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Whom will you replace Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Nawaz, Rahat and Rizwan with?

Five players in the current ODI squad do not justify their places:

  1. Azhar - replace with Fakhar Zaman
  2. Asad - replace with Saad Ali
  3. Nawaz - replace with Anwar Ali or Amir Yamin
  4. Rahat - replace with Fahim Ashraf or Sadaf Hussain
  5. Rizwan - replace with Sarfraz

Also, imo only one of Malik or Hafeez should play. Sohaib or Shahzaib (respectively) should come for one of them.

What is your opinion?
 
1 Azhar - Haris Sohail.
2 Asad - Saad Ali.
3 Umar and Malik - Khushdil Shah.
4 Nawaz - Yamin.
5 Hafeez - Asghar.
6 Rizwan- Sarfaraz.
7 Rahat - Irfan jnr.
 
I would suggest following changes..
1: Drop Azhar, Hafeez, u akmal and asad shafiq

2: Add new bunch of youngsters like haris sohail, shahzaib hasan, fakhar zaman, usman salauddin.

My future playing eleven would be:
(Openers)
Sharjeel

Shahzaib/Shehzad
(Strong Middle)

Babar Azam

Haris Sohail (can bowl 4 to 5 overs)

Sarfraz Ahmad (c)(wk)

(Strong down order hitters)

Fakhar zaman

Shoaib Malik (can bowl 5 overs)

Imad Wasim (regular full quota as bowler)

(bowlers)

Muhammad Amir (regular full quota as bowler)

Junaid Khan/wahab riaz (regular full quota as bowler)

Hasan Ali (regular full quota as bowler)
 
None!!!! Because all these player will be retain for WI tour in the name of experience and earn points
 
Odis

1. Sharjeel
2. Shazaib
3. Babar Azam
4. Safraz - wk - c
5. Malik
6. Umar
7. Hammad
8. Imad
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Junaid/Ashgar

12. Junaid/Ashgar
13. Haris Sohail
14. Fahkar Zaman
15. PSL performer

Openers

Its clear we need more firepower

If Sharjeel goes early we are done, hence why I think Shazaib deserves a go because he is the only other vaguely consistent aggressive opener in Pakistan for the past few seasons. Plus he has improved his fitness.



Middle Order


For me Babar, Sarfraz and Malik pick themselves. I know Malik has many critics but he has justified his inclusion since his return. Number 6 remains the biggest concern and i feel Umar by the skin of his teeth ( or by the palms of Handscomb) has survived for another series. This has more to do with there being a lack of options of free flowing batsman to play down below. The only other option I see is Maqsood and he has more problems then Umar


Allrounders

Imad wasim is far from perfect but he has done well thus far despite the blip recently.

The other allrounder spot is an issue and yes i feel Hammad is again the best bet here.

When we look at this we should consider the options we have not the options we wish we had.

Out off all the batting allrounders in Pakistan Hammad is most suited to come in and hit big. I am a big fan of Amir Yamin and find his treatment disgraceful, but his style of batting appears to be best for a top 6 batsman. He can hit big but Hammad based on domestic cricket is better for striking it from ball one.
His bowling is a bonus and i feel if given a plan and a field he can do a job. He needs to model it on angelo matthews who still gets through quiet overs despite bowling even slower than Hammad, not to mention he is shorter than himself. This requires a smart bowler and a smart captain.

Besides when we look at the options who is there right now ?
Anwar ali's bowling has been awful
Yamin isnt suited for the reasons above and his bowling is worse than Hammad if there is no swing.
Amad Butt is considered too raw by management and is more a bowling allrounder.

the sand thing though is that Hammad hasnt been picked for the PSL. Either way we need to give allrounders a long run like both Imad and Anwar were given. Even bhatti was given a fair few games.



bowlers

The three pacers - Junaid, Hasan, Amir pick themselves, Not much else i can think off that inspire confidence

The second spinner is an issue, I am big fan of Zafar gohar and he offers something in the field and with the bat. Having said that its hard to look past ashgar's performances
 
Hammad is a decent hitter but complete fodder with the ball.
 
These are the changes we have to make, along with the strategies we must employ, in my opinion for...

Tests:

- Younis and Misbah have to retire by the end of the series against the West Indies at the latest.
- All four of Haris Sohail, Fawad Alam, Umar Akmal and Imad Wasim should be given an ample amount of match-time to prove their skills at the highest level.
- Shafiq should bat at #5, Azhar should continue to open with Sami and one of Babar or Haris should be our #3.
- Our bowling group should consist of Amir, Junaid, Riaz, Hassan, Shah and one of Asghar or Gohar. Any other bowler in imperious form should be in the running but the core should be picked from this group of six bowlers.
- Salman Butt should be kept away from the side, on account of his age. Same goes for Asif, unless he is still bowling well by this time next year.
- The PCB needs to organize a home test series, no matter who the opposition is.

