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Babar was out of equation when India crossed 250350 was out of question once Babar failed but Fakhar inns by any standard was abysmal.
Ifti and Salman should use this as an opportunity and make a score. Result wise nothing to get from this game but if they can get some confidence atleast can salvage something.
bruv we are not even taking this game seriouslyStill Pakistan fan's are think we would have won the last game .lol
Simple logic flies over their heads.yes. that game was different this is different
As for people complaining about saud's strike rate or abdullah's lack of form in odi,Everyone here is once again critising for the sake of critising. How many times do I have to repeat myself, pak trio is amazing but they won't perform in every match.
They aren't the problem, the problem is if they fail, we don't have anyone to compliment them, and if the succeed, very likely the other bowlers will just put pressure on then as they'll allow teams to recover.
Shadab, ifti, agha, Nawaz, faheem, these lads are terrible bowlers lol.
As for our imam and Babar, their fine, they ain't the issue, Imam is a good player but he can only function if the other person is functioning, in the past falhar was in form so imam anchored while fakhar struck, they complimented each other well, but thats not the case anymore. And Babar while a good player is not a pressure performing player.
The issue is fakhar at the top, rizwan at no 4 and a horrible middle order in general.
And the funny thing is, it's not like pakistan doesn't have options, We have plenty upon plenty of options but we aren't utilising them for these bits and pieces players.
Why isn't Abdullah opening? He's aggressive, steady and can become an ATG, he's also our best Opener of test and he found his form and rhythm back in Sri Lanka series unlike fakhar who lost it.
Why isn't saud, a genuine middle order no 4 playing? People are forgetting we won the Sri lanka test series because of these 2. Imam, Babar were hilariously bad during that series lol and would have lost us that game.
Why isn't tayyab a genuine middle order at no 5 playing?
Why isn't haris a genuine no 7 playing? Why isn't imad waseem a genuine allrounder playing while shadab a bits and pieces lad is?
Where is abrar? A genuine spinner who has been our best test bowler for a while and deserves a list A call up?
Why isn't ihsanullah or zaman Khan or arshad iqbal or genuine pacers our 4th pacer isn't of faheem?
What about side options like saim ayub? Who while raw could be given a go? 20 as good an age as any?
That's the problem with the side, We have so many options, but we keep playing a plethora of bits and pieces players for no reason?
Yes haris, Saim is raw, Saud is raw for odi, So is Abdullah and tayyab, but that's how you groom a player, but having them play constantly for their country, not shelving them as water boys and occasionally bringing them in.
Our whole team is dependant on Babar and imam performing or our bowling trio doing the work for us, if they fail which they will in some games, Game over.
India however have options, if rohit and kohli fails, ishan or pandya can recover, Gill cam also chip in.
Same with their bowlers, Kudleep and Hardick can cover if bumrah or siraj tend to have an off day. It's the same with England and Australia. They aren't dependant on only 2 batsmen and 3 bowlers in their team to do their work for them.
Waste of a spot. Fake all rounder who gives illusions of balance, actually he destroys the balance.Jadeja bowls gun barrel straight.
no, i would rather lose y 200 runs than have a match fixer representing pakistanIf you are a Pakistani fan, why can't you have Mo Amir as a 4th bowler in the playing XI? He is 10 times the bowler that Faheem his and can lauch a few sixes like Faheem coming in at No.11. He may not be as as good as Faheem the batter, but Faheem is mediocre batsman anyways. He is not an all rounder.
Imagine an attack of Shaheen, Amir, Naseem and Rauf. That is as deadly as it gets.
Pakistan generally underperforms when they have favorites tag. Psychologically they find it much easier as underdogs, so maybe these kind of losses will help them do well in tournaments.
For the same stupid reason why India doesn’t play ShamiIf you are a Pakistani fan, why can't you have Mo Amir as a 4th bowler in the playing XI? He is 10 times the bowler that Faheem his and can lauch a few sixes like Faheem coming in at No.11. He may not be as as good as Faheem the batter, but Faheem is mediocre batsman anyways. He is not an all rounder.
Imagine an attack of Shaheen, Amir, Naseem and Rauf. That is as deadly as it gets.
