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What does that have to do with actively wanting your club to lose so that your agenda is justified?

There is no evidence of what you claimed but there is of you ending your belief in your team and manager by October. You were first Arsenal fan on earth to admit defeat , even tho you were right , try to pretend :wenger
 
I would be really disappointed if we don't find an upgrade to Martinelli. I'm not sure we have enough to win the title with a front four that consists of him and if we see an out of sorts Odegaard again.

Ideally, Arsenal need 3 very good players in the front 4.
Most fans online are doing the usual over gassing the transfer window buisness and proclaiming it as best transfer window over as we've signed 6 players.

Reality is Gyokeres is the actual only increase in numbers to the squad. All other signing have essentially replaced an ongoing player.

So there is not much change in depth, Arsenal still have a relatively small squad. One or two keys injuries or suspensions and you will soon see this squad exposed again.

Imagine spending as much as Arsenal have and reality is the there a midfielder serious lacking in creativity, still no left side attack up grade.

That's tells how **** this squad before has been put together.

6 new players in and we are still short of at least 2 / 3 high quality players.

Last season I said calafori was an injury liability before he joined, Merino was a bang average passer in midfield before he joined. Also Saka would get injured due to Arteta over using him

Your not the only one who doesn't think we have a enough and that's with "Berta cooking" and doing his best. If your spending this much and this main players in normally you would think the team would be going up a level.

Our midfield is dependent in Rice being good every game. Zubemendi hitting ground running and casper the ghost 👻 actually turning up. Your then asking 2 donkeys (havertz n merino) and a decent player from Brentford to otherwise step in and win you games in midfield

If your going to have a more functional midfield, that's fine it you have a potent high class front 3 or player maker and 2 strikers
 
Please show proof where I actively said I want Arsenal to lose? The fact your making stuff up again, typical retard nonsense

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But but Liverpool fluked it

But but PGMOL

But but it was a blip for Arsenal

Do you want a tissue for your tears?

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There is no evidence of what you claimed but there is of you ending your belief in your team and manager by October. You were first Arsenal fan on earth to admit defeat , even tho you were right , try to pretend :wenger
He likes to make up stuff to push his Arteta worship agenda.

Then he thinks I'm going to say something he's asked me to say, like I'm some sort of sheep lemming.

Once the season prediction thread is up we can all predict when he throws towel In and makes excuses this season 🤭
 
He likes to make up stuff to push his Arteta worship agenda.

Then he thinks I'm going to say something he's asked me to say, like I'm some sort of sheep lemming.

Once the season prediction thread is up we can all predict when he throws towel In and makes excuses this season 🤭

You can disagree with other Arsenal fans without ganging up with trolls from other clubs. With the greatest of respect, it’s not a good look.

I would say the same if other Arsenal fans on here did the same thing to you.
 
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Most fans online are doing the usual over gassing the transfer window buisness and proclaiming it as best transfer window over as we've signed 6 players.

Reality is Gyokeres is the actual only increase in numbers to the squad. All other signing have essentially replaced an ongoing player.

So there is not much change in depth, Arsenal still have a relatively small squad. One or two keys injuries or suspensions and you will soon see this squad exposed again.

Imagine spending as much as Arsenal have and reality is the there a midfielder serious lacking in creativity, still no left side attack up grade.

That's tells how **** this squad before has been put together.

6 new players in and we are still short of at least 2 / 3 high quality players.

Last season I said calafori was an injury liability before he joined, Merino was a bang average passer in midfield before he joined. Also Saka would get injured due to Arteta over using him

Your not the only one who doesn't think we have a enough and that's with "Berta cooking" and doing his best. If your spending this much and this main players in normally you would think the team would be going up a level.

Our midfield is dependent in Rice being good every game. Zubemendi hitting ground running and casper the ghost 👻 actually turning up. Your then asking 2 donkeys (havertz n merino) and a decent player from Brentford to otherwise step in and win you games in midfield

If your going to have a more functional midfield, that's fine it you have a potent high class front 3 or player maker and 2 strikers

I do think Zubimendi might turn out to be an upgrade on Partey. He may not be a match when it comes to physicality but I think his technical ability, mentality and composure will make him a superior replacement.

Merino has been disappointing. The fact that he’s done better in his makeshift role as CF shows that he’s not a good enough to be playing at this level as a midfielder for Arsenal. His lack of mobility and his tempo was hinderance to the side when he was playing in midfield last season.

Califori is a waste of money and the way I see it, he doesn’t have his head in the right place. But I hope he proves me wrong.

For this to be a 10/10 window, Arsenal need to sign both Eze and Rodrygo otherwise I’m worried about the quality of half of the front 4 starting in the side.
 
You can disagree with other Arsenal fans without ganging up with trolls from other clubs. With the greatest of respect, it’s not a good look.

I would say the same if other Arsenal fans on here did the same thing to you.

There is no ganging up here. Everyone was calling out the same thing where a certain poster feels the need to make things up.

Whether i agree or disagree on someone's opinion is base's on what they are saying, rather then the team they support.

With the non Arsenal supporters in the thread some of what they day I disagree with, some I agree with. Some of its banter which is fine. Having them in the thread is fine as well. Makes for better discussion to have different fans views.

Reality is Arsenal lack of success over last 5 years, we ain't really in a position to be bantering united, Newcastle etc.. a lot of discussion comes about ambition, competing, expectation etc.. end of day it always comes down to have you something or haven't you. Better to focus on Arsenal and actual call the club out to improve its accountability and standards. Instead there are just excuses from a lot of the fan base and then mocking other clubs as a make urself feel better remedy.

