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Australia [284 & 487/7d] beat England [374 & 146] by 251 runs in the 1st Ashes Test, lead series 1-0

A very sad day. Australia were extremely lucky with Anderson’s injury which completely changes the complexion of this game.

He wouldn’t have allowed Australia to add over 150+ with the last two wickets in the first innings or to score 450+ in the second innings.

The Edgbaston fortress had to be breached in bizzare circumstances.

England needs to forget this fluke defeat and treat this as a 4 match series. At full-strength, they are still better than this average Australian riding on Smith’s coat-tail.

They also need to accommodate Archer in the lineup because he would have compensated for Anderson’s injury here.

So only reason Aussies are dominating because of Andersons injury? Look how pathetic englands batting is, exposed here and against ireland. Aussies are an average test side but so are england.
 
Pretty poor from England.

Still don't believe this is a terrible 5th day pitch. They have shown no application.

None of the dismissals were really down to the pitch...apart from maybe Buttler.
 
Buttler will never be a test class batsman, doesn't have the technique nor mental fortitude. Horrible footwork for that dismissal.

exactly, you cannot pick odi, t20 batsmen for tests.

someone with a fc average around 30 will most likely not be that successful in test cricket.
 
So only reason Aussies are dominating because of Andersons injury? Look how pathetic englands batting is, exposed here and against ireland. Aussies are an average test side but so are england.

even travis head is a better test batsman than denly butler and roy combined. the 3 are good enough for a county side, not a test team.
 
with almost 5 wickets per match, thats amazing. wonder if bumrah or shaheen can achieve this in a year or two

Shaheen still needs to improve a lot as a test bowler though he has all the potential to achieve big things. We also have to remember home ground which he has is dead UAE wickets so unless he kept mainly for overseas tests he will struggle to go at 5 wickets a match if he plays in UAE tests regularly.

Bumrah on the other hand while is already an accomplished test bowler we have to take into account the fact that he hasnt played much tests (If any) in India and I am not sure how will he do in tests where spinners will be dominating. Again it would be difficult for him to go at Cummins rate if he plays in India because Cummins does play in pacers favoring home conditions more often than not and team and player a major part of his test cricket in home grounds.
 
pattinson has been off this innings. he still deserves another chance next test

still dont think starc or hazlewood will come in the next test

when aus wins, justin langer, does not change the team, only chance for those two to come is if aus lose next test or if there is an injury
 
Pattinson SMASHED out of the attack, Aussies running scared from the mighty Chris Woakes! :afridi
 
how does Anderson's absence explain the shocking batting displays by England?

Anderson would have scored a double hundred in 2nd inns with bat. Also taken 10 wickets in 2nd inns. Thats sort of thinking mamoon has.
 
even travis head is a better test batsman than denly butler and roy combined. the 3 are good enough for a county side, not a test team.

Apart from root, no one else can be considered a test batsmen..there all essential odi or t20 players wearing whites
 
Two more right decisions from Joel Wilson in the last over. I hope Woakes and Ali can stay till tea, then I can believe England will hold on
 
Shaheen still needs to improve a lot as a test bowler though he has all the potential to achieve big things. We also have to remember home ground which he has is dead UAE wickets so unless he kept mainly for overseas tests he will struggle to go at 5 wickets a match if he plays in UAE tests regularly.

Bumrah on the other hand while is already an accomplished test bowler we have to take into account the fact that he hasnt played much tests (If any) in India and I am not sure how will he do in tests where spinners will be dominating. Again it would be difficult for him to go at Cummins rate if he plays in India because Cummins does play in pacers favoring home conditions more often than not and team and player a major part of his test cricket in home grounds.

what is strange is that cummins actually performed better against india in india then at home.
he got 8 wickets in 2 tests( 1.5 test, he did not bowl in second innings in ranchi ) in india

was pretty bad at home vs india besides a 6 wicket haul in melbourne.

if you exclude that, he had 8 wickets in 3 tests
 
Apart from root, no one else can be considered a test batsmen..there all essential odi or t20 players wearing whites

Burns to an extent as well as he has been selected based upon his FC performances.

While I agree most of them have better limited overs credentials but then there arent many good test batsmen playing in Eng county cricket to write home about. Balance, Jennings, Westley, Stoneman, Robinson etc have all been tried and I dont thing there is any upcoming talented FC player as well who has performed to merit a test place.
 
what is strange is that cummins actually performed better against india in india then at home.
he got 8 wickets in 2 tests( 1.5 test, he did not bowl in second innings in ranchi ) in india

was pretty bad at home vs india besides a 6 wicket haul in melbourne.

if you exclude that, he had 8 wickets in 3 tests

True but its a pretty small sample size to judge anyone's credentials in sub continental conditions which are very demanding to play regular cricket as a pacer.
 
