Arsenal FC | 2025/26 Season

[KingKhanWC]

Attacking style of play is not just limited to the attackers. In General it's the philosophy instilled in the side.

An attacking philosophy is moving the ball quicker. Midfield again moving the ball quicker, having craft in tight spaces, be able to break the lines.

Its no point having Saka Eze Madueke Gyokeres with attack minded instincts when the CM is static. Modern day Football, both the 8 and 10 have to be crafty with the ball and have real footballing IQ, specially in tight spaces.

I totally agree. Its upto the manger to change his philosophy of play but Arsenal have recruited multiple no.6s but no no.10, Odegaard is not up to standard. They just dont have the players for what you are stating.

However they are very fortunate to have Saka and Eze who can take on defenders, go past them and deliver top quality passes into the box. They were both out v LFC but when both in the same XI, in form will cause plenty of issues for the opposition. Although whether they both will stay fit together for enough games to go on a long winning streak is to be seen.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

I totally agree. Its upto the manger to change his philosophy of play but Arsenal have recruited multiple no.6s but no no.10, Odegaard is not up to standard. They just dont have the players for what you are stating.

However they are very fortunate to have Saka and Eze who can take on defenders, go past them and deliver top quality passes into the box. They were both out v LFC but when both in the same XI, in form will cause plenty of issues for the opposition. Although whether they both will stay fit together for enough games to go on a long winning streak is to be seen.

Odegaard is not the only problem in CM when it comes to creativity. Whoever is playing 8 has to have deep lying play making skills as well.

Perfect example Madrid. Madrid was 10.
Kroos 8. Both had high IQ and footballing intelligence to open up defences with creativity.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Odegaard is not the only problem in CM when it comes to creativity. Whoever is playing 8 has to have deep lying play making skills as well.

Perfect example Madrid. Madrid was 10.
Kroos 8. Both had high IQ and footballing intelligence to open up defences with creativity.

Its their recruitment, they played with 3 defensive mids on Sunday. Rice, Merino and Zubimendi are defensive in nature, a blind man with a brick and bowl of paint is more creative than all 3.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Its their recruitment, they played with 3 defensive mids on Sunday. Rice, Merino and Zubimendi are defensive in nature, a blind man with a brick and bowl of paint is more creative than all 3.

Yep that's the point. Not one of these midfielders have the Craft and IQ to unlock.

The Gooners midfield profile is all to similar im afraid.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Attacking style of play is not just limited to the attackers. In General it's the philosophy instilled in the side.

An attacking philosophy is moving the ball quicker. Midfield again moving the ball quicker, having craft in tight spaces, be able to break the lines.

Its no point having Saka Eze Madueke Gyokeres with attack minded instincts when the CM is static. Modern day Football, both the 8 and 10 have to be crafty with the ball and have real footballing IQ, specially in tight spaces.

Spot on analysis

Arsenal left 8 - merino, havertz etc.. Arteta was more bothered about winning duals then the progressive football

Arsenal 10 - Odegaard - Arteta is more bothered pressing, arm waving, flicking hair and giving out instructions. Then actually creating chances

The slow ones in this fan base will soon realise that Zubimendi and Gyokeres will be stiffled by the haram / terrorist keep the football hostage but don't do anything with it tactics.

You see the same thing at City and how players like grealish were stifled. To many manager now over coaching and simply more focused on low risk, not losing the ball tactics then actually being adventurous

 

[Amjid Javed]

Its their recruitment, they played with 3 defensive mids on Sunday. Rice, Merino and Zubimendi are defensive in nature, a blind man with a brick and bowl of paint is more creative than all 3.

Midfield is best in Europe and has world class depth. When Peshwari Jimmy hill is telling you stuff like this, you need to pay attention

 

[Mamoon]

I totally agree. Its upto the manger to change his philosophy of play but Arsenal have recruited multiple no.6s but no no.10, Odegaard is not up to standard. They just dont have the players for what you are stating.

However they are very fortunate to have Saka and Eze who can take on defenders, go past them and deliver top quality passes into the box. They were both out v LFC but when both in the same XI, in form will cause plenty of issues for the opposition. Although whether they both will stay fit together for enough games to go on a long winning streak is to be seen.

Odegaard is better than vegan Wirtz. Come back when vegan Wirtz gets 20+ G/A in a single PL campaign like Odegaard has.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Odegaard is better than vegan Wirtz. Come back when vegan Wirtz gets 20+ G/A in a single PL campaign like Odegaard has.

