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Bangladesh: Still cricket minnows?

Khizr96 said:
ICC wasted so much money on you guys its been 16 years since you were given test status and not a single good achievement in tests
Giving you guys the test status was the worst decision ever made by PCB/ICC
If Ireland and Netherlands were given as many chances to host World Cups and get ICC revenue they would have been a dominant force in world cricket today!
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I agree, Test status should be taken away from Bangladesh.
 
Bangladesh should only play with Oman, Hongkong, Afghanistan, Ireland and Netherland.

I don't think any test playing nation should play and waste their time and energy against Bd.
 
Executioner said:
Yeah yeah like Ireland and Netherlands are capable of bringing in enough money or even homegrown players compared to us

Bangladesh has a lot of fans who bring in the money and we are producing some quality players. However it's hard to explain long term investment to kids like you. Go back to watching anime.
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By your logic we should have given Afghanistan and Nepal since there are so many following there
This is pathetic
ICC made a HUGE mistake by giving BD test status
We seriously spent 16 years developing a useless team
 
If Bangladesh is a minnow then so is Sri Lanka, pakistan, and west indies

A minnow doesn't beat new zealand, pak, india, and south Africa in an odi series consecutively

Or challenge high quality test sides like pakistan (1st test) or south Africa

Nor does a minnow make an Asia cup final twice in last few years

Nor does a minnow make it ahead of England in the world cup group stages

Bangladesh is not a minnow, they are equal to Sri Lanka in t20s, better than pakistan and Sri Lanka in odis, and are about equal to Sri Lanka in tests

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imteaz said:
Bangladesh should only play with Oman, Hongkong, Afghanistan, Ireland and Netherland.

I don't think any test playing nation should play and waste their time and energy against Bd.
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But yet their record in odis against pakistan, india, south africa, new Zealand, England in the 1.5 years or so reads 12-2

Ps I'm Pakistani

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Mahmood101 said:
But yet their record in odis against pakistan, india, south africa, new Zealand, England in the 1.5 years or so reads 12-2

Ps I'm Pakistani

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Are you okay dude? Last 2 years they won couple of games in Mirpur. That's all.

Did they win any matches outside dhaka?
 
imteaz said:
Are you okay dude? Last 2 years they won couple of games in Mirpur. That's all.

Did they win any matches outside dhaka?
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Didn't really get opportunity to play away from mirpur besides world cup where they beat england
 
in home conditions Bangladesh are probably the 2nd best ODI team in Asia but outside Asia they won't do much. I'd say Pakistan has a better chance to win an ODI game outside Asia than the Bangladeshis due to our pace attack. e.g our win against SA in the WC is something the Bangladeshis wouldn't be able to do.

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Adil_94 said:
in home conditions Bangladesh are probably the 2nd best ODI team in Asia but outside Asia they won't do much. I'd say Pakistan has a better chance to win an ODI game outside Asia than the Bangladeshis due to our pace attack. e.g our win against SA in the WC is something the Bangladeshis wouldn't be able to do.

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exactly Bangladeshis are over hyped team without zero talent.
 
imteaz said:
exactly Bangladeshis are over hyped team without zero talent.
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they have some very good batting talents and decent spinners but their pace attack is mediocre, Taskin looks OK Mustafiz has potential but he has injury issues the rest look average. outside Asia u need a strong pace attack to compete and they don't have that and also u need a strong batting line up in home conditions their batsman have proved themselves but outside Asia they haven't done that.

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No they are no minnows and hope this thread hasn't been bumped with this purpose.

Very soon Afghanistan, Ireland & Netherlands will also be no more minnows.
 
Itachi said:
How much time you guys need?

The world cricket is at its lowest quality. There are hardly a few great batsman and bowler combining all the teams. Others are rubbish.

If you can't do it now, you probably won't be able to do for another century.
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There quite a few good players around the world from AB de Villiers to Kane Williamson...the coming decade will be a golden era for cricket IMO. Lot of top class players all over.
 
imteaz said:
exactly Bangladeshis are over hyped team without zero talent.
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you are full of hate my friend, their batting is twice better than pakistan's. Their middle order is way stronger than us, its just the pressure of big event that took them apart otherwise they have improved tenfolds
 
Bangladesh are no minnows. Minnows do not beat top ranked teams like SA and IND, be it on their home grounds.
 