Burns to an extent as well as he has been selected based upon his FC performances.

While I agree most of them have better limited overs credentials but then there arent many good test batsmen playing in Eng county cricket to write home about. Balance, Jennings, Westley, Stoneman, Robinson etc have all been tried and I dont thing there is any upcoming talented FC player as well who has performed to merit a test place.

ollie pope looked good from the little of what i saw of him. joe clarke is another good young batsman

liam livingstone is another who has not been tried out, he has a good record

the problem with eng selectors is they give more chances to butler in test cricket compared to other first class batman, who have a much better average than butler. they feel butler an jason roy have more potential
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lyon bowled extremely well this test</p>— Jofra Archer (@JofraArcher) <a href="https://twitter.com/JofraArcher/status/543639800331644928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Baba Archer.

:)))

This guy is a fortune-reader.
 
Can Anderson hang on long enough for Woakes to get a match winni g double century
 
ollie pope looked good from the little of what i saw of him. joe clarke is another good young batsman

liam livingstone is another who has not been tried out, he has a good record

the problem with eng selectors is they give more chances to butler in test cricket compared to other first class batman, who have a much better average than butler. they feel butler an jason roy have more potential

While Roy and Buttler might not be technically as correct as the ones you have mentioned but they have the temperament to rise according to occasion which is why they are being preferred along with the reason that regular FC performers like Stoneman, Robinson, Ballance failed to replicate that in test cricket.

Buttler was the reason Pak didnt won the series in Eng 2-0 rather had to settle with a draw 1-1.

Ollie Pope is definitely a talented young batsman along with Joe Clarke. Livingstone should have been given a go alomost a year ago however it is pertinent to mention that he too doesnt have a very solid technique.
 
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It might just be a rare incident in any sport with a player before playing for his national team has got comment for almost every occasion related to that sport and those statements keep on repeating themselves like deja vu. :smith
 
True but its a pretty small sample size to judge anyone's credentials in sub continental conditions which are very demanding to play regular cricket as a pacer.



cummins went on to get 7 wickets in 2 tests in bangladesh, that does not seem special, but those pitches were absolutely dead and even more spin friendly than the pitches in india

compared to the rest of the foreign fast bowlers, he has been the best in recent years in the subcontinent

but yes, this obviously this does not compare to an asian pacer who has to constantly bowl on pitches not friendly to seamers
but abbas bowled better in uae against australia than his tour to south africa or england
 
Lol no he was taking about Australia vs India Adelaide test, which played between 9-13 December.

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England are fragile mentally, Anderson wouldn't have made a difference they always fold in the 4th innings regardless.
 
how does Anderson's absence explain the shocking batting displays by England?

So only reason Aussies are dominating because of Andersons injury? Look how pathetic englands batting is, exposed here and against ireland. Aussies are an average test side but so are england.

We need to put their batting into perspective. In spite of Australia exploiting Anderson’s injury and scoring 284 in the first innings, England lead of 90 runs was more than good enough to win them the game.

However, they bowled like headless chickens without their talisman in the second innings. England didn’t have a chance to survive today against Lyon. No lineup would have.
 
only 2 bowlers are the sole wicket takers, the two best test bowlers

paine could have given cummins a 5 fer as well by bowling him more
 
We need to put their batting into perspective. In spite of Australia exploiting Anderson’s injury and scoring 284 in the first innings, England lead of 90 runs was more than good enough to win them the game.

However, they bowled like headless chickens without their talisman in the second innings. England didn’t have a chance to survive today against Lyon. No lineup would have.

The perspective of englands batting is that its pretty poor, yes england bat all way down order but its littered with limited overs batsmen parading as so called test batsmen.

2 tests this summer and englands batting as been woeful.

Also at somepoint england will have to do without anderson and broad, woods always injured, so its time other bowlers set up.

England should be worried on that front. Add to that denly doesnt look like a middle order batsmen. Roy at 4 would maybe better.

Aussies had a 4 man attack which as a unit wasnt great but they won game and could call up others into the team.
 
Seems like Anderson has remained NOT Out for most no. Of times (86). Still his teammates never trusts his batting.
 
The WC was the biggest fluke in the history of world cricket.
 
I said these guys wouldn’t get 180 in the last dig. No stickability.
 
Seems like Anderson has remained NOT Out for most no. Of times (86). Still his teammates never trusts his batting.
They trusted him enough to send him in as night watchman dozens of times.
 
