Bangladesh v Pakistan | Match 43, World Cup | 5th July, 2019 | Pre-Match Discussion Thread

[AamchiMumbaikar]

If BDesh loses against IND then they will be de motivated and will be up there for the taking, I still can see why Pak can not win big against them and go past NZ!

 

[jnaveen1980]

Amir in English conditions will be a huge difference. If BD negotiates Amir better then they are in business for sure.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Amir in English conditions will be a huge difference. If BD negotiates Amir better then they are in business for sure.

Weather has become hot. It will either be slow or flat.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

I think if you go to the NRR thread the calculations are there for you to see its literally impossible for us to qualify through NRR. We really need NZ to win to have a chance.

But one thing I find funny is how you wrote a long post a week or so ago about NZ being ovverated now your backing them to beat England.

I am perfectly aware of the NRR calculations, but nothing is impossible. Still, I know it's pretty tough for us to go through if England wins tomorrow, especially if by a small margin.

Regrading New Zealand cricket team being overrated, I wrote that post when they were unbeaten and people were saying this and that about them and that Pakistan will be thrashed by New Zealand, having no chance of victory against them, their performance since then shows how correct I was about them back then.

I didn't say England is not overrated too, when a team like Sri Lanka can beat them, how and why a better team in New Zealand can't do the same?

It will be an exciting match between 2 teams who fail under pressure, with England feeling it more due to several reasons.

 

[SportsWarrior]

I am perfectly aware of the NRR calculations, but nothing is impossible. Still, I know it's pretty tough for us to go through if England wins tomorrow, especially if by a small margin.

Regrading New Zealand cricket team being overrated, I wrote that post when they were unbeaten and people were saying this and that about them and that Pakistan will be thrashed by New Zealand, having no chance of victory against them, their performance since then shows how correct I was about them back then.

I didn't say England is not overrated too, when a team like Sri Lanka can beat them, how and why a better team in New Zealand can't do the same?

It will be an exciting match between 2 teams who fail under pressure, with England feeling it more due to several reasons.

actually even if Eng wins by say 50 runs and then BD bats first it will be mathematically impossible as Pak will mostly have to chase whatever target BD sets within less than zero overs

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Assuming Eng wins against NZ with a good margin, by what margin should Pak def Desh to reach semis ?

Both wins should be around 200-220 runs.

actually even if Eng wins by say 50 runs and then BD bats first it will be mathematically impossible as Pak will mostly have to chase whatever target BD sets within less than zero overs

Do we know that they will bat first though?

 

[Hasan123]

I am perfectly aware of the NRR calculations, but nothing is impossible. Still, I know it's pretty tough for us to go through if England wins tomorrow, especially if by a small margin.

Regrading New Zealand cricket team being overrated, I wrote that post when they were unbeaten and people were saying this and that about them and that Pakistan will be thrashed by New Zealand, having no chance of victory against them, their performance since then shows how correct I was about them back then.

I didn't say England is not overrated too, when a team like Sri Lanka can beat them, how and why a better team in New Zealand can't do the same?

It will be an exciting match between 2 teams who fail under pressure, with England feeling it more due to several reasons.

It is literally impossible for us to get through by NRR according to the figures on the NRR thread as I said. Please just be realistic rather than positive.

Only trolls on here were saying that they would thrash us. No serious person was.

Lol they still have those weaknesses and have players out of form whilst England have momentum after beating India.

New Zealand struggled against West Indies and Bangladesh so don't act as though they haven't struggled against weaker teams.

I think England will win. It's a small ground . Expecting a flat pitch . Which suits England.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

It is literally impossible for us to get through by NRR according to the figures on the NRR thread as I said. Please just be realistic rather than positive.

Only trolls on here were saying that they would thrash us. No serious person was.

Lol they still have those weaknesses and have players out of form whilst England have momentum after beating India.

New Zealand struggled against West Indies and Bangladesh so don't act as though they haven't struggled against weaker teams.

I think England will win. It's a small ground . Expecting a flat pitch . Which suits England.

It's not impossible, that is what I just said, it's tough but anything can happen with God's will. Do you want me to say a lie and accept that it is impossible?