Executioner said:
Yeah yeah like Ireland and Netherlands are capable of bringing in enough money or even homegrown players compared to us

Bangladesh has a lot of fans who bring in the money and we are producing some quality players. However it's hard to explain long term investment to kids like you. Go back to watching anime.
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not to disrespect, but you dont know what would happen if icc gave netherlands test status and more money. Netherlands people are physically much more capable than generally shorter and weaker bengalis. If at least 100 of them took cricket seriously, they would become a force
 
Leave Bangladesh alone for crying out loud! No minnow can beat top teams in successive series, regardless of whether they're playing at home or not! In truth, Pakistan would have probably lost to India and RSA at home, in Pakistan, so does that mean Pakistan is an associate team? #TINDAIALERT #WhyYouSoJealous?
 
HaseebFA said:
Leave Bangladesh alone for crying out loud! No minnow can beat top teams in successive series, regardless of whether they're playing at home or not! In truth, Pakistan would have probably lost to India and RSA at home, in Pakistan, so does that mean Pakistan is an associate team? #TINDAIALERT #WhyYouSoJealous?
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If India and South Africa tour Ireland, i am pretty sure if they don't lose here n there atleast Ireland will give them hard time. And u r wrong Pakistan will not lose to South africa at home, they are very bad in sub continent.

Bangladesh will lose every matches they play outside their home, be it its Afghanistan, Ireland or Netherlands or hong kong.
 
Bangladesh is a poor T20 side. But they deserve to be here. They have a good fan following, all their great talents are under 29, they got the money, they have a good domestic structure, good school system. They deserve to be here. They are also exciting to watch. Tired of boring India and Pakistani matches.

Afg is a good minnow as well.
 
imteaz said:
If India and South Africa tour Ireland, i am pretty sure if they don't lose here n there atleast Ireland will give them hard time. And u r wrong Pakistan will not lose to South africa at home, they are very bad in sub continent.

Bangladesh will lose every matches they play outside their home, be it its Afghanistan, Ireland or Netherlands or hong kong.
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Pakistan lost to RSA 4-1 when they toured in 2013 in the UAE - PAKISTAN's TEMPORARY HOME - and Pakistan's one day side is so bad, I feel personally feel surprised everytime they win. As for your argument about Ireland giving a tough time, I don't understand. BANGLADESH BEAT BOTH SIDES AT HOME, WHICH IRELAND CAN'T DO AT THE MOMENT! #TINDAIALERT
 
Thivagar said:
Bangladesh is a poor T20 side. But they deserve to be here. They have a good fan following, all their great talents are under 29, they got the money, they have a good domestic structure, good school system. They deserve to be here. They are also exciting to watch. Tired of boring India and Pakistani matches.

Afg is a good minnow as well.
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Sri Lanka is a pretty decent minnow side as well, eh? #SomeoneFeelingSomeMalta
 
Thivagar said:
Bangladesh is a poor T20 side. But they deserve to be here. They have a good fan following, all their great talents are under 29, they got the money, they have a good domestic structure, good school system. They deserve to be here. They are also exciting to watch. Tired of boring India and Pakistani matches.

Afg is a good minnow as well.
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Bangladesh exciting to watch? Joke of the century

Next time, India or Pakistan play Bangladesh, they should send their Under 19 team. they will do the job.

even India & Pakistan under 19 is better team than Bangladesh national team.
 
HaseebFA said:
Sri Lanka is a pretty decent minnow side as well, eh? #SomeoneFeelingSomeMalta
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imteaz said:
Bangladesh exciting to watch? Joke of the century

Next time, India or Pakistan play Bangladesh, they should send their Under 19 team. they will do the job.

even India & Pakistan under 19 is better team than Bangladesh national team.
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SL is a decent minnow side. They don't lack talent they lack intelligence. Sooner or later few players with functioning brain will save SL.

Indians and Pakistanis find both of these teams interesting because one is their home team and the other is their nemesis. For an average joe, there is nothing interesting about these two teams. Pakistani is entertaining when on epic collapses or when Afridi comes to the crease. India is India.
 
