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Australia vs India | 4th Test | Sydney | Jan 3-7, 2019 | Day 2 Thread

bantu said:
Scoreboard pressure in first innings ... not as much as in 4th innings
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India bowled them out for 151 in the last test. Only guy who batted well was Cummins . Not a single Australian has got a 100 in this series.
 
Wear them down. Remember Dhoni bowling in England when nothing was working? I would like Paine to give the gloves to Khwaja or Finch and take his run up.
 
Tusker said:
AUS lost to India in 2003 after putting on 550 but these are rare occurrences and require epic batting followed by epic bowling.
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2008 India lost. Eng lost in 2007 , one example you gave. So it seems 500+ is not so safe score in Aus because pitch it literally a road some time and other team can score very fast as well to come back.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
You think that is going to happen here hahah your "optimism" will inspire anyone lol
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Nah, I don't expect this bunch to win the test from here. I was just giving example of 500+ not being a sure shot draw.
 
Buffet said:
2008 India lost. Eng lost in 2007 , one example you gave. So it seems 500+ is not so safe score in Aus because pitch it literally a road some time and other team can score very fast as well to come back.
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Problem is that this Aus batting lineup in this series at least hasn't shown any promise bar Perth to espouse such hopes...
 
I read somewhere that Aus hasn't scored a test ton since Sandpaper gate. Is it true?
 
Anyway, If I am India I will give pacers 8-10 overs before day is over. That way they can bowl one spell today and one spell in morning when they are fresh.
 
Lyon now averages in excess of 32. How could he be called best spinner in world with an average of 32, is beyond me!
 
MP2011 said:
Problem is that this Aus batting lineup in this series at least hasn't shown any promise bar Perth to espouse such hopes...
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I don't expect this line up to pull a win from here. I was just giving examples.
 
Buffet said:
2008 India lost. Eng lost in 2007 , one example you gave. So it seems 500+ is not so safe score in Aus because pitch it literally a road some time and other team can score very fast as well to come back.
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India lost to Bucknor and Bowden picking up wkts at will in 2008 (I dont think we made 500+ though) . ICC plugged that hole. india won in 2003 based on epic batting by Rahul and VVS.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
India bowled them out for 151 in the last test. Only guy who batted well was Cummins . Not a single Australian has got a 100 in this series.
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That pitch had something for bowlers .. we had 3 pacers... this pitch is still good for batting
 
MP2011 said:
Lyon now averages in excess of 32. How could he be called best spinner in world with an average of 32, is beyond me!
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He isn't best spinner. He goes very defensive too early.
 
Double century coming up for Lyon. If this was Ashwin, he would've been criticized to death.
 
Buffet said:
Anyway, If I am India I will give pacers 8-10 overs before day is over. That way they can bowl one spell today and one spell in morning when they are fresh.
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I wouldn't. Unless we are down to the pacers / 8 down.

Bat all day today and 10 overs tomorrow.
 
Sin Nombre said:
Pant's average is almost 45 (though of course a wicket will bring it down) and these are in much more challenging conditions. He is India's 3rd best bat.
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India's best bats in Tests are: Pujara, Kohli, Agarwal, Shaw and then Pant.
 
MP2011 said:
Lyon now averages in excess of 32. How could he be called best spinner in world with an average of 32, is beyond me!
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Maybe if Ashwin had to bowl on day 1 and 2 pitch against this mighty Indian bowling, you would question Ashwins credibilities too.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Has anyone ever seen Dhoni play this well in any test series in Australia?
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I remember only 2 innings of note by Dhoni in test cricket, his first ever test ton against Shoaib & Co at a dead as dodo Faislabad pitch and that Chennai double ton against Aus on a Mars like pitch, lol.
 
Sin Nombre said:
He certainly dropped his fair share of catches against the quicks.

He is not a very good keeper against faster bowling. His long absence has made people forget all his drops.
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Disagree. All his drops were opportunities most keepers wouldn't even reach. He is one of the all time great keepers
 
Zakaz said:
Maybe if Ashwin had to bowl on day 1 and 2 pitch against this mighty Indian bowling, you would question Ashwins credibilities too.
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But he still averages 32 in test cricket! And if he can't succeed against best in business, how could he be called best in world?
 
MP2011 said:
I remember only 2 innings of note by Dhoni in test cricket, his first ever test ton against Shoaib & Co at a dead as dodo Faislabad pitch and that Chennai double ton against Aus on a Mars like pitch, lol.
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To be fair, he played a great innings at Lords 2007. Helped in drawing the match which helped in winning the series.
 
WengerOut said:
To be fair, he played a great innings at Lords 2007. Helped in drawing the match which helped in winning the series.
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I remembered that innings but that is tainted a bit by that reprieve by Umpire.
 
BreadPakoda said:
India batted second after Ozzies had already blitz for 480. Different scenarios.
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Buffer is silently rooting for Australia :) First he was hoping India would get bowled out for 350 then 400.. now he has taken his optimism to extreme level
 
Buffet said:
Didn't India lose a test in Aus in 00s after scoring around 540 in first inning?
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Bro i salute your optimism. If the SA teams of all times had , collectively, half your optimism they might have made atleast a few World Cup finals by now :bow:
 
Zakaz said:
Maybe if Ashwin had to bowl on day 1 and 2 pitch against this mighty Indian bowling, you would question Ashwins credibilities too.
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Yes if my aunt had balls she might be my uncle but we can't operate on fanciful would be's and could be's, it's what actually happens that we can base stuff off.
 
MP2011 said:
Then who is in your opinion? Yasir, Ashwin or Jadeja?
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Ahswin. He can vary his flight and use dip to fool batsmen. Yasir or Jadeja don't do that often. Not a huge difference , but I will go with Ashwin. He bowled very well in the first test.
 
