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Game starts in under 40 mins. Stokes to debut for England and perhaps Panesar to play also.
 
Australia to bat first on a belter.

This is the same ground where PAK will beat India during 2015 world cup.
 
Good to see England being brave on selection with Stokes and Monty


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We'll see what this pitch is like after both teams have batted on it. People always come to premature conclusions having watched only one team bat.


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Surprised at Bresnan not being included. In a critical match such as this, would have thought he was a safer bet.
 
Wonder if England would have picked this team had Michael Clarke not played his mind games in the presser earlier.

Weak batting lineup made even weaker with Stokes- I think this match is Australia's to lose
 
The Poms trying to get the ball changed lol


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The Adelaide Oval used to be pretty. They turned it into an aerial ping pong monstrosity now!


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OZGOD said:
Can't hear him thankfully I have the OZ commentary


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He was saying why do the umpires keep re-checking the ball, if they are already looking at it after only 5 overs, there must be something wrong with it. Just replace it and get on with it. :))
 
Good lineup from England, but a bad toss to lose. If they don't get Warner out soon, this test could be lost by the end of day 1.
 
On_the_up said:
He was saying why do the umpires keep re-checking the ball, if they are already looking at it after only 5 overs, there must be something wrong with it. Just replace it and get on with it. :))
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It's because the bloody Pommies keep whinging about it lol


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Time for Twatto to stand and deliver. We need big runs today


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Poor shot from Warner.

No need for that especially as he was in. It was like a tailender shot in One day cricket.
 
Geez Twatto has an ordinary average for a first drop batsman. 35 is very ordinary. We keep going on about how talented he is is but he's been playing for years


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Perfect opportunity for Watson to make a big score. I'm feeling a bit nervous for Rogers though.
 
90MPH said:
Poor shot from Warner.

No need for that especially as he was in. It was like a tailender shot in One day cricket.
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Horrible shot. That's one thing that Warner has to learn if he is to make the next step to being a real gun player - the ability to know which balls to leave.


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OZGOD said:
Geez Twatto has an ordinary average for a first drop batsman. 35 is very ordinary. We keep going on about how talented he is is but he's been playing for years


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Probably the equally most disappointing player for Australia in the past 5 years along with Mitchell Johnson IMO. On talent alone, Watson should average 45 with the bat and sub 30 with the ball.
 
Torborg said:
Probably the equally most disappointing player for Australia in the past 5 years along with Mitchell Johnson IMO. On talent alone, Watson should average 45 with the bat and sub 30 with the ball.
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Yea that's why I never rate talent by itself, because without mental fortitude it won't translate into success.


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OZGOD said:
Horrible shot. That's one thing that Warner has to learn if he is to make the next step to being a real gun player - the ability to know which balls to leave.


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Warner seemed stuck in two minds.

1. He wanted to attack and hit the ball.
2. He recognised that he shouldn't.

So he didn't really do either.
 
pitch is slow to be honest, ball not coming on to the bat, might have contributed to the dismissal.
 
OZGOD said:
Yea that's why I never rate talent by itself, because without mental fortitude it won't translate into success.


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I couldn't agree more, but mental fortitude isn't something that's easily measured. All you can do is throw talented players in the deep end and see if they can swim.

Unfortunately, Australia have a few players who occasionally tease us with what they're capable of, but never deliver on a regular basis. Watson, Johnson, Phil Hughes, and Mitchell Starc all come to mind. On talent, alone, we should be 2nd behind SA in tests.

Talent is the best hope we have though right now. Sure there are lesser players who are mentally stronger, but they will never be capable of delivering what we demand. I'd prefer to wait until the more talented players mature enough so they can deliver close to their potential than accept a more predictable state of mediocrity.
 
On_the_up said:
pitch is slow to be honest, ball not coming on to the bat, might have contributed to the dismissal.
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I'm reluctant to blame Warner. He played his natural game and there is always an inherent risk involved. It's a risk worth taking AFAIAC.
 
Convict said:
Warner seemed stuck in two minds.

1. He wanted to attack and hit the ball.
2. He recognised that he shouldn't.

So he didn't really do either.
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Yea comes down to split second judgment. It's what differentiates the great from the merely good. No half measures and decisions have to be made in milliseconds.


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Torborg said:
I'm reluctant to blame Warner. He played his natural game and there is always an inherent risk involved. It's a risk worth taking AFAIAC.
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The disappointing thing was that it was a nothing shot, as the saying goes if you want to slash, slash hard.
 
Torborg said:
I couldn't agree more, but mental fortitude isn't something that's easily measured. All you can do is throw talented players in the deep end and see if they can swim.

Unfortunately, Australia have a few players who occasionally tease us with what they're capable of, but never deliver on a regular basis. Watson, Johnson, Phil Hughes, and Mitchell Starc all come to mind. On talent, alone, we should be 2nd behind SA in tests.

