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Australia v India | 10th ODI | CB Series | Sydney | 24/2/2008

none of the remaining batsmen have the ability to take the bowling apart and score at 8 an over which is needed to come really close
 
Still they are hanging in there....showing some fight

Brett Lee doing his best to help India score 8 runs an over - 3 consecutive no balls and free hits
 
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sunny G just said that lee is the fastest bowler in the world now that shoaib is no longer playing international cricket ?!!?!

friggen idiot ..

worst commentator in the world.
 
kashif77 said:
sunny G just said that lee is the fastest bowler in the world now that shoaib is no longer playing international cricket ?!!?!

friggen idiot ..

worst commentator in the world.
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Wat????? Did sunny really say so .... :O :O

hell... sunny suck$!
 
the fielders becoming spectators, the spectators fielders ..

lol..creative commentary on cricinfo after gambhir's six..
 
Sharma abusing Symonds, Dhoni cheating with illegal gloves and Harbhajan smashing his bat into the turf when dismissed. India did not play within the sprit of the game tonight.

I guess when the BCCI suggested that sledging be banned they dont include their own players. Hypochrites.
 
Salute to Indian youngsters for putting up such brilliant performance :14: :14: !!!!!!!!
 
Fish said:
Sharma abusing Symonds, Dhoni cheating with illegal gloves and Harbhajan smashing his bat into the turf when dismissed. India did not play within the sprit of the game tonight.

I guess when the BCCI suggested that sledging be banned they dont include their own players. Hypochrites.
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well Mr. Fish it was your beloved symmo who bad mouthed sharma first and the teenager just showed him the way( and rightly gave him a few choice words for being a b****).
 
Great Performance by LEEthal and Gilly !! Aussies are nowhere near their best but yet they are the best team out there !!
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O BTW what a come back by the true track bully !! Give him the track, he will give you the runs !!
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Master Blaster said:
Great Performance by LEEthal and Gilly !! Aussies are nowhere near their best but yet they are the best team out there !!
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O BTW what a come back by the true track bully !! Give him the track, he will give you the runs !!
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:))
 
india played well. who would have thought they would reach 300 after such a horrible start. its a good confidence builder against SL.. i want to see ind vs aus final
 
Fish said:
Sharma abusing Symonds, Dhoni cheating with illegal gloves and Harbhajan smashing his bat into the turf when dismissed. India did not play within the sprit of the game tonight.

I guess when the BCCI suggested that sledging be banned they dont include their own players. Hypochrites.
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You forgot to include...Bhaji coughed when the dust went into his mouth. Fish, you're a dweeb.

smashing the bat when out is common in all countries. Indians have never complained about that. The more you try to smudge Aussie CHEATING by pointing fingers at ridiculous things the more we'll laugh at you. :)))
 
So when is our most experienced batsman, the little master, master blaster etc, going to master the ball in this series? What a weak link!
 
Dhonifan said:
You forgot to include...Bhaji coughed when the dust went into his mouth. Fish, you're a dweeb.
smashing the bat when out is common in all countries. Indians have never complained about that. The more you try to smudge Aussie CHEATING by pointing fingers at ridiculous things the more we'll laugh at you. :)))
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Typical of an Indian fan to abuse people. what else do you expect. Didnt your parents teach you anything about being a human. Debate the issue if you can but resorting to abusing the poster just shows you lack intelligence.
 
i cant believe indian fans are not seeing the facts correctly. it was sharma's fault, how in the world could you even blame symonds for starting it. he was only guilty of going as low as that lanky sharma.
 
Fish said:
Typical of an Indian fan to abuse people. what else do you expect. Didnt your parents teach you anything about being a human. Debate the issue if you can but resorting to abusing the poster just shows you lack intelligence.
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sorry, that was uncalled for. didnt mean it either. :)

but how exactly is it cheating to wear wrong gloves? It's not like Dhoni had them made purposely, he was obviously supplied them by bcci who in turn got them from a manufacturer. Umpire says change, he changed. Did he score extra runs with them, or take illegal catches? Oh wait, he did take that stunning catch of Gilchrist so maybe that had something to do with it. :))

Now contrast this with umpire taking Australia's side when they cheat by taking ground catches and captain becomes 4th umpire to give one out himself.