ODIs:

- Sarfaraz Ahmed should be given the captaincy, ASAP.
- Azhar, Hafeez and Malik need to be booted from the team. Rizwan should be dropped too and told to improve himself.
- Sharjeel Khan, Babar Azam, Umar Akmal and Sarfaraz Ahmed have to form the core of our batting side.
- The scouts and coaches need to find that elusive, hard-hitting finisher that bats for us at #6 and preferably, bowls some tidy off-spin or medium pace too. Hammad Azam, please stand up already.
- Amir and Junaid need to be the standard opening partnership, Riaz or Irfan should be the first change and Imad Wasim should be the main spinner.

T20s:

-Stack the team with Babar, Akmal, Sarfaraz + four proper sloggers.
- Play Irfan in the important matches. Give Yasir Shah a go in this format too.
- Kick Malik

Something that applies to all three formats is that the selection should be based totally on merit and there should be some consistency in it, which Inzamam is doing admirably right now. Also, the pitches for our matches in the UAE need to stop being low, slow life-suckers and should offer help to bowlers and batsmen both.
 
yep, as is anyone competing with him right now

Anwar is averaging 50

Yamin will be worse unless the pitch is swinging which is rare these days.

Yamin has relatively more bite in his bowling, but would take Hammad over Anwar and Bhatti any time.
 
Nonetheless, don't expect any major changes from Inzi The Revolutionary. Worst CS we have had in quite some time.
 
What are Pakistan's bowling stats this tour? Batting has been amazing I think

Can anyone please post the bowling stats of Pakistani bowlers this tour
 
Hammad is below average alrounder. He averages 29 with the bat wd strike rate of 86.45 (that's not good enough for a hard hitter) in List A. He took 44 wickets in 70 matches which i think is pretty ordinary.
btw what about fakhar zaman (Averages 49 wd strike rate of 93)?
 
judging by an article PCB want Sarfraz as captain in tests as well. I would like this but if this were to happen he should not keep in tests. Gilly famously mentioned he couldnt captain and keep to warne. Sangakarra let go of test keeping as did AB. Dhoni is the only one who survied it and Sarfraz isnt dhoni

So in a post Misbah/Team Man world

1. Sharjeel
2. Azhar
3. Babar
4. Sarfraz - c
5. Asad
6. Haris
7. Rizwan - wk
8. Nawaz/Hasan
9. Amir
10. Riaz
11. Yasir

12. Fawad
13. Sami/Fahkar
14. Junaid
15. Asghar
16. Nawaz/Hasan
 
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No to azhar, hafeez, malik, asad and riz.

Sharjeel
*shahzaib*
Babar
Sarfaraz
Umar?
*Yamin*
Imad
Nawaz
Amir
Hasan
*Asghar*/junaid

Haris...if fit
Wahab??? Irfan???

Thats it..its bare im afraid, our cupboard.
 
Hammad is below average alrounder. He averages 29 with the bat wd strike rate of 86.45 (that's not good enough for a hard hitter) in List A. He took 44 wickets in 70 matches which i think is pretty ordinary.
btw what about fakhar zaman (Averages 49 wd strike rate of 93)?

everywhy thing you say is true, but we have to deal with reality

there arent any real late order hitters of quality in Pakistan.

Out of the few have Hammad has the best track record of coming in late and hitting out

only one comes is Ali Khan and he doesn't seem to care about fitness and his bowling is awful
 
Sohail khan is a good choice too. He just need a bit of grooming as an all rounder and must concentrate on his fitness level. I guess he is better choice as an all rounder as he is big and clean hitter of the ball and pretty handy in first spell when it comes to bowl.
 
Sohail khan is a good choice too. He just need a bit of grooming as an all rounder and must concentrate on his fitness level. I guess he is better choice as an all rounder as he is big and clean hitter of the ball and pretty handy in first spell when it comes to bowl.

By the time he is groomed he will be 35. We need to find 22-24 year olds otherwise investment is a total waste of time.
 

This depicts that we retain 4 batsman and, 1 Allrounder and 3 bowlers in our current Squad

Malik, Babar, Sharjeel, Umar(Still young and kicking) , Imad wasim( better than professor), hasan, amir, junaid(some time before gets in form)

Rest prove themselves flattrack bullies who bowl and bat at UAE grounds.....

These 8 are to be worked upon from which After WC, malik given a farewell.

Now who will be our young (atleast below 30) new lineup for our squad? ........
 
Openers:
Fakhar Zamman
Ahmed Shehzad
Shahzaib Hasan
Khurram Manzoor
Sami Aslam
Khalid Latif
Salman Butt(Yeah yeah i know....)

