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Bangladesh vs South Africa | 1st test | Mirpur | 22/2/2008 - 26/2/2008

Am just waiting for aftab to throw his wicket away as per usual!
 
Much better effort so far from the BD batsmen.

250 could be a tricky total to chase on this track which is getting lower and slower.

Come on BD.
 
I wonder who the minnow here is and who is the internationally recognised No.2 team in the world.

Even if South Africa do manage a victory out of this, all those people who harp on about removing test status from Bangladesh, need to see that they are an evolving team.
 
In what was the talking point of the second day's play, AB de Villiers was adjudged out despite the ball pitching twice before reaching him.

After miscuing an attempted pull back to an equally surprised Mohammad Ashraful, de Villiers stood his ground, convinced that he wasn't out. Many in the visiting dressing room shared his confidence. But after taking his own sweet time over the decision, Steve Bucknor sent de Villiers towards the pavilion.

Bucknor has been in the news for the wrong reasons for a while now, but this time he was clearly in the right. Law 24, section 6 states that the umpire shall call a no-ball only if it bounce more than twice before reaching the popping crease. The shocker that Ashraful tossed up bounced only twice, making it a perfectly legal, though extremely bizarre, dismissal.

Graeme Smith, sitting with a few of his team-mates behind the boundary line, didn't hide his displeasure at the decision. de Villiers, who was batting on 46, began his walk back to the pavilion after having a word with the umpires.

http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/339437.html
 
Still fancy SA to win this test though. I cant see them collapsing twice in one match......but you never know.

I wonder if SA went into this game thinking it would just be a walk in the park for them.
 
Stunned to see this scorecard!

Brilliant stuff from Bangladesh and Shahadat Hossain. If they can post anywhere between 275-300 they have this match in the bag. 250 will make things interesting.
 
Man, amazing to see this scorecard. Surprising that not more people have posted on it. This will be an epic win for Bangladesh if they can pull it off.
 
I saw Bucknor on TV. He seemed clueless in the mayhem of out/not-out. He nodded and no one knew whether he was saying out or not out - ABD thought out and BD players thought not-out. :D

Eventually, Aleem Dar clarified to ABD that it was out :D
 
Excellent stuff from Bangladesh finally they are showing some fight in test cricket.
 
This is the best chance for BD to register their first win over a major Test playing nation. Everything is in their favor. If they can muster another 150 runs they can win. Once Ponting other time Inzamam halted their attempt to win a Test. Now i expect Kallis to rise to the occasion.
 
Bangladesh are well on top....unless they collapse they could...even should...win this game . The pitch is only going to get worse . Oh well good for them .....I can't read too much into it as a saffer supporter .A case of us having a bad day and them having a great one I suppose .
 
saffer said:
Bangladesh are well on top....unless they collapse they could...even should...win this game . The pitch is only going to get worse . Oh well good for them .....I can't read too much into it as a saffer supporter .A case of us having a bad day and them having a great one I suppose .

Bangers came very close to beating Australia in the first Test over there on tour - we were very lucky to get out of it. On their day (or days) the Bangas are a good side.

Saffies not starting series very well lately hey Saffer?
 
Bangers came very close to beating Australia in the first Test over there on tour - we were very lucky to get out of it. On their day (or days) the Bangas are a good side.

Saffies not starting series very well lately hey Saffer?

You said it.....although we've won the last 6 or 7 series in a row we've dropped the first game more often than not . It's very strange in that we've been dominant through almost every session against the opposition ...must be a psychological thing . Against India , England and Australia later this year we can't afford to keep doing this nonsense .


Dayle steyn has 98 wickets in 19 tests at the moment @ 22.31 ....the boys going to be a great if he stays injury free .
 
saffer said:
You said it.....although we've won the last 6 or 7 series in a row we've dropped the first game more often than not . It's very strange in that we've been dominant through almost every session against the opposition ...must be a psychological thing . Against India , England and Australia later this year we can't afford to keep doing this nonsense .


Dayle steyn has 98 wickets in 19 tests at the moment @ 22.31 ....the boys going to be a great if he stays injury free .

He is closing on the Waqar record yeah?
 