And if you think Ishant cheated by abusing Symmonds, why then you'd have to say every Australian team down to the last man is a cheat over the last decade or two. :14:
 
Dhonifan said:
but how exactly is it cheating to wear wrong gloves? It's not like Dhoni had them made purposely, he was obviously supplied them by bcci who in turn got them from a manufacturer. Umpire says change, he changed. Did he score extra runs with them, or take illegal catches? Oh wait, he did take that stunning catch of Gilchrist so maybe that had something to do with it. :))
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Yes it was a very good catch but because he was wearing illegal gloves it will allways be tainted. There will allways be doubt.
 
nikred said:
well Mr. Fish it was your beloved symmo who bad mouthed sharma first and the teenager just showed him the way( and rightly gave him a few choice words for being a b****).
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No......Sharma gave Symonds a send off and Symonds just had a go back. Not sure what he said, probably something along the lines of 'er mate, you've just been abliterated for 65 runs from 10 overs and we've scored 318, enjoy your send off'.

But yes.......Dhoni did try to cheat with his keeping gloves but it was good that it was sorted out.

Good fightback by India. If their top order had hung around for a bit then they might have had a chance to beat us today. Alas, not good enough.
 
It seems to be a problem a lot of asian fans that they cannot look at the faults of their own team without crying about the Australian team.

Thats where the hypocritical part comes in, you accuse Australia of cheating but when its your own team you expose yourself by saying but the Australians do it. Concentrate real hard now... we are talking about India.

Dhonifan said:
Now contrast this with umpire taking Australia's side when they cheat by taking ground catches and captain becomes 4th umpire to give one out himself.

And if you think Ishant cheated by abusing Symmonds, why then you'd have to say every Australian team down to the last man is a cheat over the last decade or two. :14:
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Fish said:
It seems to be a problem a lot of asian fans that they cannot look at the faults of their own team without crying about the Australian team.

Thats where the hypocritical part comes in, you accuse Australia of cheating but when its your own team you expose yourself by saying but the Australians do it. Concentrate real hard now... we are talking about India.
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YOu still havent replied, how exactly is it cheating to wear wrong gloves, sledge, hit the bat on the ground in frustration? Concentrate on the question and do not be sidetracked if possible. :))

You are dragging every little move Indians make because you don't like to be called cheats after Sydney test, so that is why I am bringing Australia into it. Yes, the Indians are not saints, no one is, but the Australians went over the top at Sydney in their desire to win. The whole world agreed. That is why Bucknor was sacked, the catching agreement scrapped, and ACB told its team to tone down the sledging. Nuff said.
 
great performance by aussies and if the top order can fire then we will beat them. Tendulkar's due a big one and now it'll just have to come in a virtual semifinal tomorrow, and in the finals.
 
Good win for Australia. Great fightback by Gambhir and the lower order despite a poor start. A good confidence builder ahead of the Sri Lanka game.
 
Dhonifan said:
YOu still havent replied, how exactly is it cheating to wear wrong gloves, sledge, hit the bat on the ground in frustration? Concentrate on the question and do not be sidetracked if possible. :))

You are dragging every little move Indians make because you don't like to be called cheats after Sydney test, so that is why I am bringing Australia into it. Yes, the Indians are not saints, no one is, but the Australians went over the top at Sydney in their desire to win. The whole world agreed. That is why Bucknor was sacked, the catching agreement scrapped, and ACB told its team to tone down the sledging. Nuff said.
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Fish has become top class whiner.. just ignore him.. He seems to follow Indians and their action... i heard he has hired a private detective to watch even what they do in restrooms. Little sick.. but that is fish for you :P
 
Saj said:
hmm interesting. I wonder how long he's been using the illegal gloves? Who spotted that the gloves were illegal - somebody must have informed the match referee?
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I think it's Healy in the Channel 9 Comentary room. The ball Dhoni caught off Gilchrist was lodged in the webbing of his right glove and Healy spotted it.
 
