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Ahmed Shehzad vs Ajinkya Rahane : The better future prospect?

Mir jibran said:
so who's ur opening pair for WC dhawan/rohit or dhawan/rahane
and I think rayudu will be a regular now
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Rayudu has no place yet.
I would go for Rahane and Rohit, don't see Dhawan doing anything in Aus/NZ. Rohit even though a terrible player the conditions suit him there.Rahane for a similar reason plays with the flow.
 
JaDed said:
Rayudu has no place yet.
I would go for Rahane and Rohit, don't see Dhawan doing anything in Aus/NZ. Rohit even though a terrible player the conditions suit him there.Rahane for a similar reason plays with the flow.
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I think India will go with 6 batsman 1 wk 1 spinner 3 pacers
 
In 2011, we went in with such a settled line-up:\

Sehwag (3rd WC)
Tendulkar (6th WC)
Gambhir (1st WC)
Kohli (1st WC)
Yuvraj (3rd WC)
Dhoni (2nd WC)
Raina (1st WC)
Harbhajan (3rd WC)
Zaheer (3rd WC)
Munaf (2nd WC)
Nehra (3rd WC)

Now we're carrying a bunch of noobs.
 
Avg of 48 playing away from Asia.

Career avg 44.5 and has played only 1 test at home.
 
Shehzad is more talented and gifted of the two.

Rahane though is pretty good but no where near Shehzad's aura.
 
Rahaane is light years ahead of Shahzad in test cricket. It's an insult for Rahane to be compared with Shehzad.
 
*Hundreds in all formats of the game.

*Flawless striker of the ball.



Shehzad's credentials are rather impressive, if he achieves his full potential he would be the Lara of this generation, mark my words.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
*Hundreds in all formats of the game.

*Flawless striker of the ball.



Shehzad's credentials are rather impressive, if he achieves his full potential he would be the Lara of this generation, mark my words.
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lol he cant play spin or swing properly, now recently having trouble with short balls too ... yeah sure, he will emulate Lara!
 
freelance_cricketer said:
*Hundreds in all formats of the game.

*Flawless striker of the ball.



Shehzad's credentials are rather impressive, if he achieves his full potential he would be the Lara of this generation, mark my words.
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Hold on Freelance, hold on. This is trolling of the highest order. Lara was the greatest player of spin of all time. Shehzad can't hold candle to Lara in this regard. Shehzad is a pretty good player but you're only inviting bashing to him by making surrealistic comparisons.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
*Hundreds in all formats of the game.

*Flawless striker of the ball.



Shehzad's credentials are rather impressive, if he achieves his full potential he would be the Lara of this generation, mark my words.
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This is trolling of the highest order
 
Don't want to comment on the comparison, but Rahane is one of the most free-flowing batsmen we have. There was so much hype around Pujara after that South African tour, but Rahane seems to be THE one now.
 
Sandeep said:
Hold on Freelance, hold on. This is trolling of the highest order. Lara was the greatest player of spin of all time. Shehzad can't hold candle to Lara in this regard. Shehzad is a pretty good player but you're only inviting bashing to him by making surrealistic comparisons.
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Lara is a legend and the second best batsman of his generation and one of the best ever,but that statement is a bit OTT.

Gavaskar/SRT even Sehwag can be considered to be as good if not better players of spin.
 
The only one who performed in England, Oz, SA and NZ. Will end up as a 50+ averaging batsman since he will play tests in India too. Unless, he turns out to be like Chandimal.
 
Lara was better than Sachin against spin overall. This doesn't mean Sachin was any less but just that Lara was simply better.

The greatest player of spin ever. Magical player.

Sehwag used to murder spinners too.

Him vs Lara would be a good competition.

But Sehwag used to get out to spinners later in his career way too often.

At their peak, Sehwag > Lara against spinners.

Overall, I would say Lara > Sehwag against spinners.
 
Rahane is miles ahead from Shehzad as a batsman but I will never compare his performance in the middle order with Shehzad's performance at the opening slot. Two different things.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Lara was better than Sachin against spin overall. This doesn't mean Sachin was any less but just that Lara was simply better.

The greatest player of spin ever. Magical player.

Sehwag used to murder spinners too.

Him vs Lara would be a good competition.

But Sehwag used to get out to spinners later in his career way too often.

At their peak, Sehwag > Lara against spinners.

