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A disastrous tour comes to an end - What changes would you like to see in future Pakistan teams?

Every time you post a lineup, Sarfraz's place goes one spot lower :))) can't blame you though. I don't know where to fit him in ODIs either

He's just there to keep. We need our top 6 to do most of the damage early. He can score his run a ball fifty in the final 10 overs while the tail swings away which they're capable of. Zafar and Amir in particular.
 
Say goodbye to Hafeez, Malik, and Wahab in all 3 formats.
Tell Misbah to retire immediately. He does not bring any value to the test team anymore.
Ask Younis Khan to reach 10k runs milestone in the West Indian tour and then retire.
Drop Asad from ODIs permanently and if he keeps scoring one hundred a series then drop him from tests too.
Groom another spinner to partner with Yasir who clearly is more effective when he has a support spinner.
Drop Azhar from the ODI team. Find an aggressive opener as his replacement.
Make Sarfraz captain in all 3 formats and Babar his deputy.
Bring in at least 2 fast bowling all-rounders who are not Anwar Ali or Bilawal Bhatti.
 
Retirement for YK and Misbah
XI for wi game in test to be

Sami
Azhar
Fawad
Babar
Shafiq
?
Sarfraz (c)
Shah
Amir
?
?

ODI

Sharjeel
Babar
Sohail
Akmal
Malik
?
Sarfraz
Imad
Amir
?
?
 
It has been said many times that When players are not in the team, they start to look like world beaters but looking at the various players and combinations put forward to replace the terrible players in the team atm, PK is in a dreadful state. Most of the names put forward are awful and in some cases barely FC.
Unless some real talent emerges from left field PK will remain at best 6/7 at worst 8/9.
 
What happened to Kamran Ghulam

Switch Sarfaraz and Imad.

Few years before I was sure that Kamran Ghulam had that game that Pakistan required. He was very good during his U19 days. He scored runs in the lead up to the U19 world cup but failed to score big in WC. By this time he should have been groomed as he had those ingredients of becoming an all round cricketer. He was a good fielder, a decent bowler and a very good hitter. I don't know what happens to Pakistani cricketers when they step from junior to senior cricket.
 
Few years before I was sure that Kamran Ghulam had that game that Pakistan required. He was very good during his U19 days. He scored runs in the lead up to the U19 world cup but failed to score big in WC. By this time he should have been groomed as he had those ingredients of becoming an all round cricketer. He was a good fielder, a decent bowler and a very good hitter. I don't know what happens to Pakistani cricketers when they step from junior to senior cricket.

Rotten domestic system happens.
 
What happened to Kamran Ghulam?

Few years before I was sure that Kamran Ghulam had that game that Pakistan required. He was very good during his U19 days. He scored runs in the lead up to the U19 world cup but failed to score big in WC. By this time he should have been groomed as he had those ingredients of becoming an all round cricketer. He was a good fielder, a decent bowler and a very good hitter. I don't know what happens to Pakistani cricketers when they step from junior to senior cricket.
 
PAK has only 3 ODI before CT. Hopefully, wickets in WI will be better than their recent usual - even if not, PAK should pick exactly the same combination that will be picked for CT.

Here are my 15
Captain: Sarfu
VC: Amir
Opener: SK, Shehzad
Middle Order: Babar, Malik, Umar
All-rounders: Imad, Hammad/Anwar Ali/Fahim
Pacer: JK, Hasan, Irfan
Spinner: The best leggi available

May be, we can drop one of the all-rounders & pick an extra batsman - Saad Ali or Haris - in that case Mian carries water and the lefti bats at 4. Umar makes the team as 2nd WK; otherwise they'll have to block one spot for Rizwan.

There shouldn't be any place for Azhar, Asad, MoHa, Wahab, Nawaz & Rizwan.
 
PAK has only 3 ODI before CT. Hopefully, wickets in WI will be better than their recent usual - even if not, PAK should pick exactly the same combination that will be picked for CT.

Here are my 15
Captain: Sarfu
VC: Amir
Opener: SK, Shehzad
Middle Order: Babar, Malik, Umar
All-rounders: Imad, Hammad/Anwar Ali/Fahim
Pacer: JK, Hasan, Irfan
Spinner: The best leggi available

May be, we can drop one of the all-rounders & pick an extra batsman - Saad Ali or Haris - in that case Mian carries water and the lefti bats at 4. Umar makes the team as 2nd WK; otherwise they'll have to block one spot for Rizwan.

There shouldn't be any place for Azhar, Asad, MoHa, Wahab, Nawaz & Rizwan.

I have no idea how Shehzad plays freakish innings in domestics but is a tuk tuk international batsman. Either Sarfraz or Shezzy should open with Sharjeel.

