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Australia v Pakistan | 3rd Test | Sydney | Jan 3-7, 2017 | Day 3

Well they were lucky to survive two runout chances. Really should have seen Asad come in here. Well looks like Misbah is adamant to prove he's still got it in him.
 
Younis batted beautifully yesterday, really rolled back the years on an easy wicket.

But today he looks terrible again.
 
MMHS said:
YK didn't stop - he was charging down the line & would have beaten a direct hit.

It was of a mis-field which Azhar had to wait before ball passing the fielder; but once he started, he had to make sure that Aussies gets him out with a direct, they missed twice yesterday.
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YK stopped midway. They just showed the replay and it's very clear.
 
Junaids said:
On ABC Radio Simon Katich and Jim Maxwell both blame Younis for stopping.
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I don't care what who says - I have seen it in my eyes. Ball went Azhar's behind & he need not to ball watch - either call loud that he is not running or charge down the line; YK will be responsible for his end.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Hope they keep bowling lyon for a bit so atleast misbah might get set
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Misbah should look to attack.

In Australia with his declining reflexes and concentration - tuk tukking will not work for long.
 
Both were at fault tbh. Both were waiting for the ball to go past mid-wicket but didn't realize Starc was standing just behind him.
 
Azhar deserved to score a century here after having batted so well throughout the whole series. But alas.

These 'seniors' are hell bent on destroying our team, and they are quite successful in their mission.
 
MMHS said:
I don't care what who says - I have seen it in my eyes. Ball went Azhar's behind & he need not to ball watch - either call loud that he is not running or charge down the line; YK will be responsible for his end.
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Yeah Azhar is partly to be blamed as well. If he wasn't confident for the run he should have just loudly said no..
 
Chief Destroyer said:
YK stopped midway. They just showed the replay and it's very clear.
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YK would have been run out then. There was first mistake of calling - something went wrong in Sami's run-out & it went wrong twice in this pair. Then, Azhar stopped midway - he should have run hard once he was out of his base & made sure Aussies need a direct hit. By stopping, what he was thinking - both'll return safe 6 yards behind?
 
Another Pakistan batting record for Younis.

Involved in 23 run outs in Test matches.
 
Shows lack of trust between Azhar and Younis. Azhar should have been looking at Younus not behind him at the ball. Younus does have a habit though of making a false start and then going back.
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Ball's moving. What do you expect?
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I don't think it is actually.

No seam movement - hasn't been any across three Tests - no reverse and tiny amounts of conventional swing. The ball is too damp to move.

That's why both spinners are on.
 
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Chief Destroyer said:
Genius, he was waiting to see if it goes past the close-in fielder. The run clearly wouldn't have been on if he stopped it.
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Err please go watch it again.

After it beat the fielder - Azhar took a few steps and then stopped before running again.

Azhar was uncertain and it cost him.
 
Azhar too has history of run out , has bot always been a confident runner between the wickets.
 
MMHS said:
YK would have been run out then. There was first mistake of calling - something went wrong in Sami's run-out & it went wrong twice in this pair. Then, Azhar stopped midway - he should have run hard once he was out of his base & made sure Aussies need a direct hit. By stopping, what he was thinking - both'll return safe 6 yards behind?
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If Younis is not getting a response from his partner, he shouldn't be half way down the pitch.
 
MMHS said:
I don't care what who says - I have seen it in my eyes. Ball went Azhar's behind & he need not to ball watch - either call loud that he is not running or charge down the line; YK will be responsible for his end.
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You have half convinced me.

They both deserved to be run out!
 
Junaids said:
I don't think it is actually.

No seam movement - hasn't been any across three Tests - no reverse and tiny amounts of conventional swing. The ball is too damp to move.

That's why both spinners are on.
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There's a bit of reverse which is why he was hopping around.
 
We have gone all defensive again :facepalm:

Have to attack O'Keefe and Lyon rather than pretend they are Murli and Warne.
 
Just to add with run-out - Azhar was out at far end. Aussies knew that they can't beat YK, hence went for the far end - had Azhar ran hard & stressed at full length, still might have been close. Azhar puts lots of value to his wicket, hence I can draw my conclusion -

AZHAR DIDN'T EXPECT THE BALL TO COME TO HIS END - TOOK IT COMFORTABLY. This would have been perfectly OK in QA style - both batsman in mid crease & the throw as well - at mid crease. International cricket is a bit different that QA style, hence I can safely say more than ZIM or IRL player, more PAK players have been sacrificed to hilarious run outs. And the travesty of PAK cricket is that Javed, Asif Iqbal & Mazid also used to steal singles ....... and they learned that somewhere else, so did it without comic.
 
