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Bangladesh v England | 1st Test | Chittagong | Oct 20-24, 2016 | Day 3

One of the most stupid and ugliest shot played by shakib in context of the match, and it can easily be the match turning one, pathetic.
 
Were the Bangladeshi supporters really hopping got a 100-150 run lead!!!
 
Bangladesh have made some awful mistakes in this game. Credit to England too
 
Great bowling from Stokes this morning. Seemingly had quite the hearty breakfast, came out, then barely gave a run away and bowled out a side. Flintoff-esque; and probably match-winning.
 
Yatoo said:
Were the Bangladeshi supporters really hopping got a 100-150 run lead!!!
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Given we were 220/4 with 2 set batsman a 100 run lead was a given

Quite heartbreaking. This happens when you don't play test cricket for 14 months, its difficult. Although we made selection blunder, like not picking a batsman who has an average of 70 in domestic cricket.
 
I don't want to offend any Bangladeshi posters but Bangladesh in Test cricket have again been thoroughly exposed. Feels weird to watch an Asian team play such laughable cricket in Asia after watching Pakistan for so long. Both Pakistan and India are impossible to beat in their conditions because they don't make mistakes. They have a set template and they follow it every time. Frankly Mushfiqurs captaincy has been God awful. Way worse than even Mathews or Holder. But I'm pretty sure you guys will slowly get better with time. Mahmudullah should be made Test captain ASAP.
 
Bangladesh has again let it slip out of their hands.Just can't take the opportunity and dominate the proceedings.

England will score 250 and Bangladesh will be bundled out for 150 or less in 4th innings on this pitch.:mv
 
As much as we were looking good for a 350 run score,

Our best batsman, the leading allrounder in world cricket for 7 years(he was absolutely unparalleled). Arguably the most highly paid cricketer in Bangladesh, with 300+ international caps, experience of playing in every top T20 league in the world, having played 3 cricket world cups, and 6 World T20s decides to hit to slog on the 2nd ball of the day.

Perhaps this is what sets apart Shakib and the ATG allrounders like Botham.
 
aliasad1998 said:
I don't want to offend any Bangladeshi posters but Bangladesh in Test cricket have again been thoroughly exposed. Feels weird to watch an Asian team play such laughable cricket in Asia after watching Pakistan for so long. Both Pakistan and India are impossible to beat in their conditions because they don't make mistakes. They have a set template and they follow it every time. Frankly Mushfiqurs captaincy has been God awful. Way worse than even Mathews or Holder. But I'm pretty sure you guys will slowly get better with time. Mahmudullah should be made Test captain ASAP.
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Nothing to offend. And yes you are right, Mushfiqur is arguably the worst captain in the world although he has got a bit better. Actually, he is far better than Mathews. Mathews is the worst. Mushfiq is 2nd.

I think we played well in the test match barring the last session and also was doing well against the world's no. 1 team SA back in the 2015.

Our scenario is such because we have played so few test matches. And a 14 month gap really disrupts any teams condition. Look at how Kenya disappeared because they played only a handful cricket matches in between. The fact that we were playing test cricket after a long break was evident by the following shots:

-Switch hit by Riad
-Reverse sweep by Tamim and Riad
-Paddle scoop by Mushfiq
-Ugly slog from Shakib

Now these are our 4 best batsman. They are really good players.
 
MMHS bhai said one thing, that you can't win a test match in a session but you can certainly lose it.

We played better cricket in almost every session in the first 2 days, we lost this session so badly that we have been kicked out of the match.
 
aliasad1998 said:
I don't want to offend any Bangladeshi posters but Bangladesh in Test cricket have again been thoroughly exposed. Feels weird to watch an Asian team play such laughable cricket in Asia after watching Pakistan for so long. Both Pakistan and India are impossible to beat in their conditions because they don't make mistakes. They have a set template and they follow it every time. Frankly Mushfiqurs captaincy has been God awful. Way worse than even Mathews or Holder. But I'm pretty sure you guys will slowly get better with time. Mahmudullah should be made Test captain ASAP.
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Pakistan don't make mistakes! Let's go back in 90s.Pakistan lost a test to a weak test team New zeland when Mohammad Wasim made his debut.Probably back in 1997 i think.Pakistan lost to South Africa in a test match played in Pakistan chasing only 146 and were bundled out for 92 with poor attempt of stroke play. It was in 1997.Pakistan lost test series to Sri Lanka in Pakistan in 90s also .These are the examples when Pakistan had a very strong test team.And all these happened when Pakistan let opposition ride on them.

