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4fer from Shaheen Shah Afridi & 88 from Fakhar Zaman help Pakistan level series with a 6 wicket win

I was watching the cricket earlier without Audio, why was Boult giving Fakhar an earful? Did something happen between them?
 
Plumb said:
If Boult was a pakistani pacer today He would have been labelled as "exposed":ssmith:ssmith
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If we had a pacer of his class we would not have lost 9 out of our last 10 matches against quality teams.
 
Madplayer said:
Inzi has 83 ODI 50s my word lol
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One of the most under rated player in history - his 122 at Karachi is probably the best innings in a loss, definitely from PAK.

Imran retired after 1992 WC & some Buzurgs must have feared him regarding new ball, so he went to No. 5, otherwise Imran would have made him the best no. 3 after Viv or leave the game in peace. Most of his ODI 50s ended when he became thirsty and wished to have a little nap in AC dressing room, other wise a set IuH was the most difficult obstacle to remove and he was equally good against pace & spin. Unfortunately bone head ....:(
 
Babar has batted proactively today. More of it please.
 
Mamoon said:
Inzamam would have scored 30+ ODI hundred, had he focused on his fitness and batted at three or even opened.

For a player of his capabilities, 10 ODI hundreds is nothing. Even Hafeez has surpassed his tally and Babar will surpass it in a couple of years.
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I think the 80 odd 50s he has scored and many of those being crucial match winning knocks still get him over the line as one of the best ever ODI batsmen of his time and even compared to many players now with inflated averages of above 45
 
MMHS said:
One of the most under rated player in history - his 122 at Karachi is probably the best innings in a loss, definitely from PAK.

Imran retired after 1992 WC & some Buzurgs must have feared him regarding new ball, so he went to No. 5, otherwise Imran would have made him the best no. 3 after Viv or leave the game in peace. Most of his ODI 50s ended when he became thirsty and wished to have a little nap in AC dressing room, other wise a set IuH was the most difficult obstacle to remove and he was equally good against pace & spin. Unfortunately bone head ....:(
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Well said. I remember him blaming his weight loss for his loss of form. Ended up deliberately gaining weight afterwards :))
 
MMHS said:
Now, I am not liking Fakhar - mentally he is an aggressive batsman who likes to dominate spinners; making an uncharacteristic hundred might be good for stats (and prove a point), but it won't change his situation much. He should be aggressive and attack Sodhi - if he gets out, so it be but one of the biggest mistake in cricket is to believe that stats would be better if an aggressive batsman curbs his basic instincts.

Once someone (Roubuck may be), asked Viv if he had gone for a SR of 60 (instead of 75) could his average gone higher? Viv said that, it would have reduced my average because I would have blocked about 2500 balls unnecessarily.

FZ is good as an aggressor, not steady operator - PAK has at least half a dozen to out perform him in that role.
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He's a weird one.

He needs time to get going and usually needs someone on the other end to take pressure off of him.

Azhar did it extremely well in the CT 17 Final.
 
Rana said:
I think the 80 odd 50s he has scored and many of those being crucial match winning knocks still get him over the line as one of the best ever ODI batsmen of his time and even compared to many players now with inflated averages of above 45
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Barring 2-3, he is indeed better than most top ODI batsmen today. Let the team down big time in World Cups post 1992 though, but he made captaincy a solid chasing unit during his captaincy. Unfortunately, that is the only good thing I can say about his "captaincy" as well as his post retirement accomplishments.
 
Madplayer said:
True. Conversion rate is an issue but he batted at 5 mostly
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Partly down to laziness and poor fitness.

Inzy + a modern fitness regime = a world ATG. Instead he is Pakistan ATG - still a damn good player and a legend but did underachieve a little.
 
Wow boy Boult really being taken to the cleaners here by Fakhar
 
Nasty Naz said:
I'd expect Hafeez and Fakhar to open with Azhar at 3. Allows Pakistan to go with 4 specialist bowlers and have an extra batsmen.
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Hope PAK still wins after that - particularly if Sarfraz loses the toss.
 
I expect Pakistan to win this series and the two after this as well (vs SA and Aus).

England series will be a challenge. If we can make it 3-2 either way, that should be the goal.
 
Darkrai said:
Wasn't he a lower order batsman though?
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No. 220 out of his 350 innings were at 4 spot or higher.

In Australia - 26.09 average (0 hundreds)
In England - 34.17 average (0 hundreds)
In New Zealand - 24.04 average (0 hundreds)
In South Africa - 31.38 average (1 hundred)

In a combined 127 innings. One of the most overrated ODI batsmen (incredible Test player though).
 
Mamoon said:
Just because I do not see it happening does not mean that I do not want it to get better.
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How will cheap point scoring against fans who want to celebrate on a forum making it better. Go write to the PCB to if you want bring about real tabdeeli. Fans on a forum can't make it better.

Win T20 bilateral series - Meaningless as only tournaments matter
Win Champions Trophy - Fluke
Win Tests in UAE - HTBs won't win abroad
Win Test in England - London Tests don't count

When can we celebrate then? You seem to keep moving the goalposts.
 
