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Arsenal manager - Is Mikel Arteta the right choice?

Arsenal manager - Is Mikel Arteta the right choice?


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I don’t know why you keep repeating this line. Why the insecurity?

Perhaps it is because Arteta has already embarrassed you and exposed your footballing sense.

Your old posts in this thread look hilarious now. Thankfully the club didn’t listen to people like you and persisted with him.

Everyone knows that Arsenal have almost no chance of winning the league including Arteta. Sure it has happened in the past and it can happen again, people have been waiting for Arsenal to slip up from the top since game game 1 and Arsenal are still top after game 13.

But there are a lot factors that will make it difficult for Arsenal to sustain their position at the top.

The squad lacks depth and a couple of injuries would probably derail them. Players will lose form at some point, the World Cup could be a momentum-killer. In addition, City is likely to pick up 4 if not 6 points from Arsenal.

But Arsenal are heavy favorites for finishing second and even a top 3 finish would be a massive step in the right direction and an indication of what is to come.

The biggest takeaway is that Arteta has shown that he has what it takes to make Arsenal a proper force again and there is no doubt he can win the league over the next few years.

He knows how he wants the team to play, he has improved the mentality of the players and he will keep signing the right players to raise the level of the team.

Arsenal are in a really good spot right now and full credit goes to the club for identifying the right person to rebuild the team and persisting with him, ignoring the rants of people who don’t know the first thing about football.

Some serious nonsense as always .

You’ve never kicked a ball. I’ve been to emirates more than you’ve dreamt of .

Arteta has won nothing . He won’t win premier league & won’t win champions league if you’re lucky enough to make top 4 which .

You keep drooling over being in a good spot :)))
 
Arsenal fan TV is hillarious.

From a Liverpool fan, Arteta is simply not good enough for Arsenal. 3rd most succesful club in English history deserves a manager who has experience and won something.

Get rid of him and get in someone more experienced. Poch has won nothing much either but would be be better than him.

4 more matches left for Arsenal & Arteta imo.

The owners are under pressure, imo they will sack Arteta and bring in a new manager hoping this will cheer up Arsenal fans.

Some serious nonsense as always .

You’ve never kicked a ball. I’ve been to emirates more than you’ve dreamt of .

Arteta has won nothing . He won’t win premier league & won’t win champions league if you’re lucky enough to make top 4 which .

You keep drooling over being in a good spot :)))

Exposed like no tomorrow. My goodness this is embarrassing. :klopp
 
Actually if Arteta can find a 15-20 goal (half season) player in the January window

We can at least secure top 4 and challenge for the title
 
Exposed like no tomorrow. My goodness this is embarrassing. :klopp

The dairy of a person who can’t kick a ball lol after 38 better Indian bowlers than Naseem , diary should be away

Arteta has won sweet fa cup & nothing .

Never known a fan so happy with a manager who ain’t won a thing .

When will Arteta win a major trophy ?

Ps I’ll post photos next time I see arsenal play
 
The dairy of a person who can’t kick a ball lol after 38 better Indian bowlers than Naseem , diary should be away

Arteta has won sweet fa cup & nothing .

Never known a fan so happy with a manager who ain’t won a thing .

When will Arteta win a major trophy ?

Ps I’ll post photos next time I see arsenal play

Please keep crying, it is very entertaining. You seem flustered and rightly so.

You would have spilled your coffee if you were told that Arsenal would be top of the league after MW13 and 15 points clear of Liverpool.

It is not about trophies only but about improving the team. If you don’t see the improvement in terms of how Arsenal play and the mentality of the players, you clearly don’t know the first thing about football.

Arteta is building something special. He is transforming the team and the club was right to persist with him and ignored people like you and others who have no vision and wanted him sacked.

Speaking of trophies, it took Klopp four years to win his first trophy at Liverpool, and I am sure impatient, football ignorant people like yourself wanted him gone in 2016 and 2017 because he was not winning trophies, but Liverpool and the genuine football observers could tell what he was creating and the fruits that he would bear later on.

Arteta is doing the same at Arsenal. Unlike Klopp, he didn’t have to wait 4 years to win his first trophy, he managed to pick up an FA Cup in his first season, and although he hasn’t won the league yet, he is clearly putting together the pieces that would make Arsenal a proper force in England and Europe over the coming years.

Arteta is a top manager. Arsenal are incredibly lucky to have him because both City and Barca would love to have him at the helm in the future.

Those who wanted him sacked have been left with eggs on their faces and now they are inventing new excuses to put him down.

I love how Arsenal occupying the top position until MW 13 is giving them stomach ache and they have to keep repeating the line “Arsenal will not win the league” as if any realistic Arsenal fan think so.

It seems like these folks who have been owned by Arteta are giving themselves reassurances because they cannot believe what they are witnessing. :)))
 
Please keep crying, it is very entertaining. You seem flustered and rightly so.

You would have spilled your coffee if you were told that Arsenal would be top of the league after MW13 and 15 points clear of Liverpool.

It is not about trophies only but about improving the team. If you don’t see the improvement in terms of how Arsenal play and the mentality of the players, you clearly don’t know the first thing about football.

Arteta is building something special. He is transforming the team and the club was right to persist with him and ignored people like you and others who have no vision and wanted him sacked.

Speaking of trophies, it took Klopp four years to win his first trophy at Liverpool, and I am sure impatient, football ignorant people like yourself wanted him gone in 2016 and 2017 because he was not winning trophies, but Liverpool and the genuine football observers could tell what he was creating and the fruits that he would bear later on.

Arteta is doing the same at Arsenal. Unlike Klopp, he didn’t have to wait 4 years to win his first trophy, he managed to pick up an FA Cup in his first season, and although he hasn’t won the league yet, he is clearly putting together the pieces that would make Arsenal a proper force in England and Europe over the coming years.

Arteta is a top manager. Arsenal are incredibly lucky to have him because both City and Barca would love to have him at the helm in the future.

Those who wanted him sacked have been left with eggs on their faces and now they are inventing new excuses to put him down.

I love how Arsenal occupying the top position until MW 13 is giving them stomach ache and they have to keep repeating the line “Arsenal will not win the league” as if any realistic Arsenal fan think so.

It seems like these folks who have been owned by Arteta are giving themselves reassurances because they cannot believe what they are witnessing. :)))

Arteta is no jurgen klopp lol This Arsenal team is nowhere near the LFC team which won CL , klopps first major trophy.

Building something special ? When will he win the premier league or champions league ? Year will do . It’s only November, you ain’t even secured top 4 yet
 
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Anyone?

Prediction, when will Arteta lead Arsenal to a League trophy or a champions league trophy? Which year?
 
[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Give it a rest. Mamoon has proved you wrong on Arteta.

