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Australia v India | 3rd Test | December 26-30, 2014 | MCG

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We will have to agree to disagree.

I thought that on comeback in the third Test against South Africa at Perth in 2012-13 he was pretty good (2-54 and 4-110), and then against Sri Lanka I thought he was very good indeed (4-63, 2-16, 0-58, 3-34).

He then had only 1 Test in India at Delhi in which he was wicketless in 19 overs and he was out of the team and the squad!

So his 2012-13 home record was
3 Tests
15 wickets for 335
Average 22.33

Batting Innings: 7, 3, 92*, 13, 1*, average 37.67.

So I think it was a typical Mickey Arthur mistake to blackball him from the Ashes squad. I think Mitchell Johnson's renaissance started a year earlier than it is generally recognised to have.

In addition, he busted Sangakkara's hand in that time!

I think Johnson was almost unselectable by the time of his serious injury in South Africa in late 2011. But the biggest error of the Mickey Arthur era was that in the Test against Sri Lanka in which Jackson Bird debuted he was excessively impressed by Bird's control and couldn't recognise how lethal Johnson was becoming at home.

In the second innings of that Test Johnson took 2-16 in 8 overs, and removed 2 Sri Lankans whom he injured to the point that they couldn't return to bat.

Yet in the next Test Arthur had Johnson reduced to 4th seamer duties, with Starc, Bird and Siddle given the ball before him.

After match figures of 22-2-79-6 in the previous match!
 
India has done well here. Ashwin is coming of age, I guess, he bowled really well. Ishant has been a disappointment, like he always is. Smith is the key, if they can remove him early, they can get the Aussies within 350. But India will be batting fourth, so they have to bat really well and get a lead, else the Aussies are going to walk away with this rather easily.
 
Aus should score 500 plus tomorrow, Haddin has got his eye in and Johnson and Co will flog this bowling attack. India tomorrow will be 120/5 close of play, BOOK IT............
 
But India will be batting fourth, so they have to bat really well and get a lead, else the Aussies are going to walk away with this rather easily.

Lead ? I hope you are being sarcastic here, there wont be any lead from the Indians no matter how well they bat...
 
Aus set for 450+, when we bat, we will start well, look like scoring 400 get out for 325-350.

Aus will then bat us out of the game in the 3rd innings and win by 150-200 runs.

Also the pitch will become near impossible to bat by day 4 lunch time, already has lot of uneven bounce
 
Aus should score 500 plus tomorrow, Haddin has got his eye in and Johnson and Co will flog this bowling attack. India tomorrow will be 120/5 close of play, BOOK IT............

I reckon it's going to be heaps closer than you think Romali. Haddo will be effectively starting on nought again tomorrow and Jonno and co are hit and miss. We should at least get 350 but 500 will be a stretch and the Indian batting will be a handful on the wicket.
 
Is this the slowest the australia have played in recent times...a run rate less than 3 !!!

Good bowling by India... Smith is growing day by day ...For someone who was thought to be a T20 player has become a fantastic test player with great temperment...first 1 hr of his play showed how matured he has become.
 
Well at least we didn't let OZ score at 3.5 an over. I saw a bit of Shami bowling before going to college and he really has regressed. Bowling short down the legside to Rogers :facepalm: . At this rate I would rather bhuvi bowled. He may be a 120 kph trundler but at least he can bowl straight. Depressing bowling.
 
That depends on how much our bowlers concede. 350 is definitely gettable for India.

And we have let their tail score very freely until now so unless our bowling proves to be effective at cleaning the tail, we can forget about the lead for the moment.
 
Is this the slowest the australia have played in recent times...a run rate less than 3 !!!

Good bowling by India... Smith is growing day by day ...For someone who was thought to be a T20 player has become a fantastic test player with great temperment...first 1 hr of his play showed how matured he has become.

Well at least we didn't let OZ score at 3.5 an over. I saw a bit of Shami bowling before going to college and he really has regressed. Bowling short down the legside to Rogers :facepalm: . At this rate I would rather bhuvi bowled. He may be a 120 kph trundler but at least he can bowl straight. Depressing bowling.

This wicket is not conductive to quick and high scoring.

350 here may be worth 450 in Adelaide
 
Australia v India | 3rd Test | December 26-30, 2014 | MCG | Day 2

Australia will start their 1st innings from 5/259.

Steven Smith not out on 72 and Haddin not out on 23.

Can they make it 450+?
 
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Interesting morning coming up. So far in this series, this sort of time where it's pretty even has tended to be the time where it all goes wrong for India. Can they roll us for 300ish?
 