Mamoon said:
If we had a pacer of his class we would not have lost 9 out of our last 10 matches against quality teams.
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Grass is always greener on the other side. Work with what you got and stop looking at other's backyard:sanga
 
AJK said:
How will cheap point scoring against fans who want to celebrate on a forum making it better. Go write to the PCB to if you want bring about real tabdeeli. Fans on a forum can't make it better.

Win T20 bilateral series - Meaningless as only tournaments matter
Win Champions Trophy - Fluke
Win Tests in UAE - HTBs won't win abroad
Win Test in England - London Tests don't count

When can we celebrate then? You seem to keep moving the goalposts.
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This is like Fakhar Zaman smashing Trent Boult right now
 
Fakharrrrrrr Solid boy.... Boult should remember this spanking:salute Always feels good when we spank good bowlers
 
Mamoon said:
Inzamam would have scored 30+ ODI hundred, had he focused on his fitness and batted at three or even opened.

For a player of his capabilities, 10 ODI hundreds is nothing. Even Hafeez has surpassed his tally and Babar will surpass it in a couple of years.
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Agreed.

Even the other Ul-Haq, Misbah should have batted at 3 when we used to collapse like dominos.
 
Trent boult ruining Southee's figures by overthrows so that he alone doesnt look bad :))
 
Plumb said:
Fakharrrrrrr Solid boy.... Boult should remember this spanking:salute Always feels good when we spank good bowlers
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The bowler is as good as you make him psychologically. Pakistan have a habit of making certain big names feel like monsters against them
 
Boult :)))

This has been a game to forget for him.
 
Rana said:
The bowler is as good as you make him psychologically. Pakistan have a habit of making certain big names feel like monsters against them
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forget big names we make part timers look like unplayable :viru
 
Chokli said:
He's a weird one.

He needs time to get going and usually needs someone on the other end to take pressure off of him.

Azhar did it extremely well in the CT 17 Final.
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More than him, I believe the problem is PAK's batting tactics. I explained that in another thread - why he is struggling in Asia or like some thing). Grant is s side kick, can't say much about his 55 years with PAK batsmen :), but Arthur should have resisted to give such comments like Fakhar is to give a flying start or such.

They are forcing him to over do aggression & become an Afridi which will never work for a top order batsman, not even with Viv Richards. Think about today - he was chasing 210 and knew that if PAK bats 45 overs, game is won hence never tried to over do things, took his time and still kept an SR around 75 for his first 25 tuns or so. Now, he is dominating the game when 4 men are on line - this is exactly what Rohit Sharma does.
 
Chokli said:
Agreed.

Even the other Ul-Haq, Misbah should have batted at 3 when we used to collapse like dominos.
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NO.

No 3 in not only about a batting position - it comes with the highest diversity as well. Misbah was never technically good enough to face new ball, he would have struggled to survive. And, No. 3 needs multiple gear for situations like 2/1, 20/1 & 200/1 - guy had only 1st & 5th gear; he would have been lost within himself.

His best position for ODI was No. 6, because he was extremely fit to run for every contact (and not being Afridi he would have touched most balls when 9 fielders are on line), a clean hitter and he was quite intelligent, cool in chase. PAK should have used Umar, Haris, Maqsood & Misbah at 3, 4, 5 & 6 from 1st April 2011, and may be MoHa/Jamshed/Ahmed opener.

Unfortunately those 3 spots when to Azhar, YK & Asad :(:(:(:(
 
Fantastic by Pakistan. It's nice to finally beat a world class ODI outfit after the CT. Now would love to see Fakhar score the winning tons after he reaches his ton.
 
MMHS said:
NO.

No 3 in not only about a batting position - it comes with the highest diversity as well. Misbah was never technically good enough to face new ball, he would have struggled to survive. And, No. 3 needs multiple gear for situations like 2/1, 20/1 & 200/1 - guy had only 1st & 5th gear; he would have been lost within himself.

His best position for ODI was No. 6, because he was extremely fit to run for every contact (and not being Afridi he would have touched most balls when 9 fielders are on line), a clean hitter and he was quite intelligent, cool in chase. PAK should have used Umar, Haris, Maqsood & Misbah at 3, 4, 5 & 6 from 1st April 2011, and may be MoHa/Jamshed/Ahmed opener.

Unfortunately those 3 spots when to Azhar, YK & Asad :(:(:(:(
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I'm sure he would've done better than YK.

If anyone should have batted at 6 it should have been YK, he averaged 40 at 6!

Not sold on Maqsood, sad what happened to Jamshed and Shehzad.

Both had a lot of potential.
 
Fakhar out. Same problem with the short ball outside off
 
Come on Fakhar. Very unnecessary to play that shot vs Fergurson. Got out in a similar manner in T20.
 
Good innings. Should hold his head up high. Who knows if he got out early Pakistan may have lost this as we saw when they were chasing an almost identical target against Bangladesh not so long ago.
 
The 116 in the final gave him a year to play cricket

This 88 should extend his stay for another 6 months I recon
 
Still well played, he was two innings away from a chop and saved his career for SAF at least. Time for the "guy" to remain 20* against a top half side & improve stats.
 
topspin said:
Good innings. Should hold his head up high. Who knows if he got out early Pakistan may have lost this as we saw when they were chasing an almost identical target against Bangladesh not so long ago.
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a big difference between chasing 210 and 240 especially since Bengalis had a much better bowling attack.

I get where you're coming from though.
 
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