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Australia v India | 3rd Test | December 26-30, 2014 | MCG

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Rogers is playing a blinder here. Some delightful shots underpressure.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
If Dhoni was any good, he would realize Australia are going to try to push for a win, and have four slips and an attacking field to get that outside edge.

Just like Rogers had one edge going through vacant first slip.

But as usual, clueless defensive Dhoni will be looking to see how much India gets to chase and try to draw or chase it down and fail.
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very poor fielding against Smith who is a newcomer. I think Dhoni thinks he is still batting on 192..:yk
 
If Australia was to set a target it will be 400 plus. I see a good chance for India to draw this..
 
Camera was insufficient to give any clear indication when view of the ball was blocked by the gloves covering it. Benefit of doubt rightly given to batsman.
 
Dr Bassim is right.

When Australia reached 131-3, a positive Pakistani skipper like Imran Khan or Wasim Akram would have gone with 3 slips and 2 gullies for a quick at one end and a medium pacer or spinner locking down the other end.

The aim would be to ramp up the pressure so that 131-3 became 145-5 and 167-7 and 180 all out.

We saw it at Wellington with Shoaib Akhtar a few years ago.

Pakistan trailed by 170 on First Innings, yet still Shoaib cranked it up several gears to win the Test.

Unfortunately, India don't seem to know how to play in these positions.

 
Some unwritten rules for India series in Australia :

-All 50-50 decisions will go with Aussies.
-Touring team shall receive 10 howlers atleast.
-If you you are unhappy about this, and dare to speak up, then you are termed one Indian crybaby jo phir se ro raha hai. :sree

It is 3rd Test now, and it will only be fair if we get some 50-50 calls going our way at the very least.
 
Why are they bowling short and leg side to Australian batsmen? Yes they got Smith but it's going to cost a lot of runs per wicket
 
Electron said:
Some unwritten rules for India series in Australia :

-All 50-50 decisions will go with Aussies.
-Touring team shall receive 10 howlers atleast.
-If you you are unhappy about this, and dare to speak up, then you are termed one Indian crybaby jo phir se ro raha hai. :sree

It is 3rd Test now, and it will only be fair if we get some 50-50 calls going our way at the very least.
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Don't forget that no matter the state of the game, Indian fans will find something to cry about.
 
Hayden says 3rd umpire should have given it out. No clear evidence to overturn on-field umps decisin of out.
 
Electron said:
Some unwritten rules for India series in Australia :

-All 50-50 decisions will go with Aussies.
-Touring team shall receive 10 howlers atleast.
-If you you are unhappy about this, and dare to speak up, then you are termed one Indian crybaby jo phir se ro raha hai. :sree

It is 3rd Test now, and it will only be fair if we get some 50-50 calls going our way at the very least.
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Why are smart and thoughtful people like you and Ramalli Rotti writing this stuff?

I'm no great fan of either side. But the reason why Australia's bowlers are getting more marginal decisions is not bias or corruption, it's because they are creating a lot more wicket-taking opportunities, because your bowlers can't bowl.

I think Indian fans are used to watching Indian telecasts which don't use the DRS super slo-mo / snicko / ball-tracker, so they don't understand how many decisions are always dodgy when you don't use DRS.

It's India who held Cricket Australia to ransom by insisting upon no DRS as a condition of touring. The consequence was inevitable - there would be bad decisions.

India has some valid concerns about DRS, but by refusing to enter the discussion they don't get heard. I wish they's just sign up for DRS, then use their power at the ICC to ensure that necessary modifications are made.
 
Junaids said:
Why are smart and thoughtful people like you and Ramalli Rotti writing this stuff?

I'm no great fan of either side. But the reason why Australia's bowlers are getting more marginal decisions is not bias or corruption, it's because they are creating a lot more wicket-taking opportunities, because your bowlers can't bowl.
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I am sorry but I will have to disagree here. If you look at most matches, Aussies are 4-5 down early, and from that stage, the difference between getting a team all-out cheaply and watching them score another 200 is matter of one or two close calls.
 
Dhoni has become so rigid with his body movement that he can't get down on time or even dive properly to claim reasonably-catch-able catches,
 
In first test 2nd Innings there were two lbws not given of Lyon's bowling and a couple of half chances were turned down as well. Not sure why Indians are crying?
 
