shaz619
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Last 41 matches, his strike rate is only around 82.
Not an elite batter currently. Nowhere close to the best.
In those 41 matches I wonder what kind of bowlers he faced as well
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Last 41 matches, his strike rate is only around 82.
Not an elite batter currently. Nowhere close to the best.
Even a tri series is a tournament.
Fact is he never won any ICC tournament
What's the strike rate of other batters with min 1000 runs in the same phase?
Sometimes, I feel like he is not mentally stable. Calling someone who plays at the international level a fraud is ridiculous.Biggest dogla analyst is this Akhtar. I remember him calling Babar the best many times and he even urged PCB to push Brand Babar as a solution to Pakistan woes.
He said when you make Abnormal people captain
Gary Kirsten with all his experience did say Rizwan should not be made captain.. probably he did display sth under his watch which detrimental to the teams losses in USAHe's advocating that the current captain is a weirdo.
It's true when you consider he compared Khushdil/Agha to Jadeja/Axar in the same league.
It’s a tournament however you want to look at it, a prestigious one, which the ICC were using as a template for the planned World Test Championship at the time.
Freshi Sahib app ki Urdu bohat Theeez hai compared to mine, but mai likho ga; Mr. Jay Shah, batha mujko barish sai Misbah Ul Haq ne Number Ekh kesai huwah?
Be careful what you wish for Major, I will ruin the little that is left of Misbah’s legacy![]()
Be careful what you wish for Major, I will ruin the little that is left of Misbah’s legacy
Is their even anything left to ruin now? Misbah’s greatest achievement is figuring out how to be an unstoppable force at home in test cricket.
Problem is this bafoon doesn't understand odi and t20 cricket for the life of him. The idea of tests is good aka fill the team with 40+ avg batters and players who love playing fc cricket, followed by a spinners galore in uae.
That same strategy of consistency doesn't work in odi and t20 for obvious reasons. The idea of rizwan and babar becoming t20 openers because they are more consistent then your main X factor has to be the biggest joke of the century.
Similarly filling your odi team with accumulators from no 1 to no 5 followed by bloggers at no 6 and no 7 is such a brain dead moronic decison that one questions how he was even made captain in the first place.
The sad thing is, rizwan and babar Sahib are following the exact same rubbish template.
2023 babar team
1) Imam (Accumulator)
2) Abdullah (Accumulator)
3) Babar( A)
4) Rizwan(A)
5) Saud (A)
6) Chacha (A)
7) Shadab (Striker)
8) Nawaz (S)
2025 Ct Pakistan
1) Imam (A)
2) Babar (A)
3) Saud (A)
4) Rizwan (A)
5) Agha (S)
6) Tayyab (S)
7) Khushdil (S)
2025 Pakistan is slightly better mainly due to Agha reinventing his game, But what a rubbish template.
Now look at sarfi's squad
1) Fakhar (S)
2) Azhar/Imam (A)
3) Babar (A)
4) Hafeez (S)
5) Haris sohail (S)
6) Malik (S)
7) Sarfi (A)
8) Imad (S)
^^ Look how balanced this side is? Odi is the definition of a mix or strikers and accumulators lol, Misbah, and rjzzu still believe in 5 to 6 accumulators at the top?
He will play them against Hunain Shah in the PSL, and then Misbah will argue that Babar is improving and adding those shots in the Pavilion. And Major will point it out as if Misbah is a legendary analyst
spot on. This was the biggest mistake. PCB has a big mental issue, anyone who is performing automatically becomes eligible for captaincy for them. This is how stupid they are. He could never recover from the downfall.Biggest blunder for PCB was to make him the captain. Before getting captaincy, he was doing pretty well.
You can nitpick all you want and make every series as important as an ICC tournamnet for Akhtar's sake.A tri-series has never been categorised as a tournament but the ATC was and that’s a fact, it was way more prestigious then the ODI/T20 Asia Cups of today, and played between some of the ATG players across all nations.
But but. Misbaaahhhhhh. He has destroyed thiss world!!Babars hero is not Misbah![]()
You can nitpick all you want and make every series as important as an ICC tournamnet for Akhtar's sake.