Il leave it that and draw a line under it.
 
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I do think Zubimendi might turn out to be an upgrade on Partey. He may not be a match when it comes to physicality but I think his technical ability, mentality and composure will make him a superior replacement.

Merino has been disappointing. The fact that he’s done better in his makeshift role as CF shows that he’s not a good enough to be playing at this level as a midfielder for Arsenal. His lack of mobility and his tempo was hinderance to the side when he was playing in midfield last season.

Califori is a waste of money and the way I see it, he doesn’t have his head in the right place. But I hope he proves me wrong.

For this to be a 10/10 window, Arsenal need to sign both Eze and Rodrygo otherwise I’m worried about the quality of half of the front 4 starting in the side.
Once he settles zubemendi will be a good player, but he's got no luxury of having a slow start he's got to play well from game 1. Right now, because he's not played in PL we essentially have 1 reliable midfielder in Rice. The rest are either underwhelming or decent player (norgaard who will see if he settles in at a bigger club). Last 2 seasons slow starts has been because of midfield balance and performances. It will only take a usual run of 3 or 4 games and mo wins at sumpoint in 1st half of a season and we're playing catch up again.

Arsenal should have ruthless been out offering trossard, Martinelli, havertz amd merino to other clubs to see who wanted them. They should have also not wasted money on madueke. Some bigger names should have been told they were being moved on, simple as that. Even if they have only been here 1 or 2 years, if they ain't good enough move them on..but they stupid wages these guys are on makes it hard for them to be sold. Plus those players will be happy just picking up high wages here as a bit part.

We still need 2 or 3 level raising attackers. Those won't come unless some players are booted out the door.

Liverpool were looking to sell jota, nunez, chiesa this summer. Looks like Diaz will be allowed to go. They will be ruthless in getting rid of weak links like chiesa, nunez. We need same attitude as well
 
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Once he settles zubemendi will be a good player, but he's got no luxury of having a slow start he's got to play well from game 1. Right now, because he's not played in PL we essentially have 1 reliable midfielder in Rice. The rest are either underwhelming or decent player (norgaard who will see if he settles in at a bigger club). Last 2 seasons slow starts has been because of midfield balance and performances. It will only take a usual run of 3 or 4 games and mo wins at sumpoint in 1st half of a season and we're playing catch up again.

Arsenal should have ruthless been out offering trossard, Martinelli, havertz amd merino to other clubs to see who wanted them. They should have also not wasted money on madueke. Some bigger names should have been told they were being moved on, simple as that. Even if they have only been here 1 or 2 years, if they ain't good enough move them on..but they stupid wages these guys are on makes it hard for them to be sold. Plus those players will be happy just picking up high wages here as a bit part.

We still need 2 or 3 level raising attackers. Those won't come unless some players are booted out the door.

Liverpool were looking to sell jota, nunez, chiesa this summer. Looks like Diaz will be allowed to go. They will be ruthless in getting rid of weak links like chiesa, nunez. We need same attitude as well

I agree with all of this. We can thank Edu for putting the likes of Zinchenko, Jesus, Havertz, Calafiori and etc on obscene wages when you consider the calibre of players they really are.

It’s a reflection of the ambition of the club and if we put ourselves in Saliba’s shoes just for a second. It would be hard to blame him for wanting to leave Arsenal next summer, should they fall short of winning the PL/CL.
 
You can disagree with other Arsenal fans without ganging up with trolls from other clubs. With the greatest of respect, it’s not a good look.

I would say the same if other Arsenal fans on here did the same thing to you.
Nobody takes a someone batting or passing for the opposition team seriously .
 
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There is no evidence of what you claimed but there is of you ending your belief in your team and manager by October. You were first Arsenal fan on earth to admit defeat , even tho you were right , try to pretend :wenger
If you can’t find any evidence of Amjid hoping to see Arsenal lose under Arteta, you must pay a visit to Specsavers.

He hides when Arsenal lose or offers fake praises with gritted teeth only when he is cornered. When Arsenal lose, he is the first to jump around.
 
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I agree with all of this. We can thank Edu for putting the likes of Zinchenko, Jesus, Havertz, Calafiori and etc on obscene wages when you consider the calibre of players they really are.

It’s a reflection of the ambition of the club and if we put ourselves in Saliba’s shoes just for a second. It would be hard to blame him for wanting to leave Arsenal next summer, should they fall short of winning the PL/CL.
If you look Arsenal wage bill vs other top sides, Arsenal overpay the vast majority of players, where as other clubs a starting wage and then bonuses on top.

Zinchenko is on 150K

Alisson at Liverpool is on 150K, but can go up to 180K based on performance and what they win.

Chelsea have a similar thing in place now.

It means players have to perform if they want to earn more.

Whereas our players know they are getting paid well and don't matter if they perform, plus zero accountability if they don't. Which is why as a team we always keep falling short. Also why if a signing doesn't work, we can't just bin them off because of high wages.

Don't get me wrong every clubs wage bill has some players who are overpaid and a mistake. But not to the level we have

Calafori went from 12k to 120k
Merino 50K to 130K

These are back up players, who ever collectively made this decision are reason clubs so poorly run.

Also why the club has less money to buy loads of top class players. Also why Arsenal were haggling over a few million over Gyokeres and transfer took so long, because of poor financial management on resources.
 
He is on par with Haaland as a finisher and unlike him, he doesn’t look like a third division footballer when he is out of the box.

He will win the golden boot this season.