Why are you telling me that? I pointed out those weaknesses and know that they can't overcome them in 1 week. New Zealand struggled against weak teams due to that but still managed to get over the line, whereas England lost.

England have momentum of just 1 win, they might start ahead of New Zealand in terms of winning chance for that match, but we have seen plenty of teams winning that weren't supposed to.

 

[Alamgeer]

Game over for BD. No way BD can win match batting second. Hard luck BD.

 

[saeedhk]

Most likely England will beat NZ. Then, Pak only has a chance if we thrash Bangladesh. Should open with Asif Ali and ask him to hit from ball 1. No point in winning by 10-20 runs. Have to aim for 360 to get our run rate above NZ.

 

[Hasan123]

It's not impossible, that is what I just said, it's tough but anything can happen with God's will. Do you want me to say a lie and accept that it is impossible?

Why are you telling me that? I pointed out those weaknesses and know that they can't overcome them in 1 week. New Zealand struggled against weak teams due to that but still managed to get over the line, whereas England lost.

England have momentum of just 1 win, they might start ahead of New Zealand in terms of winning chance for that match, but we have seen plenty of teams winning that weren't supposed to.

It is impossible especially it NZ lose by a close margin. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] showed me a calculations where if we are chasing even if we got it in 1 ball we are still out.

Well New Zealand have lost their last 2 so they are not in good form and a lot of their players are out of form as well.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

It is impossible especially it NZ lose by a close margin. [MENTION=133760]Abdullah719[/MENTION] showed me a calculations where if we are chasing even if we got it in 1 ball we are still out.

Well New Zealand have lost their last 2 so they are not in good form and a lot of their players are out of form as well.

You are just pointing out scenarios in which it's near to impossible, also that calculation he did was wrong although he was close.

Still, is it written somewhere that New Zealand will lose by a small margin or we will have to bowl first?

New Zealand are what they are, only Martin Guptill has performed below par, Tom Latham and Colin Munro aren't good anyway. Rest of them have performed close to their level.

 

[The_Odd_One]

1. If New Zealand beats England then Pakistan plays cautious cricket to beat Bangladesh and goes to semis.

2. If England beats New Zealand with a small margin then the Pakistan vs Bangladesh match becomes dead-rubber.

3. If England beats New Zealand by a huge margin then Pakistan goes all out and plays Asif over Imam to try winning the Bangladesh game by a big margin.

 

[Syed1]

Feeling nervous about our game with BD considering how they are playing against Ind. Remaining cool and calm while chasing a big score. There is a distinct possibility that NZ might beat Eng but we may struggle to overcome BD.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Feeling nervous about our game with BD considering how they are playing against Ind. Remaining cool and calm while chasing a big score. There is a distinct possibility that NZ might beat Eng but we may struggle to overcome BD.

If Pakistan does not beat Bangladesh then they don't deserve to qualify for the semis ahead of England and New Zealand.

 

[Asif321]

Wel tommrow game will decide
How Pakistan will play vs BD

 

[Hasan123]

You are just pointing out scenarios in which it's near to impossible, also that calculation he did was wrong although he was close.

Still, is it written somewhere that New Zealand will lose by a small margin or we will have to bowl first?

New Zealand are what they are, only Martin Guptill has performed below par, Tom Latham and Colin Munro aren't good anyway. Rest of them have performed close to their level.

Well I asked him and that was his response. I don't want to rely on NRR as the calculation seem unlikely.

No it is not written but I am just making a possibility that could happen.

Latham is a good player but he is seriously out of form and his replacement is not experienced. Nichols doesn't have much game time.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Unlikely, but possible on NRR.

Similarly, I am pointing out the possibility that New Zealand can lose by a big margin and we can bat first and post a big total.

I don't consider Latham as a good player in LOIs, you can have your opinion.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Well I asked him and that was his response. I don't want to rely on NRR as the calculation seem unlikely.

No it is not written but I am just making a possibility that could happen.

Latham is a good player but he is seriously out of form and his replacement is not experienced. Nichols doesn't have much game time.

Unlikely, but possible on NRR.

Similarly, I am pointing out the possibility that New Zealand can lose by a big margin and we can bat first and post a big total.

