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Pakistan is about to loose by 10 wickets to India. Obviously the team needs some serious changes. What should the XI for Pakistan be against the next match of Bangladesh?

Here’s my opinion.

1. Imam ul Haq
2. Shan Masood
3. Babur Azam
4. Sarfraz Ahmed
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Asif Ali
7. Shadab Khan
8. Hasan Ali
9. Yasir Shah
10. Junaid Khan
11. Shaheen Afridi
 
Same team, I reckon this is our best 11 in these conditions

WEL actually I’d have Haris for imam but that ain’t happening
 
Drop Imam and fakhar for fielding reasons. Also drop hasan Ali I would like to drop Shadab but no other option.
 
Doesn't matter who we play, they are all gone. It's better to let this tournament be and focus on what's coming up next. Let Bangladesh or Afghanistan have their time in the sun, specially since they are more deserving and have the passion to play for their country.
 
Doesn't matter who we play, they are all gone. It's better to let this tournament be and focus on what's coming up next. Let Bangladesh or Afghanistan have their time in the sun, specially since they are more deserving and have the passion to play for their country.

I know this has been a horrible tournament so far but Pakistan is still in it. If we can the next two matches, none of these loses would mean anything.

On topic:
Shinwari for Amir is the only change I would make.
 
I know this has been a horrible tournament so far but Pakistan is still in it. If we can the next two matches, none of these loses would mean anything.

On topic:
Shinwari for Amir is the only change I would make.
I would bring in Faheem for Nawaz, bump Babar up to open and play Haris at number 3. Won't make a difference though. This is a performance for the ages and gives people like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ample opportunity to troll the rest of us till the WC next year.
 
1. Haris
2. Masood
3. Fakhar
4. Babar
5. Sarfraz
6. Malik
7. Shadab
8. Nawaz
9. Hasan
10. Junaid
11. Shaheen

Might as well try out the players on the bench in Masood, Haris and Junaid as we've been so disappointing. Nothing to lose, they can only be an improvement.
 
I would bring in Faheem for Nawaz, bump Babar up to open and play Haris at number 3. Won't make a difference though. This is a performance for the ages and gives people like [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] ample opportunity to troll the rest of us till the WC next year.

True but like I said if Pakistan wins the next two matches, all these defeats and trolling would be meaningless, winning the trophy is all that counts. It may seem overly optimistic right now but I think this team is capable of bouncing back and winning the next two games.

I agree Nawaz needs to go out for Faheem, we need Faheem's hitting in the lower order.
 
No need to analyze.Even take Mickey,Azhar in the team ,Pak will win.
 
Same team, I reckon this is our best 11 in these conditions

WEL actually I’d have Haris for imam but that ain’t happening

I disagree nothing against you just my opinion I'll have Faheem in place of Hasan Ali in these conditions there is no need of him..
 
Now who else left to play I will drop Asif Ali for Haris Sohail atleast have proper batsmen there
Amir or Junaid should play
 
Imam should be dropped, but he probably won't be. I would try Asif as an opener.
 
We need soumya. He loves Pakistani bowlers. Kick out shanto and replace him with soumya.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

We should select soumya against PAK. Shouldn't we?

Rubel as well. Actually, ideal case is Mash resting and Rubel replacing him, while SS will play in next game. It would have been unfair to drop Nazmul after 2 tough games. No excuse this time - batted first without pressure and got out to a nothing slog to Aftab.
 
PAK to win by 9 wickets inside 40 overs if they chase, or win by 3 digit margin batting first - the class difference demands this.

If we we bat first, need to put 130+ at least against best pace attack of world, otherwise might suffer 10 wicket humiliation. PAK's opening pair averages over 70 (I guess a little less now), so, 130 is critical number to avoid 10 wicket defeat.
 
PAK to win by 9 wickets inside 40 overs if they chase, or win by 3 digit margin batting first - the class difference demands this.

If we we bat first, need to put 130+ at least against best pace attack of world, otherwise might suffer 10 wicket humiliation. PAK's opening pair averages over 70 (I guess a little less now), so, 130 is critical number to avoid 10 wicket defeat.
Did you not watch Pakistan disintegrate into a million molecules just now?
 