Middle Order:
Haris Sohail

Finishers:
Kamran Akmal
Khalid Latif
Shahzaib hasan
Fakhar Zaman

Spinners:

M Asghar
Shadan Khan
Zafar Gohar

Allrounders:
Fahim Ashraf
M Nawaz
Anwar Ali

Bowlers:
Zia Ul Haq
Ehsan Adil
Rumman Raees

Wicket Keeper: ***M Rizwan***(Replacement incase of injury to SAfi)

Captain : *** Sarfaraz Ahmed***

I know the above names seem not quite to the ones who have been dropped but ivesting on the young guns of few mentioned above (***few***) may bring us some fruits later on..... now who should be given the call ups?
 
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What course of action taken from here onward will determine whether this was a successful tour or not. For a team carrying so many passengers, we competed pretty well.
 
The best bet for Pakistan would be to form an ODI team primarily based on playing aggressive sloggers, pinch hitters, hitters or in other words "hacks". I'm not saying that we're going to win a lot of games by doing that but the result can definitely not be as bad as it is currently. We've had our hand at playing a team of players with good "technique" and that is why we are currently at the 9th slot in the ODI ranking. Too little firepower, can't find gaps, can't accelerate, can't play is testing conditions, can't play express fast bowling, can't play the short ball, can't even play close to run a ball. Where is the technique?

My theory may be rejected by many but I'm sure giving this a try will not be as bad as it sounds. It indeed is a gamble, but a risk worth taking. In a couple of past ODI series we have seen that chasing, the game was pretty much over on most occasions when Sharjeel got out because we know that the rest of our batting line up consists of players who cannot take 6 singles an over, let alone hit boundaries and sixes. What that leads you to think of is a team primarily filled with sloggers, just like Sharjeel. Yeah, if they would fail, they'll fail but at least when even a couple of guys would get going on the odd, we would have the chance of winning a game.

With this current team, we wont see this blokes getting all out for 99 too often but we'll never see them chasing 300. Never. Not even 230 if Sharjeel goes early. I say Pakistan ditch all these players and bring firepower into their squad and give them a go. Sharjeel Khan didn't perform very consistently early on but now when you've given him confidence and when he's sure of his spot, he notches up 3 fifties at a brisk pace where the rest of your batsmen can't get bat on ball.

My team would be:

Sharjeel Khan
Shahzaib Ahmed
Babar Azam
Umar Akmal (given he improves his fitness)
Naved Malik
Nauman Anwar
Awais Zia
Imad Wasim

And then followed up the whoever your bowlers are.

Now, I know, this sounds pretty strange, trust me, it does to me too. But, I've become so tired of watching meaningless cricket and this may not be the perfect alternative, but it is promising. The Pakistan cricket team we watch right now is not promising. Sure, they may win the odd game but it is definitely not promising. As a fan, you don't have any hope when we're chasing anything over 275, and when Sharjeel Khan gets out, the hope is further pushed down to its lowest ebb.

I would agree that PCB will never do this, or may never do anything else fellow PP'ers are suggesting because they are an incompetent board an are not ready to experiment, however, for the sake of hypothetical analogies and theories, I would also like the opinion of other posters as to how successful such a team could be. My take on this is that they may not succeed every time and they may lose more than they win but after they've gotten used to playing with each other and after they've gotten some experience, even if a couple of them get going, the game will be sealed.

Note: Any other players can be added to the team by replacing the other given they fit the definition of a Tullay-baaz. A slogger. A hack. Whatever you'd like to call. Someone famous for finding the boundary. But definitely not someone famous for his technique. For example; Sami Aslam, Imam Ul Haq or any of the current players.
 
Future of Pakistan cricket in ODIs

-Team
▪Shehzad/Butt/'Azhar Ali'
▪Sharjeel
▪Babar Azam
▪Harris Sohail/'Azhar Ali'
▪Sarfaraz Ahmed
▪Imad Waseem
▪?
▪?
▪Amir
▪Junaid
▪Hassan/Yasir/Wahab/?

Today's game is done, was not bad but felt like no one had the game awareness to pace the innings right.
Azhar,Malik,Hafeez & Babar all needed time to settle & then play their strokes, that should not be happening now! Run a ball is not good enough for ODI cricket anymore.

PSL is very key for us, need to produce & groom 3-4 players from there..

What do you guys think about the lineup? The "?" Is where i think PSL players should come in
 
Sharjeel
Shahzaib / Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz
Nawaz/Amir Yamen
Imad
Aamir
Asif
Hasan/Junaid
Asghar
 
^ Still we need some solid middle order batsman who can hit some shots too + they can rotate the strikes too
 
^ Still we need some solid middle order batsman who can hit some shots too + they can rotate the strikes too

Umar Akmal

Haris Sohail

Saad Ali is a good prospect

Jaahid Ali

Saud Shakeel

all are middle order and good batsman not sure about Usman Salahuddin
 
The best bet for Pakistan would be to form an ODI team primarily based on playing aggressive sloggers, pinch hitters, hitters or in other words "hacks". I'm not saying that we're going to win a lot of games by doing that but the result can definitely not be as bad as it is currently. We've had our hand at playing a team of players with good "technique" and that is why we are currently at the 9th slot in the ODI ranking. Too little firepower, can't find gaps, can't accelerate, can't play is testing conditions, can't play express fast bowling, can't play the short ball, can't even play close to run a ball. Where is the technique?