Yes, we make mistakes very often. That's why we are still a poor test side.And i also agree that Mushfiqur is not the right man to lead this test side.Shakib or Tamim can lead.
 
aliasad1998 said:
I don't want to offend any Bangladeshi posters but Bangladesh in Test cricket have again been thoroughly exposed. Feels weird to watch an Asian team play such laughable cricket in Asia after watching Pakistan for so long. Both Pakistan and India are impossible to beat in their conditions because they don't make mistakes. They have a set template and they follow it every time. Frankly Mushfiqurs captaincy has been God awful. Way worse than even Mathews or Holder. But I'm pretty sure you guys will slowly get better with time. Mahmudullah should be made Test captain ASAP.
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lol@Pakistan don't make mistakes.


Can you seriously say that with a straight face?
 
Reminds me of the first Test against India, we won more sessions and looked in a good position to get a good lead before collapsing and giving India a big lead. No excuses really, just not good enough to stay in the contest long enough. The better team usually finds itself establishing dominance and dictating proceedings from there.
 
Another 250 runs and this match is done. You'd think it would need a large collapse against the Bangladesh spinners now, for there to be any other outcome than an England win.
 
Aman said:
Reminds me of the first Test against India, we won more sessions and looked in a good position to get a good lead before collapsing and giving India a big lead. No excuses really, just not good enough to stay in the contest long enough. The better team usually finds itself establishing dominance and dictating proceedings from there.
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That is the reason why test cricket usually has fewer upsets. You can always guess the result before the match.

One of the biggest demerits of this lovely format.
 
That was arguably the worst review ever. That was the plumbest LBW ever.
 
A couple of more wickets and this could actually be our session :))

But seriously, we have lost the match in this session. Our only hope is that the ball doesn't reverse swing the way it does doing today and yesterday evening.
 
England still should go onto win this match, but their spinners have been poor so I would back Bangladesh to chase 250 but not anything more.

We now have 3 wickets! We don't have to chase 250 :))
 
Mainul said:
Pakistan don't make mistakes! Let's go back in 90s.Pakistan lost a test to a weak test team New zeland when Mohammad Wasim made his debut.Probably back in 1997 i think.Pakistan lost to South Africa in a test match played in Pakistan chasing only 146 and were bundled out for 92 with poor attempt of stroke play. It was in 1997.Pakistan lost test series to Sri Lanka in Pakistan in 90s also .These are the examples when Pakistan had a very strong test team.And all these happened when Pakistan let opposition ride on them.

Yes, we make mistakes very often. That's why we are still a poor test side.And i also agree that Mushfiqur is not the right man to lead this test side.Shakib or Tamim can lead.
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'Poor test side' is a poor observation in itself. Bangladesh is a barely a test side at the moment. If you cannot dominate with the pitch in your favour and a host of spinners, then there is something seriously wrong with the mindset of every single player in the team.
 
Cook, Root and now Duckett gone. Lunch. Good comeback from Bangladesh and now the match looks competitive again; England's small 1st innings lead also now looks massive.

Score effectively is 73 for 3. England need a lead of bare minimum 220 surely.
 
James said:
Cook, Root and now Duckett gone. Lunch. Good comeback from Bangladesh and now the match looks competitive again; England's small 1st innings lead also now looks massive.

Score effectively is 73 for 3. England need a lead of bare minimum 220 surely.
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200 target would be hard to achieve in this pitch. Assuming Moeen and Rashid don't bowl filth.

175 would be close.

150 slightly favouring Bangladesh.

Below that, Bangladesh should win unless they choke super bad.
 
