India (587 & 427/6d) defeat England (407 & 271) by 336 runs in 2nd Test at Edgbaston

[Romali_rotti]

@Romali_rotti he talking about you bud not me

At the time what I suggested was the right move, the match wouldve ended quicker with Indians winning and having more rest ahead of the next test. It don't matter now they came away with the win either way...

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Naseem has been playing for over six years now and has 78 matches in all formats including 20 tests.

Akashdeep has played only 8 tests and almost half of total matches Naseem has played (48)

If Naseem really had any potential, he wouldn't be averaging 35+ in multiple formats, that's among the worst stats among bowlers who have played so many games.

Its Venkatesh Prasad and Manoj Prabhakar level stats.

Akash deep must have honed his skills in first class cricket.

Both Naseem and Shaheen got thrown in the deep end to lead the Pakistan attack with little first class cricket behind them.

Is that their fault, or typical missmanaging of Pakistan coaches and Pcb

 

[dravidthewall]

You first increase your cricket knowledge before lecturing others.

You have demonstrated you don't understand Test. You are probably a casual IPL fan.

Bazball is not a good strategy in all situations. If it was, England wouldn't finish 5th in the last WTC.

England could've drawn this Test had they batted sensibly. They couldn't even last for 3 sessions. Retarded batting.

I have enough cricketing knowledge then you , since india won worldcup in 1983. Everyone knows here Bazzball is not good strategy and tell that to B mac.But they commited for Bazzball whatever comes at them. They don't care about draw. In this Bazzball era they either win or loose , that is their strategy

 

[Savak]

Akash deep must have honed his skills in first class cricket.

Both Naseem and Shaheen got thrown in the deep end to lead the Pakistan attack with little first class cricket behind them.

Is that their fault, or typical missmanaging of Pakistan coaches and Pcb

You can blame the PCB when they failed in their first few games but these two have now played for a good 6-7 years and have had enough international exposure in all formats to understand what is needed to succeed at the top level. The fact they still haven't inspite of ample opportunity, support, resources and lack of competition provided to them by the PCB indicates their own lack of work ethic, hard work, game awareness, cricketing iq and intellect and a fair question ie if they haven't learnt much after 6-7 years of international cricket experience, is it worth persisting with them anymore or perhaps its time to give others the same chance and exposure

 

[Vikram1989]

For lord's test Bumrah is definitely back . Nitish Reddy is useless so he needs to be dropped along with Prasidh Krishna.

One of the spinners need to dropped and play Kuldeep yadav.


Sai / karun

Karun/ Sai
Jadeja / washi


This should be playing 11 for lord's test.

Entire coaching squad test future depends on one more test win.if India wins atleast another match in this series, all their future is safe till another 2 years.they can blame/prove bgt and whitewash is completely due to oldies ( infact its true).At this time they won't take any risk. They will go with reddy and washi for sure. Bumrah, Sai in place of prasid,Nair.

 

[Mockingbird]

Entire coaching squad test future depends on one more test win.if India wins atleast another match in this series, all their future is safe till another 2 years.they can blame/prove bgt and whitewash is completely due to oldies ( infact its true).At this time they won't take any risk. They will go with reddy and washi for sure. Bumrah, Sai in place of prasid,Nair.

Such a defensive approach… Gill should grow a spine & start making the decisions now. Get Kuldeep in - London is hot as hell & surely pitch will assist spinners at some point. I would defi drop Washi or Jadeja & get Kuldeep in.

 

[Sachin fan]

Akash deep must have honed his skills in first class cricket.

Both Naseem and Shaheen got thrown in the deep end to lead the Pakistan attack with little first class cricket behind them.

Is that their fault, or typical missmanaging of Pakistan coaches and Pcb

Shaheen averages 27 in tests, less than Akashdeep

Naseem averages 35+

Its mind boggling to me you would take their names together as if Afridi and Shah are similar when shaheen is light years ahead and true talent while Naseem is one of the worst bowlers to play test cricket.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

Very well played by India. Team Performance.
Eng need to drop Woakes and Tongue and bring Cook and Archer in.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Very well played by India. Team Performance.
Eng need to drop Woakes and Tongue and bring Cook and Archer in.

woakes averages 13 or something at Lords.