Australia [284 & 487/7d] beat England [374 & 146] by 251 runs in the 1st Ashes Test, lead series 1-0

One of the very best comebacks ever made in Test cricket! Being 122 for eight down, to have won the match by 251 runs is an unbelievable effort. Smith has really scripted one of the Ashes history´s most memorable victories. As for the last innings, I think we all knew that Lyon could be the man to make the difference, and for Australia he did.

I don´t think too many experts were expecting this from Australia on the English soil. A great effort. A proud effort. Good for the game, good for the series I suppose.
 
England surrendered on the final day of the first Ashes Test, giving Australia a crushing 251-run win and a 1-0 lead in the series.

Needing to bat out the day to earn a draw - chasing 398 to win was never in the offing - England at one stage lost six wickets for 37 runs on the way to being bowled out for 146 at Edgbaston.

Off-spinner Nathan Lyon took advantage of the worn pitch to claim 6-49, while paceman Pat Cummins picked up 4-32 as the tourists surged to victory just before tea.

It puts them ahead in an Ashes series in the UK for the first time in 14 years.

England can rightly point to the fact they have been without pace bowler James Anderson for almost the whole game - he pulled up with a recurrence of a calf injury after bowling only four overs on the first morning.

However, the wisdom of selecting Anderson in the first place can be questioned, while the hosts will also rue a collapse of 4-18 on the third morning, some curious tactics on the fourth day and an awful shot by Jason Roy that began the final-day slump from 60-1.

In truth, though, this match will be remembered for the brilliance of Australia batsman Steve Smith, whose twin centuries rescued his side from 122-8 in the first innings and again from a deficit of 15 runs when three wickets down in the second.

England have their own problems to address before the second Test at Lord's begins next Wednesday, but none are as big as what to do about Smith.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/49236251
 
James Anderson passed "every fitness test" before aggravating his calf problem in a "freak" scenario on the opening day of the first Ashes Test, says England captain Joe Root.

Anderson hurt his calf before the series and had a scan after bowling four overs on the first morning.

Australia beat England by 251 runs to take a 1-0 lead in the series.

"He went through every medical check and it was a unanimous decision from all parties," Root said.

The loss of Anderson, England's leading Test wicket-taker, meant that Stuart Broad and Ben Stokes bowled the majority of England's overs at Edgbaston.

"We went about it how you normally would. It's one of those freak things, he pulled up in the middle of a game," Root told Test Match Special.

"It's easy in hindsight. Sometimes things go against you and you have to find a way of getting through the game.

"It was a fantastic effort considering we were a bowler down and we have to not dwell on it."

It has been reported that Anderson, who batted in both innings, went for a second scan to determine the extent of the injury.

The 37-year-old is not expected to be fit for the next Test at Lord's, which begins on 14 August.

Root admitted England would miss a bowler of Anderson's calibre, but added: "We are still very capable of taking wickets and being more competitive than we were here in the rest of the series."

Australia's victory was their first in a Test at Edgbaston since 2001. England have not lost the first Ashes Test at home since 2005, although they went on to regain the trophy with a 2-1 series victory.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/49239715
 
i didnt expect that, i expected more fight from eng in last innings, get rid of Denly, Bairstow and Roy for next test.
 
Didn't expect Aussies to win this. Congratulations.

After Day 3, I expected England to win this comfortably. But, genius Smith ensured that didn't happen.
 
A very sad day. Australia were extremely lucky with Anderson’s injury which completely changes the complexion of this game.

He wouldn’t have allowed Australia to add over 150+ with the last two wickets in the first innings or to score 450+ in the second innings.

The Edgbaston fortress had to be breached in bizzare circumstances.

England needs to forget this fluke defeat and treat this as a 4 match series. At full-strength, they are still better than this average Australian riding on Smith’s coat-tail.

They also need to accommodate Archer in the lineup because he would have compensated for Anderson’s injury here.
You clearly have no shame whatsoever.

Australia, with Smith and Warner back, are really good. Clearly better than this rubbish England batting line-up, who has no batsman better than aforementioned players. Root's dismissal in the second innings pretty much sums up England's batting woes.

You can't fluke wins in Test cricket :facepalm:
 
This also proves how weak Australia were when Smith and Warner were not in the team. :inti

you play only what is infront of you. THey did well. Their bowling was still top class. Pretty much the same bowling. Infact they had Hazlewood, Starc as well. They played at home. YOu win tests by taking 20 wickets. Not just scoring runs. How many wickets SMith took there?
 
you play only what is infront of you. THey did well. Their bowling was still top class. Pretty much the same bowling. Infact they had Hazlewood, Starc as well. They played at home. YOu win tests by taking 20 wickets. Not just scoring runs. How many wickets SMith took there?