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Fish said:
Yes it was a very good catch but because he was wearing illegal gloves it will allways be tainted. There will allways be doubt.
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Just like all those centuries made by Pontong while he used his illegal bat will be tainted. :))
 
Indiafan said:
Just like all those centuries made by Pontong while he used his illegal bat will be tainted. :))
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Thats where I pointed out the hypocracy of Indian fans. Ponting did not break any laws of cricket but Indian fans say the bat he used was illegal without knowing the laws of the game. Dhoni uses gloves that are against the laws of the game and illegal but Indian fans think its the same.

Ponting did not break the laws of the game and Dhoni did but Indian fans just cant understand the difference. I dont know maybe its just an intelligence thing where some people cant understand the laws of the game.
 
Fish said:
Thats where I pointed out the hypocracy of Indian fans. Ponting did not break any laws of cricket but Indian fans say the bat he used was illegal without knowing the laws of the game. Dhoni uses gloves that are against the laws of the game and illegal but Indian fans think its the same.

Ponting did not break the laws of the game and Dhoni did but Indian fans just cant understand the difference. I dont know maybe its just an intelligence thing where some people cant understand the laws of the game.
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Chill was just having a laugh. (See the smiley thingy at the end?)

Anyway just for you


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4720928.stm

Ponting's bat illegal, rules MCC

Ponting's next century won't be saluted with a bat like this
Cricket lawmakers the MCC have ruled that the bat used by Australia's Ricky Ponting, and other cricketers sponsored by maker Kookaburra, is illegal.



There you go and its a BBC source too
 
Thats what I point out here, Ponting had the full support of the ICC to use his bat until a ruling was made, once the ruling was made he did not use the bat. So as you can clearly see unless you dont know how to read Ponting was within the laws of the game.

Australia captain Ricky Ponting will be allowed to use his graphite-coated bat while the International Cricket Council carries out further research.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4554365.stm

And it is from a BBC site.
 
fish, why do you bother with some of the indian fans on this board? they will never get it through their head! dont waste your time convincing them, just have fun
 
world_peace said:
fish, why do you bother with some of the indian fans on this board? they will never get it through their head! dont waste your time convincing them, just have fun
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Why not, whiles away the time doesnt it? and I think this is fun too
 
Fish said:
Thats what I point out here, Ponting had the full support of the ICC to use his bat until a ruling was made, once the ruling was made he did not use the bat. So as you can clearly see unless you dont know how to read Ponting was within the laws of the game.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/4554365.stm

And it is from a BBC site.
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Knew that already but thanks for taking the time to find it. Lets see how ICC actions on dhoni, will they deem that catch illegal? All I saw was a commentator mouthing off about an illegal glove and Dhoni changing it to avoid any conflict. Yet to see ICC claim it was illegal
 
Indiafan said:
Knew that already but thanks for taking the time to find it. Lets see how ICC actions on dhoni, will they deem that catch illegal? All I saw was a commentator mouthing off about an illegal glove and Dhoni changing it to avoid any conflict. Yet to see ICC claim it was illegal
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Dhoni asked to change gloves

Nagraj Gollapudi in Sydney

February 24, 2008

Mahendra Singh Dhoni sports the offending gloves before he was asked to remove them © Getty Images

Mahendra Singh Dhoni was asked to change his wicketkeeping gloves during India's CB Series match against Australia in Sydney after it was found that the webbing between the thumb and the forefinger didn't meet the specifications laid out in the playing conditions.

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/cbs/content/current/story/339600.html
 
Don't understand why you guys ALWAYS argue? The point of posting on a forum(at least for me) is to have a good time but with all this arguing i am not sure how you guys are able enjoy the forum.
 
