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not sure about using lyon, hasn't really threatened much this innings
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This is one of those rare Tests that BOTH teams deserve to lose, but which will end up as a draw!
He sure is good enough for no. 7 with 4 pacersRavdeep Mehta: "Seeing the way Ashwin is batting these days, I think it won't be a bad idea if he is moved to middle order like Australia has done with Smith.And may be he can play as pure batsman only"
See people WAAAY over rate Ashwin's batting.
Right now Ashwin plays ball in 2 ways:
1. Perfectly solid (95%)
2. Edges (5%)
No 2 is too damn high.
Not sure why would you say Australia deserved to lose?
Australia were 2-0 up in the series and if India wanted to win they had to force the issue, which wasn't hard considering they were bowling to 3 tailend batsmen.
If they can't pick up last 3, why would you blame Australia for playing it out?
They have ensured they won the series and that's what matters.
Rest is just semantics, 1-0, 2-0, 3-1 or 4-0 is all missing the major part.
A series win.
Australia have fully deserved it.
These fourth innings matchsaving knocks are what Tendulkar was always useless at, which is why his fourth innings average was so low.
And it is what elevates FAF du Plessis from a mediocre batsman into a near-great.
Because you need courage, concentration and application to adapt to changing circumstances on the final day of a Test. It is the ultimate test of character.
Ozgod, I disagree.
With 60 balls left:
Australia requires 4 wickets
India requires 231 runs.
Unless India's lower implodes this is going to be the draw that Smith's hyper-defensive captaincy deserves.
Australia batted for 23 ridiculous overs this morning and added 57 runs.
Now they are paying the price - they only have 60 balls left whereas if they'd declared 7 overs earlier they would have 100 balls left.
The 10 balls that Nathan "Fredo Corleone" Lyon batted and the 3 balls that Hazlewood batted look suicidal now.
Hindsight's always 20-20 though mate. I agree that they should have gone for the runs earlier. They wanted to make sure there was absolutely no chance for India and they probably wanted to drive home the message that if India wanted a chance to win the game they would need to take the wickets not rely on a declaration. I understand why that particular decision was made, and I understand that given they look like getting so close that there will be debate about it.
Hindsight's always 20-20 though mate. I agree that they should have gone for the runs earlier. They wanted to make sure there was absolutely no chance for India and they probably wanted to drive home the message that if India wanted a chance to win the game they would need to take the wickets not rely on a declaration. I understand why that particular decision was made, and I understand that given they look like getting so close that there will be debate about it.
In all fairness, it was the right decision.
Kohli took them very close on a worse Adelaide pitch.
Then he started saying a lot about how he won't take any nonsense, which I think was okay in context of this tour.
But perhaps Smith just wanted to remind India, that if Australia do not make kind declarations, Kohli has no chance in hell of chasing scores in Australia.
Pretty great mental call in my opinion !
Special training for surviving 50 overs without scoring must be given to the batsmen of today. They all know how to go into T20 mode without any training.
These fourth innings matchsaving knocks are what Tendulkar was always useless at, which is why his fourth innings average was so low.
And it is what elevates FAF du Plessis from a mediocre batsman into a near-great.
Because you need courage, concentration and application to adapt to changing circumstances on the final day of a Test. It is the ultimate test of character.
A perfect day really, Australia will be celebrating their series win, the commies will be going on and on about the declaration and India will be celebrating their moral victory.
The match was beyond your team's ability to influence and you had to rely on Smith's generosity to make a game of it then?
I think post match discussions will centre on the following:
1. the timing of the OZ declaration (Indians will use this as a reason for the draw)
2. Dhoni's defensive fields and his bowlers' inability to clean up the OZ tail, forcing them to rely on #1 for a chance (non-Indians will use this as a counter to #1)
3. the state of the wicket (fans from the subcontinent will use this to justify flat wickets in the subcontinent)
and
4. OZ dropped catches on Day 3 (I will use this as the real reason for OZ's failure to win. Catches win matches)
These fourth innings matchsaving knocks are what Tendulkar was always useless at, which is why his fourth innings average was so low.
And it is what elevates FAF du Plessis from a mediocre batsman into a near-great.
Because you need courage, concentration and application to adapt to changing circumstances on the final day of a Test. It is the ultimate test of character.
Vijay got a poor decision but I think a draw was a fair result this time,Aus gave up in the last 20 minutes when every ball was meeting the centre of the bat,however I must admit I never thought our last 6 wickets could last these many overs,Maybe Watto's drop catch gave us the lifeline
Cringe-worthy interview from Ravi Shashtri on Star.