Mahmood101 said:
If Bangladesh is a minnow then so is Sri Lanka, pakistan, and west indies

A minnow doesn't beat new zealand, pak, india, and south Africa in an odi series consecutively

Or challenge high quality test sides like pakistan (1st test) or south Africa

Nor does a minnow make an Asia cup final twice in last few years

Nor does a minnow make it ahead of England in the world cup group stages

Bangladesh is not a minnow, they are equal to Sri Lanka in t20s, better than pakistan and Sri Lanka in odis, and are about equal to Sri Lanka in tests

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This.

Incredible seeing some posts here.
 
imteaz said:
Bangladesh exciting to watch? Joke of the century

Next time, India or Pakistan play Bangladesh, they should send their Under 19 team. they will do the job.

even India & Pakistan under 19 is better team than Bangladesh national team.
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It maybe hard to admit but right now Bangladesh is a better odi team than ours, their odi record in last 2 years is wayyyy better than ours. Not to mention most of all their good players are in their prime or are about to hit it

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Khizr96 said:
By your logic we should have given Afghanistan and Nepal since there are so many following there
This is pathetic
ICC made a HUGE mistake by giving BD test status
We seriously spent 16 years developing a useless team
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Wait the useless team that beat you quite often off late? We even competed well in a few years against Pakistan and SA both decent test sides

We went to Asia cup final. Of course by your logic we are still minnows. Afghanistan are quite capable but they don't have proper facilities to hosts international matches. Nepal, well Nepal didn't qualify for 2015 WC or even this t20 WC.
Messiah said:
not to disrespect, but you dont know what would happen if icc gave netherlands test status and more money. Netherlands people are physically much more capable than generally shorter and weaker bengalis. If at least 100 of them took cricket seriously, they would become a force
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They are physically stronger than Indians as well right?

Cricket is a game that needs technical ability more. Otherwise the likes of ponting and tendulkar would be nothing cricketers
 
Bangladesh in the recent past has impressed everyone but it remains to be seen is it a temporary phase or if the new bangladesh are here to stay, it would be very good for cricket over all if bangladesh can keep up their recent form, cricket has been at an all time low with pakistan and west indies not doing too well off late
 
Very unfortunate that people are calling them minnows. The correct term is associate Nation. :yk

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Executioner said:
Wait the useless team that beat you quite often off late? We even competed well in a few years against Pakistan and SA both decent test sides

We went to Asia cup final. Of course by your logic we are still minnows. Afghanistan are quite capable but they don't have proper facilities to hosts international matches. Nepal, well Nepal didn't qualify for 2015 WC or even this t20 WC.


They are physically stronger than Indians as well right?

Cricket is a game that needs technical ability more. Otherwise the likes of ponting and tendulkar would be nothing cricketers
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Lol Zimbabwe has beaten us in a series in Pakistan
They remained minnows
You have defeated us after 12 years at your home and so much excitement
Sorry but BD must be stripped off their test status and WC hosting rights they are minnows
Better invest on Ned or Ireland
 
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Khizr96 said:
Lol Zimbabwe has beaten us in a series in Pakistan
They remained minnows
You have defeated us after 12 years at your home and so much excitement
Sorry but BD must be stripped off their test status and WC hosting rights they are minnows
Better invest on Ned or Ireland
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And we beat a lot of top teams of late. We beat SA and India with ease in a few ODIs

Why don't you just tell the world that you blindly hate Bangladesh cricket for no reason whatsoever and even if we win 3 world cups you will still say that Ireland would have done better

You didn't give Bangladesh an inch of credit. All you have is nonsense like "Ireland and Netherland" would have done better. Could have would have should have. They aren't better right? Ireland can't even beat Oman despite playing for a longer period of time. Not saying that Ireland are a bad team.

I am wasting my time and energy replying to your nonsense.
 
Khizr96 said:
Lol Zimbabwe has beaten us in a series in Pakistan
They remained minnows
You have defeated us after 12 years at your home and so much excitement
Sorry but BD must be stripped off their test status and WC hosting rights they are minnows
Better invest on Ned or Ireland
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The thing is we didnt just defeat you guys (and Pakistan ODI team needs a shuffle and will only get stronger with Amirs return), but we also defeated India, South Africa, New Zealand, Sri Lanka at home. That is progress.