Overall, I would say Lara > Sehwag against spinners.
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How do you reach the conclusion about Lara being better player of spin?
 
cricketjoshila said:
How do you reach the conclusion about Lara being better player of spin?
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Dominated Warne and Murali both in home and away conditions. Better use of feet to spinners.

Sachin kept it simple but had a slight weakness against good off spinners I feel.
 
Sachin before back problem was way better player of spin bowling than post back problems/tennis elbow injury.


Anyway lets stick to discussion. Shehzad is most certainly today's Lara while Rahane is pushing to be the next Mark Waugh. That's tells you about the difference in aura.
 
Saqs said:
Dominated Warne and Murali both in home and away conditions. Better use of feet to spinners.

Sachin kept it simple but had a slight weakness against good off spinners I feel.
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Tendulkar has a better avg in AUS than Lara and SRT's destruction of Warne in both Australia and turning pitches of India is well known.

Lara played just 4 test matches in LAnka and was bradmanesque there.

But Lara never did much on turning Indian pitches.

But overall SRT has played many more matches on turning pitches and done as well if not better than Lara.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Sachin before back problem was way better player of spin bowling than post back problems/tennis elbow injury.


Anyway lets stick to discussion. Shehzad is most certainly today's Lara while Rahane is pushing to be the next Mark Waugh. That's tells you about the difference in aura.
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I've had enough :)))
 
cricketjoshila said:
Tendulkar has a better avg in AUS than Lara and SRT's destruction of Warne in both Australia and turning pitches of India is well known.

Lara played just 4 test matches in LAnka and was bradmanesque there.

But Lara never did much on turning Indian pitches.

But overall SRT has played many more matches on turning pitches and done as well if not better than Lara.
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True, they rarely speak of Lara's failures against Indian spinners. :nehra
 
Varun said:
Dhawan
Rahane
Kohli
Rayudu
Rohit
Raina
Dhoni (c, wk)
Jadeja
Ashwin
Kumar
Yadav

Knowing Dhoni.
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Its more like if u r ignorant about Dhoni .

Dhoni has stick 5 bowlers ever since the new fielding restrictions came into play.And he has rarely if at all played 2 seamers

But he is suddenly going to switch to 4 bowlers and 2 seamers for world cup after playing different way all his career.Based on exactly what?
 
Both of them are neck and neck in the test averages stakes at the moment.
 
As it stands today - jinks is ahead- but it is not shehzads fault he has hardly played outside the UAE. So he still has it to prove.

Why are we comparing an opener and a middle order bat.
 
Varun said:
Both of them are neck and neck in the test averages stakes at the moment.
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Ridiculous comparison, rahane and pujara are neck and neck to claim the best batsman spot from our team, shehzad is technically flawed both against pacers and spinners. His footwork is atrocious to say the least. Don't just go by stats
 
spade said:
Ridiculous comparison, rahane and pujara are neck and neck to claim the best batsman spot from our team, shehzad is technically flawed both against pacers and spinners. His footwork is atrocious to say the least. Don't just go by stats
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Rahane has left Pujara back a long time ago. Pujara has lots to prove before he is compared with Kohli or Rahane. He hasn't shown anything which will make us to believe he is as good as Rahane at this point. Since Dec 2013 (the time India left for SA), Pujara has been competing with Dhoni and Dhawan. Rahane, Kohli and Vijay have been way ahead of him. Pujara is currently nowhere close to Rahane.


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giri26 said:
Rahane has left Pujara back a long time ago. Pujara has lots to prove before he is compared with Kohli or Rahane. He hasn't shown anything which will make us to believe he is as good as Rahane at this point. Since Dec 2013 (the time India left for SA), Pujara has been competing with Dhoni and Dhawan. Rahane, Kohli and Vijay have been way ahead of him. Pujara is currently nowhere close to Rahane.


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Undeniably Pujara has been below par in recent times which is unlike him, its only a matter of time before he picks himself up, definitely low on confidence, if by stats you are hinting that kohli has taken over the mantle from pujara, that's wishful thinking. kohli is going to remain poorer in tests than rahane and pujara by some distance.
 
giri26 said:
Rahane has left Pujara back a long time ago. Pujara has lots to prove before he is compared with Kohli or Rahane. He hasn't shown anything which will make us to believe he is as good as Rahane at this point. Since Dec 2013 (the time India left for SA), Pujara has been competing with Dhoni and Dhawan. Rahane, Kohli and Vijay have been way ahead of him. Pujara is currently nowhere close to Rahane.