In your own words, you claimed "Arteta is simply not good enough for Arsenal". That's blown back in your face and now you're making a desperate attempt to cover up your error in judgement and divert the conversation to something completely irrelevant. No one expects Arteta to deliver PL/CL at this stage. It's about improving the team which he's done immeasurably.

Instead you should be the bigger man and admit you got your prediction on Arteta wrong.

You really do have a lot to say for a team that is 15 points behind Arsenal.

Arteta is no jurgen klopp lol

This is a very odd statement to make as they're at completely different stages of their managerial career. One of them is the youngest manager in the league but in spite of this he's achieved almost double the points than what Klopp has managed this season.

Seriously, the more you talk, the more you're embarrassing yourself. This isn't the time for any Liverpool fan to be mocking Arsenal or Arteta especially with what happened recently when your side came to the Emirates. Another prediction which you also got horribly wrong I have to say.

At present your team is rubbish and Klopp's time at Liverpool might be about to come to an end. Enjoy it while it lasts.
 
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[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Give it a rest. Mamoon has proved you wrong on Arteta.

In your own words, you claimed "Arteta is simply not good enough for Arsenal". That's blown back in your face and now you're making a desperate attempt to cover up your error in judgement and divert the conversation to something completely irrelevant. No one expects Arteta to deliver PL/CL at this stage. It's about improving the team which he's done immeasurably.

Instead you should be the bigger man and admit you got your prediction on Arteta wrong.

You really do have a lot to say for a team that is 15 points behind Arsenal.



This is a very odd statement to make as they're at completely different stages of their managerial career. One of them is the youngest manager in the league but in spite of this he's achieved almost double the points than what Klopp has managed this season.

Seriously, the more you talk, the more you're embarrassing yourself. This isn't the time for any Liverpool fan to be mocking Arsenal or Arteta especially with what happened recently when your side came to the Emirates. Another prediction which you also got horribly wrong I have to say.

At present your team is rubbish and Klopp's time at Liverpool might be about to come to an end. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Awww here comes the fellow Arsenal big bro.

He hasnt proven anything, in case you havent noticed Arteta has won nothing and its only Nov, he hasnnt even secured top 4.

Your brother claimed and compared Klopp with Arteta not me. I merely replied dont be stupid as Klopp cannot be compared to a manager who won nothing.

I think you are embarrasing your little self with your emotions.

Your team has won no major trophy for decades, we are in the CL knockout stages and you idiotically think your team is better than mine.

I ask you, when will Arteta win one of of the two major trophies?
 
Awww here comes the fellow Arsenal big bro.

He hasnt proven anything, in case you havent noticed Arteta has won nothing and its only Nov, he hasnnt even secured top 4.

Your brother claimed and compared Klopp with Arteta not me. I merely replied dont be stupid as Klopp cannot be compared to a manager who won nothing.

I think you are embarrasing your little self with your emotions.

Your team has won no major trophy for decades, we are in the CL knockout stages and you idiotically think your team is better than mine.

I ask you, when will Arteta win one of of the two major trophies?

At present, again I emphasise the word "present" - we are the better team this season. There is no doubt about that. We have almost double your points tally. It's a no brainer.

You're only in the CL because of your results in the PL last season.

Last season you were the better team but that's no longer the case.

I promise you it's simple logic.
 
At present, again I emphasise the word "present" - we are the better team this season. There is no doubt about that. We have almost double your points tally. It's a no brainer.

You're only in the CL because of your results in the PL last season.

Last season you were the better team but that's no longer the case.

I promise you it's simple logic.

Being further up the table by 7th November doesnt mean you are a better team. You just managed to beat us at home with a soft penalty. We claimed 15 points in the CL group, this shows we are still a top European side.

I assume you dont have any real confidence in Arteta as you cannot even attempt to predict when he will win one of the two big trophies. Its fine, I dont blame you tbh. :)
 
Being further up the table by 7th November with 15 points above Liverpool does mean you are the better team. You just managed to beat us at home with a soft penalty. We claimed 15 points in the CL group, this shows we are still a top European side.

I assume you dont have any real confidence in Arteta as you cannot even attempt to predict when he will win one of the two big trophies. Its fine, I dont blame you tbh. :)

Fixed for you. :)
 
Being further up the table by 7th November doesnt mean you are a better team. You just managed to beat us at home with a soft penalty. We claimed 15 points in the CL group, this shows we are still a top European side.

I assume you dont have any real confidence in Arteta as you cannot even attempt to predict when he will win one of the two big trophies. Its fine, I dont blame you tbh. :)

Congrats to Liverpool on the 15 points and sustaining its status as a top European side but they will be playing their papa Madrid in the R16 who are likely to leave Klopp and Salah in tears for a third time. :)))
 
Ok seems that we have all made our points - time to move on until some new facts are known.

Thread becomes boring when just 2 people talking to each other
 
Any doubters left? Make yourselves known below...
 
Within a year, Arteta has beaten Klopp, Lampard and Ole twice and also beat Pep once.

He is clearly a brilliant young manager who needs to be backed. Arsenal were not going to sack him any time soon, but this would further boost their confidence in him.

27th December, 2020.
 
Arsenal extended their lead at the top of the Premier League to a formidable eight points with an outstanding performance and win in the north London derby at Tottenham.

The Gunners took full advantage of Manchester City's loss at Manchester United on Saturday with an impressive show of style in the first half and steel after the break to claim a vital three points.

Arsenal were helped by a blunder from hapless Spurs keeper Hugo Lloris when he fumbled Bukayo Saka's cross into his own net after 14 minutes, but it was no more than Mikel Arteta's side deserved as captain Martin Odegaard drilled in a second from outside the area nine minutes before the break.

Spurs, so poor in the first half, did have their chances but found visiting keeper Aaron Ramsdale in top form as he saved twice either side of half-time from Harry Kane and also denied Ryan Sessegnon's angled effort.

BBC
 
This is what I believe, Arsenal wont hold on him for too long. A bad finish to the season could get him sacked.

However his no.1 fan on here Mamoon thinks otherwise.

"Arteta is a great manager in the making and you are wrong about him just like you are wrong about 99% of things. Arsenal is a patient club and he will be given time to excel. "

Should have listened to me. Unfortunately, kicking a football around in your local park doesn’t make you knowledgeable on football. You don’t have a clue.
 
I'll cash in on a few here, why not... :)

I trust completely in Arteta - think he's completely the right man for the job. But the club insist on making this progress so painstaking by barely investing anything in him. Great we addressed the CB position, but at this rate of just upgrading one weakness every summer, Arteta will be long gone before we become any good.

We can all see how he's changing it and what he can do, so just pay the 40-50m for a new midfielder for God's sake.

Yes he has to take responsibility, but he has not even been here a full year, and has only been able to make one big signing, who's been injured most of these losses this season.