 

[Vikram1989]

Such a defensive approach… Gill should grow a spine & start making the decisions now. Get Kuldeep in - London is hot as hell & surely pitch will assist spinners at some point. I would defi drop Washi or Jadeja & get Kuldeep in.

Or washi at 6 instead of reddy.sai in place of karun.rest are usual suspects making it 3 pacers and 3 spinners.kuldeep at 8 can hang around.Batters have to be more responsible.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

woakes averages 13 or something at Lords.

Didn't know next test was in lords. but then again, his pace is down and he is 36 or something. He is not bowling or even batting well. Sam Cook should get a game.

 

[mominsaigol]

You're forget to congratulate @mominsaigol and my friend @The Bald Eagle . They are fall in this category and deserved to be congratulated.

I am > Any category that you or @Rajdeep can assign.

Their is no one on my level. I alone stand on top of the mountain.

 

[Devadwal]

I am > Any category that you or @Rajdeep can assign.

Their is no one on my level. I alone stand on top of the mountain.

So true , everyone has more cricketing knowledge so they have better level than you.

 

[Sachin fan]

I am > Any category that you or @Rajdeep can assign.

Their is no one on my level. I alone stand on top of the mountain.

I think everyone would agree on this point. The only disagreement will be about what that mountain consists of

 

[mominsaigol]

I think everyone would agree on this point. The only disagreement will be about what that mountain consists of

That mountain is the highest peak in the world. I look down at everybody while no one can reach me.

 

[mominsaigol]

So true , everyone has more cricketing knowledge so they have better level than you.

No one has more knowledge then I do. First and foremost you dont have any potw so you should not speak.

Secondly I have owned you 100x over. It is impossible to defeat me especially if you are an indian.

I am the only one who is

A) 100% Unbiased
B) 100% Factual
C) 100% Backing my stats with quantitative and qualitative data.

It's why no indian poster can defeat me as I keep my feelings out of cricket and only talk facts + science

 

[MP2011]

Great win for us, congratulations to all Indian fans and commiserations to England.

Well done young guns. What was best for me was not feeling Bumrah's absence from this test, augurs well for the future. So refreshing to see Siraj bowling so well in the first innings. This was we dearly missed in the BGT

 

[Rajdeep]

Where are all those phaasht bowlers who were hyped during the IPL and supposedly better than Lee, Akhtar, and Bond? How did Akash Deep end up here instead of them?

Hope now you got the answer bro...how Akash Deep got here instead of 'them'?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Hope now you got the answer bro...how Akash Deep got here instead of 'them'?

You should have spoken up back then. Why wait for his 6-fer to show support? Clearly, even you didn't trust his bowling when I made that comment. By the way, where did those phaasht bowlers vanish?

 

[Rajdeep]

You should have spoken up back then. Why wait for his 6-fer to show support? Clearly, even you didn't trust his bowling when I made that comment. By the way, where did those phaasht bowlers vanish?

Smart people normally wait for the final laugh. Others do premature celebration. Ask my friend @KingKhanWC

 

[mominsaigol]

Smart people normally wait for the final laugh. Others do premature celebration. Ask my friend @KingKhanWC

Confident people ensure they get the final laugh through force.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Smart people normally wait for the final laugh. Others do premature celebration. Ask my friend @KingKhanWC

This isn't smart, it's just classic glory hunting by you.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Spicier pitches for the rest of the series l, guaranteed.

They'll magically appear regardless of the dry, warm weather.

You sure? Bazball as a philosophy seems rooted in persisting with this mindset/style of play. Also, England seem to be scared of Bumrah.

In the past England could afford to make spicier pitches because they had two of the best bowlers in these conditions at their disposal. But right now even the England pace-attack looks like one of the worst in decades.

If only they hadn't pushed Anderson into retirement...

 

[Nikhil_cric]

You sure? Bazball as a philosophy seems rooted in persisting with this mindset/style of play. Also, England seem to be scared of Bumrah.

In the past England could afford to make spicier pitches because they had two of the best bowlers in these conditions at their disposal. But right now even the England pace-attack looks like one of the worst in decades.