Junaid khan has always been labelled as a poor bowler, but truth is, although he doesn't hit 140 kph and get the ball to swing, but he does at least take wickets. Bowling attack next game should be Shaheen, Hasan and Junaid.
 
Go heavy with the batting , Sarfraz at 6 and only two pacers + Faheem.

Pakistan will score big for the first time in this tournament. I can't see Bangladesh getting close.
 
Did you not watch Pakistan disintegrate into a million molecules just now?

Who cares - PP lives by the day.

I can write my thoughts on today's game and exactly what was going wrong, only to be trolled very next day.

When you are in Lanka, you have to be Ravan, because no one is going to leave me if we lose on Wednesday and that'll go back to 1986 to 2035 ......

I have lived in 5 continents, and I have friends from at least 25 different languages - I can tell you that arrogancy is a National problem for Pakistan, which has brought many more shameful days than being outclassed in a cricket game in past. It'll remain unchanged unless you start to respect people - rest of the world is not sitting idle at one spot.
 
Junaid in for Amir. That's all.

Haris can wait until Malik retires or someone gets injured. Not a big deal.

Imam dropped a catch but so did Fakhar. Let's be honest - Imam has been batting well. If we drop him just for that dropped catch, then let's drop Fakhar too.

The combo is right, but the players are just being dumb. Need to get their crap together.
 
Junaid in for Amir. That's all.

Haris can wait until Malik retires or someone gets injured. Not a big deal.

Imam dropped a catch but so did Fakhar. Let's be honest - Imam has been batting well. If we drop him just for that dropped catch, then let's drop Fakhar too.

The combo is right, but the players are just being dumb. Need to get their crap together.
Need Faheem back. Nawaz at 6 down inspires zero confidence. Dropping Faheem has ruined the balance of the side, and its not like Nawaz is running through sides with his off spin.
 
Need Faheem back. Nawaz at 6 down inspires zero confidence. Dropping Faheem has ruined the balance of the side, and its not like Nawaz is running through sides with his off spin.

Agree with this. My 2 changes would be Junaid for Amir and Faheem for Nawaz
 
Need Faheem back. Nawaz at 6 down inspires zero confidence. Dropping Faheem has ruined the balance of the side, and its not like Nawaz is running through sides with his off spin.

Nawaz got 3 wickets against Afg who are pretty decent players of spin. Plus you have to go in with 2 proper spinners. Your team management should play Shadab, Nawaz, Hasan, Shaheen and Junaid. That's your best 5 bowlers. And it's a good balance between spin and pace.
 
Asif/Sarfraz
Fakhar
Babar
Sohail
shohaib
Asif/Sarfraz
Faheem
Nawaz
Shadab
Amir
Hassan
 
Need Faheem back. Nawaz at 6 down inspires zero confidence. Dropping Faheem has ruined the balance of the side, and its not like Nawaz is running through sides with his off spin.

Wouldn't lose sleep over this one but tbh going in with just one spinner is criminal in these conditions. India had 4 today if you include Jadhav. Afghans have two quality ones.

Nawaz hasn't had much of a continuous run of games either so let's give him that right now. If he fails and fails continuously, then drop him.

No point of keeping him in the squad and then not playing him, that too in conditions tailor-made for spin bowling.
 
It actually goes against my team, but since it's asked -

1. Babar
2. Imam (WK)
3. FZ
4. Malik (C)
5. Haris
6. Asif
7. Shadab
8. Fahim
9. Nawaz
10. Amir
11. Afridi

Babar opens, because if he comes after 10-12 overs with Miraz & Apu bowling from both ends ... his superior batting class will be fatally tested. Mash will limp around again and he'll open the bowling - Babar can have some free hits, which should set him before the spinners come. FZ is a better player of spin, so he should bat with Malik in middle.

Imam is young, mobile and decent fielder - 48 hours practice is good enough for him to replace Sarfraz as WK, trust me - forty eight hours. Malik leads the side - at least someone who can put some individual performance to motivate the team and has decent IQ to put a tactics in to an action without barking at players, when they are under pressure themselves.