Though in a way being minnow was fun. It doesnt matter if he team doesnt turn up but winning matches feels like EID!
 
10sion said:
The thing is we didnt just defeat you guys (and Pakistan ODI team needs a shuffle and will only get stronger with Amirs return), but we also defeated India, South Africa, New Zealand, Sri Lanka at home. That is progress.

Though in a way being minnow was fun. It doesnt matter if he team doesnt turn up but winning matches feels like EID!
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So?Zimbabwe have beaten many teams during their short golden patch in late 90s
That doesnt mean you guys are not minnows...
 
Khizr96 said:
So?Zimbabwe have beaten many teams during their short golden patch in late 90s
That doesnt mean you guys are not minnows...
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Accha bhai we are minnows.

Forever minnows rahengey.

Happy?

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Khizr96 said:
So?Zimbabwe have beaten many teams during their short golden patch in late 90s
That doesnt mean you guys are not minnows...
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Yes but show me a series where 90s Zim decimated an opposition like Bangladesh did to Pakistan last year. All 3 matches you got thrashed like the the world was going to end later that day.
 
Khizr96 said:
So?Zimbabwe have beaten many teams during their short golden patch in late 90s
That doesnt mean you guys are not minnows...
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Poor argument! Zimbabwe never beat three teams like Pakistan, India, and South Africa in consecutive series and they were never ranked above teams like Pakistan and West Indies.

I know a lot of posters are just trolling but everybody knows that Bangladesh is not a minnow team anymore.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Poor argument! Zimbabwe never beat three teams like Pakistan, India, and South Africa in consecutive series and they were never ranked above teams like Pakistan and West Indies.

I know a lot of posters are just trolling but everybody knows that Bangladesh is not a minnow team anymore.
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So you are saying This Immature Bangladeshis Batsman Tamim, Sarkar, Shabbir, Shakib better than Andy Flower, Grant Flower, Alistair Campbell, Heath streak, Guy Whittall? LOL

in 90's Zim was way way better team than this Bangladeshi hack team.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Poor argument! Zimbabwe never beat three teams like Pakistan, India, and South Africa in consecutive series and they were never ranked above teams like Pakistan and West Indies.

I know a lot of posters are just trolling but everybody knows that Bangladesh is not a minnow team anymore.
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That Zimbabwe team was minnow only because there were legends in other team.

This Bangladeshi team isn't even worthy enough to even utter the names of that great Zimbabwean team.
 
Khizr96 said:
By your logic we should have given Afghanistan and Nepal since there are so many following there
This is pathetic
ICC made a HUGE mistake by giving BD test status
We seriously spent 16 years developing a useless team
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How many people lives in afghanistan and nepal?
 
Itachi said:
That Zimbabwe team was minnow only because there were legends in other team.

This Bangladeshi team isn't even worthy enough to even utter the names of that great Zimbabwean team.
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If legends doesnt win consecutive series what we should do with them?
 
imteaz said:
So you are saying This Immature Bangladeshis Batsman Tamim, Sarkar, Shabbir, Shakib better than Andy Flower, Grant Flower, Alistair Campbell, Heath streak, Guy Whittall? LOL

in 90's Zim was way way better team than this Bangladeshi hack team.
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Comparing retired batsman with players who have 10 years left to play? Who was best alrounder in world no 1 position from zimbawue? Who won wisdon award? Sure those were good but shakib tamim not behind them.
 
10sion said:
The thing is we didnt just defeat you guys (and Pakistan ODI team needs a shuffle and will only get stronger with Amirs return), but we also defeated India, South Africa, New Zealand, Sri Lanka at home. That is progress.

Though in a way being minnow was fun. It doesnt matter if he team doesnt turn up but winning matches feels like EID!
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Eid comes twice in a year.