This is very true. Outside of scoring goals, Haaland has looked like a League One player during his time in the PL. The Man Utd fans I've spoke to are upset about him rejecting their club and are desperate to see him fail next season, so I certainly wouldn't give too much energy into what they make of him as a player.
 
If you look Arsenal wage bill vs other top sides, Arsenal overpay the vast majority of players, where as other clubs a starting wage and then bonuses on top.

Zinchenko is on 150K

Alisson at Liverpool is on 150K, but can go up to 180K based on performance and what they win.

Chelsea have a similar thing in place now.

It means players have to perform if they want to earn more.

Whereas our players know they are getting paid well and don't matter if they perform, plus zero accountability if they don't. Which is why as a team we always keep falling short. Also why if a signing doesn't work, we can't just bin them off because of high wages.

Don't get me wrong every clubs wage bill has some players who are overpaid and a mistake. But not to the level we have

Calafori went from 12k to 120k
Merino 50K to 130K

These are back up players, who ever collectively made this decision are reason clubs so poorly run.

Obscene wages for bang average players.

No wonder why we can’t get rid of Zinchenko.

I think Havertz is on £250k+ p.w. which is also ridiculous for someone who is more of a utility player.

Also why the club has less money to buy loads of top class players. Also why Arsenal were haggling over a few million over Gyokeres and transfer took so long, because of poor financial management on resources.

Berta was doing the right thing because Gyokeres only wanted to join Arsenal and that sporting president is a c*nt.

Arsenal have had a to wait a little longer but they’ve managed to sign him for a very reasonable fee.

Makes you wonder why Arsenal paid in excess of £50m for Madueke though.
 
According to reports, Arsenal ramping up their pursuit for Eze and are hoping to pay £60m to seal his signing.

Looks like Reiss Nelson is on his way to joint Fulham. If we’re paying £50m for Madueke then there’s no reason why we can’t get £20m from him as well.

According to Fabrizio, Arsenal have rejected Rodrygo’s wage demands. I suspect he’s looking for £300k p.w.
 
According to reports, Arsenal ramping up their pursuit for Eze and are hoping to pay £60m to seal his signing.

Looks like Reiss Nelson is on his way to joint Fulham. If we’re paying £50m for Madueke then there’s no reason why we can’t get £20m from him as well.

According to Fabrizio, Arsenal have rejected Rodrygo’s wage demands. I suspect he’s looking for £300k p.w.
Jesus is on his way out of as well.
 
He is on par with Haaland as a finisher and unlike him, he doesn’t look like a third division footballer when he is out of the box.

He will win the golden boot this season.

Haaland in a Pep system has specifically been told to play the way he is.

Haaland at Dortmund was the complete package.

That tells me he's not a one Trick Pony.
 
Jesus is on his way out of as well.

Looks like Arsenal CF options will be:

Gyokeres
Havertz
Merino
Trossard

Leaves us a little bit thin for my liking but understandable considering Jesus will be desperate to play in the World Cup and Arsenal need to reduce their wage bill.
 
Looks like Arsenal CF options will be:

Gyokeres
Havertz
Merino
Trossard

Leaves us a little bit thin for my liking but understandable considering Jesus will be desperate to play in the World Cup and Arsenal need to reduce their wage bill.

Would’ve made sense for us to have signed Delap as well.
 
Get Eze and we are primed. Liverpool will still be favourites with or without Isak but I expect us to mount a serious challenge if not win it if we get Eze to.

Should be an exciting season. Artetas chance for legacy or it'll be on your bike.
 
Would’ve made sense for us to have signed Delap as well.
Delap has potential but I'm not sure what the hype around him is. Time will tell but he just looked like a bullish type player. Ricky Lambert or James Beatie type.

Delap doesn't improve us to be honest however if you asked me Delap or Madueke I would agree and say Delap.
 
Delap has potential but I'm not sure what the hype around him is. Time will tell but he just looked like a bullish type player. Ricky Lambert or James Beatie type.

Delap doesn't improve us to be honest however if you asked me Delap or Madueke I would agree and say Delap.

I think Delap would've been good as our first choice back-up CF. I might end up being wrong but I genuinely think he has a similar ceiling to Harry Kane.

He's got all the ingredients to become a successful striker at the very top level. 12 PL goals for a terrible Ipswich side is no joke.
 
Looks like Arsenal CF options will be:

Gyokeres
Havertz
Merino
Trossard

Leaves us a little bit thin for my liking but understandable considering Jesus will be desperate to play in the World Cup and Arsenal need to reduce their wage bill.
Trossard could be on his way out as well. If Arsenal sign Eze which they most probably will, there is a possibility that Martinelli could also be utilized as a backup striker.

ST: Gyokeres, Havertz, Martinelli
LW: Eze, Martinelli, Madueke
RW: Saka, Madueke, Nwaneri

That is a lot of quality and depth, but I do hope Trossard stays. He is a wonderful squad player.
 

Viktor Gyokeres says he decided to sign for Arsenal after the Gunners thrashed his Sporting side 5-1 in the Champions League last season.


The 27-year-old Sweden striker has joined Arsenal for 73m euros (£64m) on a five-year contract.

The move was held up because of negotiations between the clubs over add-on payments, with the final sum made up of a 63m euro transfer fee plus 10m euros in add-ons.

Gyokeres was in the Sporting side dismantled by Mikel Arteta's team in the group stage of Europe's top competition in November.

"I just felt it was the right club for me," said Gyokeres. "What I heard from Mikel and [sporting director] Andrea Berta and just what I've seen in the past years, how they've been playing football.