I am as angry and frustrated about our performances as the next fan, but it was only a few months ago he transformed a team heading for relegation under Emery into an FA Cup winning side, beating 2 big teams on the way. He has a clear plan of how he wants to play, which he has shown can succeed in the biggest games that we so often get smashed in, as well as the smaller games. That is far more than you can say about an Arsenal manager in the last 5 years.

Wenger, Emery, Arteta, there is a pattern with the performances across 3 different respected football coaches. At some point we have to take a look at these players and think who can get a top 4 side out of them? Xhaka, Luiz, Bellerin, Ceballos, Willian, Lacazette. Add to that the deadwood outside the XI, like Mustafi, Cedric, Sokratis, Kolasinac and more. I'm sorry but these are very very average players, you can bring in prime Alex Ferguson and he will not take these idiots into the top 4.

This club's recruitment has been horrible, across the 3 different managers. Arteta is not the problem, we can change managers every 5 months and you will not see noticeable improvements in points tally. The issue for Arteta is the PL top 10 are so much stronger this year than in any year before.

Just 3 of the players that started in that Man City 5-0 loss also started in today's 2-0 win away to Leicester. It's almost as if a manager should be judged when all his preferred players/signings are actually fit and available!

For context, Arsenal's two draws in this run were against Brighton (who today drew at Anfield) and Crystal Palace (who today won 2-0 away at Man City).

We also have the youngest starting XI in the entire league. With the addition of Lacazette into the team recently, that makes just 3 players above the age of 24 in the starting XI. So the players and manager will only get better.

Early days still but perhaps Arteta isn't taking Arsenal into the Championship as many have suggested :)

Love to see Arteta succeeding. Have been a lot of bumps in the road no doubt, but they have kept firm faith in him and we are seeing the fruits of that labour now. He had a huge job to reform the culture and overhaul a squad of past-their-prime mercenaries, all in a Covid pandemic in his first job.

He has done a superb job, and it's amazing watching him prove all these blind rival fans wrong who have been giving him non-stop crap since the day he came.

Anyone that actually watches this team on a weekly basis knows exactly the progress he is making. Hopefully he'll beat Conte to top 4 (with a team that includes Cedric, Tavares, Elneny and Nketiah :) ), with the youngest squad in the league while all predicted another mid-table finish.

Ramsdale, Tomiyasu, White, Gabriel, Tierney, Tavares, Lokonga, Saka, Smith Rowe, Odegaard, Martinelli all 24 and under. We are building something special, just need those few marquee signings, the attacking equivalent of a Van Dijk-Allisson window.

As much as it hurts to bottle that Champions League spot like we did (and it hurt me quite a lot), read the previous page of this thread or the 1st page Arsenal season thread. Read all the pundit and fan pre-season predictions. No one had Arsenal anywhere close to top 4. Everyone was cackling at our summer transfer business.

The same people who said we'd be fighting for a Conference League place under Arteta this season are the same people saying it's a huge failure that we missed out on UCL on the last day with injuries to 3 key players.

We were the 4th best team for 90% of the season, but these 21-24 year old players totally bottled it in the 2 games when it really mattered in hostile away atmospheres. The mentality to keep your head and play under elite-level pressure is something they clearly were not ready for and it cost us. I believe that will come with time. Very few of them have ever played a minute of Champions League football.

Obviously the end result is all that matters, which wasn't good enough considering where we were at one point, but I do think we've progressed, if you took a step back to look at the big picture. Now we need recruitment.

Any doubters left? Make yourselves known below...

Certain fans wanted him sacked just 8 months ago, and called those that supported him deluded. Anyways, we're all Arsenal fans. Onwards and upwards, Arteta has built something special.
 
Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta talking to Sky Sports, asked about what he liked: "Everything. I loved the way we played and the courage we showed to come here and play. Doing our job we can make a lot of people happy, and I'm sure we've made Arsenal fans very happy.

"It is not for me. Everything we ask, they are so willing to try and do. They are a terrific group of players. I think today we went another step. We won last season in big stadiums, but the way we won today was really pleasing to watch.

"It shows not only determination and courage but you have to have the belief and quaity to do it against this team. That is absolutely down to the players.

"We were really aggressive. We were really intense against the high press. We won so many balls and duels. They created some openings, they are a dangerous team, but we did a lot of good work today."

On Murdyk joining Chelsea: "I am very proud to have the players we have. We always want to try to improve the squad. The club are the first to try and improve the players we have. We have to have some discipline and be consistent in the targets we have. We can make the players better - let's focus on that."

Do they need extra bodies? "We had some injuries, long-term injuries and it's not helpful but we can focus on tomorrow. Train better, train better and review the game. We will try to improve the team. There are always a few parties involved. The club are willing and they have my support and I have their support."

On the incident at the end: "I haven't watched it. I watched a great game of football and that's what I want to talk about."
 
He's got arsenal in a Commanding position. Could be 11 clear next Sunday. But he needs reinforcements for midfield and attack
 
Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta, speaking to Sky Sports: "Emotional, a lot of passion, a lot of quality. It doesn't get much better than that. After the derby, to come here against this team and play the way we played. The second half especially, the performance was incredible.

"To win it in that way makes it even better.

"We were composed and determined at the same time. We managed the moments in the game. We never panicked. We always believed that we could win it. We showed the right composure in the box a lot of times but the ball didn't go in. Thankfully at the end it did."

On his yellow card: "Can't complain. You can always get better in life."

On waiting for VAR for winning goal: "We experienced something similar v Newcastle but today it went our way.

"I don't want to talk about individuals. We took the ball and made things happen. They are young but they are confident to do it."

On Arsenal's best ever start to a Premier League season: "It's great and we deserve to be where we are because of how we're playing. But there are a lot of things that we can do much better."

On pressure: "We've been talking about pressure for the last 12 or 13 games. Premier League teams will always make it difficult and we have to prepare for that."

On the importance of transfers: "Just in terms of numbers, we had 15 or 16 outfield players and it wasn't enough. They are going to help us. You saw Trossard is composed and confident already."
 
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Just look at Arsenal squad plain mediocre and What Arteta is trying to achieve with it magical, putting shame to embarrassment of riches like Chelsea & Liverpool
 
Mikel Arteta has revealed he told his Arsenal players ‘the moment is now’ as his half-time team talk inspired a stunning comeback at Aston Villa.

The Gunners got back to winning ways as they edged out the Villans in the Midlands to win 4-2 after twice coming from behind.

Incredibly, it is the first time that Arsenal have come from behind at half-time to win a match outside of London since December 2009.

Arsenal went into the game at Villa Park having been knocked off top spot following the midweek defeat to Manchester City.

And having failed to beat Everton and Brentford in their previous fixtures, the pressure was on for the north Londoners with the club in danger of another mid-season capitulation.

