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Australia should stop touring Asia if they are going to play like this - Two Test wins in 10 years!

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Australia won only 2 out of the 23 Tests in the last decade and have lost 16 test matches!
 
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You sound like Ian Chappell :najam

I believe thats the whole point :inzi

Australia won only 2 out of the 23 Tests in the last decade and lost 16 yes 16 test matches!

Asian cricket boards have got to start saying ‘listen if things don’t improve we will stop with the invites’

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Well Afghanistan got a Test status now so Australia can improve their record in asia...
 
How many test wins by Asian countries in Australia in last 10yrs?Except India at Perth 2008 i cant find any.
 
Can't believe the Indian team lost a home test to this Australian side by 300+ runs lol. Just how bad the captaincy had to be..?
 
They won 2 tests in asia ( which is not one country btw) where as pakistan has been getting whitewashed again and again in Australia since 1999, not even a single draw, forget about winning. Pakistan has won just 3, yes just 3 test matches against australia in the last 20 years. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis should be the last ones to mock australia. We Indians on the other hand can definitely mock australia :kp
 
It's time that all the nonasians stop forever this nonsense that "Asian sides are home track bully and can't play abroad". Same is applicable to nonasian sides.
 
Its more of a question about do the players want to be there? I sense the vibes that Australian cricketers feel extremely strained when touring the Asia. I remember Shane Warne once described the Australian aesthetic during tours of Asia..

"In India, a cheese sandwich is actually a sandwich with just cheese in it."
 
They won 2 tests in asia ( which is not one country btw) where as pakistan has been getting whitewashed again and again in Australia since 1999, not even a single draw, forget about winning. Pakistan has won just 3, yes just 3 test matches against australia in the last 20 years. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis should be the last ones to mock australia. We Indians on the other hand can definitely mock australia :kp

Sorry.This thread is on results of touring nonasian sides to Asia.Asia includes 4 test playing nations.But you are comparing Pakistan's result only in Australia.Rather you should take into consideration of Pakistan's result in 4 nonasian nations.Pakistan has won quite a few tests and series in England and Newzealand.But Australia? Only 2 tests in Asia.You have missed the context here.
 
They won 2 tests in asia ( which is not one country btw) where as pakistan has been getting whitewashed again and again in Australia since 1999, not even a single draw, forget about winning. Pakistan has won just 3, yes just 3 test matches against australia in the last 20 years. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis should be the last ones to mock australia. We Indians on the other hand can definitely mock australia :kp

That '99 Hobart test and then series were lost to bad umpiring. Even a retired Aussie batter admitted that few years later.

But yeah the fact is Pak have atrocious record in Australia.

Asad Shafiq almost won one tho...
 
Sorry.This thread is on results of touring nonasian sides to Asia.Asia includes 4 test playing nations.But you are comparing Pakistan's result only in Australia.Rather you should take into consideration of Pakistan's result in 4 nonasian nations.Pakistan has won quite a few tests and series in England and Newzealand.But Australia? Only 2 tests in Asia.You have missed the context here.

Not only in australia. But in asia as well. pakistan has i think just won 3 tests against australia since along time anywhere in the world ,if i am not wrong. And bangladesh has also won only once. Plus why include only last 10 matches. Check australia record in indiam They just won one test this time?otherwise tgey used to get complete whitewash in india earlier. Australia are seriously very poor against spin.
 
That '99 Hobart test and then series were lost to bad umpiring. Even a retired Aussie batter admitted that few years later.

But yeah the fact is Pak have atrocious record in Australia.

Asad Shafiq almost won one tho...

Evn india would have won series in australia in 2008. we played better than them for whole series , had that sydney match ,one of the most controversial umpiring in the history not happped.
How many matches pakistan won against australia anywhere in the world in last decade and so ?
 
Evn india would have won series in australia in 2008. we played better than them for whole series , had that sydney match ,one of the most controversial umpiring in the history not happped.
How many matches pakistan won against australia anywhere in the world in last decade and so ?

IIRC we delivered them a Phainta in England. Got 'em out under 100?
 
"In India, a cheese sandwich is actually a sandwich with just cheese in it."
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This Aus team did relatively well vs Ashwin and Jadeja on turners, I wouldn't write them off so quickly. No team can play regular spin, let alone quality spin nowadays.
 