Bangladesh are throwing it away here....7 down . Still going to be a tough ask for south africa to knock off the runs no matter how many.....with the pressure of a potential loss of bangladesh and the south african media murdering them .

Boucher takes back his world record as a side note .
 
He is closing on the Waqar record yeah?

What is the actual record ? I think he might be close to he fastest to 100 wickets but i'm not quite sure .
 
saffer said:
What is the actual record ? I think he might be close to he fastest to 100 wickets but i'm not quite sure .

Waqar did it in 20 Tests so 2 more for Steyn in this Test would beat that.

Of modern players Botham and Andy Roberts got 100 wickets in their first 19 Tests.
 
saffer said:
What is the actual record ? I think he might be close to he fastest to 100 wickets but i'm not quite sure .

long way off.

the fastest is 16 tests - the 1st 5 on that list were all pre-war. bowlers routinely averaged 6 wickets per test on an average in those lowscoring times.

since the war, alf valentine, the caribbean leftarmer did it in 17.

botham, andy roberts both did it in 19 - waqar missed it by a whisker, getting there in his 20th test.

i remember coz i followed that test LIVE- and what a cracker it was! Hamilton, 1992-93.
Kiwis chasing 127 for victory on day 3, waqar blew through them.

picked up 5 for 22, nine in the match. ended with 102 at the end of his 20th. great, great game.
 
Waqar did it in 20 Tests so 2 more for Steyn in this Test would beat that.

Of modern players Botham and Andy Roberts got 100 wickets in their first 19 Tests.

Well he's not likely to get 2 more this game . Thanks for the info .
 
long way off.

the fastest is 16 tests - the 1st 5 on that list were all pre-war. bowlers routinely averaged 6 wickets per test on an average in those lowscoring times.

since the war, alf valentine, the caribbean leftarmer did it in 17.

botham, andy roberts both did it in 19 - waqar missed it by a whisker, getting there in his 20th test.

i remember coz i followed that test LIVE- and what a cracker it was! Hamilton, 1992-93.
Kiwis chasing 127 for victory on day 3, waqar blew through them.

picked up 5 for 22, nine in the match. ended with 102 at the end of his 20th. great, great game.

Well that's pretty thorough....thanks .
 
damn- why has steyn been taken off??

he could easily wipe out another 2 and get to the landmark! :pissed:
 
Perth93 said:
damn- why has steyn been taken off??

he could easily wipe out another 2 and get to the landmark! :pissed:

Because South Africa have the great Graeme Smith as captain - probably took Steyn off to show "discipline" :))
 
I sent you a link in private message perth93 ...but sometimes it doesn't work for me...let me know if you got it .

Because South Africa have the great Graeme Smith as captain - probably took Steyn off to show "discipline"


Steyn had been bowling all morning in fairness .
 
Right...8 down . Bring steyn back on to clean it up with a few quick swinging yourkers and then the very scary task of chasing over 200 on this wicket .
 
Well done Kallis on that haul. 5 wickets for 20 runs in that spell. Shows why you are the best all-rounder ever.
 
JustAnotherFan said:
Well done Kallis on that haul. 5 wickets for 20 runs in that spell. Shows why you are the best all-rounder ever.
:)))
 
saffer said:
I sent you a link in private message perth93 ...but sometimes it doesn't work for me...let me know if you got it .




Steyn had been bowling all morning in fairness .

1) nope, no messages yet. couldya resend it plz?

2) i know, but I saw this happening a LOT with steyn in the windies series - he'd take 3 or 4 and then he wouldn't be brought back for a 5fer. batsmen make joke captains. :po:
 
JustAnotherFan said:
Well done Kallis on that haul. 5 wickets for 20 runs in that spell. Shows why you are the best all-rounder ever.

JAF you are absolutely dreaming :)) :))
 
Good bowling from Kallizzz :28: he may have saved the Test for the Saffas.
 
SA aren't going to make the same mistake twice - they should chase this down easily.
 
Yeah ...it's true . Kallis statistically is the best allrounder ever .

S.A at 49 for 0 look set to save themselves from a humiliating defeat ....no fat lady singing yet though .
 