I don't consider Latham as a good player in LOIs, you can have your opinion.

Was replying to you.

 

[Hasan123]

Unlikely, but possible on NRR.

Similarly, I am pointing out the possibility that New Zealand can lose by a big margin and we can bat first and post a big total.

I don't consider Latham as a good player in LOIs, you can have your opinion.

It's better if NZ win rather than rely on NRR.

Latham is a decent ODI player. Tests is his strongest format. He is out of form right now. Don't see NZ dropping him in this tournament.

 

[Kianig89]

All our Duas and prayers for Mz brethren plz go and win the game i'd say bat first and make 300+ which is unlikely

My prediction eng bats first scores 310 NZ bundled out on 240ish

 

[BuffaloSoldier]

Wonder if now the Bangladesh bros are out - could they let us win by a massive margin so we can all take revenge on India for throwing the game vs England and ruining the tournament for us south Asian brothers?

 

[Arsalan Pro]

It's better if NZ win rather than rely on NRR.

Latham is a decent ODI player. Tests is his strongest format. He is out of form right now. Don't see NZ dropping him in this tournament.

Obviously, every Pakistani will feel tomorrow we are playing out there instead of New Zealand themselves.

They won't drop him, but they should in my opinion. Tom Blundell for all his inexperience is a attacking batsman who can take on the bowling at any time, more of a New Zealand kind. Whereas, Tom Latham is more of an Asian type, good at playing spin, rotating the strike and not quick in run scoring.

On a flat wicket which is to be served tomorrow, with England playing 5 pace bowlers and one solitary spinner, who also isn't in best of forms. Tom Blundell has far more value than Tom Latham, and it could prove to be a masterstroke for NZ's chances going forward in the tournament.

 

[cric_man]

1. If New Zealand beats England then Pakistan plays cautious cricket to beat Bangladesh and goes to semis.

2. If England beats New Zealand with a small margin then the Pakistan vs Bangladesh match becomes dead-rubber.

3. If England beats New Zealand by a huge margin then Pakistan goes all out and plays Asif over Imam to try winning the Bangladesh game by a big margin.

^^^^^^ This. 1 or 2 most likely.
As a Pakistani fan, be ready for scenario 2 and be pleasantly surprised if it ends up being # 1
No need pinning hopes on #3.

 

[ZaudStorm]

Wonder if now the Bangladesh bros are out - could they let us win by a massive margin so we can all take revenge on India for throwing the game vs England and ruining the tournament for us south Asian brothers?

Dude, we aren't here for charity. I'd be happy if Pakistan progresses but don't expect us to do anything similar to what India did. Gotta earn your victory.

 

[ARK Rafay]

If England wins today and over 150-200 runs. Pakistan should go all guns and blazzing.

Get Husnain and Asif Ali IN. Win the toss, bat first and aim to hit the 500 mark.

1. Fakhar
2. Babar
3. Asif
4. Sarfraz
5. Haris
6. Hafeez
7. Imad/Shadab
8. Wahab
9. Husnain
10. Shaheen
11. Amir

 

[Bangladesh_Fan]

If England wins today and over 150-200 runs. Pakistan should go all guns and blazzing.

Get Husnain and Asif Ali IN. Win the toss, bat first and aim to hit the 500 mark.

1. Fakhar
2. Babar
3. Asif
4. Sarfraz
5. Haris
6. Hafeez
7. Imad/Shadab
8. Wahab
9. Husnain
10. Shaheen
11. Amir

500? This is not Bermuda you are playing against bro. They are not going to let Pak just waltz in and score 500 just like that especially when even India's strong batting line up could not get 350 yesterday. And Pakistan are a much inferior team to India .

 

[ARK Rafay]

500? This is not Bermuda you are playing against bro. They are not going to let Pak just waltz in and score 500 just like that especially when even India's strong batting line up could not get 350 yesterday. And Pakistan are a much inferior team to India .

You know too it's impossible bro. I'm just JKing

 

[taqi]

Looks like a dead rubber

 

[zee-za-man]

If they play Asif and throw out Imam I'll watch otherwise no sense watching it if Pakistan does not go down fighting hard for the NRR.

