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30 minutes to start......2nd day.
Hope we see some top level cricket! Good luck to both teams!
 
It will be 39 degrees today
Dhoni 8* - Pathan 8*
Ind 297-6
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Dravid has a record now. 10 times dismissed in 90s
 
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Let's see how quickly OZ can wrap up the tail - if it wags then India will have a crucial advantage. I'd say OZ would be happy if they can knock them over for 50-odd runs. If India get to 400 then OZ will be starting their innings on the back foot.

This is the kind of setting which is tailor made for Dhoni and Pathan - they can flog the ball around without too much pressure to try and get quick runs. And of course Kumble has a Test century to his name.
 
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Good evening fellows,

It will be fun if both Pathan and Dhoni get going but i don't expect IND to make any more than 345
 
PlanetPakistan said:
Good evening fellows,

It will be fun if both Pathan and Dhoni get going but i don't expect IND to make any more than 345
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good evening fellow night guy .. ima try to stay up tonight.
 
kashif77 said:
good evening fellow night guy .. ima try to stay up tonight.
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I certainly can't do that but will try to watch the 1st session. I heard the pitch will be at its quickest today.
 
Very tight bowling. This is nerve racking stuff. Imagine what the batsmen must be going through.
 
Dhoni given out LBW off Clark by Rauf. He had a bit of a think and decided.
 
Dhoni LBW off Clark. at first reaction commies didn't agree with decsiion
 
7/328. Greig thinks that Dhoni was too far forward.
 
Nearly out, but Jaques says no he didn't catch it. Very close with the naked eye, but looks like the ball did bounce in front of him.
 
long time for replays. I don;t think they have shown it yet. That is one way to reduce controversies :19:
 
Replay showed with Hawkeye showing that it would have just gone over the stumps by an inch or so. But close enough that I think it was a fair enough decision.
 
Now another wicket - this one from MJ, looked pretty plumb. Pathan gone for 28. 8-330
 
Tendulkar was forgivable. This one was purely terrible decision from Rauf. Worst thing is.. when the ball was alive Rauf is fielding the ball.. what the heck is he doing.
 
OZGOD said:
Replay showed with Hawkeye showing that it would have just gone over the stumps by an inch or so. But close enough that I think it was a fair enough decision.
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You must be kididng.. he was almost more than feet outside the crease when the ball struck....Hawkeyes showed ball is going well over the stumps. No problem as long as he gives that out against Ozzies.
 
Amazing catch from Rogers, Kumble gone for 1, Clark strikes. 9-330.
 
OZGOD said:
Replay showed with Hawkeye showing that it would have just gone over the stumps by an inch or so. But close enough that I think it was a fair enough decision.
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an inch? even on the comp it looks 3", multiply that by 4 to give you real time height.
 
jackal786 said:
You must be kididng.. he was almost more than feet outside the crease when the ball struck....Hawkeyes showed ball is going well over the stumps. No problem as long as he gives that out against Ozzies.
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The only question mark in my mind in terms of Rauf's decision was that Dhoni was well forward. Generally in Perth if you get hit above the knee it's not out. But I can understand why Rauf would make the call.
 
Sharma comes with a right and left glove
appeal for ct behind on leg side. off hips
 
Dhonifan said:
an inch? even on the comp it looks 3", multiply that by 4 to give you real time height.
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No way was that a foot over. Bad decision no doubt though
 
Dhonifan said:
an inch? even on the comp it looks 3", multiply that by 4 to give you real time height.
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The Hawkeye projection didn't look that high over the stumps. But the slow motion replay showed that it was travelling at a higher trajectory and would most likely have cleared the stumps. But I can understand why he would have made the call - the only issue, as I mentioned, is that generally in Perth if you get struck above the knee you are not out.
 
Ozgod, could you please explain why you feel umpire gave Dhoni out when in Perth there is too much bounce? :13:

I hope the umpires are consistent when Aussies bat
 
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India all out for 330 as MJ gets some tailender wickets to boost his figures.
 
