Sajid Mir and Dawood Ibrahim. No other country can boast of having 126 UN-designated terrorists and 27 UN-designated terrorist entities," Bagchi said.

The Pakistan foreign minister resorted to a personal attack on PM Modi and slammed the RSS after External Affairs Minister Jaishankar told the UN Security Council that the "contemporary epicentre of terrorism" remains very much active and called for collective action to tackle them.

Though Jaishankar did not name any countries, it was apparent that he was making a veiled reference to Pakistan.

Later, he told reporters in New York that the world sees Pakistan as the epicentre of terrorism and recalled US leader Hillary Clinton's blunt message to Islamabad in 2011 that snakes in one's backyard will eventually bite those who keep them.

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"Our Expectation Levels With Pakistanis Never Very High": S Jaishankar

India's level of expectation from Pakistanis is "never very high", External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar said today, in his first comments over the personal attack made by his Pakistani counterpart Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari against Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

On Friday, the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) described Bhutto-Zardari's remarks as "uncivilised" and said they were a "new low" even for Pakistan.

"I think my ministry has said very clearly what we think about what he (Pakistan foreign minister) said. We said what we had to say," Mr Jaishankar said during India Today's India-Japan conclave.

When pressed further on whether he was upset over the remarks against the prime minister, Jaishankar said: "Our expectation levels with the Pakistanis are never very high."

In a strong condemnation of Bhutto-Zardari's remarks, MEA spokesperson Arindam Bagchi on Friday said the Pakistan foreign minister's "frustration" would be better directed towards the masterminds of terrorist enterprises in his own country" that has made terrorism a part of their "state policy".

"Pakistan is a country that glorifies Osama bin Laden as a martyr, and shelters terrorists like Lakhvi, Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar, Sajid Mir and Dawood Ibrahim. No other country can boast of having 126 UN-designated terrorists and 27 UN-designated terrorist entities," Bagchi said.

The Pakistan foreign minister resorted to a personal attack on PM Modi and slammed the RSS after External Affairs Minister Jaishankar told the UN Security Council that the "contemporary epicentre of terrorism" remains very much active and called for collective action to tackle them.

Though Jaishankar did not name any countries, it was apparent that he was making a veiled reference to Pakistan.

Later, he told reporters in New York that the world sees Pakistan as the epicentre of terrorism and recalled US leader Hillary Clinton's blunt message to Islamabad in 2011 that snakes in one's backyard will eventually bite those who keep them.

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Every time some Indian says "the world sees Pakistan as" ____ (insert something bad), they are trying to pretend Indian narratives and opinions = global narratives and opinions, and they are almost always wrong.
 
Every time some Indian says "the world sees Pakistan as" ____ (insert something bad), they are trying to pretend Indian narratives and opinions = global narratives and opinions, and they are almost always wrong.

I don't think you can label this as an Indian narrative though. Have you not read what the US president Biden said last month on a very public forum -

https://www.dawn.com/news/1715159
 
Bilawal should mind his own business, 25 years now and he couldn't catch the killers of his mother. Shame on him.
 
The fear of IK is making him say these things..he needs to divert people's attention from his govt's failures
 
You mean the person who has been hosted by 3 different US presidents and has addressed the US congress to thunderous applause?

OBL and Taliban were also hosted by US presidents... Doesn't mean anything the US keeps you happy when it needs you. Even if you are a fascist terrorist. Which modi ✅ off as.
Lucky for India US needs it as a buffer for China otherwise India has 0 value in global geopolitics and Modi the Butcher of Gujraat would've still been on America's ban list.
 
Every time some Indian says "the world sees Pakistan as" ____ (insert something bad), they are trying to pretend Indian narratives and opinions = global narratives and opinions, and they are almost always wrong.

The believe the world watches their pathetic news channels as blindly as their domestic audience.
 
Every time some Indian says "the world sees Pakistan as" ____ (insert something bad), they are trying to pretend Indian narratives and opinions = global narratives and opinions, and they are almost always wrong.

Good point. Indian's are so full of themselves thinking their view is the world view. No country as ever said "Pakistan is a terror state" out rightly. I don't remember any country saying anything that India claims about Pakistan. A "dangerous nation" does not imply it being a terror country. They are too completely different things. Any country that has nukes can be called a danger to world peace.
 
Thing is Pakistan, since Imran, has made the attacks against India kinda personal against the PM. It almost gives a sense that Pakistan's only issue with India is Modi and nothing else. It's fine if this is the strategy they want to adopt, but knowing Modi's track record, the more you make things personal with him, more he retaliates in kind. As far as the world is concerned, not many care about the tongue war between India and Pakistan either ways, esp. since under Modi one thing that has got established is the threat of Pakistan ever initiating a war against India is out of question. Until 2014, there always used to be this impression after every terrorist attack in India that if India escalates by retaliating, it will lead to nuclear war and so US and UK will approach India to calm down. It was a cycle that played on for since Kargil war. I think that's something that changed entirely under Modi. No one is worried that Pakistan can either initiate a war or go nuclear and terrorist attacks outside Kashmir have virtually become zero.
 
Every time some Indian says "the world sees Pakistan as" ____ (insert something bad), they are trying to pretend Indian narratives and opinions = global narratives and opinions, and they are almost always wrong.

So 126 UN designated terrorists in Pakistan is Indian opinion?
 