Fact is, Akhtar never won an ICC tournament.
spot on. This was the biggest mistake. PCB has a big mental issue, anyone who is performing automatically becomes eligible for captaincy for them. This is how stupid they are. He could never recover from the downfall.
Completely agreed, if we have any dignity left, Babar should be dropped indefinitely and not considered for selection until he fixes his issues...Shabby has backed Babar in the past hence i wouldnt call him some godly analyst.
It was only Wassay and Iffi that have called out Babar and saya mafia from the start. They are the only true analyst when some geniuses on here called them entertainers etc.
Jokes on them and jokes on whole Pakistan.
The fact that this guy has failed in multiple icc tournaments and has such a low number of motms while sitting on number 1 rank in odis should have been an alarm for any sane fan. He is just a pro stat padder and thats it. Repeating it like a broken record.
What has this thread got to do with Misbah? Even though he has won an ICC tournament.Ok, tell me what achievement of Misbah’s as a batter is superior to Akhtar’s efforts in the ACC Championship TOURNAMENT, you can include performances during ICC WC’s to if you like….
Dukh ho raha hai na Major?What has this thread got to do with Misbah? Even though he has won an ICC tournament.
Point is, Akhtar is getting personal with Babar who unlike Akhtar has won an ICC Trophy and has also won a personal ICC achievement trophy aswell.
A guy like Akhtar that dragged Pakistan's name around with his antics should be the last one to get personal with Babar.
This argument of winning an icc trophy for simply being a part of a team and not doing anything is extremely flawed.What has this thread got to do with Misbah? Even though he has won an ICC tournament.
Point is, Akhtar is getting personal with Babar who unlike Akhtar has won an ICC Trophy and has also won a personal ICC achievement trophy aswell.
A guy like Akhtar that dragged Pakistan's name around with his antics should be the last one to get personal with Babar.
Ali Tareen crtisized the decision to select Imad, where did he get personal?Dukh ho raha hai na Major?
Where was this concern when Ali Tareen was mocking Imad Wasim? Oh right, you made a thread to laugh about it….
Forget akhtar you cant even compare umar akmal with babar azam in shorter formats. Babar azam can only dream of playing the innings he played against Aus in 2010 semi final.Akhtar has won games for Pakistan SINGLE HANDEDLY. Give me 3 games that Babar won for Pak single handedly.
Its not flawed. Every sport judges its players whether they have a championship ring or not. Whether its NHL, NFL, MLB or even Cricket.This argument of winning an icc trophy for simply being a part of a team and not doing anything is extremely flawed.
Rawalpindi Express has taken 444 international wickets and was the fastest bowler ever. And while his test and odi and t20 records aren't the best, they certainly aren't the worst either. Infact all our current pacers would die to have such a record. Actually 90% of the cricketing world would.
Minus bumrah and shami all Indian pacers would want that record due to their rubbish pace bowling talent minus bumrah and shami, eng, Sa etc would want to follow suit as these countries have only produced 5 to 7 better pacers all time.
Wi and aus are exceptions bit current wi wouldn't mind having such a bowler.
Babar on the other hand is a player who wouldn't get into most test teams. Bangladesh, Wi and sri lanka will accept him and so will Afghanistan. Nz, India, Aus, sa are all kicking him out, even bavuma is a better test batter on current form atm.
In t20 cricket no one will accept him atm.
He makes it into some odi teams but not top teams.
Akhtar is a better cricketer then Babar if you compare these 2 from that stand point.
I have a feeling PCB may make Saim Ayub the captain at some point. I think they shouldn't do it. Saim is an introvert just like Babar.
Captaincy should go to someone who is charismatic and who is a natural leader (Imran Khan, Sarfaraz Ahmed etc.).
He has struggled most against bowlers who turn the ball into him. His strike rate against off spin is something like 65 in this period and teams are targeting him just like NZ did in this Champions Trophy.In those 41 matches I wonder what kind of bowlers he faced as well
Enjoying his moment
yeah but no one considers robert horry greater than lebron cause he has more "rings"Its not flawed. Every sport judges its players whether they have a championship ring or not. Whether its NHL, NFL, MLB or even Cricket.
Sadly, Akhtar never won an ICC trophy, and that was because of his own behavior where he was either banned for drugs, or was involved in a fight with the coaches, players or PCB.
