Australia vs England | 1st Ashes Test | Brisbane | Day 2

[Amjid Javed]

So we get the usual bad 1st test batting performance in 1st inns by England, this gabba wicket now that its dried out is probably going to be at its best for batting on day 3/4 id fancy england to chase 350 if required in the 4th inns as i dont think they will flop twice, so the onus is on the aussies to bat solidly for a day and get the lead up to 400 and beyond. Might be a good thing for the series from a competitive point of view if the Aussies can take a 1-0 lead here. The aussie bowlers will cause problems to any team in world cricket and question has always been can the aussie batting stand up for once and allow the team to push home for victories.

 

[Ims1]

rain days 3 and 4, if it all hits the gabba could lose a lot of time.

i just checked the forecast at bom-Aus ,it looks like we may not lose more than 30 to 40 overs in last 3 days .

 

[Robert]

Well, this is a bit annoying for an ENG fan. In the last 17 test innings these much-vaunted Cooks, Trotts, KPs, Bell and Priors with a total of 90+ centuries have not managed 400 runs between them.

Maybe they just need to get their usual first test match bad performance out of the way. Being Englishmen, they don't start fighting until backed into a corner. Hopefully it will chuck down for two days and they will still feel a boot in the collective posterior for Adelaide.

 

[Random Aussie]

I think the match was won when Johno and Haddin score that crucial partnership.

There was some spice in the pitch and the conditions looked overcast so anything over 250 is a good score. I expect Australia to struggle to score anywhere around 250-300, but hey, you dont need that many runs to win the match.

Game isn't won yet mate

 

[Random Aussie]

Well, this is a bit annoying for an ENG fan. In the last 17 test innings these much-vaunted Cooks, Trotts, KPs, Bell and Priors with a total of 90+ centuries have not managed 400 runs between them.

Maybe they just need to get their usual first test match bad performance out of the way. Being Englishmen, they don't start fighting until backed into a corner. Hopefully it will chuck down for two days and they will still feel a boot in the collective posterior for Adelaide.

Hey psst the KPs, Trotts and Priors aren't Englishmen

Good day yesterday for the Poms, bad day today. It's a long road back but let's see what tomorrow brings. Cook needs to attack, defending isn't the go now.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I hope the Aussies get bowled on day 3 with a lead of 370-380 and then england have two days or so to have a go at the total, that should then make for a very interesting test match.

 

[Indiafan]

People are really talking about chasing 350+? How often has that happened in test on any pitch? IMO 250 lead and game over for England, no matter what the pitch. Chasing 300 in last innings is a very, very special and rare feat in tests

 

[Robert]

Hey psst the KPs, Trotts and Priors aren't Englishmen

We've innoculated them against the choking virus but infected them with the can't-be-bothered verucca.

Good day yesterday for the Poms, bad day today. It's a long road back but let's see what tomorrow brings. Cook needs to attack, defending isn't the go now.

Could do with another 500-1 effort from Cook and Trott......

 

[Convict]

We've innoculated them against the choking virus but infected them with the can't-be-bothered verucca.



Could do with another 500-1 effort from Cook and Trott......

It certainly won't be Trott.

I think Johnson has his measure.

 

[Ims1]

I hope the Aussies get bowled on day 3 with a lead of 370-380 and then england have two days or so to have a go at the total, that should then make for a very interesting test match.

Warne said today that batting 4th would be very tough on this pitch .

 

[ads101]

We've innoculated them against the choking virus but infected them with the can't-be-bothered verucca.



Could do with another 500-1 effort from Cook and Trott......

Really thought Trott would go down a great. Not that his average isn't impressive, but it was well over fifty at one point. Immaculate defence, incredible temprament. Came in and right away solved England's no.3 problem. Remember that innings in the last Ashes test on debut. Great stuff.

These days watching Trott, he doesn't look the same player. Seen him lose concentration to quite a bit, something which wasn't as prominent when he first came on to the scene.

 

[Executioner]

Game isn't won yet mate

But its unlikely for Australia pull of a Pakistan/Bangladesh style collapse any sooner.