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Dnnow ? i dnt remember really. i remember tge match where kamran screwd it .

Yes, Australia was nailed by Pakistan in one off test in 2010 in England.

Australia was whitewashed 3-0 in UAE in 2014 i think.Salim Malik's Pakistan beat a strong Australian side that includes many legends 2-1 in 1994.So it's not true that Pakistan did bad against Australia in Asia.

But again why you are concentrating on only Australia? Why not Pakistan's result in England,Newzealand? Because,this thread is not on Australia's result in Pakistan,but in whole Asia.So please consider results of Asian sides in 4 nonasian countries.
 
That '99 Hobart test and then series were lost to bad umpiring. Even a retired Aussie batter admitted that few years later.

But yeah the fact is Pak have atrocious record in Australia.

Asad Shafiq almost won one tho...

And at least one more if it wasn't for Akmal's fixer keeping.

Or for the shoddy umpiring in Hobart, where Gilchrist first signaled his greatness.
 
How many test wins by Asian countries in Australia in last 10yrs?Except India at Perth 2008 i cant find any.

You are right. Even australians can ask this question with a straight face. Atleast ind, pak and lanka have won matches or series in England but we have nothing to show when it comes to Australia in the last 10 years.
 
You are right. Even australians can ask this question with a straight face. Atleast ind, pak and lanka have won matches or series in England but we have nothing to show when it comes to Australia in the last 10 years.

I was trying to say the same thing.
 
NZ have won 3 matches out of 19 in India, SL, UAE and Bangladesh.

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Bangladesh have never won a single game in Australia, NZ, SA or England in their entire history.

Of interest, they haven't managed to a draw a single Test in these countries either.

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Title should rather be "Asian countries will stop inviting Australia for tests if they play like this including Afghanistan"
 
They won 2 tests in asia ( which is not one country btw) where as pakistan has been getting whitewashed again and again in Australia since 1999, not even a single draw, forget about winning. Pakistan has won just 3, yes just 3 test matches against australia in the last 20 years. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis should be the last ones to mock australia. We Indians on the other hand can definitely mock australia :kp

but how many times they travel to sia to play pakistan during this time,,just 200 series where their team was ATG we all knwo it but after that just once,it would have been evident,,,and how many series u have won or drwa abroad???/ indians should stop,they have the worst record among sri lanka,pak and india...
 
they have played us once and now they are playing bangla and they are teaching them the lesson that what is home track bully..
 
Indian team of 2000-2009 should definitely tour australia, it took a cheating bucknor to save a series for you guys

Im guessing that makes you feel better and gives yo a good nights sleep

India would have lost the series with or without Bucknor
 
Im guessing that makes you feel better and gives yo a good nights sleep

India would have lost the series with or without Bucknor

I guess that's what you tell yourself to feel better about all those whitewashes pak suffered down under in the last 2 decades :ashwin
 
I guess that's what you tell yourself to feel better about all those whitewashes pak suffered down under in the last 2 decades :ashwin

irrelevant

and quite a comeback from your end :))
 
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If Aus were given the option of not touring Asia for being terrible, they would be happy with that. Its obvious that they do not want to tour Asia.
 
Baha that is a corking stat.

And I thought England were bad.
 
There won't be much cricket left for them then if they do not tour Asia and Asian teams do not tour Australia because of their own poor record in Australia.
 
Aus- India series was quite a spectacle! One of the best in recent years..
 
I watched the series

at best you guys could have gotten was a draw

Having followed the entire series, you are dreaming if you think "India would have lost the series with or without Bucknor".
 
Should AUS say to the asian teams "Stop touring AUS if you're going to play like this?" Aus sucks in Asia, but the vise versa is true aswell. None of the big 3 asian teams have anything dominant to show in Australia aswell.
 
Should AUS say to the asian teams "Stop touring AUS if you're going to play like this?" Aus sucks in Asia, but the vise versa is true aswell. None of the big 3 asian teams have anything dominant to show in Australia aswell.

This.