"When I played against Arsenal last season, I could really feel it was a very strong team and very difficult to play against.

"That made me choose Arsenal, and of course all the history the club has and the massive fan base."

The move takes Arsenal's summer spending up to about £204m, following the arrivals of Martin Zubimendi, Kepa Arrizabalaga, Christian Norgaard, Noni Madueke and Cristhian Mosquera

"Viktor has so many qualities. He is a quick and powerful presence up front, with incredible goalscoring numbers at club and international levels," said Gunners boss Arteta.

"He brings a clinical edge with a high conversion rate of chances into goals, with his intelligent movement in the box making him a constant threat.

"We're excited about what Viktor brings to our squad and are looking forward to starting working with him."

BBC Sport revealed at the start of the month how Arteta's side had turned their attentions to Gyokeres after hitting an impasse in their bid to sign Benjamin Sesko from RB Leipzig.

Gunners sporting director Andrea Berta flew to Lisbon to lead negotiations with the Portuguese club.

The deal concludes the long-running saga over Gyokeres' future, after he was linked with Manchester United earlier this summer.

Gyokeres failed to report back at Sporting for pre-season earlier this month, and the club's president Frederico Varandas said the player would face disciplinary action.

Source: BBC sports
 
Trossard could be on his way out as well. If Arsenal sign Eze which they most probably will, there is a possibility that Martinelli could also be utilized as a backup striker.

ST: Gyokeres, Havertz, Martinelli
LW: Eze, Martinelli, Madueke
RW: Saka, Madueke, Nwaneri

That is a lot of quality and depth, but I do hope Trossard stays. He is a wonderful squad player.

Martinelli as a backup CF is worrying! He doesn't have the composure or the IQ to succeed in this role. I would rather have Merino as our 3rd choice CF.
 
Get Eze and we are primed. Liverpool will still be favourites with or without Isak but I expect us to mount a serious challenge if not win it if we get Eze to.

Should be an exciting season. Artetas chance for legacy or it'll be on your bike.
Zero excuses if season is a failure again. Most managers done get 6 years at a big club with this much failure.

Whether Liverpool or City are favourites
, its bout time he earnt the 15M a year wages that he's output hasn't deserved.
 
Looks like Arsenal CF options will be:

Gyokeres
Havertz
Merino
Trossard

Leaves us a little bit thin for my liking but understandable considering Jesus will be desperate to play in the World Cup and Arsenal need to reduce their wage bill.
That's very thin, also this is a team 6 years into a so called process thar should be competitive on all 4 fronts, winning trophies. 2 of those mentioned are failed midfield signings
 
According to reports, Arsenal ramping up their pursuit for Eze and are hoping to pay £60m to seal his signing.

Looks like Reiss Nelson is on his way to joint Fulham. If we’re paying £50m for Madueke then there’s no reason why we can’t get £20m from him as well.

According to Fabrizio, Arsenal have rejected Rodrygo’s wage demands. I suspect he’s looking for £300k p.w.
Rodrygo is on 210K at Madrid, so 300K demand isn't thar bad, when you consider what he's on, plus he's a massive upgrade to what we have.

With eze isn't now saying we need to sell to buy, which just emphasis how pointless madueke signing is. Arsenal don't have luxury of wasting money like this. Like they have in other windows. Eze should have been brought in 1st.

Also all the unwanted players need to be moved on by end of window
 
Makes you wonder why Arsenal paid in excess of £50m for Madueke though.

The constant over paying of Chelsea leftovers, is an indication there is something dodgy going on between 2 clubs in the back ground
 
Califori with another "tweak". And someone on here thinks he's going to eventually replace Gabriel who has signed a new contract.

Seems like he has replaced Tomiyasu as the team crock.

Hard to replace someone if you can't even string 3-4 games together without hurting a finger nail
 
Max Dowman is unreal. Proved to be the difference between the 2 sides when the game was heading for a draw.
 
Califori with another "tweak". And someone on here thinks he's going to eventually replace Gabriel who has signed a new contract.

Seems like he has replaced Tomiyasu as the team crock.

Hard to replace someone if you can't even string 3-4 games together without hurting a finger nail

Bologna have ripped us off with both him and Tomiyasu.

His signing (for 40m) is turning out to be a blunder.
 
The constant over paying of Chelsea leftovers, is an indication there is something dodgy going on between 2 clubs in the back ground

I’m not one for conspiracy theories but I completely agree.

I was talking about this with a friend of mine, who is a Chelsea fan. Even he reckons there’s something going on between the two American owners which we don’t know about.

Arsenal have basically paid double for two declining assets when Chelsea, that too at a time when they could potentially end up in hot water for their spending. It makes no sense to feed rival club like they have.

What also raises eyebrows is how quickly they were able to sign Madueke in comparison to the length of time it has take to get Gyokeres (and potentially Eze) over the line.
 
I’m not one for conspiracy theories but I completely agree.

I was talking about this with a friend of mine, who is a Chelsea fan. Even he reckons there’s something going on between the two American owners which we don’t know about.

Arsenal have basically paid double for two declining assets when Chelsea, that too at a time when they could potentially end up in hot water for their spending. It makes no sense to feed rival club like they have.

What also raises eyebrows is how quickly they were able to sign Madueke in comparison to the length of time it has take to get Gyokeres (and potentially Eze) over the line.

Let’s also not forget, Havertz was originally signed as a Xhaka replacement in central midfield even though he always played as a number 9, false 9, number 10 etc for Chelsea.