Arteta‘s side started off in the worst possible fashion after Ollie Watkins broke the deadlock in the fifth minute, before Philippe Coutinho restored the hosts’ lead after Bukayo Saka’s equaliser.

The Arsenal boss revealed he gave a passionate speech to his squad at the break, and it clearly had an effect as the visitors scored three unanswered goals – two of which came in injury-time.

Speaking to talkSPORT’s Sam Matterface, Arteta declared his side’s wild celebrations at the end showed how much his players want to win the league

Talksport
 
Mikel Arteta has been named the Manager of the Month after guiding Arsenal to a perfect March

Arteta helped the Gunners stretch their lead at the top of the #PL table to eight points above Manchester City.
 
Clueless Manager when it comes to pressure games.

The FA Cup win early in his management reign was all down to Auba brilliance.

Since then any high pressure cup games, Top 4 games and now title race and he looks clueless with no Plan B and zero in game management.

Look at Pep this season with City, hes changed things rather then playing same way when things arent going well. That difference between Master and clown novice!
 
Clueless Manager when it comes to pressure games.

The FA Cup win early in his management reign was all down to Auba brilliance.

Since then any high pressure cup games, Top 4 games and now title race and he looks clueless with no Plan B and zero in game management.

Look at Pep this season with City, hes changed things rather then playing same way when things arent going well. That difference between Master and clown novice!

So you didn’t have the courage to bump this thread all season and own up to your laughable verdict that he should have been sacked 12 months ago and now you are back. :)))

Where do you think Arsenal would have been right now in terms of the table and more importantly, in terms of development if the board would have listened to impatient fans like you last season?

You don’t need to answer this question. You can’t answer this question. It is something that you need to think about for your own good.
 
“Clown novice” who made Arsenal a title challenging team within 3 years in the era of Pep-Klopp and heavy spenders like United and City.

We all know who the real clown novices are: the fans who think he wasn’t (or isn’t) good enough and wanted him sacked.

The fact that they still have the nerve to run their mouths makes me laugh. Arteta has buried them under different skies.
 
“Clown novice” who made Arsenal a title challenging team within 3 years in the era of Pep-Klopp and heavy spenders like United and City.

We all know who the real clown novices are: the fans who think he wasn’t (or isn’t) good enough and wanted him sacked.

The fact that they still have the nerve to run their mouths makes me laugh. Arteta has buried them under different skies.

A clown novice who has made same repeatedly mistakes in last 3 games, with poor team selection. In game management and clearly has no tactical plan B, a few players missing or out of form and Arteta doesn't have a clue. He should go back to City and put out the cones.

You proclaiming his as great manager and Arsenal had title in bag, huge slice of humble pie for you. Go and bump all the bookmarked threads hey, now you've got egg on your face.

Any manager at a big club Arsenal, city, united, Liverpool or Chelsea would ve expected to challenge after 3.5 years and spending 500M on 20+ players, so stop hyping up what is the bare minimum expectation at thr club.

Because you haven't got a leg to stand on your saying Areta has silenced every one.

Only silence was Arsenal's title challenge dying because the Manager making same amateurish mistakes under pressure.

Bottled top 4, bottling title race thats on Arteta, the mentally weak players

Henry and Vieira were clearly ashamed watching the game tonight, 2 legends of the game watching a fraud of an ex player in Arteta taking club as far as he can go.

Just like mourinho took over at Chelsea after Raneri, Arsenal need a new manager who can change the loser mentality Arteta has brought to club
 
A clown novice who has made same repeatedly mistakes in last 3 games, with poor team selection. In game management and clearly has no tactical plan B, a few players missing or out of form and Arteta doesn't have a clue. He should go back to City and put out the cones.

You proclaiming his as great manager and Arsenal had title in bag, huge slice of humble pie for you. Go and bump all the bookmarked threads hey, now you've got egg on your face.

Any manager at a big club Arsenal, city, united, Liverpool or Chelsea would ve expected to challenge after 3.5 years and spending 500M on 20+ players, so stop hyping up what is the bare minimum expectation at thr club.

Because you haven't got a leg to stand on your saying Areta has silenced every one.

Only silence was Arsenal's title challenge dying because the Manager making same amateurish mistakes under pressure.

Bottled top 4, bottling title race thats on Arteta, the mentally weak players

Henry and Vieira were clearly ashamed watching the game tonight, 2 legends of the game watching a fraud of an ex player in Arteta taking club as far as he can go.

Just like mourinho took over at Chelsea after Raneri, Arsenal need a new manager who can change the loser mentality Arteta has brought to club

Arteta didn’t just give impatient fans like you a humble pie; he gave you the whole bakery.

You did not answer my question - where would this Arsenal team be without Arteta? You know the answer but you don’t have the nerve to say it.

The fact is that 12 months back, or even before the start of this season, no one expected Arsenal to be in this position in April 2023.

Arsenal is where it is purely down to the genius of Arteta and people who thought he was not good enough to take Arsenal forward and was a novice, clueless manager who wasn’t ready for this job have been made to look like complete fools.

Arsenal fans would have been happy with a third place finish this season without a title challenge and now they are turning up their noses and criticizing Arteta when Arsenal are going neck to neck with City for the title.

The club and Arteta don’t deserve such ungrateful and impatient fans who have no vision and no class. He is one of the best - if not the best - young manager in the world and there are bigger and more powerful clubs than Arsenal out there who’d love for him to be their manager.

Not only are these fans ungrateful, they also have no bottle. They have been wetting themselves for months because they have no faith in the team.

You see some of these fans in the stadium too - the lot that left after the 85th minute yesterday because they didn’t have faith in the team to fight back. Fortunately the players showed more bottle like they have all season and scored twice in stoppage time to salvage a point.

Unfortunately, not only do some of the fans lack bottle, they also secretly want Arsenal to falter so that they can drive their anti-Arteta agendas.

The anti-Arteta crowd who wanted him sacked last season and thought he won’t take Arsenal forward have been left with eggs on their face and they are hoping for him to fail so that they can celebrate. How pathetic.

All posts will be bumped come the end of the season. Don’t worry.
 
Arteta didn’t just give impatient fans like you a humble pie; he gave you the whole bakery.

You did not answer my question - where would this Arsenal team be without Arteta? You know the answer but you don’t have the nerve to say it.

The fact is that 12 months back, or even before the start of this season, no one expected Arsenal to be in this position in April 2023.

Arsenal is where it is purely down to the genius of Arteta and people who thought he was not good enough to take Arsenal forward and was a novice, clueless manager who wasn’t ready for this job have been made to look like complete fools.

Arsenal fans would have been happy with a third place finish this season without a title challenge and now they are turning up their noses and criticizing Arteta when Arsenal are going neck to neck with City for the title.

The club and Arteta don’t deserve such ungrateful and impatient fans who have no vision and no class. He is one of the best - if not the best - young manager in the world and there are bigger and more powerful clubs than Arsenal out there who’d love for him to be their manager.