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Sad how dumb many people are getting. Bangladesh are a team on the up. Nobody is stating they are world class; in fact, there are 0 world class sides right now since most are winning at home and losing away. Bangladesh were missing Mustafizur who is clearly their best bowler. Don't forget, this Pakistan team has played the most T20s; whereas, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe have played the fewest amongst the full members. Also let's take into account that Bangladesh have been playing in Dharmasala; whereas, Pakistan have been in Kolkata for a while, so adjusting to conditions played a role. Pakistan have even played a warm-up game there. Though Bangladesh are improving in T20, it is not their strongest format. One-day Cricket is their best format. Amir shouldn't be playing Cricket due to his spot-fixing crimes. Even then, this Pakistan T20 squad is old compared to this young Bangladesh squad. Can't see Hafeez, Irfan, Safraz etc lasting another 2 years – same old story for Pakistan. One things for sure – winning a series (any) IN Bangladesh is far more worthy than winning a series against Pakistan in UAE.
 
Just saw this thread....
It seems BD have not improved at all they are not even competing lol
They just had a purple patch from 2015 to 2017
 
HAHAHAHAHA Bangladesh are and always will be minnows. LOL at how banglas think they r better than Pakistan and India. They are as bad as Sri Lanka.
 
They decent at home but attrotious outside BD.. Shouldn't be allowed to tour outside BD it's embarrassing..
 
Of course they are.

We must be honest and say they are decent at home but a joke away, in both major formats. They are still the type of team when they win a tournament match, it should be labelled an upset.
 
Some posters like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] want to invite them to UAE for a series LOL. But he also thinks indian bowling is the best in the world. The team that can't defend 280 at home on a turning pitch vs. NZ. Well at least the best bowling, indian shoopershtars took 3 wickets :)
 
tandapanii said:
Of course they are.

We must be honest and say they are decent at home but a joke away, in both major formats. They are still the type of team when they win a tournament match, it should be labelled an upset.
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Depends on the pitch, an upset doesnt bring one to the semifinal.....
 
BDwarriors said:
The SL which whitewash you in UAE supposed to be minnow!
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In Tests we are a shambles, but in ODIs there is no comparison now. Even at our worst we always manage to win a game away from home in ODIs. BD are a calamity right now, and I am not sure why. Their semi-final performance alone against India was a massive disgrace.
 
Bay Garrett said:
Some posters like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] want to invite them to UAE for a series LOL. But he also thinks indian bowling is the best in the world. The team that can't defend 280 at home on a turning pitch vs. NZ. Well at least the best bowling, indian shoopershtars took 3 wickets :)
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What's wrong in inviting Bangladesh in UAE? I can guarantee that they will be more competitive than the current Sri Lankan team and can win 2 out of 5 games. Just because they are touring abroad and doing badly which most of the teams do these days won't make them a minnow. India who have played tons of matches, IPL in South Africa have yet to win a series in South Africa. Pakistan managed to win a series in South Africa but even their record isn't that good in South Africa.
 
Pakpak said:
In Tests we are a shambles, but in ODIs there is no comparison now. Even at our worst we always manage to win a game away from home in ODIs. BD are a calamity right now, and I am not sure why. Their semi-final performance alone against India was a massive disgrace.
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BD hasnt play a lot of game away like home matches.
 
Bangladesh is still awful outside Asia.This performance in South Africa is a massive loss.South Africa will think 10 times in future before inviting us.
 
BDwarriors said:
BD hasnt play a lot of game away like home matches.
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So haven't we. Our tours to England and Australia were after ages. And God knows when we went to SA last time.

Losing every game on a tour, which BD are on their way to do, is really poor. Iroinically in Tests I think BD will give us competition, if SL did so will you guys as you're easily better than them in Tests but in ODIs its no compeition right now. Our entire ODI team is different to the terrible messy one with Azhar as captain we played with against BD last time in BD.

You're one of the very few good BD posters on PP so I apologise if I came off as too agressive. :))
 
Sad that we have this habit of pulling down each other. Will the cricket world be better off without Bangladesh, or is it better with Bangladesh? Bangladesh deserve all the criticism when they don't play well, but to pull out daggers every time they lose reeks of something else. certainly something our small cricket universe can do without?
 
Pakpak said:
So haven't we. Our tours to England and Australia were after ages. And God knows when we went to SA last time.