Anfield said:
In first test 2nd Innings there were two lbws not given of Lyon's bowling and a couple of half chances were turned down as well. Not sure why Indians are crying?
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After first 2 Tests, there were 8 bad decisions against India compared to 2 against Aussies. When two equally matched sides collide, in close matches, this decides the outcome.

I started this topic, so I'll stop here cuz thread shouldn't go elsewhere, but it is frustrating. After 4 years we match a hyped up opposition at their home, and we have nothing to show for it !
 
Electron said:
After first 2 Tests, there were 8 bad decisions against India compared to 2 against Aussies. When two equally matched sides collide, in close matches, this decides the outcome.

I started this topic, so I'll stop here cuz thread shouldn't go elsewhere, but it is frustrating. After 4 years we match a hyped up opposition at their home, and we have nothing to show for it !
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They don't get it because they are not on the receiving end currently, so far I think 90 percent of the 50-50 calls have gone in Aus's favor, while none for India......
 
Electron said:
After first 2 Tests, there were 8 bad decisions against India compared to 2 against Aussies. When two equally matched sides collide, in close matches, this decides the outcome.

I started this topic, so I'll stop here cuz thread shouldn't go elsewhere, but it is frustrating. After 4 years we match a hyped up opposition at their home, and we have nothing to show for it !
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How did you match them? If you have bowled as horribly as any team could or even couldn't.

Half chances can go either way. You can't claim them and say that we were hard done. In first test 2nd innings only there were two clear outs not given and two very close half chances,, according to your maths.. that's four decisions.
 
Is Dhoni stupid?

The pitch has turn and he could have used Ashwin to get wickets/block one end up and use a pacer from another end.

Last session. If we don't let Aussies run away with a good rpo, we could save more time. :(
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Is Dhoni stupid?

The pitch has turn and he could have used Ashwin to get wickets/block one end up and use a pacer from another end.

Last session. If we don't let Aussies run away with a good rpo, we could save more time. :(
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That may be what Ravi Shahstri instructed :13:
 
Anfield said:
How did you match them? If you have bowled as horribly as any team could or even couldn't.

Half chances can go either way. You can't claim them and say that we were hard done. In first test 2nd innings only there were two clear outs not given and two very close half chances,, according to your maths.. that's four decisions.
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Australia's scores -

266/5
247/6
122/6
216/5
176/5 right now..

This is when they have had 50-50 chances going their way. Imagine Aussies being jolted with 2 howlers per innings from that stage, and Indian bowling card will start looking different from the way it ended up looking.

Reverse the situation for batting too, and Aussie bowlers would also start looking average if they weren't gifted those crucial breakthroughs. I can understand why you wouldn't want to believe that India matched Australia, and tbh, I am fine even if you hold that view.
 
Australian middle order bar smith has been well below par, if not lower order heroics,and rubbish bowling from india,it could easily have been 1-1.
 
Electron said:
Australia's scores -

266/5
247/6
122/6
216/5
176/5 right now..

This is when they have had 50-50 chances going their way. Imagine Aussies being jolted with 2 howlers per innings from that stage, and Indian bowling card will start looking different from the way it ended up looking.

Reverse the situation for batting too, and Aussie bowlers would also start looking average if they weren't gifted those crucial breakthroughs. I can understand why you wouldn't want to believe that India matched Australia, and tbh, I am fine even if you hold that view.
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Poor captaincy and poor bowling let the tail wagged. Howlers are not equal to half chances.
 
Anfield said:
Poor captaincy and poor bowling let the tail wagged. Howlers are not equal to half chances.
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Let's not even talk about half chances. 8 howlers spread across two Tests is enough to make a difference from such delicate situations.

Aussies were lucky, we weren't. Imagine 2 AUssie wickets being gifted to India at this stage, and maybe then you will start seeing how this works. If you still refuse to accept that, it's alright.
 
Electron said:
Let's not even talk about half chances. 8 howlers spread across two Tests is enough to make a difference from such delicate situations.