He never was bought to play a CF.
 
That's very thin, also this is a team 6 years into a so called process thar should be competitive on all 4 fronts, winning trophies. 2 of those mentioned are failed midfield signings

Which is why I think instead of signing Madueke, they should have signed Delap instead. £30m for him in my eyes is a no brainer.

With Nwaneri and Dowman, we already had sufficient cover for both Odegaard and Saka.
 
Calafori injured again, I'm sure that someone in the Arsenal in the Arsenal 24/25 at start of last season was warning everyone this would happen

Even worse is putting this guy on 120K after he was on 12k a week at bologna

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Which is why I think instead of signing Madueke, they should have signed Delap instead. £30m for him in my eyes is a no brainer.

With Nwaneri and Dowman, we already had sufficient cover for both Odegaard and Saka.
There was no need for madueke signing when we have ethan and dowman. 100% Agree these 2 should be playing more regularly. Both these players should be playing all cup games this season atleast as a minimum

The fact we one get transfers done quickly, and over pay when it comes to Chelsea is 100% shady.
 
Bologna have ripped us off with both him and Tomiyasu.

His signing (for 40m) is turning out to be a blunder.
People got carried away because he had 2 good games at the Euros, probably never watched bologna play. Supposedly the new Maldini lol, more like Italian Zinchenko
 
I gave him the benefit of doubt and I'm not ashamed to say I was wrong to.

There's never any gaurantee in football hence there is always hope.
I know bro. I wasn't calling you out on it. I was just wary of the serious injury he had then the connecting injuries afterwards. Plus how Arsenal train. So him struggling for fitness in PL isn't a shock.

At least LMS took his chance to step up and make LB spot his, while calafori was out
 
Califori was a great purchase..

You only have to look at him and you can see the immediate benefits he brings to the squad; in the dressing room; in the showers and in the baths..
Kept Partey in check for an entire season didn't he?
 
Liverpool have just sold Diaz for £65m. He wasn't on big money during his time at Anfield. This is a good case in point on why you don't overpay mid tier signings (at best) for the likes of Zinchenko, Jesus, Havertz, Calafiori and Merino. Edu was a fraud.

So far Liverpool have made £130m in player sales this window and have managed to recoup the Wirtz fee. Their net spend is around £130m.

Diaz £65m
Quansah £35
Kelleher £18m
Trent £10
Phillips £2m

I expect them to make another £100m from the sales of Nunez, Chiesa, Elliott and Doak.
 
Liverpool have just sold Diaz for £65m. He wasn't on big money during his time at Anfield. This is a good case in point on why you don't overpay mid tier signings (at best) for the likes of Zinchenko, Jesus, Havertz, Calafiori and Merino. Edu was a fraud.

So far Liverpool have made £130m in player sales this window and have managed to recoup the Wirtz fee. Their net spend is around £130m.

Diaz £65m
Quansah £35
Kelleher £18m
Trent £10
Phillips £2m

I expect them to make another £100m from the sales of Nunez, Chiesa, Elliott and Doak.
As much as I hate Liverpool, they are a very well club interms of finances.

Diaz was on 55K a week, so that's helped him being moved on for a good fee

Chiesa is on 150K, but that's the Same wage he was on at juve. So again should be no issue selling him back to Italy

Nunez 140K, is maybe the one where Liverpool will need to be maybe take a slight hit on a fee when selling.

Liverpool earnt 400M from winning PL and CL run. So with all the sells they have money to throw around and could get isak and gheui.

Getting isak, ekitike and wirtz means they essentially have upgrade their entire forward line.

Whilst we have wasted 50M on madeuke, supposedly said no Rodrygo wage demands, also can't get eze unless players are now sold.

Just goes to show difference when you run your resources well, you can then help urselfs in situations like this.

The fact Arsenal highest two players at club are useless donkeys in Jesus and havertz. People make excuses for both. These same people will have been ones who were complaining about when Auba, ozil were on high wages.

If berta managers to longterm fix the wage bill. The one supposedly Arteta / edu fixed (which is a load of bullcrap) when they took over. The fair play to Berta for doing his job atleast.
 
Liverpool have just sold Diaz for £65m. He wasn't on big money during his time at Anfield. This is a good case in point on why you don't overpay mid tier signings (at best) for the likes of Zinchenko, Jesus, Havertz, Calafiori and Merino. Edu was a fraud.

So far Liverpool have made £130m in player sales this window and have managed to recoup the Wirtz fee. Their net spend is around £130m.

Diaz £65m
Quansah £35
Kelleher £18m
Trent £10
Phillips £2m

I expect them to make another £100m from the sales of Nunez, Chiesa, Elliott and Doak.
Can't just blame Edu here, the 5 players you named were all personal choices of the manager. In the case of the last 3, its one of reasons Edu left. Managers asked for the players. The players have then asked for high wages. Which would need approval from manager, DOF and clubs chief executive before sign off.

There's no way Edu alone has gone, oh I know il sign a Chelsea rejected and put him on highest wages at club.

The fact the club's making a big issue about not over paying on wages because they don't want to so called disrupt the dressing room. Is an indicator that collectively they know they have ballsed it up.

Every party is to blame is here. Not just 1 guy.

If Berta wasn't here now. We would have signed sesko. The manager needs to focus on failed job and actually earning his 15m a year wage, which he wouldn't get anywhere else. He should stop personally asking for Chelsea rejects like Arsenal is some sort of rehab centre for dogs or donkeys.
 