Not only are these fans ungrateful, they also have no bottle. They have been wetting themselves for months because they have no faith in the team.

You see some of these fans in the stadium too - the lot that left after the 85th minute yesterday because they didn’t have faith in the team to fight back. Fortunately the players showed more bottle like they have all season and scored twice in stoppage time to salvage a point.

Unfortunately, not only do some of the fans lack bottle, they also secretly want Arsenal to falter so that they can drive their anti-Arteta agendas.

The anti-Arteta crowd who wanted him sacked last season and thought he won’t take Arsenal forward have been left with eggs on their face and they are hoping for him to fail so that they can celebrate. How pathetic.

All posts will be bumped come the end of the season. Don’t worry.

What a garbage essay!

where would Arsenal be without Arteta? :))

To Answer your question - You think the club didnt exist before Arteta was manager? You think the club will not exist after Arteta? utter clown, the club has been around for over 100 years

Because you have some sort of weird love for Arteta.

Arteta has been in charge for 3.5 years and achieved nothing, 1 FA Cup which was won by Auba brilliance (Just like Michael owen won an FA cup final for liverpool)

Feel free to bump as many posts as you want to celebrate Arteta bottling it 2nd season running (Top 4 last year and Title race this season)

The season before that he bottled the Europa league semi final when he got taken to school by Emery.
 
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What a garbage essay!

where would Arsenal be without Arteta? :))

To Answer your question - You think the club didnt exist before Arteta was manager? You think the club will not exist after Arteta? utter clown, the club has been around for over 100 years

Because you have some sort of weird love for Arteta.

Arteta has been in charge for 3.5 years and achieved nothing, 1 FA Cup which was won by Auba brilliance (Just like Michael owen won an FA cup final for liverpool)

Feel free to bump as many posts as you want to celebrate Arteta bottling it 2nd season running (Top 4 last year and Title race this season)

The season before that he bottled the Europa league semi final when he got taken to school by Emery.

The only clowns are the impatient fans who wanted Arteta sacked.

You know what I meant when I asked where Arsenal would be after Arteta. I’m not talking about the history of the club; I’m talking about the crisis the club were currently in.

It seems like I overestimated your intelligence. My bad.

Wenger was done and dusted by the end of his tenure. The team had no identity, no vision. Emery took over and he couldn’t implement a playing style, a system. It is not just about results; it is about how there was no process in place.

This is why Emery was sacked while the board persisted with Arteta and the intelligent fans knew that Arteta would take the team forward because it was obvious that he know what he is doing.

He slowly and gradually purged the deadwood from the squad and implemented a playing style. The process was clear.

Arsenal challenging for the title under Arteta was a certainty. The only question was when and Arteta is well ahead of schedule because no one expected Arsenal to mount a title challenge in 2022-23.

If you think Arteta has achieved nothing, you clearly don’t know anything about football but we know that already.

He took a dysfunctional, unorganized team with overpaid players and transformed the team into a vibrant, aggressive, athletic young team that will only get better and better.

Of course I love him - he is going toe to toe with Pep’s billion dollar team in the era of Pep-Klopp and United-Chelsea spending billions as well.

If Arteta was sacked last season Arsenal would be scrambling to 4th this season and nowhere near the title.

Thanks to Edu for giving Arteta a new deal in May 2022 when impatient and ignorant fans like you wanted him sacked. Arsenal fans will never forget this favor.
 
The only clowns are the impatient fans who wanted Arteta sacked.

You know what I meant when I asked where Arsenal would be after Arteta. I’m not talking about the history of the club; I’m talking about the crisis the club were currently in.

It seems like I overestimated your intelligence. My bad.

Wenger was done and dusted by the end of his tenure. The team had no identity, no vision. Emery took over and he couldn’t implement a playing style, a system. It is not just about results; it is about how there was no process in place.

This is why Emery was sacked while the board persisted with Arteta and the intelligent fans knew that Arteta would take the team forward because it was obvious that he know what he is doing.

He slowly and gradually purged the deadwood from the squad and implemented a playing style. The process was clear.

Arsenal challenging for the title under Arteta was a certainty. The only question was when and Arteta is well ahead of schedule because no one expected Arsenal to mount a title challenge in 2022-23.

If you think Arteta has achieved nothing, you clearly don’t know anything about football but we know that already.

He took a dysfunctional, unorganized team with overpaid players and transformed the team into a vibrant, aggressive, athletic young team that will only get better and better.

Of course I love him - he is going toe to toe with Pep’s billion dollar team in the era of Pep-Klopp and United-Chelsea spending billions as well.

If Arteta was sacked last season Arsenal would be scrambling to 4th this season and nowhere near the title.

Thanks to Edu for giving Arteta a new deal in May 2022 when impatient and ignorant fans like you wanted him sacked. Arsenal fans will never forget this favor.

More rambling and non-sense only clueless person here is you and your comedy predictions. Arteta has been exposed in last 3 games for having no plan B under pressure. Same thing as last season where his poor sqaud management cost team top 4.

Then before that he was tactically schooled by Emery in the Europa league, in return Arteta has shown hes clueless in europe and in other cup competitions as well.

Then just the usual re-worded same garbage telling other fans they know nothing about football when your the clown who has had egg on his face most of this season.
 
More rambling and non-sense only clueless person here is you and your comedy predictions. Arteta has been exposed in last 3 games for having no plan B under pressure. Same thing as last season where his poor sqaud management cost team top 4.

Then before that he was tactically schooled by Emery in the Europa league, in return Arteta has shown hes clueless in europe and in other cup competitions as well.

Then just the usual re-worded same garbage telling other fans they know nothing about football when you’re the clown who has had egg on his face most of this season.

The audacity. Oh my.

Is this a coping mechanism? Because we all know who had had eggs on their faces all season, that too rotten eggs. The Arteta Out crowd who thought he should have sacked last season because he will not take the team forward but here we are - he is going toe to toe with Pep’s Man City for the league title.

Imagine if someone would have told you in April 2022 that Arsenal would be in this position in April 2023. You would have never believed that person in a million years.

I get it - you are embarrassed because Arteta proved you wrong, but what you fail to realize is that you are only making things worse for yourself. Please stop digging for your own good.

It is hilarious how you are criticizing Arteta for messing up the last 3 games and losing leverage in the title race BUT you REFUSE to acknowledge the fact that Arteta is the reason WHY Arsenal are in the title race this season in the FIRST PLACE. :)))
 
The audacity. Oh my.

Is this a coping mechanism? Because we all know who had had eggs on their faces all season, that too rotten eggs. The Arteta Out crowd who thought he should have sacked last season because he will not take the team forward but here we are - he is going toe to toe with Pep’s Man City for the league title.