Hope pankha base won't skin out me later if PAK wins on Wednesday - I am just writing my mind as I see. At usual mood of operation, things are not happening na?
 
Asif
Fakhar
Babar
Sarfaraz
Malik
Shadab
Faheem
Nawaz
Hasan
Shaheen
Amir/junaid/usman
 
Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz
Asif Ali
Shadab Khan
Mohammad Nawaz
Hasan Ali
Junaid Khan
Shaheen Afridi
 
Wouldn't lose sleep over this one but tbh going in with just one spinner is criminal in these conditions. India had 4 today if you include Jadhav. Afghans have two quality ones.

Nawaz hasn't had much of a continuous run of games either so let's give him that right now. If he fails and fails continuously, then drop him.

No point of keeping him in the squad and then not playing him, that too in conditions tailor-made for spin bowling.
Then play him in place of either Amir or Shaheen. Faheem hasn't set the world alight with his batting, but having him come in at 6 down is far better than watching Nawaz come in and struggle to time the ball off the square. Lack of specialist spinners has definitely been a major issue for us this tournament, but I don't see any outstanding finger spinner in our domestic cricket at the moment who can stake a claim for the spot. When Nawaz is out-performing the specialist spinners in a one month tournament like PSL, you know you are in deep ****.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] I agree sarfaraz is indeed weak link . Unfortunately PCB will continue with him. He has to perform , there is no doubt that , he is playing in top 6 , needs to contribute.
 
It actually goes against my team, but since it's asked -

1. Babar
2. Imam (WK)
3. FZ
4. Malik (C)
5. Haris
6. Asif
7. Shadab
8. Fahim
9. Nawaz
10. Amir
11. Afridi

Babar opens, because if he comes after 10-12 overs with Miraz & Apu bowling from both ends ... his superior batting class will be fatally tested. Mash will limp around again and he'll open the bowling - Babar can have some free hits, which should set him before the spinners come. FZ is a better player of spin, so he should bat with Malik in middle.

Imam is young, mobile and decent fielder - 48 hours practice is good enough for him to replace Sarfraz as WK, trust me - forty eight hours. Malik leads the side - at least someone who can put some individual performance to motivate the team and has decent IQ to put a tactics in to an action without barking at players, when they are under pressure themselves.

Hope pankha base won't skin out me later if PAK wins on Wednesday - I am just writing my mind as I see. At usual mood of operation, things are not happening na?


Honest question , do you think Malik could do a better job than Sarfraz if he was made captain till the WC?
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] I agree sarfaraz is indeed weak link . Unfortunately PCB will continue with him. He has to perform , there is no doubt that , he is playing in top 6 , needs to contribute.

He'll support Imam's inclusion in the XI, which'll keep Ul Haq in his side. And, he'll bring back MoHa - a senior guy to balance it for him. We have criticized Misbah lot for picking own players, but you have no idea what Ul Haq & Sarfraz is. And, Arthur had been sacked from his previous 2 jobs - we won't see his opening mouth at all.

Sadly, CT win has handed some very incompetent people utmost power, and Arthur is not one of these people.
 
Honest question , do you think Malik could do a better job than Sarfraz if he was made captain till the WC?

I said before - if Azhar is replaced by Sarfraz, team will improve significantly. Same here - if Malik is made Captain, team'll improve, but now improving from 9th to 6th is one thing and 6th to top 4 is different - that gap is too wide to be honest. But yes, a PAK team under Malik won't surrender such shamefully like we saw against IND twice.

Simple reason is - in cricket, Captain is the leader; not Manager that he can get job don by others. Therefore 1st criteria for Captaincy is automatic selection in XI. This guy has managed Ul Haq to shut down even back-up WKs for squad to eradicate any threat.

I wrote many times that, lack of talent is just an excuse to keep seniors safe - Qasim & few others used that superficially, to a level that people started to believe that. Here same thing is happening for WK & Captaincy. Imagine, pankha base had the audacity to bring Captain Imarn in reference as Captain !!!!!!!!
 