Watched a lot of the game today, just want to say Max Dowman was impressive, he was not playing like a 15 year old. He didn't look out of place which is scary considering how young he is

Obviously he has a long way to go but based on that showing he can go to the very top
 
Martinelli as a backup CF is worrying! He doesn't have the composure or the IQ to succeed in this role. I would rather have Merino as our 3rd choice CF.
I would immediately sell Martinelli if I could but he is not going anywhere. If he is staying than you have to utilize him has a backup LW and ST.
 
Watched a lot of the game today, just want to say Max Dowman was impressive, he was not playing like a 15 year old. He didn't look out of place which is scary considering how young he is

Obviously he has a long way to go but based on that showing he can go to the very top
Didn't stop Joelinton using his usual hard tactics on a 15 year old kid during a pre season friendly.

Tbf he did seem to be nice to him at the end.

I suppose if Max is going to play with the big boys he'll have to expect it. Although Joelinton is probably as rough as it will get.
 
Didn't stop Joelinton using his usual hard tactics on a 15 year old kid during a pre season friendly.

Tbf he did seem to be nice to him at the end.

I suppose if Max is going to play with the big boys he'll have to expect it. Although Joelinton is probably as rough as it will get.

As AJ would say, Newcastle Rugby Club :ROFLMAO:
 
Didn't stop Joelinton using his usual hard tactics on a 15 year old kid during a pre season friendly.

Tbf he did seem to be nice to him at the end.

I suppose if Max is going to play with the big boys he'll have to expect it. Although Joelinton is probably as rough as it will get.

If you are old enough to play with the big boys then be prepared to get into it

Joelinton is very physical and I like the fact he maintains that approach against every opponent, if the kid isn't ready then that's his own managers responsibility

However, I think he is more than ready to play at this level but he is young so his minutes need to be managed carefully
 
I'm old enough to remember pre Wenger and early Wenger era

Newcastle Rugby Club are like little children compared to that Arsenal Rugby Club and their thuggery 👀

I started watching football in 2000, so you have to tell me more :ROFLMAO:

But I guess this is going back to when George Graham was Arsenal's manager?
 
I started watching football in 2000, so you have to tell me more :ROFLMAO:

But I guess this is going back to when George Graham was Arsenal's manager?

Indeed but there was a carry over into early Arsene Wenger too, as he inherited that defence

Dixon, Adams, Keown, Bould, Winterburn whilst absolutely brilliant as a unit they were also extremely dirty.

I remember a league cup game where Dixon spent most of the game kicking Ginola and getting away with it, eventually Ginola reacted and got sent off for it

With Wenger the football played was undoubtedly a joy to watch but they were still a very physical side with players having a nasty edge like Vieira, Petit, Gilbert Silva etc
 
I'm old enough to remember pre Wenger and early Wenger era

Newcastle Rugby Club are like little children compared to that Arsenal Rugby Club and their thuggery 👀
Not sure where they thuggery came from? 🤔😉

You were allowed to tackle and be physical in the 1990s, sort of tackles you use to see from Arsenal players or any other team were within the rules. Nowadays you can't be even half as physical. But yeah Arsenal did have a physical imposing team with players with good mental attitude. Something the current team is severely lacking in.

Even man united resorted to thuggery in games vs Arsenal. That's what made it a proper rivalry.

Football would be better now if you could use same physicality.
 
I remember a league cup game where Dixon spent most of the game kicking Ginola and getting away with it, eventually Ginola reacted and got sent off for it

I remember Newcastle coming to Highbury for that game and we're favourites to win the tie. But Ian Wright scored twice. Ginola and Dixon were giving it to each other in the game, Ginola had a nasty side to him aswell.
 
Calafiori is incredibly talented. He looks a different class whenever he plays, especially because of his ability on the ball. He is not quick enough to be a LB or LWB in today’s football, but he the talent to be a top 3 ball-playing LCB in the world.

His injury record is a concern, and those who are saying that Arsenal didn’t consider that when signing him are wrong. They did, but sometimes, you have to a take a risk especially when the player has such a high ceiling and is only 22-23.

If Arsenal had backed off, he could have gone to one of the Milan clubs or Juventus and had a stellar career and then Arsenal would have regretted passing the opportunity to sign him.

If he stays fit, he will replace Gabriel within 2 seasons. Gabriel will eventually move to Saudi. Brazilians love their money and he had his head turned in 2023 as well before Edu convinced him to stay.

Calafiori’s defending is a little circumspect at this point and he can be too aggressive but that’s normal for young defenders. Gabriel himself was very error prone early on before Arteta and his coaching staff sedated his bozo gene. They could do the same with Calafiori if he stays fit.

If he doesn’t, that is a shame, but you can always sell him back to an Italian club. Not every signing will work, and that is okay. You have to take risks at times.
 
Raya concedes 1-2 such goals every season. He is a quality GK but he can get carried away at times.
 
Pre season results never really matter, I mentioned this after Arsenal beat AC milan.

What you want to see is the team build up fitness. Work on formations, build up play etc.. so ready for season.

The 1st half highlighted how poor Arsenal creative options are in midfield casper the ghost, norgaard and rice playing ball around slow and ponderous with no direction. It's only when zubemendi came on that ball got moved with purpose. Hopefully he will settle into the PL quickly. Max Dowman showing purpose and drive with the ball.

The defence im sure will go back to being solid, but in 1st half it was woeful spurs could easily have got 3 or 4 with chances they wasted.