Misbah is atleast trying to use the sweep - YK is just blocking right now :facepalm:
 
Chief Destroyer said:
If Younis is not getting a response from his partner, he shouldn't be half way down the pitch.
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That's the fundamental problem, where it started - why YK will not get response from his partner for a run he was going to near end? If Azhar wasn't ready, why did he take the false start/ Why he didn't shout at first point when the ball passed the fielder?
 
MMHS said:
That's the fundamental problem, where it started - why YK will not get response from his partner for a run he was going to near end? If Azhar wasn't ready, why did he take the false start/ Why he didn't shout at first point when the ball passed the fielder?
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Look at yk's shot, the momentum carried him half way down the pitch.
 
Junaids said:
I don't think it is actually.

No seam movement - hasn't been any across three Tests - no reverse and tiny amounts of conventional swing. The ball is too damp to move.

That's why both spinners are on.
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A bit of correction though - both spinners are on after 12 flat out overs by the pace pair. AUS didn't pick 5/6 all-rounders in this match, hence they had to bring the spin pair.

There was enough movement for PAK to be 5 down now - we can take it either way - Josh/Starc are novice compared to Asif under this condition or YK/Azhar actually negotiated the 1st hour perfectly.

Take your pick.
 
MMHS said:
That's the fundamental problem, where it started - why YK will not get response from his partner for a run he was going to near end? If Azhar wasn't ready, why did he take the false start/ Why he didn't shout at first point when the ball passed the fielder?
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Younis hits the ball.

Azhar ball watches because there's a close-in fielder and hears no call from Younis.

The ball passes the fielder and Azhar looks to run.

He sees Younis half-way down the pitch, Azhar begins to run.

Then Younis hesitates when he shouldn't have because it's his call and he's half-way down the pitch.

This causes Azhar to hesitate which was all the time needed for Starc to get the throw in.

This is clearly Younis' fault because he can see Azhar's position, his position, the ball, Starc and it's his call because the ball's behind Azhar.
 
Misbah should avoid the sweep - he plays at awkwardly and is not as comfortable playing it or natural as YK.
 
Gramps trying his level best to be out there till Tea !! Come on Misbah Let's Go :misbah2
 
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Misbah's reverse sweep is a safer shot than his regular sweep
 
Pete Rose said:
Look at yk's shot, the momentum carried him half way down the pitch.
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So, you are saying Azhar ran from childish prank when an on drive carried his partner 10 yards towards him?

I know YK isn't popular & people are upset for Azhar missing another ton, may be even double - but he just repaid what he deprived Sami. And the main reason is poor calling & not following running fundamentals. Had he not stepped out, YK won't have run & there was enough time for him to return.

Watch Virat batting, on every ball he is 3/4 steps down the line - who many times have we seen such comic among Indian pair? RBTW is a science, you analyze with fundamental principals of running, should realize whose fault it was.
 
MMHS said:
So, you are saying Azhar ran from childish prank when an on drive carried his partner 10 yards towards him?

I know YK isn't popular & people are upset for Azhar missing another ton, may be even double - but he just repaid what he deprived Sami. And the main reason is poor calling & not following running fundamentals. Had he not stepped out, YK won't have run & there was enough time for him to return.

Watch Virat batting, on every ball he is 3/4 steps down the line - who many times have we seen such comic among Indian pair? RBTW is a science, you analyze with fundamental principals of running, should realize whose fault it was.
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Simple reason why Azhar ran was yk the queen would have done a one hour special on TV bemoaning the lack of support from the team
 
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Chief Destroyer said:
Younis hits the ball.

Azhar ball watches because there's a close-in fielder and hears no call from Younis.

The ball passes the fielder and Azhar looks to run.

He sees Younis half-way down the pitch, Azhar begins to run.

Then Younis hesitates when he shouldn't have because it's his call and he's half-way down the pitch.

This causes Azhar to hesitate which was all the time needed for Starc to get the throw in.

This is clearly Younis' fault because he can see Azhar's position, his position, the ball, Starc and it's his call because the ball's behind Azhar.
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NO - once Azhar started, his only job was to run as fast as possible & reach his end - what happens at YK's end is not him problem, neither his responsibility. If YK didn't call, & Azhar wasn't ready - still there would have been a run out - this time both batsman at one end (Azhar's end) & YK out for not calling his partner, for a run he was going to near end.

One wicket was bound to go down - because it's a breech of running fundamentals - not calling, ball watching & hesitate at the middle - that's partially both's fault, even if I give BOD to Azhar; but Azhar is sole responsible for his dismissal.
 