Aussies were lucky, we weren't. Imagine 2 AUssie wickets being gifted to India at this stage, and maybe then you will start seeing how this works. If you still refuse to accept that, it's alright.
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8 howlers? I thought you were talking about half chances. Didn't know about the howlers. Can you give links of cricinfo of those howlers?
 
Electron said:
Let's not even talk about half chances. 8 howlers spread across two Tests is enough to make a difference from such delicate situations.

Aussies were lucky, we weren't. Imagine 2 AUssie wickets being gifted to India at this stage, and maybe then you will start seeing how this works. If you still refuse to accept that, it's alright.
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When BCCI refuses to accept technology that works for 9 out of 10 test playing nations, last thing you should be complaining about is tough decisions.

I hope every decision goes against India, (not because I hate the Indian team, I actually admire quite a few players), but because perhaps it will make BCCI realize that they can't ignore DRS for wrong.

I wish infact, every EVERY marginal decision from now on goes against India.
 
Electron said:
Let's not even talk about half chances. 8 howlers spread across two Tests is enough to make a difference from such delicate situations.

Aussies were lucky, we weren't. Imagine 2 AUssie wickets being gifted to India at this stage, and maybe then you will start seeing how this works. If you still refuse to accept that, it's alright.
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mate whining over what has already happened isn't going to change anything
 
Dr_Bassim said:
When BCCI refuses to accept technology that works for 9 out of 10 test playing nations, last thing you should be complaining about is tough decisions.

I hope every decision goes against India, (not because I hate the Indian team, I actually admire quite a few players), but because perhaps it will make BCCI realize that they can't ignore DRS for wrong.

I wish infact, every EVERY marginal decision from now on goes against India.
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well.. unless he himself is against DRS or on BCCI's payroll he can complain about poor decisions.
 
Shaheerthe2nd said:
mate whining over what has already happened isn't going to change anything
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Actually the combined impact is a bit like Aussies being automatically declared all-out now, and our first 3 batsmen being given 3 chances. It's no wonder they're winning, because any of those decisions would have shifted the balance, but cumulatively it's impossible to win with such poor umpiring.
 
Of course Indians can complain about biased umpiring.

I didn't stop that.

But unless decisions like that regularly go in opposition teams' direction, fans won't get angry enough, players won't get hard done by, and players will not push BCCI to accepting DRS.

Players like Dhoni might have a huge say in DRS acceptance, if EVERY decision goes against India.

Fine, you don't like umpiring decisions, use technology.

Seems to me, you don't like umpires, you don't like the technology as it is, yet you still want to find a way to achieve perfection or get rid of perceived bias.

Next tour it wouldn't surprise me if BCCI start asking for Indian umpires instead of neutral umpires on Indian matches, instead of accepting DRS.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
When BCCI refuses to accept technology that works for 9 out of 10 test playing nations, last thing you should be complaining about is tough decisions.

I hope every decision goes against India, (not because I hate the Indian team, I actually admire quite a few players), but because perhaps it will make BCCI realize that they can't ignore DRS for wrong.

I wish infact, every EVERY marginal decision from now on goes against India.
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I would wish that too, but as Cricket fans, we have to stay honest about what we see. There wasn't much between two sides, and yet India is being bashed for being rubbish.

Be it bowling or batting, there wasn't much between the two sides.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
Conveniently dodging the reality of how biased the umpiring has been.
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Do you really mean that?

Why on earth would a Sri Lankan and an Englishman favour Australia over India? It's a bizarre accusation.

These are two top umpires, but they get some of the marginal decisions wrong, plus the odd howler - which is what DRS is there to correct.

If you're complaining about marginal decisions, by definition they are marginal and might go the wrong way.

And if you're talking about howlers, well that's what DRS is for.

But you seem to be implying corruption or cheating.
 
CricketAnalyst said:
Actually the combined impact is a bit like Aussies being automatically declared all-out now, and our first 3 batsmen being given 3 chances. It's no wonder they're winning, because any of those decisions would have shifted the balance, but cumulatively it's impossible to win with such poor umpiring.
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You are usually a decent poster, stop your sooking. Oh noes the whole world is against us :yk
 
If India can knock out Aussies here quickly , get rid of the tail , this can be a great thriller.
 
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