"Bulked up" havertz still with a 1st touch of a trampoline, woeful lame finishing as well with 2 chances he had

Arsenal seriously need to improve their midfield play. Because as I mentioned before once you get past a starting midfield it'd going to get exposed again next season.

Cudnt care less bout the result, the toothless ponderous style of play was a bigger concern
 
If Arsenal and Berta have any sense then offer clubs in PL and are Europe Odegaard and see what price they can get. Go buy a proper number 10 or playmaker. Or even offer Palace a swap deal for Eze.

Casper the ghost needs to go
 
So zubemendi has been brought in as a deep lying ball playing midfielder, who is their to dictate play. Which in theory In fine. He's got a good range of passing and can move the ball quickly.

Yes he needs to adjust to the PL, will have to be careful with the way he plays not to lose the ball in dangerous positions otherwise Arsenal will end up being opened up on counter attack.

When zubemendi does progress the ball forward he needs those infront of him to do the Same. Rice whilst being having a lot of good attributes isn't the best progressive passer, casper the ghost every time he gets the ball just spins around and plays it side ways. The lack of fluidity which Arsenal have centrally and the lack of creativity is going to mean the Gyokeres is going to end up feeding on scraps at times this season. Arsenal need a progressive number 10 similar progressive left 8.

Rice will do well in the 8 and score goals. But Zubimendi having to feel the ball into Odegaard, Merino, havertz as midfield options really is going to expose Arsenal lack of quality in attacking midfield

6 players in, 4 back ups and 2 first team starters and the left side, number 10 and now supposedly back up striker in havertz look utter crap.

Arsenal shouldn't have pissed away 50M on madueke, as players like eze, Rodrygo etc.. are needed in this team right now.

Even play max dowman, gunnersaurus, or the person that walks win the dog ahead of some of the pathetic attacking options we have right now
 
So zubemendi has been brought in as a deep lying ball playing midfielder, who is their to dictate play. Which in theory In fine. He's got a good range of passing and can move the ball quickly.

Yes he needs to adjust to the PL, will have to be careful with the way he plays not to lose the ball in dangerous positions otherwise Arsenal will end up being opened up on counter attack.

When zubemendi does progress the ball forward he needs those infront of him to do the Same. Rice whilst being having a lot of good attributes isn't the best progressive passer, casper the ghost every time he gets the ball just spins around and plays it side ways. The lack of fluidity which Arsenal have centrally and the lack of creativity is going to mean the Gyokeres is going to end up feeding on scraps at times this season. Arsenal need a progressive number 10 similar progressive left 8.

Rice will do well in the 8 and score goals. But Zubimendi having to feel the ball into Odegaard, Merino, havertz as midfield options really is going to expose Arsenal lack of quality in attacking midfield

6 players in, 4 back ups and 2 first team starters and the left side, number 10 and now supposedly back up striker in havertz look utter crap.

Arsenal shouldn't have pissed away 50M on madueke, as players like eze, Rodrygo etc.. are needed in this team right now.

Even play max dowman, gunnersaurus, or the person that walks win the dog ahead of some of the pathetic attacking options we have right now

Pre season Friendlies are hard to judge. Won't read to much in to the result. You Gooners will be ready once the season starts.
 
Pre season Friendlies are hard to judge. Won't read to much in to the result. You Gooners will be ready once the season starts.
As I mentioned after the AC milan game and today's game, the score is irrelevant. I cudnt care less about what score was.

The lack of fluidity and creativity in Arsenal midfield was exposed last season. The team depended on set pieces and getting ball out wide. Today's performance was exactly same as most games last season.

You cant bring a deep lying ball playing midfielder and a top striker, then in between that have players who can't progress the ball purposefully in-between the two. The likes of Odegaard, Merino, havertz, norgaard are simply not good enough.

Look for example how fluid Barca midfield or even PSG, who both use similar deep lying ball playing midfielder to start attacks off and what they have infront of them.

The likes of norgaard, Odegaard, Merino, havertz are safely 1st in their ball play. It simply going to get exposed.

Arsenal have not addressed the lack of creativity centrally in this team. Unless sudden we are going to start with Nwaneri or max dowman as a number 10 or advanced number 8, then Arsenal need to go and upgrade both Odegaard position and out wide on left.

Like I said earlier if I was Berta I'd be looking to sell Odegaard, havertz, Merino, Martinelli, trossard and get better players in
 
Crying is in Arsenal fans’ blood. I have never seen so much analysis and dissection of a pre-season friendly before. The most disgusting fanbase in the world.
 
This is the best window for Arsenal in living memory and we are still looking at the negatives. Incredible.

This is the best Arsenal squad since 04-05 and it’s a fact.
 
Best transfer window in living memory 🤣🤣. Seems the fireworks are out early

But but it's best transfer window in history

But but it's best Arsenal squad since 04/05

But but it's world class depth everywhere

But but havertz has bulked up, I'm all excited every morning

🤡🤡

The usual towel throwing and excuses will come as usual..

The fact the club's mascot can't comprehend that I said in clear English "results in pre season don't matter"

But as usual that translate into making thing up again like a retard 🤦‍♂️

Delusion at its finest
 
Best transfer window in living memory 🤣🤣. Seems the fireworks are out early

But but it's best transfer window in history

But but it's best Arsenal squad since 04/05

But but it's world class depth everywhere

But but havertz has bulked up, I'm all excited every morning

🤡🤡

The usual towel throwing and excuses will come as usual..

The fact the club's mascot can't comprehend that I said in clear English "results in pre season don't matter"

But as usual that translate into making thing up again like a retard 🤦‍♂️

Delusion at its finest
But who told you that your opinion matters? No one takes your agenda seriously. I’m talking about the Arsenal fans moaning about this result on social media.