OBL and Taliban were also hosted by US presidents... Doesn't mean anything the US keeps you happy when it needs you. Even if you are a fascist terrorist. Which modi ✅ off as.
Lucky for India US needs it as a buffer for China otherwise India has 0 value in global geopolitics and Modi the Butcher of Gujraat would've still been on America's ban list.

So OBL and Taliban were hosted in the White House by different Presidents and asked to address the US congress? May be they were also awarded the Legion of Merit.

Pakistan and Pakistanis will never decide India's value in geopolitics. Just being the 5th largest economy gives a lot of geopolitical value. Ofcourse Pakistanis will not understand the value of economy.

While Modi is being red carpeted by world leaders including muslim ones, Pakistan can keep repeating Gujarat Gujarat, it isn't going to affect Modi one bit.
 
OBL and Taliban were also hosted by US presidents... Doesn't mean anything the US keeps you happy when it needs you. Even if you are a fascist terrorist. Which modi ✅ off as.
Lucky for India US needs it as a buffer for China otherwise India has 0 value in global geopolitics and Modi the Butcher of Gujraat would've still been on America's ban list.

Yea right, India has zero value geopolitically and Pakistan is the most important nation? Yours a country of mercenaries, for the last 30 years you have been fighting for and against America and Taliban, and both use you by throwing some dollars or grenades at you. As for Modi, why don't u educate the Arab nations about him who are supposedly saviour of muslims and esp saviour of Pakistan as your PM runs to them for dollars every 2nd month? Three Arab nations including UAE and Saudis have conferred their highest civilian awards to Modi, so much so to the butcher!
 
Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto Zardari on Tuesday defended his recent 'butcher of Gujarat' remarks about Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, saying that he was "referring to a historical fact”.

At a UN conference last week, Bilawal had described Modi as “the butcher of Gujarat,” a nickname he had earned for overseeing a pogrom of Muslims in Gujarat in 2002 when he was the state chief minister.

The foreign minister had said that instead of being punished for the 2002 massacre of over 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat, Modi was made the prime minister of India.

The remarks were in response to Indian Foreign Minister S Jaishankar who had accused Pakistan of being the “epicenter of terrorism” for “harbouring Osama bin Laden”

In his address, Bilawal said, “Osama Bin Laden is dead but the Butcher of Gujarat lives and he is the prime minister of India. He was banned from entering this country until he became prime minister. This is the prime minister of the RSS and the foreign minister of the RSS. What is the RSS? The RSS draws its inspiration from Hitler’s SS."

The Indian government had heavily criticised Bilawal’s remarks and workers of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) had staged protests in parts of the country, including outside the Pakistani High Commission in New Delhi.

In an interview with Bloomberg published today, the foreign minister defended his remarks, saying that he was “referring to historical reality". He said that the term "Butcher of Gujrat" was not his own invention but that Muslims in India following the Gujarat riots used that term for Modi.

“I believe I was referring to a historical fact, and they believe that repeating history is a personal insult,” he said.

Bilawal noted that it has been a few days since his remark and a member of the BJP has announced a INR20 million bounty on his head. "I don’t think the best way to disprove the fact that Mr Modi is the Butcher of Gujarat is to adopt such extreme steps,” he said.

“If I’m quoting somebody else, and speaking about a historical fact that Mr. Modi would prefer we forget about, the response shouldn’t be a threat of assassination,” Bilawal said, adding that the death threat “crossed a line.”

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Yea right, India has zero value geopolitically and Pakistan is the most important nation? Yours a country of mercenaries, for the last 30 years you have been fighting for and against America and Taliban, and both use you by throwing some dollars or grenades at you. As for Modi, why don't u educate the Arab nations about him who are supposedly saviour of muslims and esp saviour of Pakistan as your PM runs to them for dollars every 2nd month? Three Arab nations including UAE and Saudis have conferred their highest civilian awards to Modi, so much so to the butcher!

That is because Arab nations are sell out who only care about money and business with India. There is no reason for them to care about Modi being responsible for the slaughter of Indian Muslim's. Well you would expect a corrupt government like Pak's to always be begging for handout's so nothing new here.

No Muslim looks upon Arab's as being saviours of anything at a or Pakistan. They are only in it for themselves and rightly so. This is why I have never cared about Iraq, Palestine, Syria or any Arab war zone because they are not Pak's problem. Only a few idiots like Zaid Hamid think on those lines. the "butcher of Gujarat" title was formed by the Indian media not BB or Pak. Go and complain to Congress about why they did that.
 
India crying about Pak terrorism all the time is now outdated. It is like a habit they have in their attempts to fool the world. Has become boring and tedious all this 26/11 crying and that. The world has moved on and so should India. There would be no terrorism in India if they didn't kill innocent Kashmiris then say to the UN you can't come in and see! India does not tell Pak what we can or cannot say!

The bigger the country the better the economy to a large extent. Once again there is no reason why Arab's should care about Pak. Modi is often relegated to standing n the back row when world leaders get together.
 
The RSS protest is over it seems as is their demands of an apology that was never forthcoming. After burning s few Pak flags and giving themselves a sore throat with all that shouting they have returned home. We are friends again:usman
 
What's the point of crying over what Bilawal said? He is factually correct. No amount of Indian delusion will change that.
 
Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto Zardari on Tuesday defended his recent 'butcher of Gujarat' remarks about Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, saying that he was "referring to a historical fact”.