MMHS said:
NO - once Azhar started, his only job was to run as fast as possible & reach his end - what happens at YK's end is not him problem, neither his responsibility. If YK didn't call, & Azhar wasn't ready - still there would have been a run out - this time both batsman at one end (Azhar's end) & YK out for not calling his partner, for a run he was going to near end.

One wicket was bound to go down - because it's a breech of running fundamentals - not calling, ball watching & hesitate at the middle - that's partially both's fault, even if I give BOD to Azhar; but Azhar is sole responsible for his dismissal.
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Dude, Younis freaking stopped midway. How many times do I have to repeat this? Azhar can't keep on running if the lead man stops midway. It's only natural he hesitates when you see your partner who is in control hesitate.
 
Pete Rose said:
Simple reason why Azhar ran was yk the queen would have done a one hour special on TV bemoaning the lack of support from the team
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That's beyond my scope - I am explaining what I saw.

If Azhar is not grown up enough to handle media mockery, it's his problem. In his position, I would have ran to batting end with every bit of air in my lungs, ALSO, the throw came from mid on from a lefti - there is a term called "covering the throwing line", which I am sure you understand - I would have done that & finally would have dived for last yards. Still if my partner is run-out & goes to media, I know how to call father, mother, sister .... as well.
 
Azhar missed out on a century which was there for the taking

Would have been only second time that a Pak batsmen hits 2 centuries in same tour of Australia
 
MMHS said:
That's beyond my scope - I am explaining what I saw.

If Azhar is not grown up enough to handle media mockery, it's his problem. In his position, I would have ran to batting end with every bit of air in my lungs, ALSO, the throw came from mid on from a lefti - there is a term called "covering the throwing line", which I am sure you understand - I would have done that & finally would have dived for last yards. Still if my partner is run-out & goes to media, I know how to call father, mother, sister .... as well.
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The job of the batsman who can see the ball is to call clearly and early and to judge whether there is a run. Yk did neither
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Dude, Younis freaking stopped midway. How many times do I have to repeat this? Azhar can't keep on running if the lead man stops midway. It's only natural he hesitates when you see your partner who is in control hesitate.
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I said it many times - one run out was there, because it was a breech of running fundamentals - Azhar is run out for his own mistake - had he 1. ran fast enough, 2. covered the throwing line from mid on from a lefti, 3. dived in last stride, it would have been a photo finish at worst.

In fact, had he ran with conviction, Aussies won't have thrown to the end which 'll need extra 20 metres & a gather from WK.
 
MMHS said:
I said it many times - one run out was there, because it was a breech of running fundamentals - Azhar is run out for his own mistake - had he 1. ran fast enough, 2. covered the throwing line from mid on from a lefti, 3. dived in last stride, it would have been a photo finish at worst.

In fact, had he ran with conviction, Aussies won't have thrown to the end which 'll need extra 20 metres & a gather from WK.
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There was no run on there. Younis should've gone back to his crease.
 
Pete Rose said:
The job of the batsman who can see the ball is to call clearly and early and to judge whether there is a run. Yk did neither
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How do you know? There is eye contact - no every run is taken by shouting.

BUT, EVERY DENIAL IS SHOUTED WITH FULL THROTTLE. In fact, when I was learning cricket in South London school, my coach told us, not to use "NO", because it sometimes sounds like "GO". His suggestion was to shout "Single", "Wait in", & "Double (not two)"
 
Slog said:
Azhar missed out on a century which was there for the taking

Would have been only second time that a Pak batsmen hits 2 centuries in same tour of Australia
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I no longer care about these useless records and am just praying we NOT end up losing this game somehow.

Even a draw will be a moral victory...
 
msb314 said:
I no longer care about these useless records and am just praying we NOT end up losing this game somehow.

Even a draw will be a moral victory...
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You would have cared though if your Shehzad was playing.
 
Any way - it was a needless run out; a hundred was there for the taking.

YK is 14 behind on a remarkable achievement - PAK, UAE, SRL, BD, IND, NZ, ENG, WI, ZIM & SAF. Truly remarkable for a man playing for IND/AUS or ENG, by now would have played close to 200 Tests.
 
I expected more fight from Misbah!

Misbah's lack of interest is on display. This is surely his last test. Even his slogs lack conviction.
 
Brainless shot under the circumstances - should have atleast spotted fielder when taking the aerial route. :facepalm:
 
This is shameful for Misbah, he should have got injured in New year's party. His legacy is heading to a 5-0 in last 5 Tests before being sacked.
 
Misbah's not going out on a high is he, still a mystery whether he'll resign or not?
 
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