Losing every game on a tour, which BD are on their way to do, is really poor. Iroinically in Tests I think BD will give us competition, if SL did so will you guys as you're easily better than them in Tests but in ODIs its no compeition right now. Our entire ODI team is different to the terrible messy one with Azhar as captain we played with against BD last time in BD.

You're one of the very few good BD posters on PP so I apologise if I came off as too agressive. :))
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Pakistan were in SA 2013. They won the ODI series 2-1. BD played in SA for first time , not like pakistan. Pak has played more away matches than BD; recent years too, yet one shouldnt compare pak with BD to prove BD as minnow! I still think in ODI BD will be more competitive against Pak than in test.

BD´s bowling is toothless but batting is competitive.
 
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BDwarriors said:
Pakistan were in SA 2013. They won the ODI series 2-1. BD played in SA for first time , not like pakistan. Pak has played more away matches than BD; recent years too, yet one shouldnt compare pak with BD to prove BD as minnow! I still think in ODI BD will be more competitive against Pak than in test.

BD´s bowling is toothless but batting is competitive.
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You're proving my point, our last tour to SA was four years ago despite us being an established team. We don't get away tours. Our away tour to Australia before this last time was SEVEN years ago. Same for England.

Yet each time we managed to win atleast once or twice in ODIs. Even your batting has been shocking this time around. Eg today's performance, losing by 200 runs is really poor stuff. And I don't see it getting better, a lot of your top batsmen are aging and your bowling is poor. Fizz is being ruined due to injuries, I don't even know what Mortaza is doing in the team.
 
BD have always been minnows they just had a purple patch in 2015
 
Bangladesh u.19 lost a 5 match series 3-1 at home against Afghanistan recently.

It's only a matter of time before Afghanistan surpases them. I cannot imagine Afghanistan giving such poor performance 17 years from today.
 
BDwarriors said:
Pakistan were in SA 2013. They won the ODI series 2-1. BD played in SA for first time , not like pakistan. Pak has played more away matches than BD; recent years too, yet one shouldnt compare pak with BD to prove BD as minnow! I still think in ODI BD will be more competitive against Pak than in test.

BD´s bowling is toothless but batting is competitive.
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Before that we toured in 2013 after 7 years and lost the series 3-2
That was our weakest team in history with the likes of Younis and Malik being our main ODI batters
 
Bay Garrett said:
Some posters like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] want to invite them to UAE for a series LOL. But he also thinks indian bowling is the best in the world. The team that can't defend 280 at home on a turning pitch vs. NZ. Well at least the best bowling, indian shoopershtars took 3 wickets :)
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Pakistan vs Bangladesh in the UAE will end 3-2 to either team. Don't underestimate their bowling attack based on what you saw in SA. Their bowlers are tailor-made for the slow UAE pitches.

Secondly, as I said in the other thread, SA have the best bowling attack and not India, but India's attack is excellent. I said SA and India have the best attacks, I didn't say their attacks are equal.
 
Sri Lanka were a minnow in the 80s. They were granted Test status in 1981, in a few years they won a Test against 1983 World Cup and WCC champions India and also won a Test against an Imran Khan led Pakistan. They defeated Australia in an inaugural ODI series at home which included Dennis Lillee and also once reached an Asia Cup final. They drew a one off test against England in 1984....but still they were called minnows.

Bangladesh have just started making some progress that too in ODIs after 16 years. It's a long road ahead...
 
Apart from losing all matches to South Africa in all 3 formats [test, odi, t20]
They even lost the tour match to SA invitation XI :)))
they drew another tour match but the 2nd string SA Side still made 300+. Extremely baffling, how their ICC rankings are so high.
 
Guys, relax. Bangla bros just wanted to be nice to PAK, INDIA & SL.

they just kept the asian tradition alive. Getting spanked. If they wanted they would have beaten SA easily.
 
Yep, Bangladesh still minnows indeed. Hilarious how deluded their fans are:))
 
Minnows dont beat England and Australia at home, make the CT semi finals and the knock outs of the last world cup.

Some people seem to have a 46 year old chip on the shoulder to still believe BD are whipping boys....

Still have a ways to go away from home though. In Asia though, as they've proven, they can beat anybody.
 
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