At a UN conference last week, Bilawal had described Modi as “the butcher of Gujarat,” a nickname he had earned for overseeing a pogrom of Muslims in Gujarat in 2002 when he was the state chief minister.

The foreign minister had said that instead of being punished for the 2002 massacre of over 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat, Modi was made the prime minister of India.

The remarks were in response to Indian Foreign Minister S Jaishankar who had accused Pakistan of being the “epicenter of terrorism” for “harbouring Osama bin Laden”

In his address, Bilawal said, “Osama Bin Laden is dead but the Butcher of Gujarat lives and he is the prime minister of India. He was banned from entering this country until he became prime minister. This is the prime minister of the RSS and the foreign minister of the RSS. What is the RSS? The RSS draws its inspiration from Hitler’s SS."

The Indian government had heavily criticised Bilawal’s remarks and workers of the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) had staged protests in parts of the country, including outside the Pakistani High Commission in New Delhi.

In an interview with Bloomberg published today, the foreign minister defended his remarks, saying that he was “referring to historical reality". He said that the term "Butcher of Gujrat" was not his own invention but that Muslims in India following the Gujarat riots used that term for Modi.

“I believe I was referring to a historical fact, and they believe that repeating history is a personal insult,” he said.

Bilawal noted that it has been a few days since his remark and a member of the BJP has announced a INR20 million bounty on his head. "I don’t think the best way to disprove the fact that Mr Modi is the Butcher of Gujarat is to adopt such extreme steps,” he said.

“If I’m quoting somebody else, and speaking about a historical fact that Mr. Modi would prefer we forget about, the response shouldn’t be a threat of assassination,” Bilawal said, adding that the death threat “crossed a line.”

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They've already put a bounty on his head. What a pathetic lot.
 
What US Said On Pak Minister Bilawal Bhutto's Comments Against PM Modi

US shares multifaceted relationships with India and Pakistan and does not want to see a "war of words" but a constructive dialogue between the two nations for the betterment of their people, a top US official has said.

Relations between India and Pakistan have often been strained over the Kashmir issue and cross-border terrorism emanating from Pakistan.

"We have a global strategic partnership with India. I have also spoken about the deep partnership we have with Pakistan. These relationships in our mind are not zero-sum. We do not view them in relation to one another," US State Department spokesperson Ned Price told reporters at his daily news conference on Monday when asked about the recent outburst against Prime Minister Narendra Modi by Pakistani Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari in New York.

Price said each of these relationships is indispensable to the US and to the promotion and pursuit of the shared goals that the US has with India and Pakistan.

"The fact that we have partnerships with both countries leaves us not wanting to see a war of words between India and Pakistan. We would like to see a constructive dialogue between India and Pakistan. We think that is for the betterment of the Pakistani and Indian people. There is much work that we can do together bilaterally," Price said in response to the question.

"There are differences that, of course, need to be addressed between India and Pakistan. The United States stands ready to assist as a partner to both," he asserted.

The ties between India and Pakistan nosedived after India abrogated Article 370 of the Constitution, revoking the special status of Jammu and Kashmir and bifurcating the State into two Union Territories on August 5, 2019.

Pakistan foreign minister Bhutto-Zardari last week resorted to a personal attack on Prime Minister Modi and slammed the RSS after External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar told the UN Security Council that the "contemporary epicentre of terrorism" remains very much active and called for collective action to tackle them.

Though Jaishankar did not name any countries, it was apparent that he was making a veiled reference to Pakistan.

Later, he told reporters in New York that the world sees Pakistan as the epicentre of terrorism and recalled US leader Hillary Clinton's blunt message to Islamabad in 2011 that snakes in one's backyard will eventually bite those who keep them.

"The US has a global strategic partnership with India. These relationships stand on their own; it is not zero-sum.

"We see the importance - the indispensability really - of maintaining valuable partnerships with both our Indian and Pakistani friends. Each of these relationships also happens to be multifaceted," Price said.

"So even as we deepen our global strategic partnership with India, we also have a relationship in which we can be candid and frank with one another. Where we have disagreements or concerns, we voice those just as we would with our Pakistani friends as well," he said.

Responding to another question, Price said countries the world over welcomed when Prime Minister Modi told Russian President Vladimir Putin this summer that this is not the era of war.

"I think it is notable that the communique emanating from the G20 also had very similar language - I think a testament to the fact that this was language and this was a call that resonated in this country, in South Asia, in Europe, and around the world. The United States certainly welcomes it," he said. The top US official said it was also important because India has a relationship with Russia that the US does not have.

For decades, Russia was prepared to be a partner to India in a way that the US at the time was not. Of course, that has changed in recent decades, Price said.

It is a bipartisan legacy of the last several administrations, perhaps starting most notably with the administration of former US President George W Bush that the US is now a partner of "first resort" for India, he said.

"There is a lot of good that we can do together, not only for our two countries, but around the world, and I think we will see a good example of that in the coming year when India hosts the G20," he said.

"I know we will have an opportunity to travel to India, to be in close touch with India in the context of the G20, and we will be able to see what cooperation between our two countries and a broader set of countries can provide," Price added.

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Too bad that in the above report the American's did not side with India like they had thought. Now the RSS is threatening to murder BB yet they call Pakistanis terrorists.
 
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Pakistan's Bilawal Bhutto Pleads For Flood Aid After "Cameras Have Gone"

Pakistan's Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto Zardari urged the world to continue to help the South Asian nation recover from devastating floods ahead of a United Nations conference next month to mobilize funding.