Neither are the opposition bowlers asking any questions. Swann was not really able to turn the ball much, Anderson was not at his best and we dont know whether broady can pull off a bowling perfromance similar to that in the 1st innings.

 

[James]

Trott's technique has gone to pieces. Clock is ticking, certainly for the no.3 spot and maybe for any spot at all.

 

[ads101]

Trott's technique has gone to pieces. Clock is ticking, certainly for the no.3 spot and maybe for any spot at all.

Given both Carberry and Root are playing, two newish players, think England are better off keeping Trott, even if he averages slightly less than 40 these days. Still better as a no.3 than they've had for some time. I don't really want the Bell scenario moving up to 3 again, happened too many times and most people are sick of it.

Bit confused why Carberry is playing. I know he did well in the practice games, but dunno why England did away with Compton so easily. It was first to make Root open. Now Root's back down the order. So a new guy is opening.

Compton was given just 9 tests. And although didn't do fantastic, did score two centuries and averaged over 30. Plus Compton is a couple of years younger, Carberry is 33. Perhaps they should have given Compton a longer run to see if he was really up to it. They gave Compton 9 tests where his nerves were probably there due to being new to international cricket. He might have started playing better as he got settled in international cricket. And I'm no massive fan of Compton either.

Plus I don't think Carberry had the domestic performance that Compton had in recent years. Remember Compton was being hyped to no end because of it.

 

[Noman]

what has happen to Cook seams really an average batsman vs Aus

 

[Amjid Javed]

what has happen to Cook seams really an average batsman vs Aus

Cooks a good top quality batsmen but has been prone to be shown up against the very best fast bowlers/spinnner in world cricket. In saying that most teams would love to have a player like him opening in test matches.

 

[joly]

Cook 's days are over, he is not the batsman he was 18 months ago,except few good series in between he has been very poor in last 1 year

 

[SL_Fan]

Wow amazing turnaround by Aus. As expected MJ turning it on like donkey kong. If Aus can go 1-0 up here as they should, we may well be in for a cracker of a series. Hopefully rain doesn't get in the way though. That would really suck.

 

[James]

People writing off Cook

 

[Convict]

Most of the rain will fall overnight from what I have heard.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Even though Aussies have there noses ahead at this point in time for some reason i still fancy england to win this match somehow.

 

[Executioner]

Even though Aussies have there noses ahead at this point in time for some reason i still fancy england to win this match somehow.

Australia are not Bangladesh who can lose from any situation in a test match

 

[Kianig89]

Cook is a quality batsman will bounce back he is just taking the pressure of captaincy some senior players have to give him a shoulder Prior KP may be

 

[Convict]

Cook's a quality batsman but he's going through a rough patch. It's Harris who has troubled him the most and Harris is a quality bowler.

 

[Robert]

Cook 's days are over, he is not the batsman he was 18 months ago,except few good series in between he has been very poor in last 1 year

What? He's 28! He's got half his career ahead of him!

 

[khalil1986]

Even though Aussies have there noses ahead at this point in time for some reason i still fancy england to win this match somehow.

Keep dreaming even if Australia only score another 100 it will still be too much and most likely they will get a lead of 400+

 

[Amjid Javed]

Australia are not Bangladesh who can lose from any situation in a test match

In recent times they havent been that far off bangladesh!

 

[Convict]

In recent times they havent been that far off bangladesh!

Yet only England and South Africa have defeated us in series in Australia and only India and England have defeated us in series away from Australia.

We whitewashed Sri Lanka last summer. We whitewashed India the summer before that with a weaker bowler attack than what we are currently fielding (no Harris).

We're weak at the moment but we're still better than most.

 

[Convict]

Nice song about the English cricket team

http://soundcloud.com/abc_grandstand/thats-in-england

 

[Gilly]

In recent times they havent been that far off bangladesh!

This says nothing about Australia but a lot about your knowledge of cricket.

 

[trogger]

Most of the rain will fall overnight from what I have heard.

Hope so, im about 8 kilometers from the gabba and we had some very light rain.

From the looks of the radar Brisbane really got off easy, everybody north and south of us are getting a huge downpour.