I haven’t seen this much post match analysis after a UCL final.
 
Only Agenda here is your usual delusional nonsense that you come up. No actually cares about these results in preseason. What fans want to see is the team and manager trying out different tactics and ways of playing, essentially to improve on last few seasons failings. You can pull your pants down all you want and light fireworks and run around all you want pretending this is greatest thing ever.

Even after 6 signings, you can add another 3 or 4. Reality is Arsenal are still playing in same way, inverted full backs, Rice moving out to the left side. Odegaard slowing play down. Get ball out to just saka if you think that adding Zubimendi and Gyokeres alone is going to magically fix things with this same predictable, slow ponderous style of play it isn't. Unless Arsenal change their way of playing they ain't winning FK all.

If you actually bothered to listen to all fans on social media that's the point they are making.

But instead you will continue with your blind Arteta twerking Agenda.

We all know at end of it you will have more excuses and run off as usual.

There has been zero improvements shown tactically or through signings to made so far that Arsenal are going improve their creativity in midfield. Which was Arsenal biggest problem last season.

But supposedly Arsenal now have world class midfield depth 🤣 because you have listed 5 or 6 players. Other than Zubimendi none have high quality progressive passing game which Is going to be needed to get the best out of Gyokeres
 
Only Agenda here is your usual delusional nonsense that you come up. No actually cares about these results in preseason. What fans want to see is the team and manager trying out different tactics and ways of playing, essentially to improve on last few seasons failings. You can pull your pants down all you want and light fireworks and run around all you want pretending this is greatest thing ever.

Even after 6 signings, you can add another 3 or 4. Reality is Arsenal are still playing in same way, inverted full backs, Rice moving out to the left side. Odegaard slowing play down. Get ball out to just saka if you think that adding Zubimendi and Gyokeres alone is going to magically fix things with this same predictable, slow ponderous style of play it isn't. Unless Arsenal change their way of playing they ain't winning FK all.

If you actually bothered to listen to all fans on social media that's the point they are making.

But instead you will continue with your blind Arteta twerking Agenda.

We all know at end of it you will have more excuses and run off as usual.

There has been zero improvements shown tactically or through signings to made so far that Arsenal are going improve their creativity in midfield. Which was Arsenal biggest problem last season.

But supposedly Arsenal now have world class midfield depth 🤣 because you have listed 5 or 6 players. Other than Zubimendi none have high quality progressive passing game which Is going to be needed to get the best out of Gyokeres

I do agree with your points. Not sure if fans understand in game tactics and philosophy. What's been glaringly obvious previously for you Gooners is the ability of your midfielders to find space in the pockets. This is where a Wirtz type of Midfielder would have been perfect for you guys.
 
In an ideal world, sell Odegaard for good money and buy Eze as a direct replacement and buy Rodrygo.

A front 4 of Eze, Rodrygo, Gyokeres and Saka is what is required to win us the league.

The weak links are Martinelli and Odegaard. The former lacks IQ and the latter is mentally not built for it, so I have no idea why on Earth he's still captain of the side. Unfortunately, a lack of footballing IQ and being weak minded are not problems that can be fixed.
 
In an ideal world, sell Odegaard for good money and buy Eze as a direct replacement and buy Rodrygo.

A front 4 of Eze, Rodrygo, Gyokeres and Saka is what is required to win us the league.

The weak links are Martinelli and Odegaard. The former lacks IQ and the latter is mentally not built for it, so I have no idea why on Earth he's still captain of the side. Unfortunately, a lack of footballing IQ and being weak minded are not problems that can be fixed.
Odegaard is still captain as he's the managers personalised hand puppet so he can relay the managers messages on the pitch. This team is over coached and the manager wants everything choreographed on the pitch, it's predictable dull and boring. Unless Arsenal start being brave enough to win games, rather playing not to lose, then we ain't winning.

All 3 pre season games so have highlight the midfield issues. Odegaard / norgaard and rice will play as a midfield 3 in some games this season. Injuries and suspensions will happen. The fact of reality is merino, Odegaard and havertz are not good enough. Norgaard is a safety 1st player.

So basically Arsenal in most games will have to score 1st, shut up shop and look to nick a second goal. Any games where we conceded 1st and low blocks are set up, your going to see the lack of creativity exposed.

Arsenal don't have an explosive front 3, where they can get away with a functional + non functional midfield.

Yet this is supposedly Arsenal greatest transfer window in history because we have signed 4 back up players and have world class depth 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

The entire left side of team is dead and non functional as well. The manager simply can't change way of playing. 15M a year for this robotic boring football that doesn't win anything
 
I do agree with your points. Not sure if fans understand in game tactics and philosophy. What's been glaringly obvious previously for you Gooners is the ability of your midfielders to find space in the pockets. This is where a Wirtz type of Midfielder would have been perfect for you guys.
Exactly my point, Arsenal need to move the ball quickly to open up space, espcially when you have signed a striker that needs space in behind and players on shoulder of last defender. The slow ponderous side ways passing or passing out wide, or usual get the ball spin around, pass it backwards.

You look at Arsenal midfield and Zubimendi is the only progressive passer.

Other than the 2 kids Dowman and Nwaneri their is no creativity in midfield

But don't worry Arsenal have world class depth, best TF window ever and rest PL and Europe are shitting their pants at how scary Arsenal are.

It's like watching Stoke with a top class striker and expecting miracles
 
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