Pakistan is facing an economic crisis with reserves covering one month of imports, a dollar shortage and a delay in its loan program with the International Monetary Fund. Investors are still concerned about the nation's ability of its debt, with long-term dollar bonds continuing to trade at distressed levels despite the payment of a $1 billion bond this month.

"We find ourselves in this incredibly difficult position where we're trying to manage our macroeconomic indicators with the IMF and provide the imminent relief for the people that is still necessary now in Pakistan, and plan forward for reconstruction and rehabilitation," Zardari, 34, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television in Washington DC. "Unfortunately, the cameras have gone, the attention has disappeared, but there are still floodwaters in many areas of my country."

Pakistan's unprecedented floods in the summer killed more than 1,700 people, inundated third of the nation and cut the nation's growth by half. The floods have left about $32 billion in damages and losses to the nation's economy.

The United Nations said the global community hasn't provided enough funds after the devastating floods in Pakistan and that may lead to the suspension of its food support program next month. The UN and Pakistan's joint appeal garnered only about 30% of the $816 million funds requested, according to Julien Harneis, UN resident and humanitarian coordinator in Pakistan. They will seek more funds at a conference in Geneva, Switzerland, scheduled for Jan. 9.

Pakistan has seen a delay in its latest IMF loan tranche amid prolonged discussions with the global body, which has asked for details on how much the nation will be spending this year for rehabilitation after the devastating floods. The IMF indicated that talks have been productive to revise the macroeconomic outlook after the floods, resident representative in Pakistan Esther Perez Ruiz said in a statement this month.

"The entire unity government agrees that it's important for us to deal with international financial institutions - we want to see the fundamental reform that's required for the overall health of our economy," Zardari said. "But at the moment, our number one priority has to be helping these people who are in extreme, extreme distress in the short, medium and long term."

'Eight-Month Tantrum'

Pakistan is also facing renewed political uncertainty, with opposition member Imran Khan planning to dissolve two of the four provincial assemblies later this week to push the government to announce fresh elections. Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif's government, which came to power in April after removing Khan through a no-confidence vote in the federal parliament, has in retaliation filed a no-confidence motion in the provincial assembly of Punjab.

Zardari, chairman of the Pakistan People's Party and the son of Benazir Bhutto - the Muslim country's first female prime minister who was assassinated in 2007 - called Khan "Machiavellian" and blasted him for failing to cooperate with the coalition government to help provide funding relief. Khan has hosted his own telethons to raise funds for flood victims.

"It should have been not just my priority, but everybody's priority to step up, to leave partisan politics aside and unite to meet this challenge," Zardari said. "Unfortunately, Mr. Khan has been throwing in eight-month tantrum that he has not been prime minister."

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What's the point of crying over what Bilawal said? He is factually correct. No amount of Indian delusion will change that.

Most of the world leaders welcome Modi with a red carpet. The leaders of Saudi and UAE award Modi their highest award. The only delusions are those that Pakistani leaders are harbouring. The world doesn't seem to care about their views on Modi or India.

Here Bilawal was throwing insults at Modi and some distance away the CIA chief was praising Modi that his views on use of Nukes have had an impact on Moscow. Putin was calling Modi to discuss the Ukraine war.
 
Most of the world leaders welcome Modi with a red carpet. The leaders of Saudi and UAE award Modi their highest award. The only delusions are those that Pakistani leaders are harbouring. The world doesn't seem to care about their views on Modi or India.

Here Bilawal was throwing insults at Modi and some distance away the CIA chief was praising Modi that his views on use of Nukes have had an impact on Moscow. Putin was calling Modi to discuss the Ukraine war.

So why are you guys crying about his comments? Stop throwing tantrums and move on if Bilawal is so insignificant. A BJP leader has already called for Bilawal to be beheaded and is offering a prize to anyone that will do so. Disgraceful to say the least.
 
Most of the world leaders welcome Modi with a red carpet. The leaders of Saudi and UAE award Modi their highest award. The only delusions are those that Pakistani leaders are harbouring. The world doesn't seem to care about their views on Modi or India.

Here Bilawal was throwing insults at Modi and some distance away the CIA chief was praising Modi that his views on use of Nukes have had an impact on Moscow. Putin was calling Modi to discuss the Ukraine war.

Oh bhai the world leaders also welcomed Taliban and Hitler at a time. It doesn't mean anything. If you are a facist terrorist, that is what you will be known as no matter how much you try to act like a diety. The red carpet would be rolled out for any Indian leader because who doesn't want to sell stuff 1.6+ billion people who have very little domestic production?
 
So why are you guys crying about his comments? Stop throwing tantrums and move on if Bilawal is so insignificant. A BJP leader has already called for Bilawal to be beheaded and is offering a prize to anyone that will do so. Disgraceful to say the least.

Crying? The only crying is from pakistan every year at the UN. It has only increased since Modi has firmly shut the door on any dialogues with Pakistan and downgraded the relationship to bare minimum.

Pakistanis now reacting to Zila Panchayat members. :)) . This idiot probably isn't known outside of his Mohalla. Though police should book him for such renarks.
 
Oh bhai the world leaders also welcomed Taliban and Hitler at a time. It doesn't mean anything. If you are a facist terrorist, that is what you will be known as no matter how much you try to act like a diety. The red carpet would be rolled out for any Indian leader because who doesn't want to sell stuff 1.6+ billion people who have very little domestic production?