JustAnotherFan said:
Seeing that Aussies know everything ... prove to me statistically which batsmen all-rounder is better ... :13:

So has gone from best all rounder ever to best batsman all rounder now? :))

Which one is it?
 
JustAnotherFan said:
Yawn, nothing is more worse than an idiot who puts a few smilies at the end of every line.

Thanks for that. Excuse me for differing in opinion with you.
 
JustAnotherFan said:
Yawn, nothing is more worse than an idiot who puts a few smilies at the end of every line.

saffer, get yourself an icepack.

u guys havnt lost this one yet, you know.

cmon bangers cmon!
 
saffer, get yourself an icepack.

u guys havnt lost this one yet, you know.

cmon bangers cmon!

Hey...that's not me !!

But I do agree that Kallis is the best alrounder currently playing and if you look at his statistics objectively the best that has ever played . If you disagree you're challenged to bring up the career stats of any other play and prove your point . I don't think such a player exists .

Need 24 runs with 6 wickets S.a will probably escape this without too much egg on the face . Still Bangladesh can hold their heads high .
 
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saffer said:
Hey...that's not me !!

But I do agree that Kallis is the best alrounder currently playing and if you look at his statistics objectively the best that has ever played . If you disagree you're challenged to bring up the career stats of any other play and prove your point . I don't think such a player exists .

Need 24 runs with 6 wickets S.a will probably escape this without too much egg on the face . Still Bangladesh can hold their heads high .

a tousand apologies.

kallis is easily the most complete allrounder after sobers and botham.

the only area he suffers is in spirit - never really imposed his will on the opposition. although this season seems to have revived his desire.
 
kallis is easily the most complete allrounder after sobers and botham.

That's opinion and opinions are subjective . He has a better record than both objectively speaking . I think he deserves just a little bit of credit for this amazing feat .


the only area he suffers is in spirit - never really imposed his will on the opposition. although this season seems to have revived his desire.


Yeah....with away series against India , England and then Australia this is a major challenge for South Africa . (Not England really...there only good player is South African anyway ...and even he's not that great anymore) .
 
Perth93 said:
a tousand apologies.

kallis is easily the most complete allrounder after sobers and botham.

the only area he suffers is in spirit - never really imposed his will on the opposition. although this season seems to have revived his desire.


Botham, a complete All Rounder? :)))

What was his record after his earlier years when he was able to beat the weak teams from Pak/India etc...when he came across WI, he came out a complete crapper?

Imran, is what a complete All Rounder looks like!

Batting/Bowling/Fielding (nothing spectacular but still not too shabby)/Captaincy (so good that many consider him as one of Best Captains ever including Ian Chappal, Beneud etc.)
 
Monsee said:
Botham, a complete All Rounder? :)))

What was his record after his earlier years when he was able to beat the weak teams from Pak/India etc...when he came across WI, he came out a complete crapper?

Imran, is what a complete All Rounder looks like!

Batting/Bowling/Fielding (nothing spectacular but still not too shabby)/Captaincy (so good that many consider him as one of Best Captains ever including Ian Chappal, Beneud etc.)


monsee, I am a huge fan of imran myself - but the fact about imran is that his career was split into two. as a bowler, he was fabulous between 81 and 88. but his best batting came after that time, in the last 4 years of his career.

botham, on the other hand, managed to combine his batting and bowling peaks at the same time, 1976-1982. and that's what i mean by a 'complete' allrounder.

can't include captaincy into the equation for defining an allrounder, for even sobers was a pretty laclustre captain. that doesnt take anything from his skills.
 
Yeah Imran Kahn deserves to be on the list.....as for Kapil Dev ....I'm not so sure .

Why doesn't someone bring up the stats of all the players mentioned and any others they find worthy.....I'm too busy right now to allocate that much time to it .
 
Good fight by Bangladesh in this match. They have made the South Africans struggle.....just didn't have enough at the end. Needed another 100 runs from somewhere.
 
saffer said:
That's opinion and opinions are subjective . He has a better record than both objectively speaking . I think he deserves just a little bit of credit for this amazing feat .

I rate Kallis an all time great batsman, but I just don't rate his bowling very highly (5 for 20 yesterday and all I know).

Funny that with most modern all rounders we seem to expect more from their bowling than batting...
 
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