My theory may be rejected by many but I'm sure giving this a try will not be as bad as it sounds. It indeed is a gamble, but a risk worth taking. In a couple of past ODI series we have seen that chasing, the game was pretty much over on most occasions when Sharjeel got out because we know that the rest of our batting line up consists of players who cannot take 6 singles an over, let alone hit boundaries and sixes. What that leads you to think of is a team primarily filled with sloggers, just like Sharjeel. Yeah, if they would fail, they'll fail but at least when even a couple of guys would get going on the odd, we would have the chance of winning a game.

With this current team, we wont see this blokes getting all out for 99 too often but we'll never see them chasing 300. Never. Not even 230 if Sharjeel goes early. I say Pakistan ditch all these players and bring firepower into their squad and give them a go. Sharjeel Khan didn't perform very consistently early on but now when you've given him confidence and when he's sure of his spot, he notches up 3 fifties at a brisk pace where the rest of your batsmen can't get bat on ball.

My team would be:

Sharjeel Khan
Shahzaib Ahmed
Babar Azam
Umar Akmal (given he improves his fitness)
Naved Malik
Nauman Anwar
Awais Zia
Imad Wasim

And then followed up the whoever your bowlers are.

Now, I know, this sounds pretty strange, trust me, it does to me too. But, I've become so tired of watching meaningless cricket and this may not be the perfect alternative, but it is promising. The Pakistan cricket team we watch right now is not promising. Sure, they may win the odd game but it is definitely not promising. As a fan, you don't have any hope when we're chasing anything over 275, and when Sharjeel Khan gets out, the hope is further pushed down to its lowest ebb.

I would agree that PCB will never do this, or may never do anything else fellow PP'ers are suggesting because they are an incompetent board an are not ready to experiment, however, for the sake of hypothetical analogies and theories, I would also like the opinion of other posters as to how successful such a team could be. My take on this is that they may not succeed every time and they may lose more than they win but after they've gotten used to playing with each other and after they've gotten some experience, even if a couple of them get going, the game will be sealed.

Note: Any other players can be added to the team by replacing the other given they fit the definition of a Tullay-baaz. A slogger. A hack. Whatever you'd like to call. Someone famous for finding the boundary. But definitely not someone famous for his technique. For example; Sami Aslam, Imam Ul Haq or any of the current players.

Well, your concept is a bit risky but can be successful. But if you notice players in the teams like (india, southafrica, newzealand etc), they all are the players which are pinch hitters as well as technically solid. You just cant survive in modern cricketing era just by wildly slogging and throwing your wicket away. The players like virat, de villiers williamson are those players who can switch between slogging or building sensibly when needed. We need players like that who can switch their role according to the situation. I mean technically solid as well as clean hitter of the bowl.
 
Well, your concept is a bit risky but can be successful. But if you notice players in the teams like (india, southafrica, newzealand etc), they all are the players which are pinch hitters as well as technically solid. You just cant survive in modern cricketing era just by wildly slogging and throwing your wicket away. The players like virat, de villiers williamson are those players who can switch between slogging or building sensibly when needed. We need players like that who can switch their role according to the situation. I mean technically solid as well as clean hitter of the bowl.

I cannot agree more with you. But this is more of a short term solution. I hope domestic cricket can refine quality players and change them into that. At the moment, however, we are only available with the two extremes, wild slogging with a high chance of getting out or technically solid-ish players getting 50's but losing the game. Now the important thing is, the abundance of wild sloggers in your team will lose 6 games out of 10 but will win you 4. And if the other team has a bad day, maybe even more.

But the current team that we have, the technically "solid" players, they will lose 9/10 games. Guaranteed. They don't even try to win. In fact, I think they'd lose 10 on 10 and the only time they do win is the bad day the other team has.
 
I want to go with a young team under sarfaraz..

My team for ODIs would be

  1. Shahzaib
  2. Sharjeel
  3. Babar
  4. Haris
  5. Sarfraz - (c&wk)
  6. Umar akmal
  7. Hammad azam
  8. Usama Mir
  9. amir
  10. Hasan ali
  11. Junaid Khan


Reserves:

backup opener; Fakhar zaman or Imam ul haq

Middle order; Saad Ali

Allrounders: Imad wasim or Nawaz; Aamer yamin or Amad Butt

Pace Bowler: Sohail Tanvir (based on current regional one day cup performance)

Spinner: Asghar.
 