Oh bhai, Pakistan doesn't decide who is facist or terrorist or butcher or whatever. Pakistan has little influence on such matters.

Why isn't anyone interested in selling to 220mn people?

Little production? Do you even know how much domestic production India has?
 
Crying? The only crying is from pakistan every year at the UN. It has only increased since Modi has firmly shut the door on any dialogues with Pakistan and downgraded the relationship to bare minimum.

At this moment all you guys are doing is crying over Bilo's factual remarks. Honestly couldn't care less about Pakistan's relationship with Ind, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up as if it's relevant to this discussion.

Pakistanis now reacting to Zila Panchayat members. :)) . This idiot probably isn't known outside of his Mohalla. Though police should book him for such renarks.

BJP Leader: "I declare that I will give a reward of ₹2 crore to anyone who will behead minister Bilawal Bhutto."

Seems very normal. Just another low-class BJP leader am I right? They seem to be all too common nowadays.
 
What US Said On Pak Minister Bilawal Bhutto's Comments Against PM Modi

US shares multifaceted relationships with India and Pakistan and does not want to see a "war of words" but a constructive dialogue between the two nations for the betterment of their people, a top US official has said.

Relations between India and Pakistan have often been strained over the Kashmir issue and cross-border terrorism emanating from Pakistan.

"We have a global strategic partnership with India. I have also spoken about the deep partnership we have with Pakistan. These relationships in our mind are not zero-sum. We do not view them in relation to one another," US State Department spokesperson Ned Price told reporters at his daily news conference on Monday when asked about the recent outburst against Prime Minister Narendra Modi by Pakistani Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari in New York.

Price said each of these relationships is indispensable to the US and to the promotion and pursuit of the shared goals that the US has with India and Pakistan.

"The fact that we have partnerships with both countries leaves us not wanting to see a war of words between India and Pakistan. We would like to see a constructive dialogue between India and Pakistan. We think that is for the betterment of the Pakistani and Indian people. There is much work that we can do together bilaterally," Price said in response to the question.

"There are differences that, of course, need to be addressed between India and Pakistan. The United States stands ready to assist as a partner to both," he asserted.

The ties between India and Pakistan nosedived after India abrogated Article 370 of the Constitution, revoking the special status of Jammu and Kashmir and bifurcating the State into two Union Territories on August 5, 2019.

Pakistan foreign minister Bhutto-Zardari last week resorted to a personal attack on Prime Minister Modi and slammed the RSS after External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar told the UN Security Council that the "contemporary epicentre of terrorism" remains very much active and called for collective action to tackle them.

Though Jaishankar did not name any countries, it was apparent that he was making a veiled reference to Pakistan.

Later, he told reporters in New York that the world sees Pakistan as the epicentre of terrorism and recalled US leader Hillary Clinton's blunt message to Islamabad in 2011 that snakes in one's backyard will eventually bite those who keep them.

"The US has a global strategic partnership with India. These relationships stand on their own; it is not zero-sum.

"We see the importance - the indispensability really - of maintaining valuable partnerships with both our Indian and Pakistani friends. Each of these relationships also happens to be multifaceted," Price said.

"So even as we deepen our global strategic partnership with India, we also have a relationship in which we can be candid and frank with one another. Where we have disagreements or concerns, we voice those just as we would with our Pakistani friends as well," he said.

Responding to another question, Price said countries the world over welcomed when Prime Minister Modi told Russian President Vladimir Putin this summer that this is not the era of war.

"I think it is notable that the communique emanating from the G20 also had very similar language - I think a testament to the fact that this was language and this was a call that resonated in this country, in South Asia, in Europe, and around the world. The United States certainly welcomes it," he said. The top US official said it was also important because India has a relationship with Russia that the US does not have.

For decades, Russia was prepared to be a partner to India in a way that the US at the time was not. Of course, that has changed in recent decades, Price said.

It is a bipartisan legacy of the last several administrations, perhaps starting most notably with the administration of former US President George W Bush that the US is now a partner of "first resort" for India, he said.

"There is a lot of good that we can do together, not only for our two countries, but around the world, and I think we will see a good example of that in the coming year when India hosts the G20," he said.

"I know we will have an opportunity to travel to India, to be in close touch with India in the context of the G20, and we will be able to see what cooperation between our two countries and a broader set of countries can provide," Price added.

NDTV

Prime example of Indians pretending their opinion and narrative is global opinion and narrative. Look at what state department spokesman said and than what Indian minister said. They are very different from each other.
 
Oh bhai, Pakistan doesn't decide who is facist or terrorist or butcher or whatever. Pakistan has little influence on such matters.

Why isn't anyone interested in selling to 220mn people?

Little production? Do you even know how much domestic production India has?

No need to decide on something that is factual. Facts are just facts it cannot be washed away no matter how hard you try. This man is the butcher of gujrat, he was black listed by the international community and he is behind the persecution of muslims in India. Those are just facts and you don't need to be a Pakistani to see that, you just need to have some humanity and consciousness.

Lol don't make me laugh about India's domestic production. We all know you are good at only making rice and atta. Maybe now some chinese factories moved to India because their labor is still cheap (more poor people) than China.
 
Well 25 years ago he would have been 9, so I’m sure he did his best.

I meant nearly 15 years and Bilawal comes out with this absurd statements. He should look at the state of Pakistani people and the economy under his government before opening his mouth.