I will, its been 3 matches for him, have some patience. Odegaard has been at Arsenal for years, he has only ONCE passed more than 20+GA lol

 

[Mamoon]

I will, its been 3 matches for him, have some patience. Odegaard has been at Arsenal for years, he has only ONCE passed more than 20+GA lol

How many midfielders in PL history have had 20+ G/As in a single PL season? Please list them.

 

[Mamoon]

Midfield is best in Europe and has world class depth. When Peshwari Jimmy hill is telling you stuff like this, you need to pay attention

Odegaard x Rice x Zubimendi is a world class midfield and rivaled by PSG and Barcelona only.

 

[KingKhanWC]

How many midfielders in PL history have had 20+ G/As in a single PL season? Please list them.

One swallow doesnt make a summer. Exactly my point he had a lucky season, not even close to repetition.

Cuhna had 20+ last season, Arsenal should have bought him and sold this hairdresser.

P.s Please post his cartoon drawing on your wall too.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Odegaard x Rice x Zubimendi is a world class midfield and rivaled by PSG and Barcelona only.

The Midfield is the key area of the side. And until Arsenal win a Major, your assumptions have zero value.

 

[Amjid Javed]

zero creativity midfielder is now world class

 

[Mamoon]

One swallow doesnt make a summer. Exactly my point he had a lucky season, not even close to repetition.

Cuhna had 20+ last season, Arsenal should have bought him and sold this hairdresser.

P.s Please post his cartoon drawing on your wall too.

You didn't answer my question. You mocked Odegaard for having only one season with 20+ G/As in the PL.

I ask again - how many midfielders in PL history have had 20+ G/As in the PL in a single season?

 

[GOSH11]

Don’t give it if you can’t take it. I am not interesting in exchanges pleasantries but you kept making rubbish references to my ethnicity. Hopefully you will pipe it down now.

Absolute nonsense again, and I can prove it to you by quoting exactly what Tony said.

“He's (Arteta) got a really big call to make this year and for me he hasn't done it.

The call is to make Declan Rice the captain. I think Declan is my kind of captain, and it might free Odegaard up to play with a bit more freedom.

Every now and again as a manager, you have to put someone who reflects you, who reflects the football club that you think can actually take you to the next level.

And I'm seeing Declan Rice as a captain but I'm saying to Arteta:

Come on, step up now. It's your time to be a winning manager and a fantastic manager, because you're not going to win the league with Odegaard as captain.'

Unless you struggle to comprehend basic English, he is CLEARLY giving Arteta managerial advice by asking him to strip Odegaard of captaincy.

He is offering no insight on why Odegaard is not a good captain according to him and what has he done wrong or where he can improve.

This is my point — Tony is in no position to give Arteta managerial advice given that he himself was a complete failure as a manager.

However, if he talks more about what Odegaard can do better as captain or where he lacks, he is more than welcome to do so because he was a great captain and clearly knows about being a great football captain.

If you ask me, I am against removing someone as captain when they are still part of the team. Such demotions are not good for the dressing room culture. Once you make someone captain, you stick by it until the player is no longer an automatic starter or of course leaves the club.

Haha!

Pleasantries? I was not giving you any! I was mirroring and pointing out that you play on the being a medic card and there are levels to this, you wouldn't cut it over here... next time, I shall put a sarcasm disclaimer to stop it going over your head.

And once more....I was in agreement with Tony Adams re replacing the captain....

 

[GOSH11]

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Oh, even less than no idea on football.... it is not bodybuilding...

Consensus amongst learned fans, emphasis on learned fans, those that have at least played basic Sunday league on here, those that have grown up in the footy culture would not post such rubbish!

Isak is levels above- all round play is far superior.

You really have no idea when it comes to football, you make a decent hodgepodge effort at analysis, just generic stuff.

 

[GOSH11]

Odegaard x Rice x Zubimendi is a world class midfield and rivaled by PSG and Barcelona only.

Oh dear

The above rivals

De Jong, pedri and gavi?

Vitinha, quiz and neves?

Cut out the prawns....!

 

[KingKhanWC]

You didn't answer my question. You mocked Odegaard for having only one season with 20+ G/As in the PL.

I ask again - how many midfielders in PL history have had 20+ G/As in the PL in a single season?

