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Australia v India | 3rd Test | December 26-30, 2014 | MCG

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Indian bowling perfoamnce in the series so far -

266/5
247/6
122/6
216/5
206/6

Great performances against the top order. :14:
 
Electron said:
Indian bowling perfoamnce in the series so far -

266/5
247/6
122/6
216/5
206/6

Great performances against the top order. :14:
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The talent is there - not counting Shami who is no good IMO - but they aren't disciplined enough and don't stick at their lines for long enough.
 
Random Aussie said:
The talent is there - not counting Shami who is no good IMO - but they aren't disciplined enough and don't stick at their lines for long enough.
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They shouldn't really have let them make over 350 in any inning, lower order saved them everytime.
 
Random Aussie said:
The talent is there - not counting Shami who is no good IMO - but they aren't disciplined enough and don't stick at their lines for long enough.
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There is a pattern to this :
- Warner attacked, Indian bowlers looked clueless.
- Middle order focused more on consolidating, that's when Indian bowlers looked in control and got wickets.
- Lower order attacked, and the bowling was back to being clueless again.

So basically, everytime Indian bowlers face an assault, their lines and control falters.
 
Game is even stevens. Can go either way tomorrow. All depends on King Kohli
 
There is no guile in Ashwin's bowling. He is not bowling a bad line but there is no spin or drift to trouble batsmen.
 
Electron said:
Some unwritten rules for India series in Australia :

-All 50-50 decisions will go with Aussies.
-Touring team shall receive 10 howlers atleast.
-If you you are unhappy about this, and dare to speak up, then you are termed one Indian crybaby jo phir se ro raha hai. :sree

It is 3rd Test now, and it will only be fair if we get some 50-50 calls going our way at the very least.
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Um...Electron phir ro rahe hain?

There's a solution to your problem. Just call for a referral. Oh wait...


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Ashwin doing the stare down reminds me of try hard subcontinent types who work in nightclub security.
 
I reckon have a slog and declare with 6 overs to go before stumps. I know we only need to draw this Test to win the series and India need to do the running since they are 2-0 behind but let's try and fournil them


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OZGOD said:
I reckon have a slog and declare with 6 overs to go before stumps. I know we only need to draw this Test to win the series and India need to do the running since they are 2-0 behind but let's try and fournil them


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Don't think the wicket has deteriorated enough for Aussies to bowl out Indian batting for less than 300 given that Jhonson is in such a hot and cold form.
 
The difference between the two tails is just amazing .. they've won this series for the aussies.
 
I'm driving back to Sydney from Kiama so just listening to the radio commentary. What's the wicket like and what do you guys reckon it will be like tomorrow? Worse than Adelaide?


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@Some Indians here - sorry about this, but don't complain about umpiring please. Aussies have no chance buying out umpires over the cash laden BCCI - so accept them as regular umpiring mistakes and move on. It makes us look like sore losers. India's bowling has been so indisciplined (and Dhoni's employment of the bowlers badder still) that they would have still lost the series without those decisions. If you are letting the last five men get 200-300 runs at 6rpo every time then this outcome is inevitable.
 
OZGOD said:
I'm driving back to Sydney from Kiama so just listening to the radio commentary. What's the wicket like and what do you guys reckon it will be like tomorrow? Worse than Adelaide?


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Still good for batting.
On cricinfo they said will stay good for batting even on day 5.

3 tests and all 3 great batting tracks.
Where r the real aus wickets?!?!?!
 
pakistani pride said:
Still good for batting.
On cricinfo they said will stay good for batting even on day 5.

3 tests and all 3 great batting tracks.
Where r the real aus wickets?!?!?!
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MCG track doesn't usually deteriorate much. These are our wickets, they are generally flat with a lot of bounce. Also both teams bowling has been a bit lackluster and the batting good. Neither team has used the new ball well.
 
OZGOD said:
I'm driving back to Sydney from Kiama so just listening to the radio commentary. What's the wicket like and what do you guys reckon it will be like tomorrow? Worse than Adelaide?


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I don't think that Smith has the courage of Pup.

I think he should declare overnight to set up the game, but I fear that he will instead bat for 40 minutes to move the equation from 327 in 96 overs to 377 in 85 overs.

But it's not an ODI.
 
Junaids said:
I don't think that Smith has the courage of Pup.