Imagine if someone would have told you in April 2022 that Arsenal would be in this position in April 2023. You would have never believed that person in a million years.

I get it - you are embarrassed because Arteta proved you wrong, but what you fail to realize is that you are only making things worse for yourself. Please stop digging for your own good.

It is hilarious how you are criticizing Arteta for messing up the last 3 games and losing leverage in the title race BUT you REFUSE to acknowledge the fact that Arteta is the reason WHY Arsenal are in the title race this season in the FIRST PLACE. :)))

Only person with egg on face is you as said title was in the bag, you ran like a coward and hide for 2 weeks last time Arsenal lost to everton, Brentford (draw) and city (loss)

you rant on like Mr know it all and when you get proven wrong you hide like the spineless coward and plastic fan that you are.
 
The audacity. Oh my.

Is this a coping mechanism? Because we all know who had had eggs on their faces all season, that too rotten eggs. The Arteta Out crowd who thought he should have sacked last season because he will not take the team forward but here we are - he is going toe to toe with Pep’s Man City for the league title.

Imagine if someone would have told you in April 2022 that Arsenal would be in this position in April 2023. You would have never believed that person in a million years.

I get it - you are embarrassed because Arteta proved you wrong, but what you fail to realize is that you are only making things worse for yourself. Please stop digging for your own good.

It is hilarious how you are criticizing Arteta for messing up the last 3 games and losing leverage in the title race BUT you REFUSE to acknowledge the fact that Arteta is the reason WHY Arsenal are in the title race this season in the FIRST PLACE. :)))

Rather then your wild fantasies of Arteta lets deal with facts.

You keep on going back to last year and keep trying to make out as though Arteta has just been in charge for a year and now hes performing miracles.

Lets deal with Facts

Arteta has been in charge for 3.5 years and has only just got the team into CL and into a title race. Yet you keep dancing around like there would be no other managers in world football that couldnt take Arsenal over and in 3.5 years transform them into a team which gets back in the CL.

Then you keep talking about the club was in crisis, the club finished 5th (1 point) of CL spots and got to Europa league season before Arteta took over. When Emery was sacked Arenal were only 6 points off top 4, so stop making out like the team was about to get relegate etc.. with you so called crisis.

Look at Eddie Howe at Newcastle he came into a team which was actually in the relegation zone and kept them up, then this season he has got them into top 4 this season in his 1st full season in charge. Thats what you call taking over a team in crisis

Howe has got CL football at 1st Attempt and Arteta has taken 3.5 years to do so...

Other managers like ETH have turned United fortunes around in a quicker time.

Your hold lame argument is oh Arsenal are in a title race after 3.5 years because of Arteta, no **** sherlock your stating obvious because hes the manager, plenty of others could have come in and done the same if given 500 M and 22 new players.

Your really are clueless, go seek some help because your fascination of Arteta is that of a stalker / psychotic individual.
 
If Arsenal don't win something next season, I think they need to move on from Arteta. I know he won the FA cup in his first season, but that was with Unai Emery's team. With his own team that he had assembled over the last 2-3 years, if they don't win anything next season, that would be four years without a trophy. Is that good enough for a team like Arsenal? I don't think it is.
 
If Arsenal don't win something next season, I think they need to move on from Arteta. I know he won the FA cup in his first season, but that was with Unai Emery's team. With his own team that he had assembled over the last 2-3 years, if they don't win anything next season, that would be four years without a trophy. Is that good enough for a team like Arsenal? I don't think it is.

100% spot on! sadly the club owners and the vast majority of Fan bases will use the loser mindset excuses that "the project" says we are behind schedule etc.. its just an easy way to not have any accountability at the club.
 
I think he's punched above his weight this season.

Surely nobody expected him to lead Arsenal to push Man City so much this season?
 
I think he's punched above his weight this season.

Surely nobody expected him to lead Arsenal to push Man City so much this season?

Where would you expect a manager to be after 3.5 years in charge of a big club? Should they not be in a title race?
 
100% spot on! sadly the club owners and the vast majority of Fan bases will use the loser mindset excuses that "the project" says we are behind schedule etc.. its just an easy way to not have any accountability at the club.

This concept of a long term project is complete nonsense and has no place in modern football. The most successful teams these days are those who expect instant success and if that isn't achieved, the manager is shown the door.
 
This concept of a long term project is complete nonsense and has no place in modern football. The most successful teams these days are those who expect instant success and if that isn't achieved, the manager is shown the door.

100% Agree again, this is the 3rd Time since Arsenal have tried a so called "youth project" since the moved to the emirates and they dress it up so that the excuse of "Young team" can be used it team fails, also means if they have to sell players there is a re-sale value. Clubs that act like you have mentioned have ambition and accountability, Arsenal dont act that way.

Look at Eddie Howe, hes taken Newcastle from relegation to Top 4 in 18 Months.

Look at ETH at united, United had their worst ever PL season and with a broken Sqaud hes got the team to 2 cup finals and got them top 4.

Arteta gets a free pass because fans use the execuse so called players werent good enough, fact are Aretat wasnt good enough to get best of what he had when he took over.

now certain plastic Arsenal are doing cartwheels because Arteta has got club into a title race after 3.5 years.
 
100% Agree again, this is the 3rd Time since Arsenal have tried a so called "youth project" since the moved to the emirates and they dress it up so that the excuse of "Young team" can be used it team fails, also means if they have to sell players there is a re-sale value. Clubs that act like you have mentioned have ambition and accountability, Arsenal dont act that way.

Look at Eddie Howe, hes taken Newcastle from relegation to Top 4 in 18 Months.

Look at ETH at united, United had their worst ever PL season and with a broken Sqaud hes got the team to 2 cup finals and got them top 4.

Arteta gets a free pass because fans use the execuse so called players werent good enough, fact are Aretat wasnt good enough to get best of what he had when he took over.

now certain plastic Arsenal are doing cartwheels because Arteta has got club into a title race after 3.5 years.

I remember when Arsenal tried the youth project with the likes of Adebayor, Nasri, Fabregas, Clichy, Van Persie in the early Emirates years. That youth project was a failure and eventually all of those players left for teams winning titles.

If Arsenal don’t win the title or champions league in the next 2-3 years, I do believe that there is a possibility that the current promising group of Arsenal players such as Saka, Odegaurd, Martinelli, Saliba might start to consider their future at Arsenal.
 
If this group of players are going to win the title, will have to be this season. I'm not sure they will be able to go again with the same intensity after running out of steam two seasons in a row. There'll come a point where they will lose belief in themselves to deliver when push comes to shove.
 
I remember when Arsenal tried the youth project with the likes of Adebayor, Nasri, Fabregas, Clichy, Van Persie in the early Emirates years. That youth project was a failure and eventually all of those players left for teams winning titles.