Fish said:
Dhoni asked to change gloves

Nagraj Gollapudi in Sydney

February 24, 2008

Mahendra Singh Dhoni sports the offending gloves before he was asked to remove them © Getty Images

Mahendra Singh Dhoni was asked to change his wicketkeeping gloves during India's CB Series match against Australia in Sydney after it was found that the webbing between the thumb and the forefinger didn't meet the specifications laid out in the playing conditions.

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/cbs/content/current/story/339600.html
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Found by who? By commentators seeing on TV? As far as I know the match refree has taken it for inspection and nothing was conclusive. surely just by seeing TV replays no one can conclude its beyond the specifications?


Dhoni's take on this

Dhoni said he had used the same pair of gloves earlier in the series. "I don't know what the complication is but gave the gloves to the match referee to avoid further controversy. The one I am using in this competition is a replica of what I had used in the Test series. So I'm not sure what it's all about."

Just because a commentator sooks doesnt make it the ICC law.
 
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PlanetPakistan said:
Don't understand why you guys ALWAYS argue? The point of posting on a forum(at least for me) is to have a good time but with all this arguing i am not sure how you guys are able enjoy the forum.
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Dont take the fun out of foruming. :))

Well, I dont have any problems getting along with the Aussie guys. Most of them are great (might be due to the fact that they are all middle aged guys).
 
Fish.. if you are going to magnify each and every tiny incident and compare with the sydney incidents... to prove that what you did was right.... You gotta understand the problem first. Punter violated the gentleman agreement on catches proposed by himself hence there was question of sportsmanship. So don't compare that with bat hitting the ground, normal response from a bowler to dirty words from a departing batsman. That is pure trashy argument. When Tendulkar was taking the abuse without responding from Symo where were you? Oh you expect every one has to keep quiet so that Mr.oh so precious symo can abuse. The same symo who will say anything, do anything for money or even gaining moral ground !! So stop with your constant whining... Test series over, T20 over, ODI series is also going to be over.
 
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jackal786 said:
Fish.. if you are going to magnify each and every tiny incident and compare with the sydney incidents... to prove that what you did was right.... You gotta understand the problem first. Punter violated the gentleman agreement on catches proposed by himself hence there was question of sportsmanship. So don't compare that with bat hitting the ground, normal response from a bowler to dirty words from a departing batsman. That is pure trashy argument. When Tendulkar was taking the abuse without responding from Symo where were you? Oh you expect every one has to keep quiet so that Mr.oh so precious symo can abuse. The same symo who will say anything, do anything for money or even gaining moral ground !! So stop with your constant whining... Test series over, T20 over, ODI series is also going to be over.
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You still dont get the point do you.

It dosent matter how much you prattle on about Symonds or the Australian team the facts are thaqt Dhoni was breaking the laws of the game, Harbhajan is racist, Sharma and Sreesanth indulge in sledging and all you can do is blame Australia.

Sharma, Dhoni, Sreesanth and Habhajan are not Australian so whatever you say about Australia makes no sense because these players play for India who are calling their players saints but in reality they are worse than the Australian team.
 
Without getting too deeply into the fight here - it is true that the Indian crew seem to easily find an excuse for their own players when they behave badly.

But happily slander any Aussie player for allegedly cheating. So Ponting cheated by abiding by the agreement between the captains on disputed catches? Was not against the laws of cricket - you can argue it was poor sportsmanship though.

But when the Indian captain used illegal gloves in a game (clearly against the laws) we hear nothing. When Ganguly tries to cheat by claiming an obvious bump catch in a WC final we hear no comment from the Indians.

But people can happily say Symonds "will do anything for money" and think that is fact.

That is why these arguments keep going (from the Aussie point of view anyway) because posters keep acting like the Indian team are angels and the Aussies evil cheaters when the two are actually pretty close in (bad) behaviour. But you won't get an admission of this so the arguments continue on and on.
 