Fakhar
Asif
Babar
Haris
Hafeez
Sarfraz
Wahab
Imad/Hasnain
Shadab
Amir
Shaheen

 

[BDfanforever]

Wonder if now the Bangladesh bros are out - could they let us win by a massive margin so we can all take revenge on India for throwing the game vs England and ruining the tournament for us south Asian brothers?

Thats why you need good relationships with your neighbors.

 

[Invincible Gujjar]

This is going to be a dead rubber now.i would give husnain a chance to break that fastest ball record of this world cup.

 

[bujhee kom]

Dead rubber. Who cares?
The 4 best sides through. Aust to win as was my call before it all started.
Aust v England final.

 

[Abdullah719]

Look forward to Hasnain playing.

 

[ARK Rafay]

I want to see Husnain and Asif and Imam out. Please inzi imam out

 

[Rayyman]

Hafeez and Wahab out for Hasan and Hasnain.

Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Sarfraz*+
Imad
Shadab
Hasan
Amir
Shaheen
Hasnain

 

[Sami92]

Time for a makeshift opener in Asif Ali for one match if Pakistan bats first. I'll drop Imam for him.

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Asif Ali
3. Babar Azam
4. Haris Sohail
5. Mohammad Hafeez
6. Sarfaraz Ahmed (C+WK)
7. Imad Wasim
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Shadab Khan
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Shaheen Afridi

 

[Boi]

If Malik and Hafeez have any shame they should be retiring after this game.

 

[nads_rocks]

Its a dead rubber so may as well go all out

Fakhar
Asif
Babar
Imad
Wahab
Safraz
Hafeez
Shadab
Amir
Hasnain
Shaheen

 

[saeedhk]

Sarfraz should show some courage and open with Asif. It’s a dead rubber so why not try to score 400? At least exit in a thrilling way. But Pak as always will open with Imam and we will score 280 if we bat first.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Should Pakistan go into Bangladesh match with XI batsmen

Considering how much they would have to score.

If 500 is the target, then you should have a batting that bats right till the tail.

 

[coy0607]

They don't even have 11 batsmen in England

 

[Captain caveman]

But they need to bowl out/restrict bangladesh as well!

 

[Sir Alex]

They should go with 20 players.. 11 batsmen to bat and then 9 bowlers to bowl out.

 

[junaidji]

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Asif Ali
3. Mohammad Hafeez
4. Babar Azam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Hasan Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Imad Wasim
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Shadab Khan
11. Mohammad Amir

We've got nothing to lose. Might as well try aiming for the sun and go all out!

 

[junaidji]

Play this team if you want to try making 400. Need as much firepower in there. Even if it seems extremely unlikely, I would not go down without a fight.

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Asif Ali
3. Mohammad Hafeez
4. Babar Azam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Hasan Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Imad Wasim
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Shadab Khan
11. Mohammad Amir

 

[ARK Rafay]

Play this team if you want to try making 400. Need as much firepower in there. Even if it seems extremely unlikely, I would not go down without a fight.

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Asif Ali
3. Mohammad Hafeez
4. Babar Azam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Hasan Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Imad Wasim
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Shadab Khan
11. Mohammad Amir

Swap Babar with Asif. Because Babar plays best inside 1st powerplay

 

[hussain.r97]

Pakistan should go for it, they have nothing to lose. Would be amazing if they pull it off, and if they don't, well at least they tried. Play this team-

Fakhar Zaman
Babar Azam
Asif Ali
Haris Sohail
Mohammad Hafeez
Imad Wasim
Wahab Riaz
Sarfraz Ahmed+*
Shadab Khan
Mohammad Amir
Shaheen Shah Afridi

Remember that even if we score 450, we need to get them out for 129 runs, so we need to play a good bowling lineup too.

 

[CricFan2012]

Weird dilemma, go for the win with their proven XI, or go for an impossible win?

There is no way someone like Fakhar with that technique of his is going to score a double century against Bangladeshi bowlers who are a notch above Zimbabwean bowlers in a decent pitch that helps bowling as well as batting, and Fakhar is the only player who can get you 450.

