Anyone here who eats beef being a Hindu?

[Varun]

Bacon refers to a style of cured meat, and it can be made from different animals, not just pork

Bacon is usually pork. But in Muslim countries beef versions exist which you might be referring to.

 

[HalBass9]

Born into a Hindu family. Been atheistic since around 17. Probably full-blown atheist from late-20s. Had gotten into some of the more spiritual Indian aspects in mid-20s. But didn't really stick.

So probably not Hindu anymore except on paper. But yeah, been eating beef for years now. When BJP lost my state elections, I did celebrate with some beef cutlets, but that offended by friend @Rajdeep here

So when people say “beef,” in India, are they referring only to cow, or can it be from other animals too?

Is that what you had?

 

[HalBass9]

Bacon is usually pork. But in Muslim countries beef versions exist which you might be referring to.

Not just in Muslim countries, but in the West as well. Surprisingly, many Westerners don’t consume pork, so they opt for other substitutes.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

It's an incredibly delicious meat though. No other meat can offer the utter awesomeness of bacon.

Agreed on the whole however. I think I've had this discussion with someone else on this forum. Many Muslims find the injunctions around alcohol easier to reason themselves around than pork.

I think it's pretty obvious as to why that happens. It has less to do with reasoning and more to do with conditioning

Muslim children are brought up with the idea that the pig is a ritually unclean animal that lives in and eats it's own filth.

When you are conditioned with that imagery, it can trigger a powerful disgust mechanism even when they're older and less religious.

It's easier to work around the injunction against alcohol by comparison.

Every Muslim friend/couple I'm close to drinks at least wine but I know only 1 person who eats pork .

 

[finalfantasy7]

Thread comes out of ignorance.

The oldest text to Sanatna, Rig veda, originates in modern day Uzbekistan, not exactly a vegetarian hot bed.

The vegetarian approach was a counter to the spread of Jainism in India, where "hindu" leaders coopted Jainism values.

The secondary reason might more economical, related to he resources needed to produce meet.

yet @uppercut tells me tha hinduism didnt adopt vegtarian from jainism, - every documentary ive watched regarding hindu being veg - always taunted me it came from jainism

 

[rpant_gabba]

yet @uppercut tells me tha hinduism didnt adopt vegtarian from jainism, - every documentary ive watched regarding hindu being veg - always taunted me it came from jainism

there are stories of devotee feeding meet Shivite (translates to vegetarianism) god, Shiva and eventually wiling to give up his eyes.

Kannappa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So, yes, the vegatarianism is a offshoot of the hindu revivalist movement which was a response to spread of Jainism and Buiddhism

 

[finalfantasy7]

there are stories of devotee feeding meet Shivite (translates to vegetarianism) god, Shiva and eventually wiling to give up his eyes.

Kannappa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So, yes, the vegatarianism is a offshoot of the hindu revivalist movement which was a response to spread of Jainism and Buiddhism

ok, thank you, @uppercut never said that

 

[Rajdeep]

Born into a Hindu family. Been atheistic since around 17. Probably full-blown atheist from late-20s. Had gotten into some of the more spiritual Indian aspects in mid-20s. But didn't really stick.

So probably not Hindu anymore except on paper. But yeah, been eating beef for years now. When BJP lost my state elections, I did celebrate with some beef cutlets, but that offended by friend @Rajdeep here

You could have celebrated with something else bro....like MTR Masala Dosa, Meghna boneless Biryani or Nagarjuna meals. However, killing and eating cows cannot be entertained.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Born into a Hindu family. Been atheistic since around 17. Probably full-blown atheist from late-20s. Had gotten into some of the more spiritual Indian aspects in mid-20s. But didn't really stick.

So probably not Hindu anymore except on paper. But yeah, been eating beef for years now. When BJP lost my state elections, I did celebrate with some beef cutlets, but that offended by friend @Rajdeep here

Don't worry about him mate, he also loves to have Big Mac in seclusion #TescoTales #RajMeinHaiHimmat

 

[HalBass9]

You could have celebrated with something else bro....like MTR Masala Dosa, Meghna boneless Biryani or Nagarjuna meals. However, killing and eating cows cannot be entertained.

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Wait, is that @uppercut?

 

[Rajdeep]

Don't worry about him mate, he also loves to have Big Mac in seclusion #TescoTales #RajMeinHaiHimmat

Ewww....

 

[sweep_shot]

All I can say is those who don't eat beef are missing out on delicious beef haleem, beef steak, beef biryani, beef burger, spicy beef curry etc.

 

[Vikram1989]

You never ate egg ?

Once or twice as a kid .

 

[Vikram1989]

Yes that is true.

But still never encountered any Muslim eating pork. I mean should have seen at least one.

I know a friend , back in my native place.He was barbaric in his taste buds wise to say the least.He just don't want to miss anything veg/non veg. He will repulse anyone with his food habits.

 

[finalfantasy7]

I know a friend , back in my native place.He was barbaric in his taste buds wise to say the least.He just don't want to miss anything veg/non veg. He will repulse anyone with his food habits.

can you remember the disgusting food habits he had, im curious

 

[sithb]

All I can say is those who don't eat beef are missing out on delicious beef haleem, beef steak, beef biryani, beef burger, spicy beef curry etc.

Mutton haleem is better

 

[pillionrider]

Bacon refers to a style of cured meat, and it can be made from different animals, not just pork

In India, pepperoni is where this would apply. Chicken pepperoni is quite popular. Almost all pizzas or food you can order online tends to avoid beef or pork for religious reasons. However, you can order pork-based products online separately through apps like Swiggy or Amazon. Like a packet of bacon or ham, just not from a restaurant.

But there are plenty of dine-in restaurants where you can eat pork-based stuff and even beef.