He has retired and is not playing List A , how will he be selected ? You need to play first to show your fitness for that format.If you are a Pakistani fan, why can't you have Mo Amir as a 4th bowler in the playing XI? He is 10 times the bowler that Faheem his and can lauch a few sixes like Faheem coming in at No.11. He may not be as as good as Faheem the batter, but Faheem is mediocre batsman anyways. He is not an all rounder.
Imagine an attack of Shaheen, Amir, Naseem and Rauf. That is as deadly as it gets.
If you are a Pakistani fan, why can't you have Mo Amir as a 4th bowler in the playing XI? He is 10 times the bowler that Faheem his and can lauch a few sixes like Faheem coming in at No.11. He may not be as as good as Faheem the batter, but Faheem is mediocre batsman anyways. He is not an all rounder.
Imagine an attack of Shaheen, Amir, Naseem and Rauf. That is as deadly as it gets.
It will always be CT 17 or 92 WC for the Pakistani fans.Champions Trophy 2017 Game 1 vs India...
and we all know what happend
Bhai it's a different game when a team chases 260 odd. 350+ score is beyond Pak batsmens reach. They know it. They feel comfortable when it's around 250Still Pakistan fan's are think we would have won the last game .lol
Cmon ! He has already paid for his sinsno, i would rather lose y 200 runs than have a match fixer representing pakistan
The cornered tiger spirit.Yes.
When people label them as favorites, they tend to self-implode.
They do well when they are vulnerable (underdogs).
Out of form? Till the win against Bangladesh, Pakistan was being touted as the most inform team of the tournament by former so called legends on various Pakistani TV channels.Another Parchi is gone!!! Looks like Pakistan will play same team on 14 with half fit and out of form players
That pitch was perfect for Pacers than this .just sink hereyes. that game was different this is different
Please can we stop mentioning Amir. He isn't interested. He hasn't bowled a competitive ball in YEARS.If you are a Pakistani fan, why can't you have Mo Amir as a 4th bowler in the playing XI? He is 10 times the bowler that Faheem his and can lauch a few sixes like Faheem coming in at No.11. He may not be as as good as Faheem the batter, but Faheem is mediocre batsman anyways. He is not an all rounder.
Imagine an attack of Shaheen, Amir, Naseem and Rauf. That is as deadly as it gets.
In his place we should play a proper batsman as our batting is really thin.Waste of a spot. Fake all rounder who gives illusions of balance, actually he destroys the balance.
Yeah he's not difficult to play against kuldeep is the main strike spin bowlerJadeja bowls gun barrel straight.
And we don't play a batsman with some part time spin to accomodate this fraud.Jadeja bowls gun barrel straight.
Play full overs is the goal from 1st ballrrr above 10.. bhai what is pakistans goal hereee
He was bowled well in PSL whenever I saw him. The man still got it in him.Please can we stop mentioning Amir. He isn't interested. He hasn't bowled a competitive ball in YEARS.
I meant don't want Shaheen gets injuryWhat do you mean? We have lost Shaheen too.
He got injured in the very second over.
Did not know he retired.He has retired and is not playing List A , how will he be selected ? You need to play first to show your fitness for that format.
We are wasting a spot on this fraud who contributes nothing in field in LoIs except for may be fielding.And we don't play a batsman with some part time spin to accomodate this fraud.
But will Pakistan learn or has the mental strength and capacity to make tough decisions even if that means leaving Shadab or Fakhar out?We were overconfident before this game so this might level us before the tournament.
This game has done a superb job of identifying and exploiting our weaknesses to the absolute max.
Credit to India for beating us so badly.
He already got injured. He played through injury this game. Don't think he will be fit to play next game.I meant don't want Shaheen gets injury
What a fraud it was to play that useless Chahal in Kuldeep's place.Kuldeep is a magician, every ball is an event with him.
Very true, atleast ODIs pakistan is keeping faith on wrong options. Bits and pieces players can be helpfull in t20s but not in a 50 over game. Out of shadab, nawaz, ifti, faheem and agha, both ifti and agha are part timers as a bowler and good enough to bat at number 6. Shadab, nawaz and fahim as a bowler can be just good at maximum in helpfull conditions but horrible on a flat deck. They need to find out a specialist genuine spinner and specialist batsmans at number 4 and 5.Everyone here is once again critising for the sake of critising. How many times do I have to repeat myself, pak trio is amazing but they won't perform in every match.
