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Are Abdullah Shafique and Saim Ayub the worst opening batting pair Pakistan has ever produced?

Both are pretty awful and have been getting a long lifeline in this team.

Can't believe fakhar has been discarded for these 2.
 
Imran Farhat and Nasir Jamshed

Azhar Ali and Ahmed Shahzad

Imam ul Haq and Abdullah Shafique


Pick the worst or most depressing
 
Saim should open with someone like fakhar zaman or atleast a strike rotator who ticks on... This shafique guy is mediocre to say the least, he goes on piling dots after dots and puts pressure on the opposite end.
An out of form and unfit fakhar or sharjeel is miles better than shafique.
 
I would rather just open with Shan Masood and Babar Azam for ODIs. few reasons:
1. Babar still seems like the best ODI batsman we have at the moment. giving him maximum overs is best.
2. Shan is here for some time it seems as Test captain, so allowing him ODI also benefits him in both formats for us, especially as prep for playing on overseas tours conditions.
3. Shan is good at rotating strike and is generally much more positive.
4. Allows giving others change in middle order. Kamran can bat up the order. We can introduce others in middle order. maybe even Saud who could be good for subcontinent especially playing spin in middle overs. Possibly even Qasim Akram in another slot.
 
I remember when Pakistan were opening with Abid Ali and imam at one point, I thought Jesus, is this the 1980s are we using snail like batsmen in ODIs where other teams are scoring are high rates.

Now we've surpassed that with an even slower and more inept pair, seems to be no logic when it comes Pakistan openers in ODis for last 8 years or so..
 
Amjid Javed said:
I remember when Pakistan were opening with Abid Ali and imam at one point, I thought Jesus, is this the 1980s are we using snail like batsmen in ODIs where other teams are scoring are high rates.

Now we've surpassed that with an even slower and more inept pair, seems to be no logic when it comes Pakistan openers in ODis for last 8 years or so..
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Same in T20s

They have a quota of having at least 5 out 7 Laanti batsmen in the team. This is the reason why you will always see a laanti who plays for himself as an opener in all of their teams running through into domestics and youth sides.


This is our quota system
 
Rana said:
Imran Farhat and Nasir Jamshed

Azhar Ali and Ahmed Shahzad

Imam ul Haq and Abdullah Shafique


Pick the worst or most depressing
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Azhar Ali and Ahmed shehzad is the best pair. Both are decent test batters and in odi have actually achieved something granted both were medicore and by 2018 shehzad was done in odi.

Imran farhat and nasir jamshed depending on the time period is either the best or worst as they were talented and have played gems before but fizzled out very quickly and Misbah's obsession to play them when they were unfit burnt corpses cost them their reputation + Jamshed fixing as well.

Imam and Abdullah are defo the worst. Imam isn't too bad cause he can stat pad but gets exposed when he faces good bowling however his 150 against peak England is probs his best innings he can latch onto. Abdullah on the other hand is a failure and is useless.

The first 2 opening duo achieved more. Imam is stuck qith Abdullah who's achieved nothing
 
mominsaigol said:
Azhar Ali and Ahmed shehzad is the best pair. Both are decent test batters and in odi have actually achieved something granted both were medicore and by 2018 shehzad was done in odi.

Imran farhat and nasir jamshed depending on the time period is either the best or worst as they were talented and have played gems before but fizzled out very quickly and Misbah's obsession to play them when they were unfit burnt corpses cost them their reputation + Jamshed fixing as well.

Imam and Abdullah are defo the worst. Imam isn't too bad cause he can stat pad but gets exposed when he faces good bowling however his 150 against peak England is probs his best innings he can latch onto. Abdullah on the other hand is a failure and is useless.

The first 2 opening duo achieved more. Imam is stuck qith Abdullah who's achieved nothing
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Imam’s 150 was standard for that day. I think England chased the score down in 44 overs, Pakistan had 300+ on the board.

I recon someone like Roy, Bairstow or Hales would have scored 200 had England batted first in Bristol that day.
 
Both of them are ultimate parchis

I have no idea how they managed to play for Pakistan in so many matches. They delivered null performances against top-quality sides like Australia and India.
 
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Rana said:
Imam’s 150 was standard for that day. I think England chased the score down in 44 overs, Pakistan had 300+ on the board.

I recon someone like Roy, Bairstow or Hales would have scored 200 had England batted first in Bristol that day.
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Imam and Abdullah are the worst opening pair.

Shehzad and Azhar are the best.

But all 3 are crap 🤣🤣.

Regardless Jamshed and Imran Farhat had more talent then everyone here but by 2013-2015 they were 100% the worst lol. Ct 2013 was hilarious.
 
mominsaigol said:
Azhar Ali and Ahmed shehzad is the best pair. Both are decent test batters and in odi have actually achieved something granted both were medicore and by 2018 shehzad was done in odi.

Imran farhat and nasir jamshed depending on the time period is either the best or worst as they were talented and have played gems before but fizzled out very quickly and Misbah's obsession to play them when they were unfit burnt corpses cost them their reputation + Jamshed fixing as well.