Only Fakhar, Babar, and Hafeez are capable of scoring at a 100+ strike rate consistently, unlike the English who have 5-6, and they haven't scored over 400 yet this World Cup.

Pakistan will go for this improbable win if they care more about the reception at home, to show Pakistanis that they tried but it was beyond their reach.

 

[Captain caveman]

1. Fakhar Zaman
2. Asif Ali
3. Mohammad Hafeez
4. Babar Azam
5. Haris Sohail
6. Hasan Ali
7. Sarfraz Ahmed
8. Imad Wasim
9. Wahab Riaz
10. Shadab Khan
11. Mohammad Amir

We've got nothing to lose. Might as well try aiming for the sun and go all out!

Very good selection for the dire situation we are in!

 

[Savak]

Get Shoaib Malik in to blast the spinners. Bangladesh is predominantly spin oriented

 

[Captain caveman]

Do people remeber my thread about using asif ali as an opener with fakhar!
Everyone ridicule me!
Everyone wanted imam as opener.
Imam this wc averages 26 with a strike rate of 67!
This is one of the reasons we are in this mess!
Pretty sure asif could have score 26 runs in 26 or less deliveries, and not 40 odd like imam!
Now everyone wants asif to open the batting against bangladesh, lol!

 

[rhony]

Do people remeber my thread about using asif ali as an opener with fakhar!
Everyone ridicule me!
Everyone wanted imam as opener.
Imam this wc averages 26 with a strike rate of 67!
This is one of the reasons we are in this mess!
Pretty sure asif could have score 26 runs in 26 or less deliveries, and not 40 odd like imam!
Now everyone wants asif to open the batting against bangladesh, lol!

That's because you already had Asif Ali 2.0 as an opener - Fakhar Zaman. What's his average anyway?

 

[GenericBrand]

Lol this isn't BD of 2008

 

[Captain caveman]

That's because you already had Asif Ali 2.0 as an opener - Fakhar Zaman. What's his average anyway?

Fakhar has been burden with scoring fast to make up for imams strike rate!
Give fakhar a partner who can carry his own weight, then see the results!

 

[Captain caveman]

Fakhar has been burden with scoring fast to make up for imams strike rate!
Give fakhar a partner who can carry his own weight, then see the results!

I wouldn't care if fakhar and asif both got out in the first 10 overs as long as they scored 80 odd runs in those first 10 overs!

 

[BreadPakoda]

Really looking forward to this game.

Pakistan need to be vary of Soumya Sarkar - the bowler, Shakib - both bowler and batsman. Bangladesh would do themselves a world of good by getting a quick start and not buckling down against the Pakistani medium pacers.

Sadly, like in many other games, a lot depends on the toss here as well. I would give 70% winning chance to the team that bats first.

Good luck to both the teams.

 

[Captain caveman]

Get Shoaib Malik in to blast the spinners. Bangladesh is predominantly spin oriented

I thought about this, but he will probably lose us the match, judging from his performances in this wc!

 

[BreadPakoda]

I thought about this, but he will probably lose us the match, judging from his performances in this wc!

Shoaib Malik and Hafeez could play as this could be the farewell match for the stars of the last two decades.


Shoaib Malik, Mohammad Hafeez, and Wahab Riaz could get their last hurray.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Could be the last game of Mashrafe Mortaza as well. What a champion he has been to take Bangladesh so far in world cricket.

 

[PakPremi]

As per media Pak likely to play Malik, Fakhar will be out and Hafeez will open. Bad news is Hasan Ali will replace Wahab who is still sore. Why can they not give Husnain a game - he is more likely to take a wicket and will at worst give away same runs as Hasan Ali.

 

[Snatch]

I'm picking Bangladesh to win, I think they're a better side currently.

 

[BreadPakoda]

As per media Pak likely to play Malik, Fakhar will be out and Hafeez will open. Bad news is Hasan Ali will replace Wahab who is still sore. Why can they not give Husnain a game - he is more likely to take a wicket and will at worst give away same runs as Hasan Ali.

Hasan can bat.

 

[Green Patriot]

As per media Pak likely to play Malik, Fakhar will be out and Hafeez will open. Bad news is Hasan Ali will replace Wahab who is still sore. Why can they not give Husnain a game - he is more likely to take a wicket and will at worst give away same runs as Hasan Ali.