PlanetPakistan said:
Good evening fellows,

It will be fun if both Pathan and Dhoni get going but i don't expect IND to make any more than 345
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:14: :14:
 
Daoud said:
No way was that a foot over. Bad decision no doubt though
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yeah, hardly matters what height it was, but Rauf is proving that either he has no idea of Perth bounce, or no idea of knee roll and above not being eligible for lbw. Well, as long as he has the same view for Aussies, I'm fine with it.
 
damn! all out for 330

but our tailenders did play poorly. unlcuky dhoni and hoepfully it'll even itself out next innings. Let's go boys let's see some aggression!
 
Tail could have hung in there a little more. Too bad we didn't get to 350.

Lookign forward to Indian bowling. Pitch is looking faster and livlier than yesterday.
 
Last four wickets only put on 2 runs ... thats some collapse. No rear guard effort from the tail today. Aus will be looking to put on 500+.
 
Dhonifan said:
Rauf gives another horrendous lbw decision.
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I think you will see the same gone for Aussie. When I saw both Tendu and Dhoni I thought they were out.

It is very very difficult for a sub continental person to understand the Waca Bounce
 
Indiagem said:
Ozgod, could you please explain why you feel umpire gave Dhoni out when in Perth there is too much bounce? :13:

I hope the umpires are consistent when Aussies bat
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Let me clarify what I said. I said it was understandable that Rauf would give that out. I said that generally, the rule in Perth is that if you are hit over the knee you are not out. And I said that when you stride forward out of the crease its generally another not out.

But Rauf has never refereed in Perth before, and likely misjudged the bounce. With the benefit of replays and hindsight it's clear to see that it was bouncing over the stumps and Rauf will look back at that replay and say that maybe he would have gone the other way of he had a chance to do it again. But at the time it was a 50-50 call that could have gone either way - certainly not a howler. You just have to suck those up if you get them, unfortunately. And in any case, Rauf had a good think about it - about 3 seconds - before he made his decision.
 
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asifp said:
I think you will see the same gone for Aussie. When I saw both Tendu and Dhoni I thought they were out.

It is very very difficult for a sub continental person to understand the Waca Bounce
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Hmm, u could be right, it is Rauf's first waca experience apparently.
 
OZGOD said:
Let me clarify what I said. I said it was understandable that Rauf would give that out. I said that generally, the rule in Perth is that if you are hit over the knee you are not out. And I said that when you stride forward out of the crease its generally another not out.

But Rauf has never refereed in Perth before, and likely misjudged the bounce. With the benefit of replays and hindsight it's clear to see that it was bouncing over the stumps and Rauf will look back at that replay and say that maybe he would have gone the other way of he had a chance to do it again. But at the time it was a 50-50 call that could have gone either way - certainly not a howler. You just have to suck those up if you get them, unfortunately. And in any case, Rauf had a good think about it - about 3 seconds - before he made his decision.
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I agree those were not bad decisions by any stretch. Not only the bounce think about when it hits the knee of Tendulkar compared to someone like Hayden , is it going over or not.

I thought those were out and only after replay I was like oh...
 
Indiagem said:
Ozgod...thanks for your response..

I hope he is conssitent in his decisions.
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That's all we expect - consistency.
 
India will be a bit disappointed to not get to 350, while the OZ will be looking to post maybe a 100run lead. Rogers will either have a dream debut or will get out in single figures.
 
OZGOD said:
Let me clarify what I said. I said it was understandable that Rauf would give that out. I said that generally, the rule in Perth is that if you are hit over the knee you are not out. And I said that when you stride forward out of the crease its generally another not out.

But Rauf has never refereed in Perth before, and likely misjudged the bounce. With the benefit of replays and hindsight it's clear to see that it was bouncing over the stumps and Rauf will look back at that replay and say that maybe he would have gone the other way of he had a chance to do it again. But at the time it was a 50-50 call that could have gone either way - certainly not a howler. You just have to suck those up if you get them, unfortunately. And in any case, Rauf had a good think about it - about 3 seconds - before he made his decision.
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dude seriously..its ok for you to defend Australians tactics and whatever they do ..infact you shud do it...but for god sake, stop defending the bad umpring decisions as you did in 2nd Test match too...this shows you are a bit too biased. both the Lbw decisions were very bad
 
siddharth said:
330 is too small a total for the Aussies .
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just remember last test Aus was in trouble and that can happen here too. India will need to push harder when they get the team in bad position
 
rahulrulezz said:
dude seriously..its ok for you to defend Australians tactics and whatever they do ..infact you shud do it...but for god sake, stop defending the bad umpring decisions as you did in 2nd Test match too...this shows you are a bit too biased. both the Lbw decisions were very bad
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Rahul I am sorry they were not bad decisions. Look at them at full speed and 95% of the umpires would give that out.