So when people say “beef,” in India, are they referring only to cow, or can it be from other animals too?

Is that what you had?

So beef bans in India are often misinterpreted. Cow slaughter is banned in most states and has been the case even before Modi. What you get as beef is often buffalo meat. But cow meat is also available. Each state has their own rules because there are always caveats and loopholes to help poor cow owners, but to also keep the loud religious lot happy.

So in my state, Karnataka, for example, the last time I checked, a cow older or younger than a certain age can't be killed. It's almost like making it practical for cowherds - when the cows are in their prime, don't kill them and this will keep the religious folk happy.

So the beef I've eaten could have been buffalo or cow. No idea to know, as my taste buds aren't that refined and there is no way to know unless I personally killed a cow and ate it to compare. But what I've heard is, the Kerala restaurants tend to serve cow meat.

I actually wouldn't mock a rural person who grew up among cows for not eating beef because it's like how I could never knowingly eat dog meat. But if you've never been around a cow and avoid it because someone told you not to, doesn't make sense to me.

Also, it has been often shown that the biggest beef companies in India have BJP leaders as the owners. So it's all mostly a pile of nonsense for political points.

 

[sithb]

So in my state, Karnataka, for example, the last time I checked, a cow older or younger than a certain age can't be killed. It's almost like making it practical for cowherds - when the cows are in their prime, don't kill them and this will keep the religious folk happy.

Cows or Bull's ?

Cows are only killed when they stop producing meat. Bull's (Male) can be bred for meat and are often killed in Kerala. Even for mutton, it's always the male animal which is preferred for slaughter. That's across all countries. Male Animals have more muscle and are tastier to eat than the female ones.

 

[Justcrazy]

Mutton haleem is better

Yes , but I think Biryani also is better with mutton.

 

[sithb]

Yes , but I think Biryani also is better with mutton.

Agreed. Most Indian dishes taste better with Mutton rather than Beef.

 

[Hitman]

No disrespect, but can any Pakistani poster here seriously explain what has made Pakistanis over the years believe that majority Indians are vegetarians?​

 

[sithb]

No disrespect, but can any Pakistani poster here seriously explain what has made Pakistanis over the years believe that majority Indians are vegetarians?

I'm mostly vegetarian too. I eat non veg once or twice in a week.

 

[Hellion]

Maybe try reading the thread. Many older posters were sharing their experience that they would eat beef at restaurants but not at home. Now even at restaurants it's a no go.

And I can tell you this by first hand experience. I own a restaurant that caters to the Indian community. We do not serve beef. Many people ask us beforehand if we do

So you're implying that increasing religious observance amongst Hindus is a sign of radicalisation . So what have I got wrong ?

Absolutely nothing.

It's the equivalent of a Hindu saying that "A Muslim who asks a restaurant if they serve halaal food" is a sign that Muslims have become radicalised

 

[pillionrider]

However, the thread specifically asks about Hindus. Given the way taboos about beef have grown over the last 100 years, I think it would be rather difficult if not impossible to find folks who claim to be Hindu and still eat beef. At best you might find an agnostic but more likely they'll be atheists.

This is actually inaccurate. Upper and lower caste Hindus in Kerala and the North-East eat beef. In Kerala, the Nairs might not cook it at home but have no issue eating it outside. And I'm not talking about outlier Hindus as you could find plenty of Brahmins who eat beef in cities.

Lower caste and tribal Hindus have traditionally eaten beef without a care. And in terms of numbers, they are significant and the majority of Hindus. Over time, some of them may have shed this diet in an attempt to seem more higher in caste, but the reality is, beef-ban is an upper caste luxury.

What I've observed is, among non-Brahmins, there is a a competition to appear more pure by adding more and more rituals and restrictions that never existed earlier. It's kind of amusing to see sometimes as restrictions are somehow confused with a higher sense of purity.

 

[pillionrider]

I'm mostly vegetarian too. I eat non veg once or twice in a week.

hahaha that makes you a non-veg person. Even I don't eat meat everyday and about the same as you but wouldn't consider myself a vegetarian by any stretch.

 

[jusarrived]

I love my beef steaks, but dont like beef in any other form infact hate desi beef dishes. Mutton is a much better tastier meat and offcoure nothing comes close to Pork. I can eat pork everyday if not for the scare of heart attack

 

[Red-Indian]

This is actually inaccurate. Upper and lower caste Hindus in Kerala and the North-East eat beef. In Kerala, the Nairs might not cook it at home but have no issue eating it outside. And I'm not talking about outlier Hindus as you could find plenty of Brahmins who eat beef in cities.

Lower caste and tribal Hindus have traditionally eaten beef without a care. And in terms of numbers, they are significant and the majority of Hindus. Over time, some of them may have shed this diet in an attempt to seem more higher in caste, but the reality is, beef-ban is an upper caste luxury.

What I've observed is, among non-Brahmins, there is a a competition to appear more pure by adding more and more rituals and restrictions that never existed earlier. It's kind of amusing to see sometimes as restrictions are somehow confused with a higher sense of purity.

I used to think the same but I've been noticing folks getting more and more conscious. I don't know much about North-Eastern Hindus but even Malayali Brahmins who I know either don't eat it or will deny eating it even if they sneak a rare guilty bite. Buffalo meat has virtually taken over.

Pity! I suppose this is how cultures change though. Many meats that were once popular in India like Venison and rabbit have virtually disappeared or are considered 'exotic'.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

No disrespect, but can any Pakistani poster here seriously explain what has made Pakistanis over the years believe that majority Indians are vegetarians?​

Don't know about Pakistanis, but we Brits tend to assume Indians are vegetarians. I think it might be because the Beatles and lots of hippies went to India during the '60s for spiritual reasons, and probably in the communes eating meat was considered taboo then.