Bravo Haddin

you made 29 runs, he needs to finally make some runs, last time he scored some runs were probably against England where he usually starts to play
 
Haddin on his way to a 100, this bowling side is pathetic I dont think I have seen a more pathetic site in test cricket...
 
Just bowling too short. They just don't learn from their mistakes.

Pitch it up - you will not get LBW, bowled and edges without getting the ball up. Short delivery should only be a suprise tactic once in a while.
 
One principle of cricket bowling is to drive batsman. Pitch the ball up, hit 6-4 m marks with tighter lines.

Indian seamers are hoping for things to happen, you got a be brave with your lengths...


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Just bowling too short. They just don't learn from their mistakes.

Pitch it up - you will not get LBW, bowled and edges without getting the ball up. Short delivery should only be a suprise tactic once in a while.

You can't fix stupid.

Our strategy is stupid.

Our bowlers as lame as they may be won't pitch it short if not asked to do it.

Guess who is behind our strategy?
 
You can't fix stupid.

Our strategy is stupid.

Our bowlers as lame as they may be won't pitch it short if not asked to do it.

Guess who is behind our strategy?

Bowlers need to think for themselves. Someone like Sharma should know by now his job is to hit the top of off stump.

But this is his 3rd tour and he's still bowling rubbish short stuff - that too against players who are good on the backfoot.

They just don't think, it's 1 thing having a bad strategy but you need to change your plan when something is not working.

I really don't think the Indian bowling is bad in terms of ability - it's just the mindset is so wrong.
 
Bowlers need to think for themselves. Someone like Sharma should know by now his job is to hit the top of off stump.

But this is his 3rd tour and he's still bowling rubbish short stuff - that too against players who are good on the backfoot.

They just don't think, it's 1 thing having a bad strategy but you need to change your plan when something is not working.

I really don't think the Indian bowling is bad in terms of ability - it's just the mindset is so wrong.

Ideally we need an Imran Khan to guide our bowlers. But that's asking too much.

A Zaheer Khan would be a great guide for these bowlers who have no brains too.
 
Ideally we need an Imran Khan to guide our bowlers. But that's asking too much.

A Zaheer Khan would be a great guide for these bowlers who have no brains too.

These Indian bowlers should play a season of county cricket - first class 4 day cricket.

Even Zaheer improved after he played county cricket. Unfortunately 20-20 is the first priority for many cricketers these days
Which they learn nothing.
 
This guy is in supreme form, great temperament... What a transformation in year or two!!!


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Brad Haddington Out, a bit unlucky.

Badly needed wicket for India but damage already done.
 
Switched on the television just to watch another blistering knock by Mo' Johnson
 
Ian Chappell hits the nail on the head.

Horrible captaincy and strategy by Dhoni, but the bowlers were dumb as well to follow the strategy.
 
Ian Chappell hits the nail on the head.

Horrible captaincy and strategy by Dhoni, but the bowlers were dumb as well to follow the strategy.

Huh?

So a captain asks you to follow a strategy and a newbie bowler would have the guts to say no?

Now our bowlers can't execute any plans but that is another discussion.
 
chappell is a sad old man who's got a chip on his shoulder because of what happened to his brother.
 
Huh?

So a captain asks you to follow a strategy and a newbie bowler would have the guts to say no?

Now our bowlers can't execute any plans but that is another discussion.

A good bowler will say "captain this is not working let's go back to plan a".

But seriously as bad strategy as it was by the captain he could not have devised it on his own without the bowlers backing so they take some responsibility as well.

How many Tests has Ishant played now ?? A good bowler leading the pack will tell the captain where he wants the field and what the tactics should be, end of.
 
A good bowler will say "captain this is not working let's go back to plan a".

But seriously as bad strategy as it was by the captain he could not have devised it on his own without the bowlers backing so they take some responsibility as well.

How many Tests has Ishant played now ?? A good bowler leading the pack will tell the captain where he wants the field and what the tactics should be, end of.

Its not as easy as it looks.

But bowlers of course need to be blamed also.

For example - Dhoni placed a leg slip and asked Yadav to bowl short to one lefty yesterday (forgot his name). There was NO WAY Yadav could say no. He HAD to do it.

Later after a few fours, Dhoni removed that and Yadav started bowling full and looked more threatening.
 
Ask Ian Chappell if he's won his country any world cup trophy as captain? No? That's what I thought

#183*
 
All teams except India has at least 1 50 plus average batsman subject to at least a 1000 test runs.
 
Aus might reach 550 at this rate,I expect a Sub-180 total by us in the first inning
 
Ishant Sharma is one of the most stupid bowlers I have seen.

Unlucky my foot.
 
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