If only they hadn't pushed Anderson into retirement...

India has a very clear advantage on a flat, dry surface.

Our batters can bat longer and bowlers can still get something out of the wickets .

Bowler friendly surfaces may not give England the definitive advantage like the Broaderson era but it might at least make it more competitive and England have a chance

There is a precedent . 2023 Ashes, after 2 flat, dry wickets they went for seam frendly ones and they managed to dominate Australia after that

 

[Markhor]

Lot of talk about the pitches but we also need to mention the Dukes ball.

Have always been a big fan of the Dukes but since Covid it's been rubbish. The ball seems to get soft quicker and is changed a lot more.

Kookaburra has been decent these last few years.

 

[CrIc_Mystique]

Just get in the plane and come running to your country. LOL.

Lol and Indians made ad by saying seekhne nahi sikhane aaye hai. Hahah

It's kind of like aane dou series.haha
They keep getting embarrassed but still they never learn.

so since India had the Wins and as per the Ilm from your neck of the woods, if you don't get Win, you get Learn -

Which was the big, bigger and biggest 'Learn' from the WTC T20 2024, CT 2025 and B-ham test?

 

[sweep_shot]

You sure? Bazball as a philosophy seems rooted in persisting with this mindset/style of play. Also, England seem to be scared of Bumrah.

In the past England could afford to make spicier pitches because they had two of the best bowlers in these conditions at their disposal. But right now even the England pace-attack looks like one of the worst in decades.

If only they hadn't pushed Anderson into retirement...

I think Bazball is just a band-aid to England's white ball weakness. It is not a long-term solution.

Bazball doesn't work in all situations. There was a reason why England finished 5th in last WTC.

England need some solid Test players like they had 10-15 years ago (Strauss, Cook, KP, Trott, Anderson, Bell, Broad, Prior, Swann etc.).

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Naseem has been playing for over six years now and has 78 matches in all formats including 20 tests.

Akashdeep has played only 8 tests and almost half of total matches Naseem has played (48)

If Naseem really had any potential, he wouldn't be averaging 35+ in multiple formats, that's among the worst stats among bowlers who have played so many games.

Its Venkatesh Prasad and Manoj Prabhakar level stats.

Comparing 125 kmph pie chuckers like Akashdeep who bowled one good spell to a firecracker like Naseem is borderline trolling.

 

[Sachin fan]

Comparing 125 kmph pie chuckers like Akashdeep who bowled one good spell to a firecracker like Naseem is borderline trolling.

Imagine how poor a bowler is that his stats after 20 tests is same as 125kph trundlers like Prasad and Prabhakar

Imagine how poor a bowler is that after 20 tests his average is 8 points more than someone like Akashdeep you call a pie chucker.

The only trolls are those who ignore actual numbers and just go by their feelings. So yeah Naseem is firecracker if you live in a delusional world aka La La Land.

P.S. Akashdeep can bowl 135+ all day in tests while Naseem was trundling in 120kph in tests.

 

[Sachin fan]

You should have spoken up back then. Why wait for his 6-fer to show support? Clearly, even you didn't trust his bowling when I made that comment. By the way, where did those phaasht bowlers vanish?

No one is going to reply to every stupid claim some people make, but one can sure point and laugh at them when those people fall flat on their faces for the umpteenth time. its basic human nature.

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

No one is going to reply to every stupid claim some people make, but one can sure point and laugh at them when those people fall flat on their faces for the umpteenth time. its basic human nature.

Answer his points instead of attacking him. Bhaag Viru Bhaag has consistently owned the likes of @Rajdeep @Devadwal and @Nikhil_cric with his analysis in the same way @mominsaigol has owned them. AkashDeep is a trundler who will be exposed again.

 

[Devadwal]

Answer his points instead of attacking him. Bhaag Viru Bhaag has consistently owned the likes of @Rajdeep @Devadwal and @Nikhil_cric with his analysis in the same way @mominsaigol has owned them. AkashDeep is a trundler who will be exposed again.

Tum jase kitne Abdul ate hai ,fake propaganda spread karne ,sabko humiliated kar chuke.