They aren't the problem, the problem is if they fail, we don't have anyone to compliment them, and if the succeed, very likely the other bowlers will just put pressure on then as they'll allow teams to recover.
Shadab, ifti, agha, Nawaz, faheem, these lads are terrible bowlers lol.
As for our imam and Babar, their fine, they ain't the issue, Imam is a good player but he can only function if the other person is functioning, in the past falhar was in form so imam anchored while fakhar struck, they complimented each other well, but thats not the case anymore. And Babar while a good player is not a pressure performing player.
The issue is fakhar at the top, rizwan at no 4 and a horrible middle order in general.
And the funny thing is, it's not like pakistan doesn't have options, We have plenty upon plenty of options but we aren't utilising them for these bits and pieces players.
Why isn't Abdullah opening? He's aggressive, steady and can become an ATG, he's also our best Opener of test and he found his form and rhythm back in Sri Lanka series unlike fakhar who lost it.
Why isn't saud, a genuine middle order no 4 playing? People are forgetting we won the Sri lanka test series because of these 2. Imam, Babar were hilariously bad during that series lol and would have lost us that game.
Why isn't tayyab a genuine middle order at no 5 playing?
Why isn't haris a genuine no 7 playing? Why isn't imad waseem a genuine allrounder playing while shadab a bits and pieces lad is?
Where is abrar? A genuine spinner who has been our best test bowler for a while and deserves a list A call up?
Why isn't ihsanullah or zaman Khan or arshad iqbal or genuine pacers our 4th pacer isn't of faheem?
What about side options like saim ayub? Who while raw could be given a go? 20 as good an age as any?
That's the problem with the side, We have so many options, but we keep playing a plethora of bits and pieces players for no reason?
Yes haris, Saim is raw, Saud is raw for odi, So is Abdullah and tayyab, but that's how you groom a player, but having them play constantly for their country, not shelving them as water boys and occasionally bringing them in.
Our whole team is dependant on Babar and imam performing or our bowling trio doing the work for us, if they fail which they will in some games, Game over.
India however have options, if rohit and kohli fails, ishan or pandya can recover, Gill cam also chip in.
Same with their bowlers, Kudleep and Hardick can cover if bumrah or siraj tend to have an off day. It's the same with England and Australia. They aren't dependant on only 2 batsmen and 3 bowlers in their team to do their work for them.
That is a different format , he himself not interested in Test or OD , he only interested in playing league games.He was bowled well in PSL whenever I saw him. The man still got it in him.
This ain’t a number 1 team if you reallly know. Good team but aren’t playing nor beating other good, quality teams regularly.
Who are your genuine short term alternatives to Shadab?Shadab is also playing on the basis of his batting , which is not good , you need to have genuine bowlers , otherwise you will get exposed against quality teams.
Wait till we get back to India . On wickets like Chennai , he will be unplayableJadeja is weak link in our bowling attack .
Pakistan refuse to learn from mistakes.Very true, atleast ODIs pakistan is keeping faith on wrong options. Bits and pieces players can be helpfull in t20s but not in a 50 over game. Out of shadab, nawaz, ifti, faheem and agha, both ifti and agha are part timers as a bowler and good enough to bat at number 6. Shadab, nawaz and fahim as a bowler can be just good at maximum in helpfull conditions but horrible on a flat deck. They need to find out a specialist genuine spinner and specialist batsmans at number 4 and 5.
Net run rate is important factor for reaching in the Finalrrr above 10.. bhai what is pakistans goal hereee
Shadab has been playing for long time now , after 2019 how many specialist spinners Pakistan has tried ?Who are your genuine short term alternatives to Shadab?
What was my question and what is your answer?Shadab has been playing for long time now , after 2019 how many specialist spinners Pakistan has tried ?
Far fetchedI think Pakistan is forcing India to bowl all 50 overs because India has a game tomr, and they want to get them an injury or fitness issue..
Both jadeja thakur if you think likes of Australia new zealand England who plays them regularly in ipl games will milk them for runsJadeja is weak link in our bowling attack .
He is deluded despite being part of the coaching setup over the years.Waqar calling Pakistan number 1 team in world. Are they?
i always thought u were india and your name meant uttar pradeshThis encounter reminds me of 2017 CT. We got butchered by India in group stage and we butchered them back in a final.
I think Waqar was being sarcastic there.He is deluded despite being part of the coaching setup over the years.