I said before - if Azhar is replaced by Sarfraz, team will improve significantly. Same here - if Malik is made Captain, team'll improve, but now improving from 9th to 6th is one thing and 6th to top 4 is different - that gap is too wide to be honest. But yes, a PAK team under Malik won't surrender such shamefully like we saw against IND twice.

Simple reason is - in cricket, Captain is the leader; not Manager that he can get job don by others. Therefore 1st criteria for Captaincy is automatic selection in XI. This guy has managed Ul Haq to shut down even back-up WKs for squad to eradicate any threat.

I wrote many times that, lack of talent is just an excuse to keep seniors safe - Qasim & few others used that superficially, to a level that people started to believe that. Here same thing is happening for WK & Captaincy. Imagine, pankha base had the audacity to bring Captain Imarn in reference as Captain !!!!!!!!


It's disgraceful that there is no back up keeper. People's excuse of Sarfraz being the best isn't good enough. If he is the best we have , may as well finish domestic cricket.
 
Then play him in place of either Amir or Shaheen. Faheem hasn't set the world alight with his batting, but having him come in at 6 down is far better than watching Nawaz come in and struggle to time the ball off the square. Lack of specialist spinners has definitely been a major issue for us this tournament, but I don't see any outstanding finger spinner in our domestic cricket at the moment who can stake a claim for the spot. When Nawaz is out-performing the specialist spinners in a one month tournament like PSL, you know you are in deep ****.

Faheem for Amir wouldn't be too bad, but I'd prefer Junaid just because he's a specailist and hasn't done much wrong when given a chance.
 
Imam
Fakhar
Babar
Malik
Sarfraz
Asif
Faheem
Shadab
Nawaz
Shaheen
Hasan

Faheem has to come back in for me. Offers another power hottwe. Amir should be dropped , had enough of his nom existent and uninterested performances. Would love to drop Sarfraz but can't do that with no back up keeper.
 
BD batting is so unpredictable, but if BD scores first and then Pakistan put on to bat ,would be backing BD to win .

Pak is dependent on Fakhar, don't see anyone else playing with 6 SR, even Malik later on maybe.
 
I disagree nothing against you just my opinion I'll have Faheem in place of Hasan Ali in these conditions there is no need of him..

I’d bring in Faheem, too but in place of Amir. He’s absolutely clueless in these conditions. Hasan is out of form but has looked more threatening in today’s match.
 
PAK to win by 9 wickets inside 40 overs if they chase, or win by 3 digit margin batting first - the class difference demands this.

If we we bat first, need to put 130+ at least against best pace attack of world, otherwise might suffer 10 wicket humiliation. PAK's opening pair averages over 70 (I guess a little less now), so, 130 is critical number to avoid 10 wicket defeat.

Stop it now, will you. Is the whole point of your PP membership to taunt us about our class these days? You used to write great posts.

Of course, we’re confident about beating Bangladesh. Should we cower in fear of Bangladesh too now? It should be quite straightforward, on paper.
 
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If Pakistan approach this game with the mindset of how they played Afghanistan they will. Pakistan look panicked and vulnerable and opposition teams can see it. You should expect to see Bangladesh top 3 batsmen to attack Pakistan's bowling upfront to put them under pressure.
 
I said before - if Azhar is replaced by Sarfraz, team will improve significantly. Same here - if Malik is made Captain, team'll improve, but now improving from 9th to 6th is one thing and 6th to top 4 is different - that gap is too wide to be honest. But yes, a PAK team under Malik won't surrender such shamefully like we saw against IND twice.

Simple reason is - in cricket, Captain is the leader; not Manager that he can get job don by others. Therefore 1st criteria for Captaincy is automatic selection in XI. This guy has managed Ul Haq to shut down even back-up WKs for squad to eradicate any threat.

I wrote many times that, lack of talent is just an excuse to keep seniors safe - Qasim & few others used that superficially, to a level that people started to believe that. Here same thing is happening for WK & Captaincy. Imagine, pankha base had the audacity to bring Captain Imarn in reference as Captain !!!!!!!!