Imam and Abdullah are defo the worst. Imam isn't too bad cause he can stat pad but gets exposed when he faces good bowling however his 150 against peak England is probs his best innings he can latch onto. Abdullah on the other hand is a failure and is useless.

The first 2 opening duo achieved more. Imam is stuck qith Abdullah who's achieved nothing
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Ahmed Shahzad is a pathetic cricketer... has failed to play any meaningful knock ever...

Please refrain from including him in good openers or good batsmen or even good cricketers...
 
mon858 said:
I would rather just open with Shan Masood and Babar Azam for ODIs. few reasons:
1. Babar still seems like the best ODI batsman we have at the moment. giving him maximum overs is best.
2. Shan is here for some time it seems as Test captain, so allowing him ODI also benefits him in both formats for us, especially as prep for playing on overseas tours conditions.
3. Shan is good at rotating strike and is generally much more positive.
4. Allows giving others change in middle order. Kamran can bat up the order. We can introduce others in middle order. maybe even Saud who could be good for subcontinent especially playing spin in middle overs. Possibly even Qasim Akram in another slot.
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Babar has been absolutely spineless and pathetic in the past 2 years...

Drop him and ask him to improve - there should be a limit to how much he can play on his reputation alone without putting in any performances...
 
I think Saim is just a bit raw and needs more seasoning. Needs to work on his defence and strokemaking a bit more and I think he has a solid 10-15 years ahead of him. His bowling is also quite decent and can improve as time goes on. And he at least has been selected on merit as he's been participating in domestic tournaments. On the other hand, Abdullah Shafique does not make the team on ANY criteria. He's not even gritty like Imam and is double useless.

Dropping Fakhar is criminal and the PCB should be apprehended for this. You chose ego over your country
 
usman.sandhu said:
Ahmed Shahzad is a pathetic cricketer... has failed to play any meaningful knock ever...

Please refrain from including him in good openers or good batsmen or even good cricketers...
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I never called him a good cricketer so please refrain from twisting my words
 
usman.sandhu said:
Quoting your words "Azhar Ali and Ahmed Shahzad is the best pair" - own up to them... stop trying to wriggle your way out of this...
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The best pair from what @Rana Presented.

He presented 3 options

A) Imran farhat and Nasir jamshed

B) Ahmed Shehzad and Azhar Ali

C) Imam and Abdullah

Shehzad and azhar are still better then the other 2 options.
 
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I just don't understand the approach by Abdullah Shafique.

He came into the 1st ODI and he's blocking every single ball, no matter whether it's a good ball or not he's just blocking it back to the bowler. Atleast Imam would try to rotate the strike on each ball, if it's a block he tries to place it in the gap and get down the other end.

Abdullah just kept blocking and blocking, there's no way he in his right mind thinks this is the approach he should take in 2024. Or is he really just THAT mediocre that he doesn't trust himself?

And I'm definitely not defending Saim's failures but when your opposition partner is tuk-tuking every single ball it leads to the other guy having to take the risk and in turn losing their wicket to try and get some runs.
 
mon858 said:
I would rather just open with Shan Masood and Babar Azam for ODIs. few reasons:
1. Babar still seems like the best ODI batsman we have at the moment. giving him maximum overs is best.
2. Shan is here for some time it seems as Test captain, so allowing him ODI also benefits him in both formats for us, especially as prep for playing on overseas tours conditions.
3. Shan is good at rotating strike and is generally much more positive.
4. Allows giving others change in middle order. Kamran can bat up the order. We can introduce others in middle order. maybe even Saud who could be good for subcontinent especially playing spin in middle overs. Possibly even Qasim Akram in another slot.
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Everyone touting babar as opener. He was captain for 4 years. Why didn’t he open in ODIs? He knows that he’s useless against a new ball facing 10 overs against the best new ball bowlers in the opposition.
 
mominsaigol said:
The best pair from what @Rana Presented.

He presented 3 options

A) Imran farhat and Nasir jamshed

B) Ahmed Shehzad and Azhar Ali

C) Imam and Abdullah

Next time consider taking some reading classes.

Shehzad and azhar are still better then the other 2 clown options. Talking about their prices ofcourse.
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I'll reiterate, Ahmed Shahzad is not the best, I disagree with you...

Also, your comprehension of the English language is well below par...

Consider taking some classes - logic and English before you try to put someone else down for differing with your opinion...

Shame on you and your pathetic ruse for attention...
 
emranabbas said:
Saim should only play t20's and open with fakhar

Rizwan and babar should open in odis and statpad for 20-30 overs so we get a good start
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Saim is not even eligible to play club cricket, its a biggest fluke that he has represented pakistan in all 3 formats.
 
usman.sandhu said:
I'll reiterate, Ahmed Shahzad is not the best, I disagree with you...

Also, your comprehension of the English language is well below par...

Consider taking some classes - logic and English before you try to put someone else down for differing with your opinion...

Shame on you and your pathetic ruse for attention...
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I never said shehzad is the best. I said he and azhar are > Imam + Abdullah and > Jamshed + Farhat.

Why can't you lot understand this simple fact?
 
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