I think he should declare overnight to set up the game, but I fear that he will instead bat for 40 minutes to move the equation from 327 in 96 overs to 377 in 85 overs.

But it's not an ODI.
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It is not fair to expect that courage from Smith anyway. He is young and into his second test as a captain.
 
pakistani pride said:
Will be a draw.
both teams will be happy with that.
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India's best chance for a draw. India can't win from here. The longer the Aussies take to declare the better. If Australia declare at stumps, they have the best chance but it would be a bit risky seeing Kohli and Rahane toy with Mich yesterday.
 
pakistani pride said:
Still good for batting.
On cricinfo they said will stay good for batting even on day 5.

3 tests and all 3 great batting tracks.
Where r the real aus wickets?!?!?!
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Which Aussie pitch has swung that much??Its always the bounce.
 
Australia is visibly wary of India. They will not declare until drinks in the first session tomorrow. They will not risk series win for glory. Smith ain't got guts.
 
pakistani pride said:
Nah..
aus will bat 10 overs or so.

the likes of vijay kohli rahane will make sure india bat all day.

this wicket is flat and a draw looks certain.
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Vijay can play the draw game. Not sure of Kohli, he isn't the kind of batsman who can play out the waiting game. Pujara in form can grind out a draw.
 
Australia should play 10 more overs , add another 50 or so. Then go all out attack , I am pretty sure India will succumb.
 
Junaids said:
I don't think that Smith has the courage of Pup.

I think he should declare overnight to set up the game, but I fear that he will instead bat for 40 minutes to move the equation from 327 in 96 overs to 377 in 85 overs.

But it's not an ODI.
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Well you've been talking all match about how flat the wicket is. If it's flatter than Adelaide they will probably need at least 350 to be safe. Draw will do for them so it would be silly to take an unnecessary risk. India need to push the game forward to keep the series alive, so dangle 370 for them to chase, knowing they have 3 players in form, another than can score runs quickly, and another that is due a big score, and knowing they flogged the No1 OZ bowler around back on day 3.
 
OZGOD said:
Well you've been talking all match about how flat the wicket is. If it's flatter than Adelaide they will probably need at least 350 to be safe. Draw will do for them so it would be silly to take an unnecessary risk. India need to push the game forward to keep the series alive, so dangle 370 for them to chase, knowing they have 3 players in form, another than can score runs quickly, and another that is due a big score, and knowing they flogged the No1 OZ bowler around back on day 3.
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Indian win is unlikely. Chasing 350 is simply not possible in the 4th innings. If India try to win, they will lose like they did at Adelaide, perhaps even crumble for less than 200. India can draw the match if they put in the effort.
 
If India starts playing for a draw I expect them to fold. Even though the batting line up is great but I don't think they have in them to play out for a draw.
 
We need to bat time here. Nothing rash. Just plat the ball on merit and not lose wickets. Unless of course we take 3 cheap wickets early tomorrow which I dont see happening.
 
Little Master said:
If India starts playing for a draw I expect them to fold. Even though the batting line up is great but I don't think they have in them to play out for a draw.
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If they start playing for a win also, they would fold chasing 370 odd. So the better option is to go down fighting? I think there are so many white washes and losses these days because visiting teams simply do not have the draw game. Weaker Indian teams have drawn these matches in the past. Vijay and an in form Pujara have the ability to draw from this situation, let us see what they do.
 
I think, AUS 'll bat for 6 overs - take the lead beyond 350. 2 overs for innings change.

IND 'll be given 90 overs to chase 350.... 90 overs is very critical, because I am sure they would like to bowl 10 overs with the 2nd new ball to Indian bottom half.

Still 3-0 for me - wicket 'll break a lot once the Aussies roll the heaviest roller tomorrow morning & before MS, top 6 'll go for the win.

By the way, if Aussies play for a draw, most likely IND 'll win this match - AUS doesn't know how to play negative cricket. Yesterday, I was listening to Sky expert (Rob Key, I guess) analysis after Indian innings - that 10 minutes session actually gave me a clue why, despite being the inventor of cricket, in 140 years AUS has a clear head to head domination over ENG. There is a big difference in approach & thought process.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
No we can still lose.
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Whatever the target, India's going to try and chase it down unless it's over 8 RPO. I am utterly positive of that.