This is a bunsen.

200 is the outer limit for the 4th innings.

England need a 50-run partnership and they're safe.
 
Stokes really turned the game around.

Great fightback by Bangladesh.

Rank turners bring the pressure component into the picture BIG TIME.

3 days of pressure cooker situation.
 
Usman Chadda said:
'Poor test side' is a poor observation in itself. Bangladesh is a barely a test side at the moment. If you cannot dominate with the pitch in your favour and a host of spinners, then there is something seriously wrong with the mindset of every single player in the team.
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I have been in Pakpassion for over 4 years, and Pakistani fans were complaining when Pakistan didn't have enough tests in a calender at one point. Yes they had a 6 month gap in test cricket, and Pakistan also lost to Zimbabwe team at the time.

Lets face it, we don't play enough cricket. We have played 45 matches in the last 10 years. England plays 45 matches in 2 years. Infact, England has played more test cricket in spin friendly conditions than Bangladesh has had in the same period! Same applies to NZ.

TBF South Africa hasn't played in Asia for a while, and they struggled against us a year back.
 
Executioner said:
I have been in Pakpassion for over 4 years, and Pakistani fans were complaining when Pakistan didn't have enough tests in a calender at one point. Yes they had a 6 month gap in test cricket, and Pakistan also lost to Zimbabwe team at the time.

Lets face it, we don't play enough cricket. We have played 45 matches in the last 10 years. England plays 45 matches in 2 years. Infact, England has played more test cricket in spin friendly conditions than Bangladesh has had in the same period! Same applies to NZ.

TBF South Africa hasn't played in Asia for a while, and they struggled against us a year back.
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But BCB could at least arrange some regular first class matches. So much focus on LA tournaments.
 
Match is in the balance again.

We can chase 200-225 on this wicket, nothing more. The reason why I think we can chase 200-225 is because the match won't go into the 5th day when the pitch will be absolute mindfield.
 
Salaam guys!

So England effectively 73/3.

This is turning out to be a very interesting game! :)
 
Executioner said:
I have been in Pakpassion for over 4 years, and Pakistani fans were complaining when Pakistan didn't have enough tests in a calender at one point. Yes they had a 6 month gap in test cricket, and Pakistan also lost to Zimbabwe team at the time.

Lets face it, we don't play enough cricket. We have played 45 matches in the last 10 years. England plays 45 matches in 2 years. Infact, England has played more test cricket in spin friendly conditions than Bangladesh has had in the same period! Same applies to NZ.

TBF South Africa hasn't played in Asia for a while, and they struggled against us a year back.
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Bangladesh should perform better than they are to have teams take any interest in inviting them over or tour them consistently. The ODI team would definitely attract crowds and so I believe they will start getting invites for a few ODIs now and then. But the test team is atrocious to say the least and relies completely on spinners exploiting dodgy pitches. You put these spinners on a UAE wicket, I would expect them to get smashed.
 
JattMaula said:
But BCB could at least arrange some regular first class matches. So much focus on LA tournaments.
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My dear Indian brother, you will not understand the difficulty.

India has a fantastic domestic system. Yes it doesn't prepare your players for international cricket as well but its still good. You have a lot of investment, and a good structure. Problem with our cricket is that we were thrown, literally, thrown into the fire! We had to develop domestic tournaments without much talent and investment. As a result, we have 4 different tournaments with 4 different franchise/club owners. What made it worse was that when we were focussing solely on List A and FC, the phenomena called T20 came and we had to work hard on that.

And Bengal is one part of the world which faces the most amount of precipitation which means the entire June-August period is not fit to host domestic cricket in the SC.

Also, the terrorism issue has hit us hard. We were to host Australia, and many felt that we could actually win the test series! I didn't TBH, but we could have competed very well against Australia.