Boss. Replacing sarfaraz the player in the odi team will help us win more games, but that will have little to do with malik.
 
Who cares - PP lives by the day.

I can write my thoughts on today's game and exactly what was going wrong, only to be trolled very next day.

When you are in Lanka, you have to be Ravan, because no one is going to leave me if we lose on Wednesday and that'll go back to 1986 to 2035 ......

I have lived in 5 continents, and I have friends from at least 25 different languages - I can tell you that arrogancy is a National problem for Pakistan, which has brought many more shameful days than being outclassed in a cricket game in past. It'll remain unchanged unless you start to respect people - rest of the world is not sitting idle at one spot.

Agree with you that some of our fans are arrogant.
 
looking forward to a great game. honestly both teams are not playing their best cricket at the moment. both teams eked out a win against Afg and lost terribly against India.

neither team has the momentum as well. whoever turns that day and holds their nerves will win.
 
I would have felt more confident if Tamim was there. But his absence means our top order is extremely fragile and pretty sure we will be 2 wickets down in the first 10 overs.

But I am excited to play against Pak after a long time. Its the only Asian side we don't play as often.
 
Boss. Replacing sarfaraz the player in the odi team will help us win more games, but that will have little to do with malik.

I hope, now people won't mind to go back a year, when I wrote many times that PAK needs a bowling Captain, at least someone makes the team on merit and isn't burdened to deliver with bat - hence the name of Amir came, no personal love here - I am not his agent or brother in law. They made the worst choice - an over weight WK at wrong age, who was struggling in his core job, and not good enough with bat to make it as specialist batsman.

Malik's name came because PCB hasn't appointed any official deputy - all of a sudden if you make Babar or Amir or Hasan or FZ Captain, result might be devastating. Malik at least is certified senior, accepted and knows what he is doing. Besides, he is among the fittest (if YoYo score disagrees with me, then better burn that rubbish), and playing well.

Who else? Babar is only decent batsman left in the team, FZ needs to sort his game first, now Amir is not the same a year back, Hasan is even worse, Shadab is too raw, Asif might lose his spot next series, Imad might not make the team before WC, Haris can't manage own fitness let alone team ......... left is Imam, Nawaz or bring back ............. Salman Butt!!!!

It was one of the stupidest decision to make Sarfraz Captain for 3 formats at this age - he should have been Captain in 2015, or at most LO Captain after Azhar - still won't have lasted till 2019 on merit.
 
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Stop it now, will you. Is the whole point of your PP membership to taunt us about our class these days? You used to write great posts.

Of course, we’re confident about beating Bangladesh. Should we cower in fear of Bangladesh too now? It should be quite straightforward, on paper.

My apologies - I was reminded on Friday, that more than Back 2 back game, AFG fielders looked fatigued because of the class of the batsmen they were handling compared to previous game.
 
Fakhar
Sarfraz
Shan masood
Imam ul haq
Babar
Malik (10 overs spin)
Haris sohail (10 overs spin)
Asif ali
Nawaz (10 overs spin)
Faheem (10 overs pace)
Junaid khan (10 overs pace)

Can’t see this team being bowled out less than 160 so may as well man!
 
I hope, now people won't mind to go back a year, when I wrote many times that PAK needs a bowling Captain, at least someone makes the team on merit and isn't burdened to deliver with bat - hence the name of Amir came, no personal love here - I am not his agent or brother in law. They made the worst choice - an over weight WK at wrong age, who was struggling in his core job, and not good enough with bat to make it as specialist batsman.

Malik's name came because PCB hasn't appointed any official deputy - all of a sudden if you make Babar or Amir or Hasan or FZ Captain, result might be devastating. Malik at least is certified senior, accepted and knows what he is doing. Besides, he is among the fittest (if YoYo score disagrees with me, then better burn that rubbish), and playing well.

Who else? Babar is only decent batsman left in the team, FZ needs to sort his game first, now Amir is not the same a year back, Hasan is even worse, Shadab is too raw, Asif might lose his spot next series, Imad might not make the team before WC, Haris can't manage own fitness let alone team ......... left is Imam, Nawaz or bring back ............. Salman Butt!!!!