And Pakistani people saying things about Modi, atleast generally he is loyal to his own country. Pakistanis should self reflect before talking about others. We are at the bottom of the pit and you people are more focused on India and Modi.

Pakistani people are deluded and would rather point fingers at others it seems. Focus on your own country.
 
No need to decide on something that is factual. Facts are just facts it cannot be washed away no matter how hard you try. This man is the butcher of gujrat, he was black listed by the international community and he is behind the persecution of muslims in India. Those are just facts and you don't need to be a Pakistani to see that, you just need to have some humanity and consciousness.

Lol don't make me laugh about India's domestic production. We all know you are good at only making rice and atta. Maybe now some chinese factories moved to India because their labor is still cheap (more poor people) than China.

Compare Indias export to Pakistan. Talk about needing to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the GDP of both the countries too. Appreciate what the Indians have achieved and try to better them.
 
Compare Indias export to Pakistan. Talk about needing to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the GDP of both the countries too. Appreciate what the Indians have achieved and try to better them.

Except for the fact Pakistans total population is less than 1 state in India. Appreciate the achievements a country 1/6 of your size has been able to make despite all your efforts to create trouble and hurdles for it. Still it's able to look you in the eye and call your bluff at an international stage. RSS goons at the Ghandi Statue unveiling 😂🤣🤣😂. For a country the size of India you would think people would have better sense than electing a fascist terrorist as leader but ofcourse muslim hating is the single best unifier in India and no one does it better than the butcher of Gujraat.
 
Compare Indias export to Pakistan. Talk about needing to wake up and smell the coffee. Look at the GDP of both the countries too. Appreciate what the Indians have achieved and try to better them.

India's GDP is much bigger than Canada and Australia. What should Canada or Australia learn from India and better from it?
 
We all know Modi was responsible for the murder of Muslim's in Gujarat. This is not an accusation but a fact that no fair minded Indian can deny. Just because the Arab's gave him a red carpet does not make him innocent. IK during his PM tenure regularly received a red carpet welcome too. What is this obsession Indian's have with carpets now?:facepalm:
 
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We all know Modi was responsible for the murder of Muslim's in Gujarat. This is not an accusation but a fact that no fair minded Indian can deny. Just because the Arab's gave him a red carpet does not make him innocent. IK during his PM tenure regularly received a red carpet welcome too. What is this obsession Indian's have with carpets now?:facepalm:
Not just red carpets, Modi was honored with the highest civilian awards of top Arabic Muslim nations..here is the list:

1. The King Hamad Order of the Renaissance, Bahrain - August 2019

2. Order of Zayed, UAE's highest civilian award - August 2019

3. Grand Collar of the State of Palestine - February 2018

4. Amir Amanullah Khan Award, Afghanistan - June 2016

5. King Abdulaziz Sash Award, Saudi Arabia - April 2016

6. Rule of Nishan Izzuddeen, Maldives - June 2019
 
Not just red carpets, Modi was honored with the highest civilian awards of top Arabic Muslim nations..here is the list:

1. The King Hamad Order of the Renaissance, Bahrain - August 2019

2. Order of Zayed, UAE's highest civilian award - August 2019

3. Grand Collar of the State of Palestine - February 2018

4. Amir Amanullah Khan Award, Afghanistan - June 2016

5. King Abdulaziz Sash Award, Saudi Arabia - April 2016

6. Rule of Nishan Izzuddeen, Maldives - June 2019

Of course he was. This is because these Arab's have major business interests in India. Once more Arab's rightfully don't care about other Muslim's and why should they? Money talks the loudest. Bahrain and probably other nations also awarded IK with a similar reward. Doesn't mean much to me.
 
That is because Arab nations are sell out who only care about money and business with India. There is no reason for them to care about Modi being responsible for the slaughter of Indian Muslim's. Well you would expect a corrupt government like Pak's to always be begging for handout's so nothing new here.

No Muslim looks upon Arab's as being saviours of anything at a or Pakistan. They are only in it for themselves and rightly so. This is why I have never cared about Iraq, Palestine, Syria or any Arab war zone because they are not Pak's problem. Only a few idiots like Zaid Hamid think on those lines. the "butcher of Gujarat" title was formed by the Indian media not BB or Pak. Go and complain to Congress about why they did that.

So Arabs don't care, west doesn't care and so i guess the only savior of muslims in general is Pakistan? Nothing wrong with that and its a noble idea that Pakistanis feel so much for muslims everywhere, but as they say charity begins at home, let Pakistan take care of its own Muslims first. Last i read was that this time around Talibani soldiers are now butchering Pakistani muslims for no rhyme or reason.
 
India's GDP is much bigger than Canada and Australia. What should Canada or Australia learn from India and better from it?

Australia imported goods worth 10.5bn usd last fiscal year. One of the biggest imports was medicines.

Its amusing how Pakistan wants to talk about India's economy exports etc. Atleast look at your own economy.
 
Except for the fact Pakistans total population is less than 1 state in India. Appreciate the achievements a country 1/6 of your size has been able to make despite all your efforts to create trouble and hurdles for it. Still it's able to look you in the eye and call your bluff at an international stage. RSS goons at the Ghandi Statue unveiling 😂🤣🤣😂. For a country the size of India you would think people would have better sense than electing a fascist terrorist as leader but ofcourse muslim hating is the single best unifier in India and no one does it better than the butcher of Gujraat.