Napa said:
India's best bats in Tests are: Pujara, Kohli, Agarwal, Shaw and then Pant.
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Shaw has played 2 tests in India and Agarwal 2 in Oz. Pant has now played well in England, India and Aus.

At this moment, it's Kohli, Pujara, Pant for me.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Buffer is silently rooting for Australia :) First he was hoping India would get bowled out for 350 then 400.. now he has taken his optimism to extreme level
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I don't think he is doing anything silently he is an Aussie supporter isn't he.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Buffer is silently rooting for Australia :) First he was hoping India would get bowled out for 350 then 400.. now he has taken his optimism to extreme level
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I have been a lurker on the forum for far long to know who Buffet roots for. He's a silent guardian. Its a big moment for all of us. Winning in Australia. Different people will react in different ways.
 
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Tusker said:
Can't have enough of it :)
[MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION]
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I am getting flashbacks of Indian batting in 2017, and the sour taste of the SA and England series are slowly being forgotten :)
 
Buffet said:
Ahswin. He can vary his flight and use dip to fool batsmen. Yasir or Jadeja don't do that often. Not a huge difference , but I will go with Ashwin. He bowled very well in the first test.
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Thanks...
 
BreadPakoda said:
I have been a lurker on the forum for far long to know who Buffet roots for. He's a silent guardian. Its a big moment for all of us. Winning in Australia. Different people take it in different ways.
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This!
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Buffer is silently rooting for Australia :) First he was hoping India would get bowled out for 350 then 400.. now he has taken his optimism to extreme level
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Nikhil_cric said:
Bro i salute your optimism. If the SA teams of all times had , collectively, half your optimism they might have made atleast a few World Cup finals by now :bow:
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Nah, I am not suggesting that Aus will win form here. I was simply pulling examples in recent years where 500+ is not a guaranteed draw. Given significance of this series win for India, I see no point in India taking out even a chance of miracle here. No one will care if score was 2-1 or 3-1. First series win in Aus and that's what everyone will remember.
 
Napa said:
I am getting flashbacks of Indian batting in 2017, and the sour taste of the SA and England series are slowly being forgotten :)
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Not many took England defeat seriously. If anything INdia was very unlucky to lose 5 tosses in a row And also couple of injuries.Selection errors. Everything struck at the same time. Still they gave Engladn a run for money. But for Sam Curran even with so much against them they could have won 3-2.
 
Damn, we're going to face the wrath of Aus next summer.

They'll be out with a point to prove after this pathetic performance.
 
Buffet said:
Nah, I am not suggesting that Aus will win form here. I was simply pulling examples in recent years where 500+ is not a guaranteed draw. Given significance of this series win for India, I see no point in India taking out even a chance of miracle here. No one will care if score was 2-1 or 3-1. First series win in Aus and that's what everyone will remember.
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You think Australia will come out swinging just to protect their pride?
 
JaDed said:
India is not playing today, Kohli has undone his whites
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Good, he's humiliating the Aussies here.

Pile on 900 and then roll them for 300 before making their bowlers bowl again.
 
You've got to respect the way the Indian team has destroyed this Aus team.
 
I am glad Ishant is not playing here lol You can bat all day if you show good technique. Bumrah and Kuldeep hold the key.
 
Wheels are coming off for Aus. Easy runs for India here. Looking at Kohli, it seems they simply wants to pile on here. I would have done the same thing.
 
To win a series in Australia is a tremendous achievement for any team, moreso for a sub-continent side. Yes, they are missing two of their best players but can you hold it against us? Can only beat what's in front of you.

Also, I suspect while Aus have been bad this series they would still flog any of the other Asian sides. Bumrah is the reason why we're in this position.
 
While some may be thinking as to why India arent declaring, I feel as a captain, it becomes hard to declare when you are watching Aussies getting absolutely ripped apart in their own backyard.
 
Combination of things did Australia in. They bowled 190 plus overs in all in the last test. Again they come back and bowl first here. Another 160 overs. Took its toll.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
You think Australia will come out swinging just to protect their pride?
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It doesn't matter, India is likely to put 650 here. Aus can't do anything. India is ensuring that even a miracle can't stop them from winning first series in Aus.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Combination of things did Australia in. They bowled 190 plus overs in all in the last test. Again they come back and bowl first here. Another 160 overs. Took its toll.
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It's all one person, Pujara, playing those marathon knocks. Bowling 150+ overs takes a toll.
 
I don't get why they didn't rotate their bowlers for this series? Obviously overworking their pacers was going to be a concern.

Starc is definitely getting dropped for the Ashes.
 
Take a bow, Cummins.

100 for you.

600 up for us.
 
Jadeja is smashing Cummins :))

184 run partnership between Jadeja and Pant.
 
Aman said:
They've shown other teams the perfect formula to break down Aus.
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Duh. That's the age-old formula to break down any team.

Ozzies bowlers have done well to hold up. If it were Pakistan, Abbas would have left the field and Amir would have been bowling 110-120kph by now.
 
Never seen any Asian team demolishing Australia like this in Australia. This is a massacre.

I don't think they need to declare given the run rate they are going at. They can get to 700 in the next 16-17 overs.
 
Ab Fan said:
While some may be thinking as to why India arent declaring, I feel as a captain, it becomes hard to declare when you are watching Aussies getting absolutely ripped apart in their own backyard.
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Why will India declare if they can score 70-80 more quick runs?
 
Aman said:
I don't get why they didn't rotate their bowlers for this series? Obviously overworking their pacers was going to be a concern.

Starc is definitely getting dropped for the Ashes.
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Aussies lack depth in all departments.
 
Aus is getting the treatment they have given to others in past in their home soil.
 
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