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Australia defeat India by 3 wickets in the 3rd ODI

MMHS said:
Wonderful chase, worthy of a sleepless night.

I thought IND was about 20 short without Ash, which probably was the case. It's 3-0 & I think, it'll end 5-0; but IND did play well - all 3 matches were much closer than I thought. May be missing 3/4 key players for Australia made it a decent contest. Warner & Strack probably would have made AUS win 3 or 4 out of 5 with a "Bonus" points. Hope they play some new players in the dead rubbers.
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India made 270 after a spectacular collapse when Starc was playing. I expect India to make 270-280 most times and Australia to chase that comfortably every time as well.
 
Will India stop the winning streak at home of AUS. 17 matches till now. Maybe India is the only team who can do so
 
Mods, please change the thread title.

We lost by 3 wickets. Don't rob us of our moral victory. :(
 
[MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] , jara title change karao yaar plz. This is depressing. :(
 
Ankit007 said:
Will India stop the winning streak at home of AUS. 17 matches till now. Maybe India is the only team who can do so
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With arguably the weakest bowling attack amidst the top 8 teams I don't feel so. Fielding is excellent, so is batting but bowlers lack penetration
 
Executioner said:
With arguably the weakest bowling attack amidst the top 8 teams I don't feel so. Fielding is excellent, so is batting but bowlers lack penetration
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Not that bad as well. We need to have Bhuvi replacing sran in next game and ashwin back. Things may change.

And even bangladesh is there in top 8. Dont count us below them. Our current bowling attack is also better than them.
 
[MENTION=139678]Zak_Fan[/MENTION]

Don't be sad brother. Winning and losing is part of game. Your team fought well. Cheer up you are World Number 1 test team and you will do better in next odi series.

# udaas na ho
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
[MENTION=139678]Zak_Fan[/MENTION]

Don't be sad brother. Winning and losing is part of game. Your team fought well. Cheer up you are World Number 1 test team and you will do better in next odi series.

# udaas na ho
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This is so nice of you bro. :sree

#emotional kar diya
 
Ankit007 said:
Not that bad as well. We need to have Bhuvi replacing sran in next game and ashwin back. Things may change.

And even bangladesh is there in top 8. Dont count us below them. Our current bowling attack is also better than them.
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I am pretty sure that in ODIs the attack of Shakib, Sunny, Mustafiz, Taskin, Al Amin, Mashrafe is superior to that of India's attack of Jadeja, Yadav, Bhuv Kumar, Mohit Sharma, Sran. Stats too will tell you the same I feel. In ODIs, over the past 1 year Bangladesh has performed better than India. Obviously, Bangladesh batted well but still India are a more capable batting side. Which hints that our bowling has been better.

We have bowled out India twice, SA twice, Pak twice, Zimbabwe thrice in the span of 8 months. India haven't been able to do the same. In tests, our attack is inferior I won't deny that.
 
Executioner said:
I am pretty sure that in ODIs the attack of Shakib, Sunny, Mustafiz, Taskin, Al Amin, Mashrafe is superior to that of India's attack of Jadeja, Yadav, Bhuv Kumar, Mohit Sharma, Sran. Stats too will tell you the same I feel. In ODIs, over the past 1 year Bangladesh has performed better than India. Obviously, Bangladesh batted well but still India are a more capable batting side. Which hints that our bowling has been better.

We have bowled out India twice, SA twice, Pak twice, Zimbabwe thrice in the span of 8 months. India haven't been able to do the same. In tests, our attack is inferior I won't deny that.
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India's first attack is Shami Yadav Ishant Bhuvi Jadeja Ashwin.

And you're reading too much into a good home season for you guys. It was largely due to the performance of Mustafizur. India bowled out every side during the league stage of the world cup, that doesn't mean India were the best bowling side. If Bangladesh tours Australia, their attack will be smashed as well. Mustafizur is great and Shakib is good, but that's about it. Btw, when did bowling out Pakistan become an achievement of sorts?
 
I'm enjoying seeing Maxwell decide that he does want to become a legitimate cricketer with genuine substance
 
I am amazed how umesh screws up everytime and again and still doesn't seem to be bothered about it.