Kohli saved it for India. The Australian team may not respect him but it certainly fears him resulting in an unusually delayed declaration.
You need to stop getting hurt over every second comment. Pitch wasn't easy, and it's only because of Australia's late declaration that you guys are not up 3-0.
Kohli saved it for India. The Australian team may not respect him but it certainly fears him resulting in an unusually delayed declaration.
I think this "lack of respect" is all in Kohli's head. They're not going to walk on eggshells around him and kiss his @sre if that's how he defines respect. If anything the fact that he is the No1 target shows a healthy respect IMO. If you don't get sledged or focussed then it means the team doesn't consider you important enough to bother with.
What happ?
That's the hallmark of great players.
Ravi says the scoreline doesn't matter and that the Rahane-Kohli partnership was something Australia has never seen before hehe.Manjrekar replied the score definitely does matter.The chutzpah of some of these chamchas ...
You are talking about fear not respect.
Never seen before? Has Shastri not watched victorious tours of Australia by South Africa and England in the last five years?
First draw in 17 years at MCG.Give them some credit
if Aus had set a target of 330 , India would have had a decent shot at win . Yeah Aus chances of win would have gone up , but so would Indias . May be 60-40 in favour of Aus .
The target was already 326 overnight, and no team - not even with Bradman - has ever scored more than 332 to win on this ground.
Australia then wasted 23 overs before lunch in adding just 57 runs to the target.
If they had just slogged for five overs - even if they got out - they would have increased 326 to at least 360, but given themselves not just an extra 18 overs, but crucially 8 overs with a second new ball against the tail.
Boof Lehmann is a good coach, but he's no student of the history of the game. Neither, clearly, is Steve Smith. They delayed the declaration far, far too late for fear of Kohli and Rahane being better than Bradman and Sobers and Pollock and Viv Richards and Tendulkar and Lara and all the other greats who never chased down 330+ on this ground.
The target was already 326 overnight, and no team - not even with Bradman - has ever scored more than 332 to win on this ground.
Australia then wasted 23 overs before lunch in adding just 57 runs to the target.
If they had just slogged for five overs - even if they got out - they would have increased 326 to at least 360, but given themselves not just an extra 18 overs, but crucially 8 overs with a second new ball against the tail.
Boof Lehmann is a good coach, but he's no student of the history of the game. Neither, clearly, is Steve Smith. They delayed the declaration far, far too late for fear of Kohli and Rahane being better than Bradman and Sobers and Pollock and Viv Richards and Tendulkar and Lara and all the other greats who never chased down 330+ on this ground.
The target was already 326 overnight, and no team - not even with Bradman - has ever scored more than 332 to win on this ground.
Australia then wasted 23 overs before lunch in adding just 57 runs to the target.
If they had just slogged for five overs - even if they got out - they would have increased 326 to at least 360, but given themselves not just an extra 18 overs, but crucially 8 overs with a second new ball against the tail.
Boof Lehmann is a good coach, but he's no student of the history of the game. Neither, clearly, is Steve Smith. They delayed the declaration far, far too late for fear of Kohli and Rahane being better than Bradman and Sobers and Pollock and Viv Richards and Tendulkar and Lara and all the other greats who never chased down 330+ on this ground.
The target was already 326 overnight, and no team - not even with Bradman - has ever scored more than 332 to win on this ground.
Australia then wasted 23 overs before lunch in adding just 57 runs to the target.
If they had just slogged for five overs - even if they got out - they would have increased 326 to at least 360, but given themselves not just an extra 18 overs, but crucially 8 overs with a second new ball against the tail.
Boof Lehmann is a good coach, but he's no student of the history of the game. Neither, clearly, is Steve Smith. They delayed the declaration far, far too late for fear of Kohli and Rahane being better than Bradman and Sobers and Pollock and Viv Richards and Tendulkar and Lara and all the other greats who never chased down 330+ on this ground.
you do realize that a lot of records especially chasing ones have been broken in the last 5-6 years ? Bradman - sobers - Viv could not do it , does not mean Rahane- Virat cannot do it .
Sorry, no, I'm not aware of any such development.
Just over six years ago there were two entries into the top ten winning Test run chases of all time (South Africa in Australia and India over England at Chennai).
But within the last 6 years you have to go down to the 25th highest successful run chase of all time, which is Australia's 311-8 to win at Johannesburg.
So no, the last 6 years of Test cricket have produced nothing to suggest that Australia needed more than 330 runs to win.