I cannot agree more with you. But this is more of a short term solution. I hope domestic cricket can refine quality players and change them into that. At the moment, however, we are only available with the two extremes, wild slogging with a high chance of getting out or technically solid-ish players getting 50's but losing the game. Now the important thing is, the abundance of wild sloggers in your team will lose 6 games out of 10 but will win you 4. And if the other team has a bad day, maybe even more.

But the current team that we have, the technically "solid" players, they will lose 9/10 games. Guaranteed. They don't even try to win. In fact, I think they'd lose 10 on 10 and the only time they do win is the bad day the other team has.

who is the captain in that lineup...
 
I agree with some of your decisions but disagree with others. For example, there is no need to drop umar, he is a great player, and the best power hitter we have, including all youngsters. Haris should be included, alongside shahzad, and the team mentioned below is capable of winning the champions trophy, Mark my words.
My ODI team:
Sharjeel
Shahzad
Babar
Azhar
Haris
Umar akmal
Sarfraz (C) (WK)
Imad
Amir
Junaid/Irfan - or any other good find bowler
Hasan
 
Azhar shouldnt be dropped but should be relieved from captaincy.....

What are you talking about? He never deserved to be in the ODI team on merit and it clearly shows why. It was insult of merit when he was not only brought back but made captain as well. He doesn't have a game for one day cricket. Very limited with no ability to rotate the strike and play risk free boundary shots. Not belongs to current day ODI cricket.
 
Sharjeel
Shahzaib
babar azam
sarfraz
malik
------ (power hitter based on domestic performances)
------ (power hitter based on domestic performances)
imad
hasan
amir
junaid
I don't think power hitting is required from start so adding some power hitters down the order can do the job..cz if we analyse the situation, it is clear that we were going at almost 5-5.50 per over at almost 40th over. (concluded from recent aus series) So in last 10 overs, we were unable to convert the solid start to a good respectable total.(300-350). So i think adding two players down the order who can get 80-90 runs in the last 7-8 overs will be good. So if we become successful getting 70-80 in the last overs, i guess our bowling is good enough to do the rest.
 
replacing azhar with a young big hitter will be more effective.. there should n't be any place for the player with stk rate below 80.. even his slow and defensive batting can cost us the match. And in above given lineup, i guess there are enough players who can build slowly so a big hitter is required down the order. Someone like anwar ali or fakhar zaman can be added in place of azhar..
 
Openers:
Fakhar Zamman
Ahmed Shehzad
Shahzaib Hasan
Khurram Manzoor
Sami Aslam
Khalid Latif
Salman Butt(Yeah yeah i know....)

Middle Order:
Haris Sohail

Finishers:
Kamran Akmal
Khalid Latif
Shahzaib hasan
Fakhar Zaman

Spinners:

M Asghar
Shadan Khan
Zafar Gohar

Allrounders:
Fahim Ashraf
M Nawaz
Anwar Ali

Bowlers:
Zia Ul Haq
Ehsan Adil
Rumman Raees

Wicket Keeper: ***M Rizwan***(Replacement incase of injury to SAfi)

Captain : *** Sarfaraz Ahmed***

I know the above names seem not quite to the ones who have been dropped but ivesting on the young guns of few mentioned above (***few***) may bring us some fruits later on..... now who should be given the call ups?

-Team
Shehzad/Butt/'Azhar Ali'
▪Sharjeel
▪Babar Azam
▪Harris Sohail/'Azhar Ali'
▪Sarfaraz Ahmed
▪Imad Waseem
▪?
▪?
▪Amir
▪Junaid
▪Hassan/Yasir/Wahab/?

Today's game is done, was not bad but felt like no one had the game awareness to pace the innings right.
Azhar,Malik,Hafeez & Babar all needed time to settle & then play their strokes, that should not be happening now! Run a ball is not good enough for ODI cricket anymore.

PSL is very key for us, need to produce & groom 3-4 players from there..

What do you guys think about the lineup? The "?" Is where i think PSL players should come in

I agree with some of your decisions but disagree with others. For example, there is no need to drop umar, he is a great player, and the best power hitter we have, including all youngsters. Haris should be included, alongside shahzad, and the team mentioned below is capable of winning the champions trophy, Mark my words.
My ODI team:
Sharjeel
Shahzad
Babar
Azhar
Haris
Umar akmal
Sarfraz (C) (WK)
Imad
Amir
Junaid/Irfan - or any other good find bowler
Hasan

Apparently there are people who are calling for Shehzad :facepalm: - Why do people keep insisting on seeing mediocrity. I swear my 12 year old kid brother can probably play better cricket.
 