Doesn't he have a conscience ? :))
 
Executioner said:
I am pretty sure that in ODIs the attack of Shakib, Sunny, Mustafiz, Taskin, Al Amin, Mashrafe is superior to that of India's attack of Jadeja, Yadav, Bhuv Kumar, Mohit Sharma, Sran. Stats too will tell you the same I feel. In ODIs, over the past 1 year Bangladesh has performed better than India. Obviously, Bangladesh batted well but still India are a more capable batting side. Which hints that our bowling has been better.

We have bowled out India twice, SA twice, Pak twice, Zimbabwe thrice in the span of 8 months. India haven't been able to do the same. In tests, our attack is inferior I won't deny that.
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No it is not. It is good enough for your BD pitches but everywhere else they'll get spanked.
 
Executioner said:
I am pretty sure that in ODIs the attack of Shakib, Sunny, Mustafiz, Taskin, Al Amin, Mashrafe is superior to that of India's attack of Jadeja, Yadav, Bhuv Kumar, Mohit Sharma, Sran. Stats too will tell you the same I feel. In ODIs, over the past 1 year Bangladesh has performed better than India. Obviously, Bangladesh batted well but still India are a more capable batting side. Which hints that our bowling has been better.

We have bowled out India twice, SA twice, Pak twice, Zimbabwe thrice in the span of 8 months. India haven't been able to do the same. In tests, our attack is inferior I won't deny that.
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Talk when you tour outside ban. you have improved but that doesnt mean your bowling is better than us. We beat you in every dept fair and square. Shami, Yadav, Ishant, Ashwin and Jadeja is far superior than ban attack. Go to australia and test your bowling attack, i bet you will lose games inside 35 or 40 overs.
 
Not sure why Ashwin was dropped for this one. Could have been very useful here. The wicket was expected to be on the slower side. Plus it was gripping in the second half and no dew tonight. Only reason I can think of is maybe India was planning to bowl first this time. Still poor call imo. Good game tho top knocks from Kohli and Maxwell.
 
aniket1911 said:
I am amazed how umesh screws up everytime and again and still doesn't seem to be bothered about it.

Doesn't he have a conscience ? :))
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Umesh and Ishant should not be in ODI side. He should be a regular Test bowler.

I prefer Shami and Aaron as our pace bowlers in ODI's.
 
Shami, Ishant, Yadav, Ashwin, Jadeja.. That is our bowling unit and its pretty fine.But as always, one of our pacers get injured and some of stupid selections makes it even worse.It is said that fast bowlers hunt in pair but we might still have to wait for more years before we see our bowlers doing that.
 
Everyone calm down. Dhoni is just looking for "good characters" on the side and not whether they can win or lose :kohli
 
Executioner said:
With arguably the weakest bowling attack amidst the top 8 teams I don't feel so. Fielding is excellent, so is batting but bowlers lack penetration
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fielding in parts let the team down, especially with at least 3 good run out chance missed, India ground fielding in terms of diving around and stopping ball was great, but I lost count how many times India gave away easy twos when ball went to just the edge of the circle, these minor details to me cost india a chance of winning today.
 
In all 3 Odis the Indians messed up big time. Mainly the top order. Yes there were 3 centuries ... but what did they got in return ??? An extremely slow run rate. The Australians were only happy to join that parade !! They batted faster in the last 5/7 overs when it should have been last 15/17 overs .... mind you I say this because they had wickets in hand. What do you do with wickets not used ??? You don't get any credit for that !! Maxwell is correct in their criticism of slow batting when approaching a century. Personal milestone .... at the expense of the team ??? I hope not.
 
Maxwell in 30s edged to Dhoni, was not given out, ended up scoring 95, ultimately winning the match.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Looks like we are the SL of Aus.