MoHa should be out for good, It is the end for him
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] You have mentioned to select best leg spinner as main spinner. Don't you think Asghar would be a better addition? Asghar is very very impressive in my opinion
 
I agree with the poster we should play the same team in wi that we will play in ct. This would be the 15 I would pick:

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam (vc)
4. Malik
5. Sarfaraz (c)
6. Haris Sohail
7. Aamer Yamin
8. Imad Wasim
9. Amir
10. Hassan
11. Junaid

12. Umar Akmal
13. Asghar
14. Sohail Khan
15. Ghulam Mudasar
 
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. PSL to decide ( Fakhar / Ahmed / New Face)
3. Babar A.
4. M. Hafeez ( Adds to the team as an all rounder and cant afford too many changes with WC qualification on line)
5. Sarfraz A. ( Captain)
6. Psl to decide ( Need a finisher with hitting ability)
7. Psl to decide ( Fast Bowling all rounder)
8. I. Wasim
9. M. Amir
10. Hassan Ali
11. Psl to decide ( Junaid / Wahab / New Face)

If we can find 4 decent players to fill the team needs then we surely will have a good core and results might follow soon
 
Micky Arthur and co - progress report?

Our fielding was a big issue in this series. And Wahab's discipline with no-balls still not resolved. To what extent do the management have to start taking more responsibility for these type of issues?

Considering they create the fielding drills, and should be watching over Wahab's no-ball issue in the nets already since everyone knows it is a problem.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] You have mentioned to select best leg spinner as main spinner. Don't you think Asghar would be a better addition? Asghar is very very impressive in my opinion

It's about combination. Already Imad is in the team & in future if Haris or Saud or both gets into playing XI then it'll be over kill with SLAO spinners.

I think, spin playing capacity is at its lowest level now hence every good team is trying to play couple of, at least one genuine spinner in middle overs & using them as a wicket taker; which PAK doesn't. These MoHa, Malik or Imad can dart around economically sometimes, but they won't take wickets of set batsman. For example, I can say that chasing 263 at waca against SAF or IND; Aussies would have struggled big time - MoHa/Imad never even could bring the asking over 6.

A leggi is must in ODI team & he must be used as a Test match spinner to get wickets. Asghar can play in Asia as 2nd spinner, but out side it has to be a leggi & Imad.
 
I have no idea how Shehzad plays freakish innings in domestics but is a tuk tuk international batsman. Either Sarfraz or Shezzy should open with Sharjeel.

MoHa should be out for good, It is the end for him

He is scoring runs & scoring them at a great rate - deserves a chance. There are not many options left either.
 
Sharjeel
Khalid Latif
Babar Azam
Harris Sohail
Sarfraz Ahmad (c)(WK)
Malik
Fahim Ashraf / Husain Talat / Ammad Butt / Ammar Yamin / Hassan Mohsin
Imad Wasim
M Aamir
Junaid
Hassan

backup players
Fakhar Zaman
Saud Shakil
Ahmad Shahzad
Wahab
Taj Wali
M Ashghar
 
Questions:
Why people still believe that Malik should be dropped ?
Umar Akmal is no Kohli, but is there any one better than him that can fill that late middle order spot ?
We won only one ODI, courtesy of Hafeez, still people want him dropped ?
Is there any allrounder, who has the potential to score 10 in over apart from anwar yamin?
 
My team for Wi tour and Champions trophy

Sharjeel Khan
Fakhar Zaman/Shahzaib Hasan
Babar Azam
Malik
Sarfaraz
U Akmal/Khalid Latif
Aamer Yamin
Imad Wasim/Zafar Gohar
Amir
Junaid Khan
Hassan Ali/Ghulam Mudassar
 
Questions:
Why people still believe that Malik should be dropped ?
Umar Akmal is no Kohli, but is there any one better than him that can fill that late middle order spot ?
We won only one ODI, courtesy of Hafeez, still people want him dropped ?
Is there any allrounder, who has the potential to score 10 in over apart from anwar yamin?

That's flawed logic - in that way PAK will go to 2019 WC with an average 35 years old team. 29 months left for next WC - ideally almost every player over 29 should be dropped after CT 2017, so that a new team can grow together.
 
Only dreams and memories can tell me that we are in serious, really serious need Mr. Imran Khan v2.0

Well we will settle happily for someone like Azhar or Razzaq currently we dont even have just a bowler as good as Imran Khan let alone all-rounder.
 
Well we will settle happily for someone like Azhar or Razzaq currently we dont even have just a bowler as good as Imran Khan let alone all-rounder.

Totally Agree with You Bro, definitely we should rather seek proper bowlers and batsmen rather than looking for another Sohail, Anwar, Professor Or Malik to include!
Even 9-year old can pick a better team!
 
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