If Arsenal don’t win the title or champions league in the next 2-3 years, I do believe that there is a possibility that the current promising group of Arsenal players such as Saka, Odegaurd, Martinelli, Saliba might start to consider their future at Arsenal.

The also did youth project with Walcott, ox, Ramsey, Jenkinson, Wilshire which also failed, the club knows it can hide behind "young team" excuse when it fails and players are just sold.

Current manager has had his pants taken down 3 times in europa league and been humiliated, Arsenal ain't winning no CL any time soon.
 
If this group of players are going to win the title, will have to be this season. I'm not sure they will be able to go again with the same intensity after running out of steam two seasons in a row. There'll come a point where they will lose belief in themselves to deliver when push comes to shove.

Excellent points made
 
The cone distribution fraud has taken club as far as he can. Time to get a proper proven manager in.

Same clueless team selections and no plan B.

Plenty of better managers out there.

Arteta out
 
When I was a kid I was mesmerized by the Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Vieira, Cole, Ljungberg side. That bunch eventually went into folklore as invincible. Wenger's philosophy of playing beautiful football at the cost of the result continued to remain a draw years later, when retaining a top-4 spot became the main goal. Fabregas then became my reason to keep following them and Arshavin briefly excited.

As an Indian living in India, there was no allegiance thing and it was just the style of play that kept me interested. Then Henry left and once Fabregas was gone, I shifted to his new team Barcelona and discovered Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Busquets.

Arsenal weren't that beautiful to watch anymore, but out of nostalgia, I'd follow them cursorily. I slowly learnt to not get my hopes high anymore if they were great, the first half of a season, because they would inevitably choke, the 2nd half.

Arteta came in as a player and to me always seemed like a very poor man's Fabregas. And not just his appearance. He seemed like a nice guy but was extremely mediocre. And by then, I had kind of stopped following them.

Occasionally, I'll hear something great happening with Arsenal, but I am now detached and watch them almost bemusedly.

There is no way I see Arsenal winning with Arteta as coach. But he will obviously stay since Arsenal under him have seen a resurgence. But they'll always be also-rans.
 
He’s earned another season tbf.

Clearly needs another CB, one more Midfielder and a Proper 30+goals CF

The budget for these 3 players needs to be £400m
 
I know moving from Tottenham to Arsenal is extremely distasteful from a north london fans perspective but United are the ones always making sure they do the business properly whereas Arsenal are always behind in transfers

You need a proper striker who carries a threat, and Harry Kane is available! Go out and get him before United do!
 
When I was a kid I was mesmerized by the Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Vieira, Cole, Ljungberg side. That bunch eventually went into folklore as invincible. Wenger's philosophy of playing beautiful football at the cost of the result continued to remain a draw years later, when retaining a top-4 spot became the main goal. Fabregas then became my reason to keep following them and Arshavin briefly excited.

As an Indian living in India, there was no allegiance thing and it was just the style of play that kept me interested. Then Henry left and once Fabregas was gone, I shifted to his new team Barcelona and discovered Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Busquets.

Arsenal weren't that beautiful to watch anymore, but out of nostalgia, I'd follow them cursorily. I slowly learnt to not get my hopes high anymore if they were great, the first half of a season, because they would inevitably choke, the 2nd half.

Arteta came in as a player and to me always seemed like a very poor man's Fabregas. And not just his appearance. He seemed like a nice guy but was extremely mediocre. And by then, I had kind of stopped following them.

Occasionally, I'll hear something great happening with Arsenal, but I am now detached and watch them almost bemusedly.

There is no way I see Arsenal winning with Arteta as coach. But he will obviously stay since Arsenal under him have seen a resurgence. But they'll always be also-rans.

The day Arsenal replaced cesc and nasri with Arteta and benayoun is when they stop being ambitious.

As a manager Arteta is on a par with lampard, Gerrard and ole
 
He’s earned another season tbf.

Clearly needs another CB, one more Midfielder and a Proper 30+goals CF

The budget for these 3 players needs to be £400m

We need 2 midfields. Upgrade on xhaka and also partey needs to be phased out as well slowly, he's been trash this year.

Also oddegard needs to be stripped of the captaincy
 
Jesus at best is a 2nd striker like Chicharito was to Rooney. He wasn’t happy with this role at City but you can clearly see why they wouldn’t trust him as their main CF

After 6 years we will be back in the Champions league and we can compete long as we get a high class finisher+aerial threat
 
We need 2 midfields. Upgrade on xhaka and also partey needs to be phased out as well slowly, he's been trash this year.

Also oddegard needs to be stripped of the captaincy

Whoever we get bro, they can’t be bargain hunt players

Go out and get the finished articles. We have no excuse now.

-The money is there
-Champions league is on offer
-Life in london (particularly north london) is on offer

We need a player of peak Suarez quality
 
When I was a kid I was mesmerized by the Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Vieira, Cole, Ljungberg side. That bunch eventually went into folklore as invincible. Wenger's philosophy of playing beautiful football at the cost of the result continued to remain a draw years later, when retaining a top-4 spot became the main goal. Fabregas then became my reason to keep following them and Arshavin briefly excited.

As an Indian living in India, there was no allegiance thing and it was just the style of play that kept me interested. Then Henry left and once Fabregas was gone, I shifted to his new team Barcelona and discovered Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Pedro, Busquets.

Arsenal weren't that beautiful to watch anymore, but out of nostalgia, I'd follow them cursorily. I slowly learnt to not get my hopes high anymore if they were great, the first half of a season, because they would inevitably choke, the 2nd half.

Arteta came in as a player and to me always seemed like a very poor man's Fabregas. And not just his appearance. He seemed like a nice guy but was extremely mediocre. And by then, I had kind of stopped following them.

Occasionally, I'll hear something great happening with Arsenal, but I am now detached and watch them almost bemusedly.

There is no way I see Arsenal winning with Arteta as coach. But he will obviously stay since Arsenal under him have seen a resurgence. But they'll always be also-rans.

Good post

Arteta does hold a Misbah’ish presence for Arsenal the way Misbah does for Pakistan

Misbah was also a poor man’s Inzimam-ul-Haq and Arteta indeed was a poor man’s Fabregas. I don’t think Arteta was ever in Spain’s plans as long as they had the quality of Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets and Fabregas. That being said Arteta wasn’t exactly the worst player either. He had a good game understanding and a gifted right foot+set piece delivery
 
Whoever we get bro, they can’t be bargain hunt players

Go out and get the finished articles. We have no excuse now.

-The money is there
-Champions league is on offer
-Life in london (particularly north london) is on offer

We need a player of peak Suarez quality

You expect Edu and Arteta do get this big deals done?
 