Talent is the best hope we have though right now. Sure there are lesser players who are mentally stronger, but they will never be capable of delivering what we demand. I'd prefer to wait until the more talented players mature enough so they can deliver close to their potential than accept a more predictable state of mediocrity.
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Yes well he has had way too many chances to be fair. Put it this way if he wAs being picked purely as a batsman or purely as a bowler he wouldn't make this side. Just doesn't have that mental strength IMO. He's there as a bits and pieces selection which means he should be batting at 6.

He may prove me wrong and score a ton today - maybe like Symmo he needed 8 years to develop and his 176 was his breakout performance. We will see but I'm not convinced by him at all. Other players have not been given anywhere near as long the rope he has been given.


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Maiden for Swann.

The way Monty bowls should be key to England's chances, there is nothing in it for the pacemen.
 
On_the_up said:
The disappointing thing was that it was a nothing shot, as the saying goes if you want to slash, slash hard.
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Yea it was the way the shot was executed which spoke more to his hesitation.


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On_the_up said:
The disappointing thing was that it was a nothing shot, as the saying goes if you want to slash, slash hard.
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I agree, it looked ordinary on tv. I just don't see it as something that's easily corrected. Warner is the type of batsmen that is best off relying on his natural instinct and feel rather than outside analysis of his game to correct his flaws.

Until he got out, he looked capable of taking the game quickly away from England, and the risk is worth the reward AFAIAC.
 
OZGOD said:
Yes well he has had way too many chances to be fair. Put it this way if he wAs being picked purely as a batsman or purely as a bowler he wouldn't make this side. Just doesn't have that mental strength IMO. He's there as a bits and pieces selection which means he should be batting at 6.

He may prove me wrong and score a ton today - maybe like Symmo he needed 8 years to develop and his 176 was his breakout performance. We will see but I'm not convinced by him at all. Other players have not been given anywhere near as long the rope he has been given.


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He is better than Symmo, both as a batsmen and bowler, at least he should be! In a stronger era, he'd earn his stripes first, but we don't have that luxury. Stronger talent is a good enough reason for a longer rope IMO. Watson and Hughes are the two players we shouldn't give up on.
 
Torborg said:
He is better than Symmo, both as a batsmen and bowler, at least he should be! In a stronger era, he'd earn his stripes first, but we don't have that luxury. Stronger talent is a good enough reason for a longer rope IMO. Watson and Hughes are the two players we shouldn't give up on.
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Watson is 32. Keep him in for a few more years and see if Langer can turn Mitch Marsh around (early signs look promising).

Hughes is an A grade talent and will make it. His problem is not mental- he's got strong character - but that he has no confidence because he knows his current technique is not up to it.

Give him a few more seasons of shield and county to try and fix the technique.

Hopefully Rogers can last 1-2 more summers as that will be the perfect time to bring in Silk.
 
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Geez Twatto has an ordinary average for a first drop batsman. 35 is very ordinary. We keep going on about how talented he is is but he's been playing for years
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He's too far up the order. He should bat at #6.
 
Robert said:
He's too far up the order. He should bat at #6.
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The problem is that he can only get set against a hard new ball. Same with Warner.

He also chucks a tanty when he doesn't get to bat near the top.

I'm looking forward for the day we can ease him out
 
What's wrong with Cook it's only the 2nd over after lunch and only Swanns 2nd over of the game and he's got a deep mid on for Watson. Come on Cook attack Watson let him go over the top why give him easy singles. Another negative and defensive tactic by Cook.
 
s.h.a.k said:
What's wrong with Cook it's only the 2nd over after lunch and only Swanns 2nd over of the game and he's got a deep mid on for Watson. Come on Cook attack Watson let him go over the top why give him easy singles. Another negative and defensive tactic by Cook.
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Especially since Watto falls apart when he can't score singles.
 
s.h.a.k said:
What's wrong with Cook it's only the 2nd over after lunch and only Swanns 2nd over of the game and he's got a deep mid on for Watson. Come on Cook attack Watson let him go over the top why give him easy singles. Another negative and defensive tactic by Cook.
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Cook is very defensive at times.
 
Panesar is good choice , he can stop runs. But Batting first Australia have negated the potency of the spinners
 
Anybody have an audio link that I can listen to on my iPhone ?

Test Match Sofa is the only one I can find - though I can't stand the 'commentators' so I turned it off.
 
Bowled 'im said:
Anybody have an audio link that I can listen to on my iPhone ?

Test Match Sofa is the only one I can find - though I can't stand the 'commentators' so I turned it off.
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Cricket Australia offer a radio stream of Grandstand on their website.
 
Convict said:
Cricket Australia offer a radio stream of Grandstand on their website.
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Thanks convict. But I am in Tokyo . I tried the CA stream during the last test but ' due to broadcasting restrictions .....etc. etc' - no joy :(
 
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