To have this performance INSPITE of Starc not playing is pathetic on so many levels.
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Why is it pathetic? Indian team is new too, with players like Gurkeerat and Dhawan making debut and shami injured, if Australian side is second string then India is also not playing its first choice team plus the odi team is in transition


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LOL! Don't tell me Ashwin was dropped for a do-or-die game. How embarrassing.
 
carrom_ball said:
Why is it pathetic? Indian team is new too, with players like Gurkeerat and Dhawan making debut and shami injured, if Australian side is second string then India is also not playing its first choice team plus the odi team is in transition


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It's pathetic that the Aussies are winning this series 3:0. Gurkeerat was a highly rated player so his inclusion was supposed to make India stronger. The new Dhawan was only played because Ashwin has been toothless throughout this series. Shami would have made zero difference, unless he helped India get to 350+ with the bat.
 
carrom_ball said:
Why is it pathetic? Indian team is new too, with players like Gurkeerat and Dhawan making debut and shami injured, if Australian side is second string then India is also not playing its first choice team plus the odi team is in transition


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Cos we aren't even looking like winning any games in Aus.

Aus lost the ODI series in India but they won games and really fought and theyt ook us to the decider.

This is a trundler lineup by Aussies and we are not still making 330. There is literally no excuses for this performance.

Bowlers have been bad too but they weren't up against the easy opposition on favourable conditions like batsmen.

By the way, Gurukeerat and Dhawan are making debut cos the main ones are NOT good enough. Its not a second string by choice.
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
Cos we aren't even looking like winning any games in Aus.

Aus lost the ODI series in India but they won games and really fought and theyt ook us to the decider.

This is a trundler lineup by Aussies and we are not still making 330. There is literally no excuses for this performance.

Bowlers have been bad too but they weren't up against the easy opposition on favourable conditions like batsmen.

By the way, Gurukeerat and Dhawan are making debut cos the main ones are NOT good enough. Its not a second string by choice.
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It is called transition, which is why this team is not expected to win, it is not pathetic, batting has performed, you can't put the blame on batting everytime, even if 300 is just par score or even below par then also bowling has to win some matches, you can't say that we lost because of batting because we didn't score above par score, cricket is about batting bowling and fielding and if you suck in one then don't expect to dominate. Shami would have made the difference and won us a match at least.
 
Ab Fan said:
Shami, Ishant, Yadav, Ashwin, Jadeja.. That is our bowling unit and its pretty fine.But as always, one of our pacers get injured and some of stupid selections makes it even worse.It is said that fast bowlers hunt in pair but we might still have to wait for more years before we see our bowlers doing that.
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Problem with these bowlers is that they make lower order weak.

And they ain't some supreme bowlers to bowl well in pattas.

So more pressure on top order.

We can have 4 bowlers plus one aggressive batting AR (Gurukeerat or Pandya - depending on pitches and try to have an explosive 7 and go all out when batting.
 
carrom_ball said:
It is called transition, which is why this team is not expected to win, it is not pathetic, batting has performed, you can't put the blame on batting everytime, even if 300 is just par score or even below par then also bowling has to win some matches, you can't say that we lost because of batting because we didn't score above par score, cricket is about batting bowling and fielding and if you suck in one then don't expect to dominate. Shami would have made the difference and won us a match at least.
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You are talking in a very general way.

Batting has done its job and bowling lost it when reality is different.

300 cannot be defended most of the times.

Read my post #116 here.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...DI-total-against-Australia-in-Australia/page2

Aus have shredded EVERY bowling attack in Aus in the last 3 years (ODIs).

No bowling attack (and I repeat no attack) could control Aussie run scoring in the last few years.

Shami wouldn't have made ANY difference in results whatsoever (maybe in 3rd ODI but that's about it - still its not a guaranteed win). Unless batting scores 30-50 more runs to create scoreboard pressure and induce mistakes, nothing is gonna happen.

Batting shootuts are batting shootouts.
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
You are talking in a very general way.

Batting has done its job and bowling lost it when reality is different.

300 cannot be defended most of the times.

Read my post #116 here.

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...DI-total-against-Australia-in-Australia/page2

Aus have shredded EVERY bowling attack in Aus in the last 3 years (ODIs).

No bowling attack (and I repeat no attack) could control Aussie run scoring in the last few years.

Shami wouldn't have made ANY difference in results whatsoever (maybe in 3rd ODI but that's about it - still its not a guaranteed win). Unless batting scores 30-50 more runs to create scoreboard pressure and induce mistakes, nothing is gonna happen.