Lol what? I think I will let the scorecard of this match do the talking for me. Here is a tip for you though : Steve Smith made the difference with his fighting spirit and batting. Not sure if you have ever played any kind of sport in your life but having players like Smith in your team does lift the morale of all the players. :inti
 
England got outclassed on day 4 and 5.

The declaration seemed a bit late but England didn't look like their heart was in it right from the start.
 
England lost the game when they let Australia recover from 122/8 to 270 all out on day 1. That effectively reduced and limited their first innings lead.
 
I thought England would win this easily on Day 2. Smith once again showed why he deserves the #1 Test Ranking spot.
 
England needs to move on from Anderson otherwise they will go through a Dale Steyn type situation with him. Better to give a chance to someone else who can serve English Cricket for 10-15 years
 
Excellent win by Australia. Brilliance from Smith and the bowlers.

Obviously the usual suspect defending England. They were out played. They knew Anderson was coming off a injury and still selected him. They also knew Moen Ali was out of form but they don’t have the guts to select a specialist spinner.

I think England will win the series but I really hope Australia win it and Steve Smith is the star for the win hopefully.
 
England remain terrible at playing spin. Nobody seems to get a proper stride out and smother the spin, instead they poke and prod from the crease.

England also cocked up their selection - Anderson and Ali shouldn't have played as one was unfit, the other badly out of nick.
 
England remain terrible at playing spin. Nobody seems to get a proper stride out and smother the spin, instead they poke and prod from the crease.

England also cocked up their selection - Anderson and Ali shouldn't have played as one was unfit, the other badly out of nick.

See what happens when you play specialist spinners compared to fake all rounders........
 
Lol what? I think I will let the scorecard of this match do the talking for me. Here is a tip for you though : Steve Smith made the difference with his fighting spirit and batting. Not sure if you have ever played any kind of sport in your life but having players like Smith in your team does lift the morale of all the players. :inti

You still did not answer my question about how many wickets Steve smith took. None. It is very very hard to win a test in Australia let alone a series especially for a subcontinent team. Same Australian team thrashed Srilanka immediately after that.
 
What changes should be made in the batting? To many T20 and ODI specalist in the team.

I can’t think of anyone better in the top order except Hameed who is languishing at Lancs.

They are all geared to scoring fast ODI fifties not slow test hundreds.

Bairstow has to go.

Poor Moeen has completely lost confidence with bat and ball and should be rested. Don’t believe this bitsa stuff about him - excepting Swann and Monty he is as good a spinner as England have had in thirty years.
 
A very sad day. Australia were extremely lucky with Anderson’s injury which completely changes the complexion of this game.

He wouldn’t have allowed Australia to add over 150+ with the last two wickets in the first innings or to score 450+ in the second innings.

The Edgbaston fortress had to be breached in bizzare circumstances.

England needs to forget this fluke defeat and treat this as a 4 match series. At full-strength, they are still better than this average Australian riding on Smith’s coat-tail.

They also need to accommodate Archer in the lineup because he would have compensated for Anderson’s injury here.

dint think Anderson is good enough to get GOAT smith out honestly. Perhaps he could have restricted aussies lead to about 220 but that still would have been an arduous task for the poor batting unit of England. Roy is a steaming pile of **** batsman in test. openers both suck. buttler is the only really quality batsman and stokes to a lesser extent. Should have picked sam curran for depth in batting. This isn't even Aussies best bowling attacks hazelwood is missing.

Aussies are going to spank England this series.
 
so win the toss and bat first, youll most likely win.

shows india last year were pretty unlucky to be chasing so often and could have won more tests ifthey did not chase so many times

not just would have won more lol. would have won the series. also poor selection cost them.
 
This also proves how weak Australia were when Smith and Warner were not in the team. :inti

both warner and smith had serious issues with bumrah in lpl. don't think it would be any different if they faced him in tests. funnily enough pant is the only one that plays bumrah well.

india were also without 2 of their best openers. Mayank and Shaw. had walking wickets like Rahul and dhawan open.
 
Well that was embarrassing. Entirely expected by all serious England fans though. Given our batting lineup, not sure why the neutrals were predicting a draw. This final day situation was practically tailor-made for a classic English capitulation.

The Ashes is not over. We have come back from similar horrorshows in the past to win series. Ahead of Lord’s though, deep soul-searching needed as well as changes to some team personnel.
 
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England can reverse this damage by winning the next Test match. If they can't win it, Aussies should retain the Ashes.
 
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