 

[trogger]

In recent times they havent been that far off bangladesh!

posted this in another thread but it seems apt to post it here.

We haven't lost to

sri lanka since 1999

pakistan since 1994

nz since 1986

west indies since 1992

and no series losses ever to bang/zim

 

[Buffet]

If Warner can play for one session, Eng will lose any will to bowl to Aus. They were looking listless yesterday when bowling.

 

[Gunther]

Jimmy gets really grumpy when the batsmen let him down. I remember that game at Leeds in Ashes 2009. England were shot out for 100 odd and then Jimmy bowled one of his worst spells ever to Australia. He has to disregard the game situation and keep bowling the channels on a fullish length.

 

[Anfield]

Australia has lost 8/12 past matches, right? That's pretty poor record.

 

[Anfield]

Jimmy gets really grumpy when the batsmen let him down. I remember that game at Leeds in Ashes 2009. England were shot out for 100 odd and then Jimmy bowled one of his worst spells ever to Australia. He has to disregard the game situation and keep bowling the channels on a fullish length.

Good he doesn't play for Pakistan then. He probably would have hung himself lol

 

[trogger]

Australia has lost 8/12 past matches, right? That's pretty poor record.

7 of the last 12, 3 in england and 4 in india.

They swept sri lanka at home right before that.

 

[Amjid Javed]

posted this in another thread but it seems apt to post it here.

We haven't lost to

sri lanka since 1999

pakistan since 1994

nz since 1986

west indies since 1992

and no series losses ever to bang/zim

Thanks for history lesson, i already knew that but current Aussie team sucks pretty bad.

 

[Amjid Javed]

This says nothing about Australia but a lot about your knowledge of cricket.

Seems like quite a few worms have caught the bait

As far as current Aussie team goes in last 2 years there have been test matches galore which they have thrown away from strong postions, so my gut feeling they could throw another one way might prove right!

 

[Amjid Javed]

) good to see most Aussie fans fighting there teams corner when some fishing bait is thrown at them my job here is done!

 

[trogger]

silly me i confused you for a real contributor.

 

[Amjid Javed]

silly me i confused you for a real contributor.

I am a real contributer, i have given my views on this thread and on the one on day 1. Sometimes i like to spicey threads by drumming up debate.

Il be quite frank, the Aussies are in a strong postion however this current side doesnt fill me with confidence that against strong oppostion in a test match they can close a game out, in the UK summer your team had strong postions in 3 out of the 5 tests and threw them away on each occasion, the killer instinct of the great Aussie team isnt there. Also the current Aussie batting line up has shown more often then not it can fold like a pack of cards under the merest pressure. So i believe and this is my opinion that until Aussie get a 350 run lead that england are still in the game. This gabba wicket has now dried out and should be best for batting on days 3/4 so i think england shouldnt hold any fear if they need chase such a total.

In regards to the strength of current Aussie side yes they have beat the likes of SL and W.I etc... But in same vein u struggled to beat your neighbours new zealand which shows a massive drop in team strength and i think teams like SL and Pakistan would fancy beating the Aussies when they next tour away

 

[hadi123]

I want Australia to win but if England want to have a chance the most they can chase is 350ish at the very most if they have a good day/couple of days

 

[Random Aussie]

We can quite easily be dismissed for 100 more runs which would make it interesting. Much more than that and I think it will be beyond England's reach.

We are a weak side but it still takes a very good team to beat us at home.

 

[Gilly]

SL and Pakistan would fancy beating the Aussies when they next tour away

Hear it all the time, "If we played Australia now we would beat them" when Australia lose to Eng, SA or India but what you fail to realise is that SL and PAK are no where near as good as Eng, SA or India.

 

[James]

This side looks lesser in quality than the one which toured in 2010, which was probably the collective peak for England and may just be one of the best sides that we have ever fielded. Even if the personnel is similar, 3 years later the actual capability of players can change.

But you can overcome technical shortcomings with what is in your head. The main difference nowadays is the team spirit, which seems less airtight, and thus less buoyant, and thus less confident, and thus less likely to inspire wins.