Hasan and Malik back?Hafeez as an opener?
Do they want to win the last game or not.What a terrible 11,if true.

 

[Manager101]

As per media Pak likely to play Malik, Fakhar will be out and Hafeez will open. Bad news is Hasan Ali will replace Wahab who is still sore. Why can they not give Husnain a game - he is more likely to take a wicket and will at worst give away same runs as Hasan Ali.

Wow, just wow, so they are replacing Fakhar who is the only one capable of batting at fast pace.

Now I am happy that we got kicked out of World cup, this team management is rubbish.

 

[Leeon1994]

If they don't play hasnain here they really didn't deserve to come to the semis anyway.

Such injustice to new players and favouritism for old is beyond me.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

As unlikely it may seem, Pakistan should still try their best for SF berth and look to score as big as possible if given chance to bat first.

Need to drop Imam Ul Haq and Shadab Khan as they have no value for a game like this, can't reduce bowling as we have to bowl them out on a low total too.

Playing XI:

1) Fakhar Zaman
2) Asif Ali
3) Babar Azam
4) Haris Sohail
5) Mohammad Hafeez
6) Imad Wasim
7) Wahab Riaz
8) Hasan Ali
9) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
10) Mohammad Amir
11) Shaheen Afridi

 

[Sami92]

I wouldn't care if fakhar and asif both got out in the first 10 overs as long as they scored 80 odd runs in those first 10 overs!

Pakistan should get inspiration from the way Karunaratne & Kusal Perera took on Aussie bowlers in the first power play. Then there is always Roy-Bairstow who goes hard at the start.

 

[Ali_Pakistan]

Thing is if we bat first we should go all out. Doesn't matter if we get all out for 150 in the process. At least show that we were trying. Win or loss does not matter if we won't try.
If we bat second then try to play normal cricket and win the match.

 

[Sami92]

As per media Pak likely to play Malik, Fakhar will be out and Hafeez will open. Bad news is Hasan Ali will replace Wahab who is still sore. Why can they not give Husnain a game - he is more likely to take a wicket and will at worst give away same runs as Hasan Ali.

Who drops Fakhar when Pak needs to get as much as possible !

 

[ssuhaide]

Just shows mentality of Pakistan team selection that they select the old hasbeens for a final hurrah. This would have been a golden chance to give Hasnain a taste of playing in a world cup game. Need to be planning for 2023 now

 

[RainMan_]

Don't wanna see the shameless passenger aka Mash in BD Jersey ever again

Its a dead rubber anyway. If mash has any self respect, he'll drop himself from the squad and allow a younger player to play in his place.

 

[MenInG]

Pictures from reception held at the Pakistan HC in London for Pakistan squad

 

[Abdullah719]

As per media Pak likely to play Malik, Fakhar will be out and Hafeez will open. Bad news is Hasan Ali will replace Wahab who is still sore. Why can they not give Husnain a game - he is more likely to take a wicket and will at worst give away same runs as Hasan Ali.

Imagine being a Pakistan fan going to support your team for the dead rubber and they put up this tripe lineup.

 

[Mueez]

Imagine Pakistan somehow get in to the top 4 lol

What a mockery that will be for cricket...

 

[shokz1408]

Imagine Pakistan somehow get in to the top 4 lol

What a mockery that will be for cricket...

The biggest comeback in the history of sports

 

[Mueez]

The biggest comeback in the history of sports

 

[PCTPost2019]

Imagine Pakistan somehow get in to the top 4 lol

What a mockery that will be for cricket...

Stop hoping.

 

[Mueez]

Stop hoping.

I’m not hoping.

 

[saeedhk]

As per media Pak likely to play Malik, Fakhar will be out and Hafeez will open. Bad news is Hasan Ali will replace Wahab who is still sore. Why can they not give Husnain a game - he is more likely to take a wicket and will at worst give away same runs as Hasan Ali.

So Imam is opening when Pak is looking to score the highest ODI score? Sounds great. If true, it shows how brainless our management is. Imam has been exposed in this WC. Pathetic tuk tuk opener.