You are 220mn. More than most countries in the world. Where do you stand economically? Where do you stand in terms of influence over geopolitical matters?

What are you boasting about?

Losing half of your country with surrender of 90k plus?

Or

Going to IMF umpteen times to get a bailout?

Or

Having to beg countries for loans?

A guy on my street abuses Ambani regularly. And he thinks he is calling out Ambani publically. :))

And Pakistan isnt the judge of who is fascist who isn't. Modi has done a brilliant job of closing all doors to Pakistan and showing how it doesn't affect India one bit.

The result is the frustration of pakistani leaders who resort to cheap attacks at the UN.

But does it change anything on the ground? No!

So Pakistanis can keep having the delusion that the whining of their leaders at UN is affecting India, while India keeps on its merry ways.
 
You are 220mn. More than most countries in the world. Where do you stand economically? Where do you stand in terms of influence over geopolitical matters?

What are you boasting about?

Losing half of your country with surrender of 90k plus?

Or

Going to IMF umpteen times to get a bailout?

Or

Having to beg countries for loans?

A guy on my street abuses Ambani regularly. And he thinks he is calling out Ambani publically. :))

And Pakistan isnt the judge of who is fascist who isn't. Modi has done a brilliant job of closing all doors to Pakistan and showing how it doesn't affect India one bit.

The result is the frustration of pakistani leaders who resort to cheap attacks at the UN.

But does it change anything on the ground? No!

So Pakistanis can keep having the delusion that the whining of their leaders at UN is affecting India, while India keeps on its merry ways.

Having a nuclear weapon to ensure we keep hinduvitas in check :). We weren't kidding when we said we will eat grass but we will get our nukes. I think we did slightly better than that though. India did not have to deal with wars from 1980s nor does it play any major world economic role. Just has too many people to export as cheap labor. Even then it is still has more poor people than Pakistan.
 
Australia imported goods worth 10.5bn usd last fiscal year. One of the biggest imports was medicines.

Its amusing how Pakistan wants to talk about India's economy exports etc. Atleast look at your own economy.

You mean to say Australia should learn to import less?

And what about Canada?
 
India's GDP is much bigger than Canada and Australia. What should Canada or Australia learn from India and better from it?

Then look Indias rising GDP per capita and compare it to Pakistans. If this isn't worrying for you then I dont know what to say.
 
We all know Modi was responsible for the murder of Muslim's in Gujarat. This is not an accusation but a fact that no fair minded Indian can deny. Just because the Arab's gave him a red carpet does not make him innocent. IK during his PM tenure regularly received a red carpet welcome too. What is this obsession Indian's have with carpets now?:facepalm:

You can makeup whatever you want.
These are allegations and nothing more.
 
Then look Indias rising GDP per capita and compare it to Pakistans. If this isn't worrying for you then I dont know what to say.

The difference is around 30%. It's not a huge difference - the difference between US and EU countries is greater. Pakistan's overall GDP grew 6% last year. IMO Pakistan can still recover the lost ground in the last 10 years or so, but the politics is holding Pakistan back.
 
The difference is around 30%. It's not a huge difference - the difference between US and EU countries is greater. Pakistan's overall GDP grew 6% last year. IMO Pakistan can still recover the lost ground in the last 10 years or so, but the politics is holding Pakistan back.

Considering current inflation in Pakistan, this gap is wider. And yes, this PDM govt is not only corrupt but also an enemy of the country. Do not expect any progress from them.
 
Having a nuclear weapon to ensure we keep hinduvitas in check :). We weren't kidding when we said we will eat grass but we will get our nukes. I think we did slightly better than that though. India did not have to deal with wars from 1980s nor does it play any major world economic role. Just has too many people to export as cheap labor. Even then it is still has more poor people than Pakistan.

How exactly you developed those nukes isn’t a secret to anyone. American dollars + Abdul Qadeer Khan ( someone referred to as a thief by Hasan Nisar).

https://nltimes.nl/2021/10/10/pakistani-scientist-stole-dutch-nuclear-secrets-dead-age-85
 
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You can makeup whatever you want.
These are allegations and nothing more.

We saw Modi run away from Karan Thapar because he did not have an answer. The USA rightfully banned him as well. It was his RSS that killed Gandhi too. Facts.
 
So Arabs don't care, west doesn't care and so i guess the only savior of muslims in general is Pakistan? Nothing wrong with that and its a noble idea that Pakistanis feel so much for muslims everywhere, but as they say charity begins at home, let Pakistan take care of its own Muslims first. Last i read was that this time around Talibani soldiers are now butchering Pakistani muslims for no rhyme or reason.

Every country only cares about itself. Why do you expect Muslim countries too care for each other when all are lead by corrupt leaders? How much does Hindu India care about Hindu Nepal just on the basis of sharing the same religion? Most Pakistanis I am afraid don't feel for Muslim's of other countries at all. It is a myth created by the media are some people on social media. Had we cared who have bombed Israel or gotten involved in Arab wars.

It is Pakistani soldiers who have taken care off those Talban terrorists. It is the Chinese that are hammering Indian soldiers after invading your territory which your mainstream media does not tell it's people. China is the aggressor and India is terrified off them.
 
Here are the RSS being ripped apart by many Indian's! RSS and Modi supporters will still continue to live in denial.
 
Pretty smart move by Zardari. He has nothing to lose. Any attention at this point is good for him. He wants to outshine his PM by taking on enemy PM directly. Pakistan is in a mess and not getting anytime soon or ever. Atleast he makes a strong pitch for himself as future PM.
 