What are you talking about? He never deserved to be in the ODI team on merit and it clearly shows why. It was insult of merit when he was not only brought back but made captain as well. He doesn't have a game for one day cricket. Very limited with no ability to rotate the strike and play risk free boundary shots. Not belongs to current day ODI cricket.

See I think he is someone around which the team can play... Somebody like sharjeel and Babar... Top order of Pakistan looks great with him. Yes he is a defensive player so he should not be given captaincy... Hafeez and Sarfaraz are better than him.
 
Azhar- Shahzaib Hasan
Shafiq- Saad Ali
Nawaz-Asghar
Rahat- Young Pacer that performs in PSL
Rizwan stays
 
Fakhar isn't good enough sorry.

Azhar with shahzaib
Shafiq with Haris
Nawaz with usama/asghar
Rahat with a young pacer as ellipsism said
 
Sharjeel
Shahzaib
Babar
Sarfaraz
Saad Ali/Haris Sohail
*Player that possesses a power game*
*Player that possesses a power game*
Hasan Ali
Mohammad Amir
Pacer from PSL/Junaid Khan
Asghar/Gohar
 
Changes won't make a difference. We have tried wholesale changes before leading to very bad performances. We will continue to do well in the UAE whilst struggling in Aus, NZ and RSA. No matter what team was played against Australia we would have gotten thrashed. Way ahead is to improve the domestic structure that the board never does.
 
Changes won't make a difference. We have tried wholesale changes before leading to very bad performances. We will continue to do well in the UAE whilst struggling in Aus, NZ and RSA. No matter what team was played against Australia we would have gotten thrashed. Way ahead is to improve the domestic structure that the board never does.

yeah like we did well in The last series against england in 2015, against Australia 2014 , against Newzeland 2014, these are the last major series i can remember in UAE and we were completely destroyed there
 
Test (post WI)
1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Haris Sohail
4. Babar Azam
5. Asad Shafiq
6. Fawad Alam
7. Sarfraz Ahmed-C
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Yasir Shah
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Sadaf Hussain/Zafar Gohar

Odi.
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Shoaib Malik/Saud Shakeel
5. Sarfaraz Ahmed- C
6. Haris Sohail
7. Hammad Azam
8. Imad Wasim
9. Ammad Butt
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Hassan Ali

T20.
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Shazaib Hasan
3. Babar Azam
4. Sarfraz Ahmed
5. Umar Akmal
6. Fakhar Zaman
7. Hammad Azam
8. Imad Wasim
9. Ammad Butt
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Hassan Ali
 
Apparently there are people who are calling for Shehzad :facepalm: - Why do people keep insisting on seeing mediocrity. I swear my 12 year old kid brother can probably play better cricket.

Please add me to that list too - who wants Shehzad back in the team.

Shehzad and Sharjeel are out best opening combination moving forward.
 
Change should come from the top, otherwise nothing will change.

Time for Chairman to retire now and Inzi should be replaced too.

Out of all, from chairman to selectors, coach , captains and players, I'm most disappointed with Inzi's performance.
 
Test (post WI)
1. Sami Aslam
2. Azhar Ali
3. Haris Sohail
4. Babar Azam
5. Asad Shafiq
6. Fawad Alam
7. Sarfraz Ahmed-C
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Yasir Shah
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Sadaf Hussain/Zafar Gohar

Odi.
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Shoaib Malik/Saud Shakeel
5. Sarfaraz Ahmed- C
6. Haris Sohail
7. Hammad Azam
8. Imad Wasim
9. Ammad Butt
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Hassan Ali

T20.
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Shazaib Hasan
3. Babar Azam
4. Sarfraz Ahmed
5. Umar Akmal
6. Fakhar Zaman
7. Hammad Azam
8. Imad Wasim
9. Ammad Butt
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Hassan Ali

Sadaf ? seriously ?
 
Five players in the current ODI squad do not justify their places:

  1. Azhar - replace with Fakhar Zaman
  2. Asad - replace with Saad Ali
  3. Nawaz - replace with Anwar Ali or Amir Yamin
  4. Rahat - replace with Fahim Ashraf or Sadaf Hussain
  5. Rizwan - replace with Sarfraz

Also, imo only one of Malik or Hafeez should play. Sohaib or Shahzaib (respectively) should come for one of them.

What is your opinion?

If you look at the squad of 15:
Hafeez would replace Shafiq (Hafeez was added late)
Rahat would lose his spot to Irfan most likely(Junaid has taken up Irfan's spot)
Rizwan will stay in squad but he was never our first pick.

So really you are asking for Azhar to be dropped from the 15 and replacing Nawaz with the great Anwar Ali.
 
I have zero hope from the current team. Unless you go for total revamp there's no future.
 
Shahzaib Hasan should partner Sharjeel at the top. If one of the two fires, we'll have a very good start.

Saad Ali or Saud Shakeel should play at 4/5 depending on where Sarfraz bats.