Batting shootuts are batting shootouts.
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lol you just wanna remain one trick pony, bat and score 350 everytime lol, it ain't gonna happen, 295 was easily defendable as shown in the last match, bowling needs to put its hand up and win even if we are 15-20 short sometimes, scoring close 300 three times in a row is good enough to win at least one match and keep the series alive, but no just keep whining about those extra 30 runs, cricket is not just batting SIF :21:
 
carrom_ball said:
lol you just wanna remain one trick pony, bat and score 350 everytime lol, it ain't gonna happen, 295 was easily defendable as shown in the last match, bowling needs to put its hand up and win even if we are 15-20 short sometimes, scoring close 300 three times in a row is good enough to win at least one match and keep the series alive, but no just keep whining about those extra 30 runs, cricket is not just batting SIF :21:
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Doing what it takes is NOT being a one trick pony. Yes, we could have won yesterday's game but that wasn't meant to be cos Aus bats too deep and kept coming at you. You need the extra runs to make them play stupid shots and get out.

Plus again you are missing some facts.

Melbourne had a bit of grip and a bit of turn (not lots) compared to the laast 2. That's why Jaddu could do better and take 2 golden wickets and gurukeerat bowled economically (even though he simply floated the ball).

So better performance from us bowling wise as spinners came into play (that's obvious).

I presented irrefutable facts to you reg the last 3 years but you call it one trick pony. LOL.

Our bowling could have defo done better but that extra 30-50 runs could create the pressure needed for mistakes. Still Aussies are damn good to go for it but it gives us a chance too. When in India 2013, we were on a roll and Aus even with peak Johnson couldn't defend 350 twice. It could happen to India here too but those runs gives us a better chance but I haven't seen any bowling against Aus in Aus that have closed the deal with a sub par score.

There is a reason batting shootouts are batting shootouts. Aussies batting deep is making it 10X more harder.

Moving on.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Doing what it takes is NOT being a one trick pony. Yes, we could have won yesterday's game but that wasn't meant to be cos Aus bats too deep and kept coming at you. You need the extra runs to make them play stupid shots and get out.

Plus again you are missing some facts.

Melbourne had a bit of grip and a bit of turn (not lots) compared to the laast 2. That's why Jaddu could do better and take 2 golden wickets and gurukeerat bowled economically (even though he simply floated the ball).

So better performance from us bowling wise as spinners came into play (that's obvious).

I presented irrefutable facts to you reg the last 3 years but you call it one trick pony. LOL.

Our bowling could have defo done better but that extra 30-50 runs could create the pressure needed for mistakes. Still Aussies are damn good to go for it but it gives us a chance too. When in India 2013, we were on a roll and Aus even with peak Johnson couldn't defend 350 twice. It could happen to India here too but those runs gives us a better chance but I haven't seen any bowling against Aus in Aus that have closed the deal with a sub par score.

There is a reason batting shootouts are batting shootouts. Aussies batting deep is making it 10X more harder.

Moving on.
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lol here is an irrefutable fact, our bowling sucks, move on :misbah
 
Zak_Fan said:
This is so nice of you bro. :sree

#emotional kar diya
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Haha, arry bhai don't be sad. You don't win the war until you lose some battles.
Iqbal says " Paiwasta reh shajjar se ' ummede bahar rakh "
Btw, what's the case with Umesh Yadav? Receiving a lot of abuses on social media regarding some his stupid fileding? I didn't watch the match so don't know what actually happened.
 
#GreenRoars said:
Haha, arry bhai don't be sad. You don't win the war until you lose some battles.
Iqbal says " Paiwasta reh shajjar se ' ummede bahar rakh "
Btw, what's the case with Umesh Yadav? Receiving a lot of abuses on social media regarding some his stupid fileding? I didn't watch the match so don't know what actually happened.
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Didn't get 60% of those Iqbal bhai's words. :afaq

I don't watch such pointless series at all, just follow the score. I heard that our fielding was horrendous, so he must have dropped a catch. Gurkeerat dropped a lolly too.
 
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