Give him another season or two, I can’t recall when Arsenal last competed for the title this way
 
Give him another season or two, I can’t recall when Arsenal last competed for the title this way

Agreed man. In a world where managers are being sacked left right and centre for a string of poor performances, this guy has done tremendously well to keep Arsenal at the top for 33 games out of 38

Respect
 
Jesus at best is a 2nd striker like Chicharito was to Rooney. He wasn’t happy with this role at City but you can clearly see why they wouldn’t trust him as their main CF

After 6 years we will be back in the Champions league and we can compete long as we get a high class finisher+aerial threat

Whoever we get bro, they can’t be bargain hunt players

Go out and get the finished articles. We have no excuse now.

-The money is there
-Champions league is on offer
-Life in london (particularly north london) is on offer

We need a player of peak Suarez quality

Alvarez at City could be a good shout, some player but not going to dislodge Haaland while he's still there. But this could upset Jesus as he also came from there lol.
 
Alvarez at City could be a good shout, some player but not going to dislodge Haaland while he's still there. But this could upset Jesus as he also came from there lol.

Bro we need a king pin at his club with CL experience, not the second striker of any elite club. Getting a second striker is not really an improvement on Jesus

I’ve only really been following Arsenal in football recently and not paid much attention to what’s been going on in Europe but will have to scour through the leagues to identify who we can target.
 
Give him another season or two, I can’t recall when Arsenal last competed for the title this way

3.5 years just to make top 4 🤣🤦*♂️ and he should be kept.

When managers like Eddie howe, Emery, ETH have gone into clubs and improved supposed broken teams straight away.
 
I seem to recall when Wenger was around he would routinely get us into the CL and we were happy with it until he did that. Arteta has brought us into CL after a long time - that is an achievement in itself.
 
3.5 years just to make top 4 🤣🤦*♂️ and he should be kept.

When managers like Eddie howe, Emery, ETH have gone into clubs and improved supposed broken teams straight away.

Unai is an anomaly and am going to reserve complete judgement until next season mate, also I’d kill to be in your position, look how long it has been since we had any sort of European footy, let alone the CL.

I take your point, he has been there a while. But you’ve invested in him for so long that it seems odd that you should fire him after ending the season as runners up against a beastly City team, if it was a couple of seasons ago or something I’d get it. You backed him when in the dumps, why now? Can you recall any manager who has been fired after finishing second in the PL, am not sure there are many
 
Agreed man. In a world where managers are being sacked left right and centre for a string of poor performances, this guy has done tremendously well to keep Arsenal at the top for 33 games out of 38

Respect

Yes it has been a breath of fresh air how Arsenal have supported him
 
Unai is an anomaly and am going to reserve complete judgement until next season mate, also I’d kill to be in your position, look how long it has been since we had any sort of European footy, let alone the CL.

I take your point, he has been there a while. But you’ve invested in him for so long that it seems odd that you should fire him after ending the season as runners up against a beastly City team, if it was a couple of seasons ago or something I’d get it. You backed him when in the dumps, why now? Can you recall any manager who has been fired after finishing second in the PL, am not sure there are many

Also when Arteta was appointed manager we had a squad of over hyped players on huge salaries.
Not a single one of those players is now in the Arsenal First team.

It took 18 to 24 months just to get to where we are now.

Of course, some can chose to take the word of fans like Rana but I prefer to listen to the experts who all believe that Arsenal are way ahead of schedule.

Yes we want to see continuous progression and we'll know if that is the case after the next season has started.
 
Also when Arteta was appointed manager we had a squad of over hyped players on huge salaries.
Not a single one of those players is now in the Arsenal First team.

It took 18 to 24 months just to get to where we are now.

Of course, some can chose to take the word of fans like Rana but I prefer to listen to the experts who all believe that Arsenal are way ahead of schedule.

Yes we want to see continuous progression and we'll know if that is the case after the next season has started.

What is your issue with me man? Do you really want me to drive your soft little heart out of here? I can
 
I seem to recall when Wenger was around he would routinely get us into the CL and we were happy with it until he did that. Arteta has brought us into CL after a long time - that is an achievement in itself.

Getting into CL ain't a trophy? What fans were happy with that?

The club lost its ambition after 2010. Eventually wenger was got rid off and fans turned on him because of no ambition.

Oh so the process which is now 3.5 years was to make CL was it? A trophy we ain't going to win.

Loser mentality
 
I know moving from Tottenham to Arsenal is extremely distasteful from a north london fans perspective but United are the ones always making sure they do the business properly whereas Arsenal are always behind in transfers

You need a proper striker who carries a threat, and Harry Kane is available! Go out and get him before United do!
United always do the business properly. Oh dear :)))
 
What is your issue with me man? Do you really want me to drive your soft little heart out of here? I can

Because the arguments are devoid of any logic.
Why not counter to what I said?

It's the same issue on the cricket thread
Rizwan is awful, yes we know your views
But not once has anyone, including yourself, have countered the average Vs Strike rate argument.
So it's just continuous expression of hate towards certain people.

The point is you have to change someone's views using logic otherwise it's just the same negativity without any real explanation.

On topic, what do you have to say about the squad that Arteta inherited and the tangible change in the way we play or the fact that we have the second youngest squad in the league?
Why ignore every single expert who thinks we're ahead of schedule?

Finally, yes please do drive me out of here...
If you can help me on my addiction to PP then I will be forever grateful
 
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i was willing out of respect for length of time we have both been on here to give you benefit of the doubt. But you really are talking nonsense.

So let address you nonsense that you have written.

Last start with facts.

- Arteta has been in charge 3.5 years (so let's cut the nonsense about last 18-24 months) your making out as they his 1st 18 months at club don't count.

Your next excuse was the players he had. Same players got 70 points and finished 5th (1 point of CL spots) under Emery, got to a europa league and league Cup final. Same players helped Arteta win an FA Cup. So let's dismiss you first lame excuse.

Next you keep on harping on about about a squad of over hyped players? These players managed to get more PL points in a season (70) then Arteta did in his 1st 2.5 years, so again your excuse is a load of nonsense.

Tierney, holdings, Nelson, nketitah, xhaka. Martinelli, saka, ESR, (saliba out on loan) are all players he inherited, he's signed 21 players spending 500M that's more than enough time to build a squad. Yet your excuse is one more year.

Finally according "to the schedule" and "project"

- After 2.5 years Arsenal were not expected to make top 4 (last season)

- After 3.5 years Arsenal were not expected to challenge for a title (this season,)

Show me the proof of this schedule and project that you keep referring to? Have you got documented proof? Have you spoken to the kronkes? Arteta? Who ate these experts that have shown evidence of what the club's targets are?

Facts - go watch the edu interview from the summer (link below) and see what he says 5:14

"Even being realistic it is to win things"

https://youtu.be/Mzbcv4KEEgI

Then have a look at at his interview in January. Where he just rambles on with no conviction when asked about the title. "Saying the club does talk about titles"

https://youtu.be/Mzbcv4KEEgI

It's not more then PR nonsense and having no ambition.
 
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