Asghar also needs to be included because Nawaz "the all-rounder" can't even score 10 runs.
 
Okay for Tests, I want to see Misbah retire. Bring in someone like Salahuddin or Alam to replace him. Replace Asghar in the squad with Hammad. Nawaz can play left-arm spinner, but Imad can replace him if selectors want. Drop Rahat, Sohail and Imran. Bring in Mir Hamza and maybe Asif. Any right hand pacer will do. Even Hasan Ali can be given a chance. As for openers, I say we give Sami a break and bring in Imam ul-Haq. Shafiq needs to switch places in the order with Babar. Make Shafiq vice captain. Sarfraz is not a good role model fitness wise and he isn't a great sidekick either. We can get back to the top with these adjustments.

For ODIs, many changes. Sack Azhar and drop him. Make Amir captain. We need a big name as captain. Not a meek guy like Azhar. Sarfraz isn't an ideal player for ODIs and as I stated, not a good role model. He should still be there based on past performances though. Babar can be vice captain. Drop TTFs! Shafiq, Hafeez, Rahat, Azhar and Malik all need to go. Bring in big hitters like Shahzaib and Maqsood or Iftikhar to replace them. Need a pace all-rounder too. One of Sohail, Hammad, Tanvir and Butt. I reckon that Pakistan can be a Top 5 ODI team with these changes made.
 
yeah like we did well in The last series against england in 2015, against Australia 2014 , against Newzeland 2014, these are the last major series i can remember in UAE and we were completely destroyed there

We do well in the UAE, I didn't say we do badly in England. It is in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa where we struggle the most.
 
We do well in the UAE, I didn't say we do badly in England. It is in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa where we struggle the most.

We never struggle in nzl this series was an anomly we were unbeaten for 32 years
 
you gotta understand that these imads and maliks and sarfaraz are players whose batting game suits subcontinent conditions, low bounce and less pace in the wickets. they aren't reliable lower order hitters in conditions where there is a bit of pace and bounce in the wicket or even when a 6.5 fast bowler like cummins or starc is bowling quickly in the death overs.

To score runs in such conditions or against such bowlers you need guys with muscles and strong wrists and quick hands. guys like morgan, head, jos butler, maxwell, miller, corey anderson, dhoni etc etc. such players can score 100-110 in last 10 overs.

If you dont have such players, you have to take another route and pack the top 5 with batsmen who bat regularly at 90+ strike rate and can bat at a 100-120 strike rate when chasing 320+ scores. this way you wont need to have players who have to go at 180-200 strike rate in the last 10 overs. This is kind of what India is doing in ODIs these days. also India has a small advantage. Virat kohli. but thats another discussion. basically top 5 are players who bat at 90+ strike rate regularly.
 
We never struggle in nzl this series was an anomly we were unbeaten for 32 years

What do you mean "we never struggle in Inzi this series". What does that mean in English? What world do you live in, we got thrashed for goodness sake.
 
Play Umar as an opener. Been saying it for months. He is not a finisher. He is your Rohit Sharma. Don't rate Nawaz and Rizwan personally.

Your ODI team must be

Umar
Sharjeel
Babar
Haris
Sarfaraz (c) (wk)
Malik
Imad
Usama/any other genuine spinner
Amir
Hasan
Junaid/any other pacer.

Your test team must be:

Sami/any other opener
Azhar
Babar
Asad
Fawad/Saud/any other batsman
Sarfaraz (wk)
Yasir
Asghar/any other genuine spinner
Amir
Hasan
Wahab/any other young pacer

Replace Hasan ali with a spin AR in Asia. Replace a spinner with a pace AR outside asia. Get rid of Misbah and Younis as soon as possible and build a team for dominating at home and prepare them for the next tours of South Africa and England.
 
For tests post Misbah and MYK.

1 Sharjeel.
2 Azhar.
3 Babar.
4 Asad.
5 Haris.
6 Sarfaraz*.
7 Hussain Talat.
8 Amir.
9 Hassan.
10 Yasir.
11 Asghar/ Wahab.

For ODIs Inc. WI tour.

1 Sharjeel.
2 Haris.
3 Babar.
4 Saad.
5 Sarfaraz*.
6 Khushdil.
7 Yamin.
8 Imad.
9 Amir.
10 Junaid/ Asghar.
11 Irfan jnr.
 
shouldn't be in the team:

1- Azhar Ali
2- Shoaib Malik
3- Umark Akmal
4- Rizwan
5- Nawaz
6- Rahat
7- Asad Shafiqe

May be In:

1- Ahmad Shahzad/ Shahzaib Hassan
2- Haris Sohail
3- Amir Yameen
4- Anwar Ali
5- ? Needs a Batsman who can hit big but not like umar akmal needs to understand the game too
6- ? Needs a Batsman who can hit big but not like umar akmal needs to understand the game too
7- Right Arm Pacer
 
Sharjeel
Ahmad Shahzad
Babar Azam
Haris sohail
Sarfraz
Hafeez
Amir Yamin/ can be Replaced
Imad Wasim
Amir
Hassan
Junaid
 
We need to get rid of oldies and take younger guys to ct, give them a chance :

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Shahzeb Hasan
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Sarfaraz
6. Fakhar Zaman
7. Aamer Yamin
8. Imad Wasim
9. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Junaid Khan
 
Apparently there are people who are calling for Shehzad :facepalm: - Why do people keep insisting on seeing mediocrity. I swear my 12 year old kid brother can probably play better cricket.