Fish, I doubt Harbhajan or most Indians even realize that Symmonds is not white, he looks whiter than almost all Indians.. and Indians never even sledged black players from Carribean with racist connotations so why they would go after symmo in a racist way ? Bhajji is not a racist, he is just hot headed like that embarrassing Sreesanth... good that he was taken apart by both Lankans and Aussies... the monkey-gate episode was a result of miscommunication.... Bhajji called Symmo something worse than a monkey though, that refers to Symmo's mom.... but he aint a racist, just a reactionary, touchy bloke... however, I do agree with you that branding all Aussies as cheats by some of my over-zealous countrymen is also not correct.
 
Here is real reason:
this Symonds guy is somewhat jealous of the niceties Indian cricketers enjoy. he also seems to be obsessed and tiffed about him (aussie team) not being appreciated as much as they deserve. also, all the success all these years has somewhat got in his head.

Only thing he should realize is that acting hot headed and foul like this is not going to go any good for them either. While Aussie team is a top class cricket unit, he cant expect the opposition to take lick their a$$e$. imagine, he was able to provoke 19 year old ishant!
 
Fish said:
You still dont get the point do you.

It dosent matter how much you prattle on about Symonds or the Australian team the facts are thaqt Dhoni was breaking the laws of the game, Harbhajan is racist, Sharma and Sreesanth indulge in sledging and all you can do is blame Australia.

Sharma, Dhoni, Sreesanth and Habhajan are not Australian so whatever you say about Australia makes no sense because these players play for India who are calling their players saints but in reality they are worse than the Australian team.
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To achieve that they have to do it 24/7/100 years. Still a long way to go. :P
 
Fish said:
You still dont get the point do you.

It dosent matter how much you prattle on about Symonds or the Australian team the facts are thaqt Dhoni was breaking the laws of the game, Harbhajan is racist, Sharma and Sreesanth indulge in sledging and all you can do is blame Australia.

Sharma, Dhoni, Sreesanth and Habhajan are not Australian so whatever you say about Australia makes no sense because these players play for India who are calling their players saints but in reality they are worse than the Australian team.
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By the way Indians criticize bhajji too.... First you start criticizing your saint symo before preaching others.
 
jackal786 said:
By the way Indians criticize bhajji too.... First you start criticizing your saint symo before preaching others.
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if everyone would stop throwing baseless insults at Symonds like "jealous" of the Indian players and and "monkey" all the time you might see some criticism of Symonds - there has been a fair bit about his Pakistan comments btw - but if you keep insulting him in a baseless (and racist from some) way you are just going to cop it back.
 
Saj said:
hmm interesting. I wonder how long he's been using the illegal gloves? Who spotted that the gloves were illegal - somebody must have informed the match referee?
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Probably Gilchrist due to him knowing what is required for wicket-keeping gloves
 
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Random Aussie said:
Which team is the most reported and charged under the laws of cricket?
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We have gone through this several times. In this case Symo said something then Ishant reacted. But Ishant is the one who is pulled up.
 
Random Aussie said:
That is why these arguments keep going (from the Aussie point of view anyway) because posters keep acting like the Indian team are angels and the Aussies evil cheaters when the two are actually pretty close in (bad) behaviour. But you won't get an admission of this so the arguments continue on and on.
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This is basically the crux of it from an OZ POV. We accept our players are not angels - but we're not seeing it from the other side I guess. At the end of the day there's not much differentiating the two sides. Humans will be human, whether they were born in India or in OZ.
 
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We have gone through this several times. In this case Symo said something then Ishant reacted. But Ishant is the one who is pulled up.
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Because pointing to the pavilion when you get a batsman out is prohibited under the code of conduct, regardless of what was said.

Sharma abused Symonds, Symonds abused Sharma fine - but there is a specific rule that you cannot point to the pavilion when you get a batsman out and that is why Sharma got fined.
 
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