The guy fought with Asif and even Bob Woolmer. He was always in the news.
And people like him have the audacity to insult Babar?
Where did he get personal? IT WAS A COMPLETELY PERSONAL ATTACKAli Tareen crtisized the decision to select Imad, where did he get personal?
He made a critique, where were the personal remarks show meWhere did he get personal? IT WAS A COMPLETELY PERSONAL ATTACK
He pinpointed Imad. He made references to PCB officials who also mocked him.
He picked on a guy who has been isolated and targeted by the RizBar fandom, only because he spoke cricketing truths about them.
What critique did he make? His criticism was “this guy will cost you the World Cup because we lost to him”.He made a critique, where were the personal remarks show me
how is that personal?What critique did he make? His criticism was “this guy will cost you the World Cup because we lost to him”.
Where is the criticism? That’s a personal hate remark!
So what Shoaib Akhtar has said is right too?how is that personal?
And what Ali Tareen said was right. The guy did lost us the match against India.
Well offcourse, Joginder had more impact than Shoaib ever did. He took a very crucial wicket and won his country a trophy.Guess Joginder is better than Shoaib @Major coz this is weird ICC logic only Pakistani fans have
Babar never called himself a superstar, fans did.So what Shoaib Akhtar has said is right too?
But he is right though isn’t he?Babar never called himself a superstar, fans did.
He called Babar a Fraud. And he said You were a Fraud from begining. That is not a critique on his ability, thaat is just pure personal.
Like i said, Akhtar should be the last guy calling others as Fraud.
Nehra, Zaheer, Sreesanth with their two ICC trophies, one being a cricket world cup are then better than every Pak/SA fast bowler in history as well as most West Indies fast bowlers (their 80s-90s batch never won a cup and the 75 and 79 teams had different bowling lineups).Guess Joginder is better than Shoaib @Major coz this is weird ICC logic only Pakistani fans have
Well offcourse, Joginder had more impact than Shoaib ever did. He took a very crucial wicket and won his country a trophy.
While Akhtar only won himself genital warts before an ICC tournament.
Thats the thing, and ICC trophy matters the most, and if you cant be involved in winning that, than dont go around insulting players like Babar calling him a fraud.

Joginer was so impactful that he never played a match after that and became a cop.Even the most hyper nationalist Indian cricket fans will laugh at you if you say stuff like "Joginder was more impactful than Shoaib Akhtar "![]()
Akhtar is a bit of a nut, but what's wrong with that pic?
He would be right critisizing babars game, but when you call him a fraud superstar thats just personal.But he is right though isn’t he?
Who calls himself a superstar anyways?
A pakistani national representative drinking a beverage which is not allowed for Pakistani Muslims.Akhtar is a bit of a nut, but what's wrong with that pic?
I said more impact.“Joginder Sharma is a greater fast bowler than Shoaib Akhtar”
But I am the one who is applying for an Indian Passport!
Akhtar is right, he is a legend. He has every right to call himself a legend. He has done legendary things for Pakistan cricket and World cricket. He is remembered in the game like Warne was, or Tendulkar is, or Lara is. Akhtar is remembered as one of the guys who helped globalise cricket.He would be right critisizing babars game, but when you call him a fraud superstar thats just personal.
Btw, Akhtar calls himself a legend, so there are people that call themselves a Superstar. He even made a claim recently he is a passion, which i never understood what it meant.
AhhhI said more impact.
He directly won an ICC event, while Akhtar never did.
“Joginder Sharma is a greater fast bowler than Shoaib Akhtar”
But I am the one who is applying for an Indian Passport!
But Babar desperately wanted to become captain, so what could PCB do? Look at how he behaved with Afridi who always supported him, accepted captaincy behind his back and didn't even talk to him despite knowing Afridi was being unfairly removed as captain.Biggest blunder for PCB was to make him the captain. Before getting captaincy, he was doing pretty well.
Sorry he is not a legend. There is no such thing as doing a legendary thing lol.Akhtar is right, he is a legend. He has every right to call himself a legend. He has done legendary things for Pakistan cricket and World cricket. He is remembered in the game like Warne was, or Tendulkar is, or Lara is. Akhtar is remembered as one of the guys who helped globalise cricket.