I also have a strange suspicion that if the required rate is somewhere like 6 or 7, they could go ballistic and end up doing a lot better than if the target is more manageable.
 
IndianWillow said:
If they start playing for a win also, they would fold chasing 370 odd. So the better option is to go down fighting? I think there are so many white washes and losses these days because visiting teams simply do not have the draw game. Weaker Indian teams have drawn these matches in the past. Vijay and an in form Pujara have the ability to draw from this situation, let us see what they do.
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You're down 2-0. What's the point of drawing. Have to go for a win, no matter what. More importantly, whatever anyone thinks, they probably will go for it.
 
First put 350 on the board then they can declare with India to take their chances for a win, otherwise it will be a draw and a moral victory for India.

I would declare at around 350 lead and then full on attack to have India for under 75/3 by lunch.

Kohli if he's not out already will try and play negative if under pressure.
 
Australia v India | 3rd Test | December 26-30, 2014 | MCG | Day 5

Australia 530 & 7/261 | Lead by 326.
India 465

All three results possibe.
 
9.30 am "We need more runs," David Warner said yesterday after the match even though the Australian lead had swelled to 326 by the end of the day. It was partly due to that chase in Adelaide, Warner mentioned, and partly because it was still a good batting pitch, better than what the Adelaide strip had been. Since the start of this millenium (only at the MCG), the best 4th innings total to win a match has been 2 for 231, and that happened last year during the Ashes. The second-best is 1 for 181, by South Africa in 2008. What is more interesting is the run-rates in these chases - 4.45 last year and 3.81 in 2008, and that probably gives one an idea about the nature of this pitch. Will Australia declare at 350? Will India be able to bowl them out quickly? Will Australia stretch it to 400 and close all doors? A fantastic last day awaits yet again..

"Day one, 259 runs 5 wickets, day two, 379 runs 6 wickets, day three, 354 runs 7 wickets, Day four, 264 runs 9 wickets, so 326 is only 50 odd runs from the highest scoring day 2, " says rickyvoncanterb, suggesting India will need to score at a brisk pace on the last day to win this one.

"What's the forecast looking like today fellas? If a full day is likely I'd like to see the Aussies leave the carrot there for India to create more wicket taking opportunities. If we're likely to lose an hour or more due to rain, shut up shop, give Marsh the chance to get his ton, and secure the series" ---- Deano, some afternoon showers expected, but don't take my word as I am not an expert in an area in which even the experts struggle. On top of that, it's the Melbourne weather.. But yes, there could be a break like yesterday. Ninety-eight overs to be bowled today, match starts 30 min early.

"I highly doubt there will be a delay anything like yesterday's. The forecast is for a 50% chance of a shower and the expected rainfall amount is a mere 0 to 0.4 mm. If India draw this Test, it won't be the weather that saves them, they'll need to bat out of their skins." ---- Sam, I trust your forecast more than mine.

"People forget that 4th innings chases of 300+ are very, VERY rare. There have only been 8 successful chases of 350+ in all 2000+ Tests. Historically, more than 60% of sides chasing 300+ in the 4th innings have lost and less than a third have saved the draw." ---- Agreed, Mark. How come you are the not the first one to comment?

From cricinfo
 
Very much wanted to stay up and watch the match today for my Indian friends on PP as Kohli has a 100% record of making a century when I watch him live. However, rain has spoilt my plans and I no longer have the will to stay up.
 
Australia should give it a complete go for 10 overs and hopefully set a lead of 375.

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Batting very slow at the moment 2 overs for 2 runs.

Don't think they going for bat only 10 overs.
 
Yawnnn boring. Australia know this is a dead game so won't give India a sniff like they did in 1st test, this is a draw
 
This is surprising. Think India scared them when they were on track to chase 363 in the last test.

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Australians batting out for a draw, looks like Rahane and Kholi has casted some major doubt into their heads... Now I am happy with this Indian side for the first time in this series.
 
We are up late in Yorkshire enjoying this boring slow-paced innings with nothing happening.

We love it.
 
Series is over folks. Move on now. I miss Clarke.
 
Aus can still win it if Ind loses 2-3 quick wickets. Indians still need to bat for 80-85 overs.
 
A bit surprising but each captain is different. I guess he wants to make sure the trophy is ours by the end of today.
 
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