Australia slips in Test rankings after 1-1 series draw against Bangladesh

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Australia has slipped one place to fifth position in the MRF Tyres ICC Test Team Rankings after drawing the two-Test series against Bangladesh 1-1.

Australia, which started the series in fourth position at 100 points, is now on 97 points, the same as New Zealand, but is behind on decimal points.

Australia had to win the series 1-0 or better to remain in fourth position on the points table, which is led by India with 125 points. South Africa is placed second at 110 points while England is third with 105 points.

Meanwhile, Bangladesh has gained five points from the series to reach an aggregate of 74 points, though it remains in ninth position, only ahead of Zimbabwe.

MRF Tyres ICC Test Team Rankings (as on 7 September 2017, after the Bangladesh v Australia series)

Rank Team Points

1 India 125

2 South Africa 110

3 England 105

4 New Zealand 97

5 Australia 97 (-3)

6 Pakistan 93

7 Sri Lanka 90

8 West Indies 75

9 Bangladesh 74 (+5)

10 Zimbabwe 00

https://www.icc-cricket.com/media-releases/466342

 

[MMHS]

Their time is coming in winter, they'll make it up at the expense of England.

If WI loses at Lord's, do they go behind us?

 

[AlizeeFan]

Their time is coming in winter, they'll make it up at the expense of England.

If WI loses at Lord's, do they go behind us?

No, they will remain ahead of Ban.

 

[Tusker]

Just 3 points separating SL and Pak ... WOW

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Just 3 points separating SL and Pak ... WOW

After YK/Misbah, Pak will be a weaker team in Test arena, so I won't be surprised if we slip further.

 

[mak36]

After YK/Misbah, Pak will be a weaker team in Test arena, so I won't be surprised if we slip further.

I disagree. The biggest reason Pakistan have slipped in the test rankings is due to the lack of test matches.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

The reigning defending undisputed no. 1 team in the world INDIA

 

[Buffet]

I disagree. The biggest reason Pakistan have slipped in the test rankings is due to the lack of test matches.

I don't think the lack of test matches is a reason here. Except India, everyone else has played 10-12 tests in the last 12 months. Last 12 months Pakistan had two whitewash and you lose lots of points for any whitewash. Pakistan had one good result in Eng, but it was pretty much cancelled by dropping two tests against WI. Some older results are also out of calculations.



I think Pakistan will play home games in future and it will go up in ranking, but Pakistan fails to dominate too much in UAE. I expect rating points of around 100. Pakistan normally hangs around 100 points and ranking goes up or down based on other team's rating points.

 

[wrongun]

I actually think those rankings are a pretty fair assessment of the last couple of years.

India have been a top dog at home, better than anyone else has been in their own conditions and managed the odd win elsewhere.

SA have been a decent team in most places. They have issues but until very recently had the best quick & best bat. Rabada has eased the loss of Steyn but without AB & with Amla struggling they have dipped. The return of AB just might kick Amla back into gear imo.

England inconsistent but managed some wins against good opposition.

Then we have a gap in points.

NZ/OZ have underperformed & Pak just behind them having surprised by doing better in tests than most predicted over the last few years. Any of these 3 has the talent to leap up to the top tier if they are well lead and perform consistently (plus get enough cricket for Pakistan).

 

[MMHS]

No, they will remain ahead of Ban.

Which means, we'll have to draw one match in SAF , and WI has to lose 2-0 in NZ. Though call - need rain & need rain to stay away.

 

[MMHS]

Ranking system are quite fair actually. It credits recent performance & the ranking positions are quite acceptable - may be 1/2 spots either side, but not a big deal. Only 2 changes I would like to make is differentiation between home & away; and some extra points for a series W/D - be it 2 Test or 5 Test series.

 

[AlizeeFan]

Ranking system are quite fair actually. It credits recent performance & the ranking positions are quite acceptable - may be 1/2 spots either side, but not a big deal. Only 2 changes I would like to make is differentiation between home & away; and some extra points for a series W/D - be it 2 Test or 5 Test series.

Howstat used to do that earlier - giving extra value to away wins. Now that link is dead. Even with that there wasn't much difference to ICC rankings.

 

[MMHS]

Howstat used to do that earlier - giving extra value to away wins. Now that link is dead. Even with that there wasn't much difference to ICC rankings.

Not sure how long back it was, but in recent times should reflect a difference. May be it was between 2005-12, when surprisingly AUS, SAF, ENG had better away results in between, while PAK kept drawing on home wickets, but had decent show away and IND won series in ENG, WI, NZ. However, if it's similar to everyone (home dominance), then away factor will be normalized.

 

[AlizeeFan]

Not sure how long back it was, but in recent times should reflect a difference. May be it was between 2005-12, when surprisingly AUS, SAF, ENG had better away results in between, while PAK kept drawing on home wickets, but had decent show away and IND won series in ENG, WI, NZ. However, if it's similar to everyone (home dominance), then away factor will be normalized.

Can't recall when they stopped it, but I guess it was there till 2015.

 

[Executioner]

Bangladesh missed a golden oppurtunity of going ahead of WI in the rankings. Not much separating BD and WI right now on paper.

 

[Shutdown Corner]

I disagree. The biggest reason Pakistan have slipped in the test rankings is due to the lack of test matches.

Not true because then that would mean BD would be ranked higher also since we have even fewer test matches than PAK.

But the rating is calculated as points divided by matches, so fewer matches isn't a disadvantage.