We are in an era were teams lose as soon as they step foot in alien conditions. Australian team is pretty poor in asia past few years, whereas Asian teams have been poor since i could remember. No asian team has ever won series in Australia whereas Australia have won series in each and every asian countries.
 
When T20 specialists like Maxwell are part of the test team what can you expect. Australia does not have a good pool of test batsmen.
 
You don't see Aus dropping Tests to WI at home or losing home series to SL :))

England destroyed South Africa 3-1 at home whereas Australia lost a home series to South Africa 2-1 and were embarrassed in those losses as well. Also, when Sri Lanka beat England 1-0, Sri Lanka were still considered a very strong team, yes they would not have been favorites but they still had the likes of Sangakkara and Jayawardene. I would say England losing 0-1 at home to that Sri Lankan team is less embarrassing than being whitewashed in SL 3-0 with their current team as the recent series have shown just how average Sri Lanka are now. Even Zimbabwe nearly beat them
 
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Australia can win the next Test and silence a lot of the critics and trolls in this thread.

Mind you, Aus are missing Stark who was brilliant in SL and also bowled some brilliant spells against India last year. With Stark, the result would have been different in the 1st Test.

Now Aus also lost Hazlewood to injury.

Even with all this, do not count out Australia yet. They have it in them to bounce back.
 
Australia can win the next Test and silence a lot of the critics and trolls in this thread.

Now Aus also lost Hazlewood to injury.

Even with all this, do not count out Australia yet. They have it in them to bounce back.

Hahaha, if the great Australian team wins a Test in Bangladesh, what a silencing gesture that'll be!

No dispresect to my Bangla brothers, and I'll explain shortly why I say that.

Let's put this into context. AUS were beaten by a team...

a) With a fraction of Australia's resources/infrastructure
b) With a domestic structure comparable to club cricket in Australia
b) Where players get paid a fraction of AUS players
c) Play a fraction of Tests of what AUS plays. They barely, almost never, get invited anywhere to play to be honest. AUS has played two tests against them and they were so long ago, that neither side has a player from those matches.

I was indifferent to Bangladesh until the '05 ODI beating AUS got in England. Then I knew that those young men with time, resources and decent management could be as good as any side.

And unfortunately there's still a long way to go, but BANG with a bit more resources and investment, would definitely get even better.

Mind you, Aus are missing Stark who was brilliant in SL and also bowled some brilliant spells against India last year. With Stark, the result would have been different in the 1st Test.

Really?

He bowled some good spells in India, but Cummins replaced him and was even better actually.

And this isn't Perth where the likes of Starc change matches.

Australia didn't lose because Bangladesh were putting on 500 that Starc would've prevented.

They lost because they're a rubbish side in Asia. The fact their #3 plays spin like Ranatunga having a bad acid trip, captures their poverty of batting resources.

They're so lucky that two young batsmen came in last year and immediately started performing. If they hadn't come in, they'd probably not even have won against Pakistan in Australia.

No longer have the likes of Hayden, Hussey, Ponting, Gilchrist, Martyn, Clarke, etc to put on winning scores.

Clarke particularly, the most recent of those retirees was magical in India and would've saved them in Bangladesh.

If AUS win the next test, I'd call it a winning-drawn series for BANG.
 
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NZ have won 3 matches out of 19 in India, SL, UAE and Bangladesh.

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Bangladesh have never won a single game in Australia, NZ, SA or England in their entire history.

Of interest, they haven't managed to a draw a single Test in these countries either.

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The current Bangladesh team has only played 2 Tests in those 4 countries in the last 7 years. And one of those was a 2nd string side due to injuries (Mushfiq, Fizz, Imrul, Mominul out).
 
When a team wins, you should give credit to the winners rather than try to discredit the loser. By discrediting the loser, you are in a way trying to devalue the effort of the winners by saying that the loser was no good.

Some fans (perhaps unable to digest this win by Bangladesh over Australia) want to find solace by trying to convince themselves that this Australia team was easily beatable, which is not the case.

Australia are still a high ranking test team, make no mistake about that. And they recently played a very competitive test series in India. So winning against them is extremely creditable for Bangladesh. Let us give them credit for defeating a higher ranked team like Australia.
 
When a team wins, you should give credit to the winners rather than try to discredit the loser. By discrediting the loser, you are in a way trying to devalue the effort of the winners by saying that the loser was no good.