Bilawal's comments are as relevant as the country he represents. A lot of fodder for social media wars online, but that's about it.
 
I haven’t gone through this thread yet, but I am particularly interested to see the 4D chess PTI supporters must have played to support Bilawal’s statements since it is echos their leader’s sentiments & criticize Bilawal at the same time.
 
Bilawal's comments are as relevant as the country he represents. A lot of fodder for social media wars online, but that's about it.

Totally agree. We are an irrelevant country with no credibility, no economy, no power, no positive global image, nothing.

When you have nothing, there is not much you can do other than talk & that is what we have been doing for a long time. All talk, no action.
 
Bilawal's comments are as relevant as the country he represents. A lot of fodder for social media wars online, but that's about it.

Nearly all countries are irrelevant. There may be 5-10 countries that are relevant at the global stage. Pakistan is actually in the upper half, if not the upper quarter.
 
Nearly all countries are irrelevant. There may be 5-10 countries that are relevant at the global stage. Pakistan is actually in the upper half, if not the upper quarter.

And declining. Till economy is not saved all this bravado is foolish. It shows weakness more than strength. If the idea was to earn political points domestically and send a message internally, it makes sense.
 
Nearly all countries are irrelevant. There may be 5-10 countries that are relevant at the global stage. Pakistan is actually in the upper half, if not the upper quarter.

Which are these 10 countries and what is the criteria for the ranking according to you ?
 
All I know is India is the scam capital of the world. They run the biggest scam rings who cheat upwards of $20billion from old retirees and innocent victims every year. This makes all south asians look pathetic and modi the butcher of gujraat has done nothing to stop it. Yet Indians want to create drama and put false accusations on Pakistan for terrorist fundings etc. Fix your own damn backyard first before you point fingers at others. Everyone in the world knows how the Indian government supports scammers and it is complicit.
 
Osama episode completely destroyed whatever (little) credibility Pakistan was left with.

Whether Pakistan accepts that they knew about his whereabouts or denies it, it cannot come clean. Either situation makes it look really bad.

Pakistan is lucky that they did not face global isolation & UN sanctions after that episode.
 
The Foreign Office on Wednesday rejected remarks made by Indian Minister of External Affairs S. Jaishankar in which he indirectly referred to Pakistan as the “epicentre” of terrorism while on a tour to Austria.

Jaishankar made the remarks on Monday during a joint press conference with his Austrian counterpart Alexander Schallenberg while on a two-nation visit to Austria and Cyprus.

“Since the epicentre [of terrorism] is located so close to India, naturally, our experiences and insights are useful to others,” Jaishankar had said, after making a mention of “cross-border practises” of terrorism.

That same day, Jaishankar said that he “could use much harsher words [for Pakistan] than epicentre” during an interview on program ZIB 2 on Austria’s national broadcaster ORF, when the host remarked that the use of the word “epicentre […] doesn’t sound very diplomatic”.

He added: “Considering what has been happening to us, I think epicentre is a very diplomatic word.”

‘Latest tirade’

In a statement issued today, the Foreign Office rejected the “baseless and frivolous accusations” made by Jaishankar and called his “latest tirade […] a reflection of growing frustration over India’s failure to malign and isolate Pakistan”.

It demanded that the “malicious campaign” to mislead the international community through a fictitious narrative of victimhood and vile anti-Pakistan propaganda […] must stop“.

The FO asserted that “India should itself end its involvement in terrorism, subversion and espionage against Pakistan”, citing the dossier released in December 2022, which contained “irrefutable evidence” of India’s involvement in the 2021 Lahore terrorist attack.

The statement also criticised India for its “brazen involvement in fomenting terrorism on Pakistan’s soil” as well as for its “state-sponsored terrorism” in India-occupied Jammu and Kashmir, saying that its “anti-Pakistan diatribe” could not hide these actions.

The FO further recalled various incidents in which India is alleged to be involved: “The death of over 40 Pakistani nationals on Indian soil in the 2007 Samjhauta Express tragedy to the arrest of Kulbhushan Jadhav — a serving Commander of Indian Navy — from within Pakistan in 2016, the evidence of Indian involvement in terrorism and sabotage is irrefutable and spans over decades and geographies.”

DAWN
 
Worth repeating what I said earlier:

Every time some Indian says "the world sees Pakistan as" ____ (insert something bad), they are trying to pretend Indian narratives and opinions = global narratives and opinions, and they are almost always wrong.

This applies to the epicenter crap Indians have been spouting off.

Much of the recent terrorism experienced by western nations has origins in ISIS - which are/were obviously based in Syria, Iraq and parts of North Africa.
 
Which are these 10 countries and what is the criteria for the ranking according to you ?

US, China, Russia, few European ones such as UK, France, Germany. You could also throw in India as well, primarily because of its large population and the resulting high GDP. Those are countries relevant at the global stage.
 
Nearly all countries are irrelevant. There may be 5-10 countries that are relevant at the global stage. Pakistan is actually in the upper half, if not the upper quarter.

Which are these 10 countries and what is the criteria for the ranking according to you ?

US, China, Russia, few European ones such as UK, France, Germany. You could also throw in India as well, primarily because of its large population and the resulting high GDP. Those are countries relevant at the global stage.

And Pakistan is in the top half of this list as you claimed ?
 
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