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Undeniably Pujara has been below par in recent times which is unlike him, its only a matter of time before he picks himself up, definitely low on confidence, if by stats you are hinting that kohli has taken over the mantle from pujara, that's wishful thinking. kohli is going to remain poorer in tests than rahane and pujara by some distance.
 
Rahane is a quality player. He's a complete package. Rate him 2nd behind Kohli. I know he has scored a test 100 against SA but someone like Imran Tahir devalues it.
 
Batting as slowly as Shehzad at the moment.

65 (94) as an opening bat.
 
What a struggle it was for him in this innings. Does he struggle to take singles against spin just like Shehzad do? At least in this innings is was a complete struggle. Lets see if he can do something in the back end of the innings.
 
Lol, I think it's unfair to compare the two. Rahane is technically superior, I'd say he has better technique or at least equal to Kohli. He's still finding his feet in ODIs.

Rahane in ODIs is shaping up to be what everyone hoped for Shafiq to become, they have similar playing styles (when in full flow). Only difference is the former is starting to apply his talent while the latter is renowned for his "technique" but loses it as soon as he puts on the colored kit and faces up to any international level bowler.
 
f.b.m said:
Please, enlighten me. How many times has he scored at a strike rate of more than 100?
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That's ok man i agree Shehzad is the Shehzada of cricket next big thing and Rahane should stop playing ODI.
 
JaDed said:
That's ok man i agree Shehzad is the Shehzada of cricket next big thing and Rahane should stop playing ODI.
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If you're thick enough to believe that this is my opinion then there's clearly no point talking to you.
 
Shehzad's is ahead in ODIs at the moment, Rahane hasn't covered himself in glory in India either.

No debate in Tests and who the overall player is. Rahane is far superior and should comfortably have a better career unless something bizarre happens.
 
The ATG Shezzy would've provided much needed laughter therapy today.
 
Safe to say, Rahane is far far ahead of Shehzad in both tests and ODIs. Who knew Rahane could play a Raina-type knock too? Highly versatile, exciting batsman.
 
Joke of a comparison. Rahane is ahead in ODIs as well now, the comparison in Tests was always laughable.
 
A quick glance through the first few pages of this thread separates the wheat from the chaff, and it is not surprising who made what comment.
 
Both have had a similar tournament, one good knock each surrounded by average ones - with a lack of urgency.
 
#BOOM!

Awful knock by Rahane which cost India a chance in the finals.

Doubt he'll play an ODI again.

Averages 31 for a reason.
 
Gotta say this is one thread where the Indian batsman doesn't seem to be pulling away.
 
Bullet Drive said:
#BOOM!

Awful knock by Rahane which cost India a chance in the finals.

Doubt he'll play an ODI again.

Averages 31 for a reason.
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I think it was Kohli's Tuk tuk that changed the game completely and created pressure to the batsman at the other end and the upcoming batsmen , when Rohit and Dhawan were decently going with the target :misbah2. 1 (14,15 deliveries) is insane.!!
Rahane was doing a pretty decent job with his kaptaan, but the fact that he is limited and going all over the bowlers after getting settled in was not possible though

This is really what happens to Pakistan team most of the time when our legend comes in at a decent position and tuk tuk his life out of the game which makes other batsmen to either go into a shell mode or hack mode :facepalm:
 
Rahane is playing at the wrong position. He's best suited at number 3, IMO.
 
Rahane would be useful in 270ish chases. In 320 chases he will be a liability. If Rohit and Kohli have a field day then Rahane can play an excellent second fiddle in big chases.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Still wipes the floor with Shehzad in Tests.
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Every time you post anything, it is always some Pakistan v India narrative and how India > Pakistan. Why can't more of you be less defensive and objective like [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]
 
Rehane is a much better player than 'dotball Shehzad'.

Shehzad is only good for bashing Canada and Bangladesh.
 
IndianWillow said:
Rahane would be useful in 270ish chases. In 320 chases he will be a liability. If Rohit and Kohli have a field day then Rahane can play an excellent second fiddle in big chases.
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Make him open the innings and watch him become one of the best ODI batsman in the world.
 
Frank Underwood said:
Every time you post anything, it is always some Pakistan v India narrative and how India > Pakistan. Why can't more of you be less defensive and objective like [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION]
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I've noticed this too with this poster and he's old enough to know better, really.
 
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