It was one of the stupidest decision to make Sarfraz Captain for 3 formats at this age - he should have been Captain in 2015, or at most LO Captain after Azhar - still won't have lasted till 2019 on merit.

Aamir was not going to happen for good reason. I would give it to on of the younger players, it it comes to that.
 
The batting form BD are currently in at the moment, it's a one way ticket for Pakistan to meet IND at the finals.
 
Haris Sohail replacing Asif Ali is a MUST for next game!

I cannot stress how important it is to play another accumulator in our already brittle middle order.

Hacks simply do not work in UAE conditions and Asif is adding little to no value currently in the team - hope Mickey realizes that ASAP!

237/7 could have easily been converted to 270 / 280 odd had we had a better middle order that could comfortably bat at 5 RPO during the middle overs - that would have been a more challenging total for India.

Haris please play next game!!
 
I cannot stress how important it is to play another accumulator in our already brittle middle order.

Hacks simply do not work in UAE conditions and Asif is adding little to no value currently in the team - hope Mickey realizes that ASAP!

237/7 could have easily been converted to 270 / 280 odd had we had a better middle order that could comfortably bat at 5 RPO during the middle overs - that would have been a more challenging total for India.

Haris please play next game!!


Asif has scored many fifties on this “UAE Condiions”. What has Harris done?
 
Both teams have struggled in this tournament. This will be an interesting game.
 
I would rest Shadab as well, I have seen him bowling in two India matches and to me he looks like a googly bowler, a leg spinner who brings ball in to batsman, with today's technology he need his leg spin with more rotations & turn, then his googly will be successful. He is good for his age but can't rely on same thing against good opponents.

As evident by yesterday's match in first match Rohit got out to a googly but today they are playing him on backfoot as with his pace it's hard to drive him and he doesn't turn the ball.
 
Hussain Talat was the flavor of the season couple of months back. Whatever happened to him?
 
We need to be innovative in order to excel ourselves.
My Squad::::

1. Sarfraz Ahmed
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babor Azam
4. Fahim Ashraf
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Asif Ali
7. Shadab Khan
8. Hasan Ali
9. Mohamad Amir
10. Junaid Khan
11. Shaheen Afridi
 
The batting form BD are currently in at the moment, it's a one way ticket for Pakistan to meet IND at the finals.

To be fair, they found it a lot easier to beat Afghanistan than Pakistan did.
And the induction of of Imrul Kayes has definitely strengthened their batting.

I wouldn't take BD lightly at all. They fancy their chances against Pakistan and are going to come out fighting.
 
I don't think Bangladesh can win though I want them to win so sarfraz the useless player can be kicked out from the team but I don't see that happening since they are not going to lose against Bangladesh.
 
I would have felt more confident if Tamim was there. But his absence means our top order is extremely fragile and pretty sure we will be 2 wickets down in the first 10 overs.

But I am excited to play against Pak after a long time. Its the only Asian side we don't play as often.

Yeah should be a good match. Excited for it, think it'll be a close match. I think outside of Asia Pakistan would be favourites but in Asia Bangladesh have probably been better in ODIs. Hopefully though think we'll clinch it against Bangladesh here.

Whoever goes through to the finals though hope they make a game of it against India. Been a huge gulf between the rest and India sadly atm, they've cakewalked it so far.
 
Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Sarfaraz
Malik
Asif
Faheem
Shadab
Nawaz
Hasan
Shaheen
That'd be my lineup too.

I'm glad Bangladesh pulled through as I wanted the stakes to be high for this match against Pakistan.

The resilience of this Pakistani team is going to be tested.
 
60-40 to Pakistan

Not having Tamim is a big loss. While we have 3 senior middle order batsmen no one is near his caliber as an opener.

Our hopes of beating Pakistan rests on the top order
 
60-40 to Pakistan

Not having Tamim is a big loss. While we have 3 senior middle order batsmen no one is near his caliber as an opener.

Our hopes of beating Pakistan rests on the top order

70-30, your bowling is trash. Which would help our useless batting muster some kind of score.
 
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