BTW, we have 2 FC tournament, only 1 list A tournament. And mind you we have some quality FC cricketers, Shadman Islam, Mosaddek, Litton Das, Zakir Hasan, all U-21. Mosaddek has an average of 70 after 4 FC tournaments.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Bangladesh should perform better than they are to have teams take any interest in inviting them over or tour them consistently. The ODI team would definitely attract crowds and so I believe they will start getting invites for a few ODIs now and then. But the test team is atrocious to say the least and relies completely on spinners exploiting dodgy pitches. You put these spinners on a UAE wicket, I would expect them to get smashed.
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Trust me, if Fizz and Taskin becomes fit we would have a world class bowling unit

Shakib
Miraz
Fizz
Taskin
Taijul
 
The way England have performed here, I think they will struggle if they get the same pitches we got.

It would be silly for India to prepare rank turners.
 
Absolute horror by BD in the morning. Let's hope England Crumble to spinner, so bd could chase around 200-220. I don't see BD winning this if England give them 240+
 
Executioner said:
Trust me, if Fizz and Taskin becomes fit we would have a world class bowling unit

Shakib
Miraz
Fizz
Taskin
Taijul
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Besides Mustafizur, none of them are anything special. I will back this bowling attack to do slightly better than the current West Indies bowling attack on any pitch outside Bangladesh/India.
 
Ex- you have answers for everything eh. If I were you, I will just stay quiet and pray for BD to win.
 
Usman Chadda said:
Besides Mustafizur, none of them are anything special. I will back this bowling attack to do slightly better than the current West Indies bowling attack on any pitch outside Bangladesh/India.
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Shakib and Miraz are quality bowlers, and Taskin be effective on pace friendly wickets. He already averages 25 in LOIs playing mostly in the SC. Obviously, test is different, but Taskin has good bounce, pace.

Its really our batting which needs to improve, especially lower order batting.
 
I will be happy if we pick 20 wickets, I don't remember when was the last time we picked up 20 wickets against a major test playing nation. :shakib (still an idiot)
 
Executioner said:
India has a fantastic domestic system.
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No, India doesn't have a fantastic domestic system. It's insufficient and low standard.

And I do understand the difficulty but its been 16 years since the test status and still your batsmen are learning on job.
 
Next Match Changes:

Kamrul Out: Al Amin or Ash
Shafiul Out: Jubair Hossain or Ash
Sabbir Out: Nasir or Ash
 
JattMaula said:
No, India doesn't have a fantastic domestic system. It's insufficient and low standard.

And I do understand the difficulty but its been 16 years since the test status and still your batsmen are learning on job.
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Thats because our domestic system is even substandard. Our top cricketers themselves don't get to play enough FC cricket, because they are busy playing LOIs for Bangladesh. The issue is that we are dominated by the franchises. Our top players are almost obliged to play the List A tournaments because the club members won't otherwise take the field. And obviously, they have to play in the BPL.

And remind you that Riad, Tamim, Mushfiq were all mediocre cricketers when they debuted. Dilshan for example was mediocre till 32. Shakib had exceptional talent though. Our new group of young players are more skilled - Mehdi Miraz, Liton, Mustafiz, Taskin, Mosaddek all have more promise. They have a bigger ceiling.
 
England can not play spin at all. All 13 wickets by opposition spinners. A great shame for a top test team.
 
If I had a 100 dollar for every reprieves Moien Ali has got, i could afford an Iphone 7 with all the accesories + apps
 
If we played proper cricket we could have made England struggle to avoid innings defeat. Here we are slightly on the backfoot.
 
Ooof, Moeen gone now. This is a good fightback from Bangladesh
 
England put on 187 in the 1st innings after the fall of the 5th wicket. So long way to go still for Bangladesh
 
Bangladesh have a massive opportunity here, but fate might have Stokes score a 75 to put it out of reach - I can just see it happening.
 
there is still a lot of wickets left. England have 5 more wickets left

Bangladesh definitely ahead and favorites atm but England can still win this match.
 
England has a very long tail which has been the difference between them and SAF, Aus, India and us.

It was a huge challenge overcoming that in our recently concluded test series, making it all the more impressive.

Could very well be the difference here.
 
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that was 2 submarine deliveries in a row!

Mushfiq got out to a submarine delivery yesterday
 
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