in 99 out of 100 grounds that ball would hit the stumps and so you just cant make a rule to say its WACA and the ball will always and always go over the stumps. what if the ball stays low and u actually miss a straight forward lbw.

Oh by the way stop whining , Dravid was out clean twice tomorrow plumb LBW not given.

As far as the score goes on umpiring decisions its 2-2
 
I will post again to all Indians

Dravid was out plumb twice yesterday and not given out, one of them the ball was crashing middle of middle stump. so stop whining.
 
Rogers a bit cautious at the moment as he plays out his first maiden over. Good bowling from Pathan to the debutant.
 
I hope umpires are consistent in their decisions on all 5 days.

LBWs are close which could go either way. I am fine with it.
 
asifp said:
I will post again to all Indians

Dravid was out plumb twice yesterday and not given out, one of them the ball was crashing middle of middle stump. so stop whining.
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dude if you actually count the lbws not given, then dont worry..u will see lots and lots and seriously lots of them when India will bowl..if u remember 1st and 2nd Test, seriously combined in two test matches, there were atleast 15 plumb appeals from India ..but unfortunately all were rejected...
 
rahulrulezz said:
dude seriously..its ok for you to defend Australians tactics and whatever they do ..infact you shud do it...but for god sake, stop defending the bad umpring decisions as you did in 2nd Test match too...this shows you are a bit too biased. both the Lbw decisions were very bad
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I'm not defending the umpires for the sake of defending the umpires. I'm not saying Rauf didn't make what ultimately was a bad decision, but that I understood why he made the decision in the context of the situation. You have the benefit of sitting in your lounge room looking at replays from different angles and have benefit of a modelling tool to trace the predicted trajectory of the ball - he doesn't. It's not the right call but I will continue to argue that it was not a howler, because it wasn't. The decision was ultimately the wrong one, but I understand why he made it. He thought about it for a while before he made it too. This is what's called "Monday morning quarterbacking" in the US - postulating about what the umpire would have done after we have had the benefit of replays, commentator opinions and all the rest of it. Hindsight is always 20-20, but umpires and players need to make decisions on the spur of the moment.

Where were all the voices crying for justice when Dravid was given not out tomorrow when he was plumb? Don't think anyone had a whinge about that, whether they be Ozzy or Indian fans. Voices?

Rogers out LBW. Opinions on this LBW?
 
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asifp said:
I will post again to all Indians

Dravid was out plumb twice yesterday and not given out, one of them the ball was crashing middle of middle stump. so stop whining.
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btw im not indian
just saying how it is
seems to me every time i put the match on, there are wrong lbw decisions
i watched four indian dismissals tendu wrongly given, dhoni wrongly given, pathan wrongly given, only jaffer was well umpires couldnt go wrong on that one
 
And Rogers scored his first run and first boundary in international cricket ... Good bloke ... hope he gets many more!!!
 
And he's out lol. Shades of Mike Hussey and his debut?
 
genghis81 said:
And Rogers scored his first run and first boundary in international cricket ... Good bloke ... hope he gets many more!!!
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Not today ... gone ... lbw to Pathan!!!
 
If India can get Ponting out before lunch, it will swing the match right back their way.
 
usman_ash14 said:
btw im not indian
just saying how it is
seems to me every time i put the match on, there are wrong lbw decisions
i watched four indian dismissals tendu wrongly given, dhoni wrongly given, pathan wrongly given, only jaffer was well umpires couldnt go wrong on that one
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Pathan seriously dude , was out. if you slow the ball to 1/100th of the speed and then see the edge , then no umpire in the world can catch that.
 
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