He never called himself a legend in his playing days, but he is right to call himself a legend now.
Akhrat?Like I don’t want to disrespect this guy but it’s absurd to claim he is more impactful than Shoaib Akhtar
Pray for your aakhirat with these preposterous claims
It's because Indians don't go basis past performance. Pak lives on past performances and keep worshipping players for past.Joginer was so impactful that he never played a match after that and became a cop.
That is so true, Boom Boom had no method or thinking behind his cricket but somehow he had a long career. Pakistani fans and youngsters alike have been yearning for more ever since. However he is not a good example at all. Nobody wants to do the hard work, learn technique and skills. They just want to play mind less cricket. We now have too many wannabe Shahid Afridi's.I said this years ago. Its not only tuk tuk. It's also boom boom.
Shoaib Akhtar settling scores by taking a dump on Misbah. Misbah went with a new bowling attack by dropping Shoaib Akhtar, once he became captain. I don't think there is a batsman out here, who has modeled his batting on Misbah.Shoaib Akhtar, while speaking on a show on a local media outlet:
"Let's try to sum up Virat Kohli a little bit. Now tell me, who is the hero of Virat Kohli? Sachin Tendulkar has scored 100 centuries, and Virat is chasing his legacy."
"Who is Babar Azam's hero? Tuk tuk (Without naming any cricketer). You have picked the wrong heroes. Your thought process is wrong. You were a fraud from the beginning. You were caught from the beginning. You made it clear in the ICC Champions Trophy itself that 'I have become No. 1 for one and half days. You are no No. 1. You promoted the wrong people.”
????Shoaib Akhtar settling scores by taking a dump on Misbah. Misbah went with a new bowling attack by dropping Shoaib Akhtar, once he became captain. I don't think there is a batsman out here, who has modeled his batting on Misbah.
Strong words from Shoaib Akhtar but let me list some of his accolades for the younger folks on PP
- Moderate Drinker during his playing days
- Refused to bowl in the 2003 WC Game against India after getting hammered by Sachin
- Missed 2007 WC due to genital warts
- Compared himself to Imran Khan and then hit Mo. Asif with a bat when he laughed at him for that ridiculous comparison..
- Slapped Bob Woolmer during an altercation about music to be played in the team bus
- Issued a life ban by the PCB due to multiple disciplinary issues (later rescinded by PCB..)
@Rana
@Savak
@mominsaigol
@Markhor
@topspin
It is very clear to me who the real fraud was lol
Akhtars one shoe is more valuable than Babar Azam whole career. He rightly blasted Misbah and fake king. Guy has played his heart out and with passion obviously will be hurt watching such timid players playing for Pakistan. He doesn’t accept mediocrity. Guys like Rizwan Misbah Babar can’t even come closer to his aura.Remember, at the end of the day babar has an icc trophy while Akhtar never won any.
Akhtar should be the last person making comments on others, as we know his career very well.
Critisize babar for his batting, but no need to go so low.
The problem is not with fan adulation. The problem is with individual and the system. Sachin was given outrageous adulation for example but he never stopped working hard. In Pakistan, Akram was always a fan favorite but continued to work hard right through the end. Stop blaming fans!This is what happens when you over rate, over hype players and when players stop working hard on their craft, fitness and focus more on retaining their position in the team via social media campaigns, political connections. When they don't perform and let their country down badly, all the stakeholders brutally pounce on you.
Many Pakistani players need to be axed for a year or two with their their Nocs revoked. Force them to play domestic cricket and start from scratch
There was also the failed drug test before 2006 CT.Strong words from Shoaib Akhtar but let me list some of his accolades for the younger folks on PP
- Moderate Drinker during his playing days
- Refused to bowl in the 2003 WC Game against India after getting hammered by Sachin
- Missed 2007 WC due to genital warts
- Compared himself to Imran Khan and then hit Mo. Asif with a bat when he laughed at him for that ridiculous comparison..
- Slapped Bob Woolmer during an altercation about music to be played in the team bus
- Issued a life ban by the PCB due to multiple disciplinary issues (later rescinded by PCB..)
@Rana
@Savak
@mominsaigol
@Markhor
@topspin
It is very clear to me who the real fraud was lol