Shehzad deserves another go as much as amir, umar, malik, hafeez, junaid, azhar got

He has hasn't been given a longer chance than these guys with major flaws (exception of amir).........
They have come so will he, We dont have new faces, its always the same old, same old.......
 
Shehzad deserves another go as much as amir, umar, malik, hafeez, junaid, azhar got

He has hasn't been given a longer chance than these guys with major flaws (exception of amir).........
They have come so will he, We dont have new faces, its always the same old, same old.......

He's been given 75 ODI's, isn't that enough?
 
you gotta understand that these imads and maliks and sarfaraz are players whose batting game suits subcontinent conditions, low bounce and less pace in the wickets. they aren't reliable lower order hitters in conditions where there is a bit of pace and bounce in the wicket or even when a 6.5 fast bowler like cummins or starc is bowling quickly in the death overs.

To score runs in such conditions or against such bowlers you need guys with muscles and strong wrists and quick hands. guys like morgan, head, jos butler, maxwell, miller, corey anderson, dhoni etc etc. such players can score 100-110 in last 10 overs.

If you dont have such players, you have to take another route and pack the top 5 with batsmen who bat regularly at 90+ strike rate and can bat at a 100-120 strike rate when chasing 320+ scores. this way you wont need to have players who have to go at 180-200 strike rate in the last 10 overs. This is kind of what India is doing in ODIs these days. also India has a small advantage. Virat kohli. but thats another discussion. basically top 5 are players who bat at 90+ strike rate regularly.

I agree, our finishers dont get to chase mamoth totals in domestic circuit against world-class bowlers.
Maybe experimenting with 5 or 6 alike sharjeel may brink us the fate of WestIndies now or build us the England team.... Its a very huge risk but in my view as much as i would love seeing this happen............. I dont want our team become the likes of our beloved hockey team or the West Indies team..........
 
My dream ODI Lineup

I would love to see following ODI lineup in future:
Sharjeel Khan, Shahzaib Hassan, Baber Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Umar Akmal, Aamir Yamin, Imad Wasim, M.Amir
Sadaf Hussain, Junaid Khan
Reserves:
Haris Sohail, Tabish Khan , Mohammad Asghar, Sohaib Maqsood, Mohammad Nawaz

But i know even half of them would not be selected alaas :s
 
Keeping in mind good coaches available now with national team ( sharjeel example ) I would select a team that could win us the world cup in two years or at least be competitive, my team would be as follows.

Sharjeel khan
Harris sohail
Babar azam.
Sarfaraz Ahmed. (c)
Saad Ali
Shazaib hassan
Shadab khan
Aamir yamin
Mohammad Aamir
Atif jabbar
Junaid khan

In squad : Fakhar zaman (oppener), Gouhar Ali (Keeper), Hassan Ali (pacer)
Sadaf Hussain (Pacer), Imamulhaq (Opener/Top middle order).
 
New look Pakistan ODI Team

Its really disappointing to say that right now Pakistan ODI team is easily the worst in the last 20 years i have been watching cricket. Apart from a few players, majority do not justify there place in the team. That is well supported by poor team selection and captaincy options. As rightly pointed out by Muhammad Wasim in the post match analysis of the last ODI between Pakistan and Australia that we already had Rahat ali in the squad. Junaid Khan replaced Ifran and went straight into the playing XI. Does that mean Junaid is better than Rahat. If yes, then why wasnt he selected in the first place ahead of Rahat. And if not then why didnt Rahat play? Most of the players in the current ODI team are not suited to the modern day cricket. Who do u people think should be in the new look ODI team?

1.Sharjeel
2.U.Akmal
3.Azam
4.Sarfaraz
5.
6.
7.Imad
8.
9.
10.Amir
11.Junaid
 
Umar Akmal as opener is a new method being peddled by his supporters on PP to try and keep him in the side, even though he has not opened in domestics in a long, long while. Bhai yeh bhi try karke dekhlo, wahan bhi "talented" Akmal fail hoga phir koi aur tariqa dhoondna paregaa..
 
Correct me if i am wrong...Umar Akmal used to open when he was in the under 19 squad and was quite successful. Its worth a try ;-)
 
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