Some fans (perhaps unable to digest this win by Bangladesh over Australia) want to find solace by trying to convince themselves that this Australia team was easily beatable, which is not the case.

Australia are still a high ranking test team, make no mistake about that. And they recently played a very competitive test series in India. So winning against them is extremely creditable for Bangladesh. Let us give them credit for defeating a higher ranked team like Australia.
I only brought up the numbers after a Bangladeshi brought up ours.
 
When a team wins, you should give credit to the winners rather than try to discredit the loser. By discrediting the loser, you are in a way trying to devalue the effort of the winners by saying that the loser was no good.

Some fans (perhaps unable to digest this win by Bangladesh over Australia) want to find solace by trying to convince themselves that this Australia team was easily beatable, which is not the case.

Australia are still a high ranking test team, make no mistake about that. And they recently played a very competitive test series in India. So winning against them is extremely creditable for Bangladesh. Let us give them credit for defeating a higher ranked team like Australia.

Spot on! Good post.
 
Australia only lost by 20 runs , they weren't thrashed.

But if Australia should stop touring Asia due to there record, subcontinent teams should stop touring Australia as they have just as bad a record as Australia's in Asia.
 
The Bangers played well.

Oz do have a massive problem with Asian conditions at the moment- mostly in the batting department. We are paying the price for 3 strategic errors over the last few years that are coming home to roost.

1- thinking IPL experience in Asia says anything about test cricket and selecting accordingly (see Maxwell)

2- for making the BBL the centrepiece of our domestic season. It completely ruins the flow of the shield season and we aren't getting players with bedded in test techniques anymore.

3- playing on more homogenised, bland, drop in pitches at home now, due to encroachment by football codes into cricket seasons. It used to be that we had 5 really different pitches in Shield games (not always the same in tests). Gabba was a bouncy, green, seamer. WACA was rock hard & lighting fast & bouncy. SCG used to be black soil that spun. Adelaide would be lower, slower & turn later on. Melbourne (just like its weather) could be anything one month to the next- quick, dry, green, up & down or just a "standard" aussie wicket with some characteristics of all the other 4, just to less extent.

These days we play on pre-prepared drop ins in half the grounds & the chance to play on big turners at Sydney & Adelaide disappeared somewhat. melbourne also became a drop in.
 
They did really well on the tour of India. They were poor for a while but they have actually improved. BAD are a force at home and many test nations will struggle to win there consistently.
 
When a team wins, you should give credit to the winners rather than try to discredit the loser. By discrediting the loser, you are in a way trying to devalue the effort of the winners by saying that the loser was no good.

Some fans (perhaps unable to digest this win by Bangladesh over Australia) want to find solace by trying to convince themselves that this Australia team was easily beatable, which is not the case.

Australia are still a high ranking test team, make no mistake about that. And they recently played a very competitive test series in India. So winning against them is extremely creditable for Bangladesh. Let us give them credit for defeating a higher ranked team like Australia.

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People are Reading it as a loss for Australia and not that Bangladesh won.

Even though BD make selection blunders and some mistakes on the field, the players performed. Our spin bowling was disciplined and bowlers mixed it up. We took crucial catches, and our batsmen negotiated spin pretty well.

It should not highlight the fact that Australia are poor rather that Bangladesh have improved.
 
Aus making the haters eat their share of humble pie. This Australian team is still a dangerous side. Though they struggle in SC badly, they can up their performance anytime and surprise their opponents

Another half day of Warner and Bangladesh will be out of contention in this test.
 
They are the toughest cookies, they shouldn't be understimated so easily. They have competed well in the last few tests in Asia after the horror show in Sri Lanka.
 
Ozzie fanboyz suddenly coming out of the woodwork.

Even if they win this Test, the series for Australia is still just as much of a failure as England's drawn 1-1 series last year.
 
Ozzie fanboyz suddenly coming out of the woodwork.

Even if they win this Test, the series for Australia is still just as much of a failure as England's drawn 1-1 series last year.

As much? Didn't england lose by a huge margin?:razzaq
 
They are starting to adapt. Warner, Smith, Handscomb. Need two more players and they will become a force.
 
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