Plenty , Palmer will do it multiple times and many others too . Odegaard has one good seaso with the rest being poor . He will still score and assist less than 20 until he retires unless he gets a new coach soon and improves considerably

 

[Mamoon]

Plenty , Palmer will do it multiple times and many others too . Odegaard has one good seaso with the rest being poor . He will still score and assist less than 20 until he retires unless he gets a new coach soon and improves considerably

"will do" is not the same as "have done it".

You have dug a hole for yourself and you are desperately trying to crawl out of now, but as a kind person, I will ask you one last time but will let it go and not embarrass you further.

how many midfielders in PL history have had 20+ G/As in the PL in a single season?

 

[Mamoon]

@GOSH11

I used to take you half-seriously until you blatantly misquoted Tony Adams to prove your point and I had to educate you. I don't mind difference of opinion but I don't appreciate dishonesty. You have lost all respect in my eyes.

Also, I don't need certifications of "footy" knowledge from someone for whom I have to drop 50 IQ points just to engage with.

And no, Isak is not levels above Gyokeres. He is a better all-round footballer for sure, but as a goal scorer, Gyokeres blows him out of the water. That is evident when they are playing for the same national team. He will score more goals than Isak in the PL, you can bet on it.

Isak would never score as many as he has if he were to play for Sporting, and Gyokeres will easily score more than him if he were to play for Newcastle.

No more replies to you unless I see something intelligent from you, which I highly doubt. If you want to have the last word, you can have the last word. No problem, but you have to earn the right to engage with me - a right that you surrendered yesterday.

 

[GOSH11]

@GOSH11

I used to take you half-seriously until you blatantly misquoted Tony Adams to prove your point and I had to educate you. I don't mind difference of opinion but I don't appreciate dishonesty. You have lost all respect in my eyes.

Also, I don't need certifications of "footy" knowledge from someone for whom I have to drop 50 IQ points just to engage with.

And no, Isak is not levels above Gyokeres. He is a better all-round footballer for sure, but as a goal scorer, Gyokeres blows him out of the water. That is evident when they are playing for the same national team. He will score more goals than Isak in the PL, you can bet on it.

Isak would never score as many as he has if he were to play for Sporting, and Gyokeres will easily score more than him if he were to play for Newcastle.

No more replies to you unless I see something intelligent from you, which I highly doubt. If you want to have the last word, you can have the last word. No problem, but you have to earn the right to engage with me - a right that you surrendered yesterday.

R.e. certifications, you simply would not get any for football! Either you give Stevie Wonder a run for his money or there is a wide consensus about your (lack of) footy knowledge.

In terms of IQ, as mentioned, levels to medicine etc... and i feel comfortable, mirroring your put down strategy and belittle your IQ// "medical career" in some corner of Pakistan.

Right to engage with you? Feel privileged that you even converse with someone that is levels above in your own field....

 

[GOSH11]

"will do" is not the same as "have done it".

You have dug a hole for yourself and you are desperately trying to crawl out of now, but as a kind person, I will ask you one last time but will let it go and not embarrass you further.

how many midfielders in PL history have had 20+ G/As in the PL in a single season?

Lampard
Gerrard
Beckham
Pires
Le tissier
KDB
Cesc

Just to name Some

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Lampard
Gerrard
Beckham
Pires
Le tissier
KDB
Cesc

Just to name Some

Don't forget Jacob Murphy, he got 20 G/A last season

 

[GOSH11]

Don't forget Jacob Murphy, he got 20 G/A last season

Excellent shout bhai!

From that list, Le Tiss was some player back in the day!!

Nobby almost did the 20 figure for Newcastle back in the day, classy player- very underrated!

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Excellent shout bhai!

From that list, Le Tiss was some player back in the day!!

Nobby almost did the 20 figure for Newcastle back in the day, classy player- very underrated!

Think 18 might have been the closest he had, love Nobby, wasn't blessed with any pace but technically very sound

 

[GOSH11]

Think 18 might have been the closest he had, love Nobby, wasn't blessed with any pace but technically very sound

For me, a throwback wide player on the right, great set pieces, good work ethic etc. Class act and a staple in fantasy premier league teams back in the day!

 

[topspin]

Think 18 might have been the closest he had, love Nobby, wasn't blessed with any pace but technically very sound

Good old days. He's now coach of the Pakistan football team.

 

[GOSH11]

Good old days. He's now coach of the Pakistan football team.

I didn't realise! Good, honest professional!

Definitely the good old days!