 

[CanadianG00se]

I disagree. The biggest reason Pakistan have slipped in the test rankings is due to the lack of test matches.

And blame lies with PCB. They are reluctant to host 3 match series with most nations. If im not wrong they had 2 test match series against Aus and NZ. I can understand for them to host bare minimum number of test matches to lower the operating loss. But it will also have negative impact on their rankings as well(less matches means less opportunity to gain ranking points)

 

[Gubol123]

And blame lies with PCB. They are reluctant to host 3 match series with most nations. If im not wrong they had 2 test match series against Aus and NZ. I can understand for them to host bare minimum number of test matches to lower the operating loss. But it will also have negative impact on their rankings as well(less matches means less opportunity to gain ranking points)

apart from the four match series they played in Eng, i don't recall any recent series where they played more than 3 matches. Even three test matches are rare these days. Pak always hosts relatively more LOIs compared to big three

 

[R0H1T]

Bangladesh missed a golden oppurtunity of going ahead of WI in the rankings. Not much separating BD and WI right now on paper.

Just on paper, in reality they are doing much better.

 

[MMHS]

apart from the four match series they played in Eng, i don't recall any recent series where they played more than 3 matches. Even three test matches are rare these days. Pak always hosts relatively more LOIs compared to big three

You mean T20s - before this ENG & AUS series, last 5 match ODI series PAK played was SRL in 2013 & SAF in 2012.

In general, PAK played more ODI in 90s, because T20 wasn't there AND, I KNOW EXACTLY WHY PCB WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED TO MAKE PAK PLAY AS MANY ODI AS POSSIBLE IN UAE; now T20 has made that equation even better. And, it's not players' interest to play so many T20s or ODIs - it's PCB & their top beneficiaries.

 

[Gubol123]

Just on paper, in reality they are doing much better.

Do you mean BD is doing better? WI, with all their issues, have done pretty well over the last year. They won a test in UAE, competed until last hour against Pak in WI and now competing on equal footing in England. end of third day third test, series is still open. I don't think BD will compete same way in England yet, even India might struggle. So there isn't that much separating both of them and ranking is surprisingly accurate

 

[CanadianG00se]

apart from the four match series they played in Eng, i don't recall any recent series where they played more than 3 matches. Even three test matches are rare these days. Pak always hosts relatively more LOIs compared to big three

My point exactly. PCB earns lot of profit hosting LOIs and incurs loss hosting test matches. Even fans dont really go to stadium to watch test matches.

 

[R0H1T]

Do you mean BD is doing better? WI, with all their issues, have done pretty well over the last year. They won a test in UAE, competed until last hour against Pak in WI and now competing on equal footing in England. end of third day third test, series is still open. I don't think BD will compete same way in England yet, even India might struggle. So there isn't that much separating both of them and ranking is surprisingly accurate

I was talking about WI, they are way better than BD (especially away) even though the rankings won;t show that.

As for BD, pretty sure they'll be routed in SA, Aus & possibly even England. India, well I'm hoping this is like the turn of the millennium (under Ganguly) & not another false dawn.

 

[Snow]

Surprise by not many downgrading ICC rankings just because India is at #1.

 

[Gubol123]

You mean T20s - before this ENG & AUS series, last 5 match ODI series PAK played was SRL in 2013 & SAF in 2012.

In general, PAK played more ODI in 90s, because T20 wasn't there AND, I KNOW EXACTLY WHY PCB WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED TO MAKE PAK PLAY AS MANY ODI AS POSSIBLE IN UAE; now T20 has made that equation even better. And, it's not players' interest to play so many T20s or ODIs - it's PCB & their top beneficiaries.

yeah more T20s now. But generally over the years Pak played relatively more LOIs compared to other teams. I didn't check the stats but last couple of decades atleast i don't remember Pakistan playing five test match series. they always optimize LOIs

Pray, enlighten us on the bolded part

 

[Gubol123]

I was talking about WI, they are way better than BD (especially away) even though the rankings won;t show that.

As for BD, pretty sure they'll be routed in SA, Aus & possibly even England. India, well I'm hoping this is like the turn of the millennium (under Ganguly) & not another false dawn.

Agreed, WI have done very well considering how incompetent their board is. If they chose their first choice team they can easily be in top six in Tests and top four in LOIs

 

[Gubol123]

I was talking about WI, they are way better than BD (especially away) even though the rankings won;t show that.

As for BD, pretty sure they'll be routed in SA, Aus & possibly even England. India, well I'm hoping this is like the turn of the millennium (under Ganguly) & not another false dawn.

India will do pretty well overseas if they make they play plenty of practice matches on tour. India may not yet have the team to dominate, but they can still win overseas

 

[BDfanforever]

Apart from Shakib, Tamim, Mushy rest of BD players are incompetent. Without solid fast bowlers they simply cannot compete outside of Bangladesh.

 

[The_Odd_One]

How is NZ ahead of Australia?

 

[CanadianG00se]

Apart from Shakib, Tamim, Mushy rest of BD players are incompetent. Without solid fast bowlers they simply cannot compete outside of Bangladesh.

With or without fast bowlers, BD cant win a thing outside Bangladesh.

South Africa is gonna beat the crap out of Bangladesh side.

 

[BDfanforever]

With or without fast bowlers, BD cant win a thing outside Bangladesh.

South Africa is gonna beat the crap out of Bangladesh side.

Neither can't most of the away teams.